Longest Digital Whoop Flight Time // Moblite7 HDZero // Can it handle my crashing?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ค. 2024
- We have my preferred whoop size in HDZero digital FPV.
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Who is ready for a 2s 40mm propped HD Whoop? I am 😁
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Sure am! building one today with the NBD 40mm frame and a Darwin 2-3S board. Since the frame is designed for 2 boards (1 top, 1 bottom) it’s coming together very clean, albeit with ~ 2g weight penalty for the frame/carbon brace
2s, heck yes!!
Thank you
Oh sweet!!! Awesome review as always Nick!
Fantastic flying and review, Nick!!! 😃
I do need to try to build one of those some day!
Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Thanks Nick! I love HDZero in Whoops!
Love your reviews!!! Thanks for all you do!!!
That is some pretty impressive flying for a whoop indoors, the HDZero DVR footage looks great too! 41g isn't too bad for a digital whoop either! No stickers!! Honestly a pretty speedy little quad, very nice flying too! Thanks for the review, love listening to your commentary during the flights!
super impressed by the hdzero dvr, looks amazing honestly. my jaw was on the floor. no one else has presented it in such a good way before this video!
@@ryswe Agreed, it does look super amazing in this video!
Always love ya reviews Nick. Probably one of the best reviewers from the states. I reckon anyway.
Your backyard has come along well and looks fantastic, needs a slippery slide into ya pool though, (no swing set anymore), and a passionfruit vine over your pergola.
Keep up the great work mate.. Cheers.
Love me Thai food..... Hotter the better..
love the race gate in the middle of the room...
Very nice review, Nick!!! Thanks, Nice indoor race Track🤙
Thank you. Good to know you enjoyed it
Love the option im still on analog and sDly till i can get a new transmitter im grounded. Thanks for sharing Nick
Amazing indoors flying, gives me hope I'll get there one day. I find I'm quicker inside with a 65mm over the 75mm whoops I have. But about a month ago I wasn't flying close to where I am now. I'm still not sure I'm sold on HD or which one, but HDZero is looking decent. See what it's like when the goggles release. I have a lot invested in analog in a short time, I'll destroy these first and see where all the HD Stuff is next season. Thanks for the vids and review. Always a pleasure! Cheers to you and yours.
Just saying thanks agian for that awesome review. I love all your videos. They are always educational. Keep ripping my brother!!!!!!
Great content as usual.
Hi Nick Great video and review of the moblite7, I just love flying micros, I have more fun flying micros than a 5in, you can fly anywhere and never have a problem with anyone. I just love the new cube gate, I just can't wait to get one. Thanks again for the video and information.
Great video. I got a half dozen flights in last night on mine and I'll have some packs ready to go tonight. It's a fun one. Thanks for the shout-out and link to the channel.
yes sir. ABC, always be charging. FPV life :)
Looking forward to your review too
Great video!
Been looking for a whoop to get me over the line with HDZero, the 0802 65mm version seemed a bit underwhelming compared to the lighter analog whoops. This could be the one with the 1002 motors! Now just need the HDZero googles to be released! Current conversion rates are killing us here in Aus though.
Great video as always. 🙏🏻
IMO HD tinywhoops are heading in the right direction but are not there yet. Still heavy enough to prefer analog in that segment.
Interested in what you think.
Cheers!
I learn something new every video, this time was unique-long nose USB 🤯
awesome dude
HDZ image looking better and better all the time! Try sliding an X-Acto blade into the length of the slot on those rolled-pins and rocking it back and forth. This expands the diameter and restores a good electrical connection. I now prefer rolled pins because they’re easy to fix in this manner, rather than having to replace the whole smash.
The flight footage was really fun to watch
great. flying whoops is loads of fun
You're ripping that mob7! Speed run haha
Hi Nick, could you make a comparison video between the video range of the hdzero and walksnail 1s as you did in this video? flying around your house or your neighbor's house.
I put gnb 27 on all my 1s micros, I also haven't tried these newer motors {1000 series} . Every time i see you fly it's amazing and fast. I might have to order some hot sauce , my motto is if it ain't spicy i'm not eatin.
Hey Nick, can you post a link for the longer whoop screws? Please. And Thank You.
Thanks nick
Loving that Led cube. Is that bought or self made? And great flying by the way...👌🏾
Barbecue pit is awesome
I have a mobula7 with rcinpower 22000kv with stock tune do you think this HD zero version is flying as good or not as good as that one?
Nice visuals
At each corner of the battery section there is a small circle of supports that can be used to make a loop from zipties, this can replace the stock battery holster and will not break.
Interesting I need to investigate that. Thank you for that information.
Great video Nick.
Agree smart audio on hdzero seems pointless.
But Great to have the option.
I've got the 65mm version which I very quickly moved to a 75mm frame and 450 mah batteries which doubled my fight time.
Also I would add that its definitely worth buying some linear patch antennas with this kwad.
Surprised me how much of a difference it made.... perhaps you could go around the neighbours 😃😃. (Menace rc)
Hdzero in micros is excellent.
Took delivery of the Eachine E-017 today. Removed the canopy and added a vtx and camera (ccd aio)
Just need some batteries for the TX. For £25 + cost of aio camera Great buy!! I'm actually excited about it..... 🤣😂 more so I think than when I bought my hdzero 65mm whoop.
I do have a few patch antenna, really haven't used them much as I try to keep it consistent across videos. Try to avoid that potential confusion, especially with newer folks.
@@NickBurnsFPV makes sense. If you do try a patch it needs to be a linear to get best results.
Would be nice to have one of those hdzero ultra light vtx antennas on the new walksnail 1s board
My mob6 motor wires were too short for the 75mm frame, and my friend had the same problem. Swapping them may not work unless you want to solder new motors.
There is a bit of the battery tray that needs to be trimmed to make it work as I did. I think I highlight that later in this video.
It has a BMI gyro that can only run at a max of 3.2khz, that's why the PID loop time is odd.
Nice review nick! Another nice whoop from HM. What do you think about 1002 motors in these? How they compare to the RCinpower 1002 ones?
Its really hard to compare at this time. I have only flown 1 set of happmodel 1002. And having not flown the rcinpower 1002 on a whoop at this weight. Overall at this time I see these motors as good for more weighty 75mm whoops, or on 2inch biblades on lighter non whoop setups.
Hey Nick, great review looks like a winner for sure! What battery do you recommend for this one?
I am liking those xilo batteries. GNB are also good but mine are well used and don't have the flight time they used to :)
nicce looks fun
@NickBurnsFPV I just picked up the DJI V2 goggles and a ELRS Boxer. What woop would you recommend that does ELRS and can get me good video to the V2 goggles. Do i need a specific adapter for the goggles? Analog? something else? would really appreciate if you could give me a few options for ELRS and v2 DJI Goggles
For a whoop that flies very well we will need to either go analog or get a dji compatible 2s whoop. I don't recall a bnf with dji other than those like the recent pavo pick and mobula8 with o3, but those are both going to be pretty flat flyers. With an analog adapter to your goggles and an analog receiver module for the adapter. Most whoops now days come with an option to buy with an elrs receiver. For inside flight a 65mm whoop is going to be most compatible. With that we can look at the mobula6 or the mobeetle6, or the betafpv metor65 pro. the 65prop will run 35mm props making it the most outdoor compatible of that group while still being small enough for most indoor spaces.
What do you think about the Betafpv meteor75 walksnail hd? I’m new to the whoops and bought got a cetus pro kit second hand and got quite a few bt2.0 batteries with it. The range on the cetus pro is slim to none 😂, and looking to upgrade to something that has longer range and flight time.
I have recently received the meteor75 walksnail. I am only a few flights in. It weighs more and is less capable of aggressive flight.
Hi Nick. I've been out of FPV for over a year, just got busy with life. My dream has always been to have an HD fpv feed on a tinywhoop and it seems like we're there. Do you find that the flight characteristics are still reasonable and fun with the extra weight of HDZero? Perhaps this build with some triblades swapped in?
Yes, I think with HDzero good time whoop fun is very much within reach with this and likely our own builds in the same weight. But I would prefer it to be a touch lighter with tri blade props. Walksnail whoops are close as well. I think we need to see them drop some grams.
I have a question, its not about the HDZERO but I have a similar build that I put a runcam split 3 lite into and I run those Tattu 500 LIPO batteries, I noticed because they are lipo, they discharge a little lower than my LIHV batteries, so the DVR board will sometimes grey out before my motors, causing me to have to emergency land. have you ever run into this with regular lipo batteries vs liHV batts?
Yes, If I recall correctly the split needs 5volts and the battery can't continue to supply 5v to the board which the split is wired to. Essentially we are supplying 5v beyond the ability of the battery and regulator.
Hey Nick Burns, I wonder if you prefer HDZero or Walksnail Avatar flying these whoops? Looking to buy some goggles and would like your opinion. HDzero has less latency and lightwe weight but worse camera quality.
My preference is kind two fold. If I am flying inside I tend to pickup an HDzero whoop, if I am flying anything larger than 2inch prop outside I tend to pick up a walksnail quad. I know not definitive, but this is my preference in behavior
Hint: finding screws on carpet can be made easier with a magnet! I’ve had to do that before to find some screws
Hey Nick, just got my Moblite7 and I swear you talked about setting the throttle curve on this thing as it seems really lumpy around 45-50%, what did you adjust to fix that?
I did talk about the difficulty doing close proximity but I didn't set a throttle curve. We could do that to help smooth it out. or use some throttle expo to make it slower/softer to respond.
Now,about that pid loop thing!I have two MOBULA 7 ELRS 75mm quads bort from different vendors and different times both have same bf version and ELRS version yet the pid loop on one is 8k 4k and the other is 3k 1.3k(something like that)and you can't change it on the settings as it's the only option.,which one fly's better?i feel the one with the lowest pid loop fly's butter smooth! weird, but that's how it is,the other fly's great as well but I think the butter smooth one has that edge over the other.🤔
I forgot with the new BMI gyro now being used some does require a different pid loop as we see in this video.
Filtered appropriately the BMI270 is a very nice gyro but can't go over 3.2kHz loop, the MPU6000 was really quite awful though everyone seems to have a soft spot for it 🤷♀
U r the whoop king 🤘🏽. Great vid nick 👍🏽. Would u mind if I show off ur skills on my live stream?
Sure, feel free to share/reuse as you would like.
Great review Nick!
I have a side story that's sort of related. I got the Mobula 6 HDZero and loved it. I followed up by getting the Mobulat 7 HDZero 2S. Unfortunately after some very very minor crash, the VTX on the M7 stopped working. This happened twice now. I am wary of spending more money to buy a 3rd HD Zero vtx but it's a shame to leave a non flyable quad. BTW I crashed my M5 a ton and it still works fine. Don't know why the M7 is so fragile. Anyone have experienced this or have any suggestions?
Just got my Moblite7 HDZero a week ago and having the exact same behavior! Sometimes it doesn’t even need a crash, the vtx would just drop at around 3.4v (shown on osd) 😢, it is also my first ever quad…tried to resolder the cables, nothing improved or even maybe got worse. I’m now suspecting the gnb27 to PH2.0 connector they have up there is no good, getting some bt2.0 connectors and batteries to try
@@calfolkionized I changed the connector to xt30 to avoid any issues because 2S lipos has xt30 on them anyway. I am curious to know how your investigation goes.
Happy to report that by changing the connectors on all my 1s batteries and the quad to bt2.0 solved all the issue! Turned out it’s a really bad factory PH2.0 connector that would give really bad resistance spikes that freaks out the whoop lite vtx. Now it flies like a dream 😇
@calfolkionized i juat bought ome of these today. Im a total newb trying to decide on a battery route next. were you going from the quad straight to a 1s with gnb27. I noticed they come with a ph2.0 adapter but isn't that mostly for charging?
@@quickdrawmcgraw4394 I feel like bt2.0 is the only way to go, no battery issue anymore for me once I switched over. gnb27 is quite bulky and hard to mount/dismount the batteries, and the ph2.0 (at least for me) just has WAY too much battery sag. You'd probably want to change the quad's battery connectors to bt2.0 as well. Good luck!
I just got a 5” HDZero drone. I thought audio can’t be transmitted over the VTX. Do you have some external mic?
I use a secondary camera to record flight audio and blend that into the video edit.
Hey Nick,
Im pretty new on your channel, and i couldnt find out why you dont fly 250g or higher quads. Would be cool to know (maybe its because of the laws or somethink).
Its mainly as flying that size requires more space. Many years ago I did fly a few 5inch quads, but I found it much more time consuming to plan to take the time to packup, drive to a spot (or even scout many spots), then fly, pack back up and drive home. With micros I get the fun and flights in minutes when ever I have 10 minutes or more. Its fairly rare I have more than an hour or 1.5 hours of free time to fly.
Hi Nick, what would you recommend for indoor flying: this moblite 7 1s HDZero or the Mobula7 2s HDZero?
Thanks!
1s for most will be best. If the indoor space is really large or the skill set it there 2s is more fun imho
@@NickBurnsFPV thanks !
I use 0802 20.000kv motors on my 75mm HDzero whoop. will 1002 20.000kv fly better & longer or..?
not in my findings. The 1002 motor seems to not have a great advantage in flight on a 40mm prop.
I just got the mobula 6 HD zero and converted it to a 7 frame for more flight time. looks like I gotta try a 85mm next.
Flying it inside?
@@NickBurnsFPV I live on a boat, this is my playground ripper
Very cool.
I am at that point in the season where i an trying to figure out if i want to just grab this bnf or build one..think i am going to build because i feel lime there is a better motor option
going 0802 on 40mm? or 070X on 31mm prop?
@@NickBurnsFPV im thinking on 75mm build im still going with 0802..i just dont think the weight increases of the 1002 is worth it..yet
I swear your resolution looks better in hdzero then anyone else’s on TH-cam! No break up in video like others either. How?! I want the same set up! Lol
Seriously though, how were the emax transporter 2 hd’s? Was the resolution good? The penetration enough to fly through my 3 story house? I literally fly whoops just like you do(20-40packs a day). Looking to upgrading to hdzero but debating on the cheap ones or the official hdzero guys when they drop as I’m sure they will poop on the transporters haha
Thanks for the content you do!😎
Its because of my iron rich blood :) I really can't explain it other than our house and my flying from location is just perfect.
@@NickBurnsFPV lol whoop racing from now on at the Burns household!! 🤣
Bi blade gets better flight time? (Trying to mod my BetaFPV walksnail 1s to get it to fly past 2 min
yes, less blades less drag. But they don't corner as well and they tend to emit more noise.
I just got a emaxTinywak iii, can i use the remote and gogles to fly this? Tootal noob here 🙋🏻♂️
No, that is analog, this is digital.
I struggle between this one and Mobula 7HDzero with 2-3 S because I just don’t like 1S
The mobula 7 HDZero is discontinued. Might be available to purchase still but my concern would be replacement parts.
Did you think about implementing a slow lane in your house for the flies and bees???
slow lane is up high :)
just pulled my Mob 7 out of storage and took it outside. Got really spoiled by ELRS. I can barely get further than 20 yards before it starts to failsafe. my 25mw VTX outperforms my FRsky control link.
oh the days of 25mw and pre ELRS. As much fun as we had with those limits, times are much better now
@@NickBurnsFPV I remember when you were just a pair of hands 😄
@@lievenvv 😂
I got the elrs mobula7 been more than 1km out with it. Get one of those and put rcinpower 1002 22000kv on it and you won't regret it!
@@airdevil21 I was looking at those motors as a replacement. 2s?
What’s the flight time difference between Mobula 6 and Moblite7? I mean HDzero versions
I can't say with any precision off the top of my head. In general 75mm will have 40% more flight time. So if we get 2:30 from 65mm, 75mm would give us 4+ minutes.
floss instead of ziptie to hold the antenna? :)
maybe, it could be cumbersome to get it tight enough to stay on the ufl connector.
Dang I wish I could be that good at flying
You will, it comes with time. Enjoy the flights we adapt as we experience.
Will this work with my Fatshark HDO 2's and rapid-fire receiver?
not without the hdzero vrx.
@@NickBurnsFPV I also have the New DJI Goggles 2, do you know if it will work with those? Or do I also need a hdzero receiver for that?
@@TOMBUFFOLINO unfortunately no, or I should say, not that I am aware of. The hdzero vrx requires hdmi in
Do u think these 1002s are overkill and this setup is better suited for 0802 maybe 25k?
I think 1002 are best suited for 2inch biblade without prop protection. for me and how I like to fly the 0802 work just fine in a 1s 75mm whoop configuration. We also gain weight with the 1002.
@@NickBurnsFPV just ordered the hdzero googles so I’m definitely in the market for a whoop for indoors . This seems to fly decent but like u said it’s a tad heavy. I’m sure more will be on the horizon
@@djs134 I think this particular quad would have been better if it had 0802 motors. The 1002 are less efficient and add weight.
se tento di andare a quella velocità in casa...distruggo tutto 😂
"If you want range, you gotta go elrs". Or rather, if you want anything, you gotta go elrs. The only reason anyone today should buy frsky is if one only had frsky radio and no money to upgrade.
Fun little whoop. I think I'll try tri-blades and bt2.0 connector
i think the gyro is bmi270, i guess.......
Is it just me or are these 1002 motors just looking to be very inefficient? Every video I've seen shows major battery sag, below 3.5v before 30 seconds. I feel like 0802s may give better performance/flight times
Yeah I'm not impressed. I was hoping they would do better for hdz builds
These motors are less efficient than 0802 on a 75mm whoop. But for carrying HDZero 1002 can do it for some flight time loss
1102s seem like they would provide that extra grunt, and still retain some efficiency.
@@Tokyo_Dom 1102s hey? What KV do you think?
@@KlownFPV afaik there are only really 2 choices available - 18000kv betafpv or 19000kv happymodel. I have the betafpv ones. But honestly I recently pulled apart that hd whoop and am flying a bone stock mob6hd again. Its pretty gutless, flight times of 2-2.5 mins, but nothing beats how compact and easy it is to just grab a quick clip. I've always got 300 stick type batteries charged and it flies fine on those
Do you think 7 minutes FT is possible ?
I suspect we can get very close, with a more easy cruising style of flight, a better battery connector like bt2.0 or gnb27 and a 550mah battery. But not if we are flying aggressively.
@@NickBurnsFPV I use DJI FPV drones to patrol avocado plantations, the best cheap drone for the job. Now I became obsessed with long FT micro drones and want to learn how to build them etc. A 15 minute drone like the one you test on your video is my fantasy. Thank you for responding my post. Love your videos. I wished I found other drone aficionados interested in insane FT´s micro FPV´s. No crazy about acrobatics at all, only orbits, hovers etc.
Performance seems decent but 3.52 volts on take off? This tech isn't light enough yet!
Its the ph2.0 connector.. they are junk
Yes, as @Lincoln51 stated. The ph2.0 connector is not good for high demand power systems. Note the outside flight was much earlier and the ph2.0 connector in better shape = less sag
@@NickBurnsFPV Of course GNB connectors are going to help!! But not enough to change my mind on the verdict.😃
@@NickBurnsFPV i am a huge fan of bt2.0 i just wish they where more available on batteries.. i have to swapp out connectors on every battery
Yes, the swapping is what keeps me from having many bt20 batteries. Its a tedious process that I don't give the time to.
Haven't seen u in awhile , you need to race bro, I'd love to see I at a 5" meet. I bet ud rock
What have you been up to? busy with life hobby took a back seat? I would like to try racing once at least. But alas I haven't found a race within 4 hours of me. I can't really rationalize giving up a weekend from the family to travel to a whoop race.
@@NickBurnsFPV close lol, I was in jail. I was finally freed Friday. 70 days felt like an eternity. These cops n judges in Georgia do alot of freestyling with the court system n law. Misdemeanor driving while suspended license due to an extended dui probation. Anyhow I have alot of ur vids to watch lol
that will certainly keep one from youtube :) Enjoy catching up. I suspect you have so many fpv videos to watch...no need for netflix for a bit :)
Flash 48hz ESC firmware and get 50-60% more flight time
Bmi270 gyro calls for that pidloop
Ah, that does make sense. I failed to recall the new gyro issue.
@@NickBurnsFPV i have been learning the hard way🤦🏻the bmi is not to bad but the icm4xxxx series is terrible!!!!! Stay way from them
gotcha, good info thank you
The little whoops are fast too fast for me right now
We don't have to fly them fast if we don't want to. The adjustable camera angle if brought down to level or close will naturally slow us down. I like to go fast, so I tend to move the camera angle up.
29grams. Isn't it a nonsense to call it a moblite?
The connector sag is Happy Model's fault because they chose that poor, out of date connector. There are great alternatives.
My phrasing wasn't on point. My thought was they don't make the connector. There are truly better alternatives. I suspect a difficult choice is to choose which is more popular.
How the hell can you get one of these giant hdzero in a whoop. Their gigantic. Analog is cheaper and smaller.