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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ก.ย. 2024
- Episode 27-
This week we get to demo the King Song 16X, thanks to Jason from Ewheel! I had the opportunity to try the other new entry to the popular 16" class of electric unicycle the Nikola a few weeks ago so what do I think of these two wheels and who do they compare?
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3 years later and Hsiang got it right on the money with this one
Even in 2022, the Kingsong 16x is not just a starter wheel. I have several wheels and I always go back to the 16x.. it has the quickest acceleration of any wheel I've owned and tried, including the Begode Hero, Sherman Max, V12 , V11, etc. Not to mention it may also be the tankiest wheel one can buy.
Check reviews of people who have bought this wheel - it's probably the best reviewed EUC of all time.. and for very good reason.
The issue with buying a $2k wheel to learn on is that not everyone makes it past the initial learning curve. While it's hard for us to get our head around it, EUCs are not for everyone.
While even a scratched up wheel has resale value, new riders may be reluctant to fork out two grand for something they may not use in the end.
I was more comfortable buying a $900 Glide 3 (V8) as my first wheel, knowing that I'd probably want to upgrade to a $2,000 wheel within a year, than to start at that higher price point.
Jon Stern totally agree with you on this.
I started on a ks 14 s and am ready to upgrade , probably to 16x, which hopefully will be my last wheel.
Question though , when you say “initial learning curve” and that “ euc are not for everyone “... do you mean that they buy the wheel and further down they realize that they aren’t able to learn to ride or they just feel scared for some reason... or maybe that it is not fun?
And maybe therefor don’t want to invest in a 2k wheel?
Also, I am afraid that after having invested 2k on a wheel, that the government here in Sweden after a year or so would change the law( no discussion yet but you never know) and then it would be like having wasted money for nothing...
EUC and e-bikes are getting more popular and soon they will fall into the category of discussion for how they should be used. (Sorry for my bad English)
I started wth the E+ moved up to z10
Aziz Izgin Yes, my point is that anyone starting out would need a high confidence that they will stick with the hobby before slapping down $2k.
When I bought my Glide 3 I got a Glode 2 Lite for $200 (Solowheeel deal at the time), so really that was my starter wheel (for a short while). I loaned it to a woman at work who is an avid skiier (not sure if she snowboards), and she couldn't get over the initial learning curve at all. She returned it to me saying it scared her. (This is the woman who was lucky not to kill herself in a snowmobile accident a couple of months ago!)
I looked at it like "I just dropped a ton of coin on this thing, I damned well better learn it so that I didn't waste my money".
neurokinetik64ES me too, I’m pretty good, I must ride every day
Convinced me to buy this as my first EUC. Great review, informative with a nice touch of humor thrown in. Crossing my fingers!
Wear protection, have patience with the learning process but once you get it, you’ll love it!!
127ajr did you get it? How are you getting on with it? I live near New York City, just north actually and have not seen one person riding an electric unicycle yet but I’m determined to get one and leaning towards this one if I can’t find a used one for cheap to learn on. Anybody in NYC area that wants to part with one for a beginner, reach out!
By far best EUC TH-cam'r. Always look forward to your videos!
Thank you!
I was gonna say that for all of us with Z experience, this is next wheel to have. Congrats Kingsong for expediting this change and thanks Hsiang for another great review
I haven't had the chance to get solid riding experience on the Nikola yet, but I thoroughly enjoyed my time with the 16x, and I really don't think anyone whom get this wheel would be disappointed.
Great review. Nice comparison with previous kingsong wheels and also the Nikola. The look of the 16X is growing on me.... looks so damn good! Can’t wait to get my hands on my 16X when it ships!
Thank you! very different personalities on these two wheels, I use my EUC for work so having a wheel that look inconspicuous is important. I was able to wheel it through my office and to a client meeting without any one commenting on it which is a plus!
Thanks hsiang. Best 16x review yet by far.. as always, really informative and entertaining. kinda made me want to go put down the deposit.. I wonder if I can hide a second new wheel from my wife.. lol
Oh my god, join the club! I am still trying to keep up the charade that wheels cost half as much as they do to my wife!
Wow, this stellar review means a lot. King Song take my cash, NOW!!!!!!!
I think this is the right direction for them. you can tell they spend a lot of time riding this wheel as the ergonomic is really good.
You just sold me. EWheels thanks you 🤘
Hardly a waste of time, thanks again for a well thought out piece on the 16x. if I had 2 grand I'd totally be looking forward to the official release. (actually, I probably still am regardless.)
It's too bad you can't see my face during half of the ride video since you'll see I that I can't help but grin the whole time while riding the 16X. Its just such a stable smooth and fun wheel to ride!
@@OWGAC Eddie Moy was saying in his review that he was exeperiencing ossilation at higher speeds, did you encounter that at all?
I have a v10 as well. I like the aesthetic of the 16x more than any other wheel but I need something I can push 35+.
Well.. this is the first wheel I'm getting... just waiting and waiting for my order. ugh... Great Review. Thank you
I think you'll love it, just take your time and be patient with the learning process. oh and make sure you get some bumper to protect those edges as the LED strip is a bit exposed.
I wasn't even aware of the Kingsong 16 x. Thank you for this video which has brought it to my attention
You are welcome, I have been enjoying it so far and I hope you’ll have the chance to try it also!
I just preorderd mine :)
You are responsible for making another EUC rider on the East Coast
You are going to love it! Just be patient and take it slow, the 16x is a beast of a wheel so wear a helmet and stay safe!
I also have become a 16X rider thanks to this and other very convincing videos.
I am new to EUC and 16X is my first. I love it. Yesterday I had a ride on someone’s KS14S and it felt super small and more like a toy. I am super glad to have gone big first up. Thanks for the great vids Hsiang! Keep up the fine work.
@@GlenEdwards That's awesome. That's funny you say that about trying a smaller one and it feeling like a toy. I tried my friends 14D and ya, totally weird. I recently just got the MSP as well and I have to say, all around, the 16x seems like a more well balanced wheel with all the right features done well.
Giffy Good to know. I’m sure I’m going to be happy with it for a while to come. I’ve been posting a few videos with my own experiences on it too if you check my profile.
I owned an airwheel x8 like 4 years ago, then upgraded to an Inmotion V5F. And just recently I preordered my KS16X, I’m so excited, but the ship from China is estimated to be 15 days later than it should’ve been. am so much looking forward to carving that monster in Istanbul streets. Peace ☮️
The wait for a new wheel is the worst part! But 16x is a great wheel and you’ll love it!
Hsiang yeah buddy, the wait’s so overwhelming. I think I’ll not get enough of these youtube videos until I actually press that start button :)
Controversy: a smaller but wider wheel doesn’t necessarily provide more stability than a larger thinner wheel at higher speeds. However, agility and tight turns are a different story. Discuss.
I bought a reconditioned e+ on eBay after about 300 miles it abruptly quit working and threw me on my face on the pavement, it is now basically a boat anchor. It will cost more to repair than buying a new one. I have a Z10 on the way and love riding I would just recommend you go with an in motion or a king song from a reputable dealer
Speaking of your helmets (as you mentioned in this video), you've got good design/fashion taste (including this one). Alas, they wouldn't work well in my tropical swamp (no ventilation).
I worry about about your ski slalom helmet with the metal chin bar (POC Artic SL Spin). Looked like a cool option to me, but when I investigated further I'm not sure it would offer much protection against a faceplant given its purpose is to push ski slalom poles away. I opted for a lightweight full-face enduro helmet instead as my head protection compromise.
Awesome Video, may have to get one to get around Auckland :)
Its the perfect wheel for a city, with enough range and speed to cover just about everywhere.
@Hsiang 😎🤙🏼 thanks a lot for the update bro, as always, awesome seeing you uploading once again.. I’m really glad to hear that I’ve made the right choice-decision on buying this SexyWheel 🤩🙌. Can’t wait to start my new hobby and getting around.. awesome video review
Thank you and enjoy your wheel, take your time and wear protection!!
Hsiang 😎👌🏼 Amén.. Thanks for all brotha..
I like your EUC "Stand" idea a lot! Gonna make one out of some pipes i have laying around!
you should defnitely do it! I made it just for the shoot and it took me no more than 15 minutes, but it worked really well.
thanks for great info...16x is my first wheel, and 4 months in, i can say that i love it more every day
Thank you and stay safe!!
Never a waste, always a pleasure
Thank you!
These electric unicycles/monocycles are so compact too ,crazy. I could just fit that in my backpack
That is the best part but they are heavy!! rolling it is much easier!
@@OWGAC True realized that right when I postetd t hat after some research haha
I'm just starting in the EUC world and your videos are very helpful!
So far Z10 is still the best-looking wheel there is, other (even this one) are still either too boxy or too shiny and just don't look good.
Looks, of course, are not everything, but it seems like Z10 has a lot of other benefits even if it's gonna be a bit harder to master.
I Love my Z10, but the wheel does have its issues, if you are seriously thinking about getting one, make sure that go go on the EUC forum and read about its issues so you know what you are getting into.
Love watching your old vids. LOL, my EUCs have changed a lot
How so? I am looking into getting into EUC and this time frame was the last time I looked into them.
@@1empyre1life some EUCs can go much faster, some have suspension, some have touch screens built in (so you don't need to use an app on your phone to customise the EUC). Explore a bit, and you'll find the evolution of the EUC over the last 5 years quite remarkable !
That outro was amazing! ok, the whole video was great, but that outro hurt my brain! You've got my subscription!
LOL thank you I am glad you enjoy it, I try to not overly abuse the 360 videos =D
Your best video I think.. I am airplane racing at reno next week, but when I get home I should have a 16x..
I really enjoyed riding that wheel, even though it doesn’t match the Nikola in terms of top speed, the ergonomics on the 16x felt superior.
Like what you said AND dote on the helmet! Don't go changing. Great review.
Tough to recommend a $2k wheel for a first time rider (for the same reason you initially pointed out-a new rider will beat it into the ground). I’ve been recommending the InMotion v8 if a new wheel is the only option. It can take a beating and people won’t outgrow it as fast as a 14D because of its higher speed and bigger wheel diameter.
Btw-if you havent noticed already, your riding posture is unbalanced, leaning the wheel hard into your right leg (pinch style), while keeping your left foot wide. Could end up with some bad wobbles while braking from high speeds. Probly not the case on your z10, but something to keep in mind when riding thinner wheels. 👍
I think the rational is that you either spend $1k for a wheel you'll eventually outgrow and let sit collecting dust (if you can't be bother with shipping/ selling) or you can pony up and get a wheel that you can just use basically for the long term. It wasn't how I got in to the sport but I have been hearing a lot of ppl going to 18XL as their first wheel with that very reason. 16X makes a lot more sense than the 18XL or the MSX I think.
Watched with special interest as either the KS 16X or Inmotion V10F are more than likely to be my next wheel when I upgrade from my humble, but superb V5F. Interesting that you liken it to a Z10 with manners. I’ve ridden a Z10 albeit briefly and was in no way put off by it, so this new King Song intrigues me. Style is an issue for me too and this (and the Z10) are the only wheels of the boxy type that I actually like. Your review has notched it up a grade, making my choice harder, but you’ve added some good info I didn’t know, like a decent pedal height. I like high footplates and other King Songs they seem rather low.
Matt Gytrash, I also have a V5F and want to upgrade. I am interested in why you don’t consider Tesla. You don’t like the pedal hight or another reason. I am trying to decide myself. Have tried V10F: too “lazy” , compared with Tesla, in acceleration and braking. Can’t try KS 16X here in France for the moment. Thanx.
I've not yet tried a Tesla, Dan. I know a lot of EUCers really like that wheel, but something nags about the poor quality of Gotway's engineering. To my eye they also lack good styling as well and all this tells me that they cut corners. These wheels cost a lot and I don't want to buy a wheel that is badly built and might fail on me at speed.
Thank you for your reply MAtt. I appreciate your reasoning. I wish I could find a well build wheel with a reasonable high speed (45 km/h - for safety) and autonomy (> 50 km) with fast acceleration and braking (like V5F or MCM5), with higher pedals (unlike MCM5) no heavier than 19 - 20 kg. I just want to arrive fast and sound at work, then at home, have some fun carving and keep my arm attached to my shoulder, if I were to carry the wheel up stairs.
Very interesting, I am look at some time to a replacement of my Z6, I will have this in consideration too.
I think this wheel should be at the top of your list, it rides like a more nimble but more powerful Z6.
Hsiang thanks for the reply 👍 did you already come to Portugal? Very nice places to ride, we have a growing group of riders, and well if you come here, we would think on something. Several of us really appreciate your videos 👍
Luv ur vids man .. no bs keepz it real. Can't wait till my 16X arrives we did a huge group buy with our Madrid EUC group. After seeing all the reviews this is the best wheel hitting the street for some time to come.. keep the vids coming. Who's next on the demo wheel Tishan? Want to see his vid and how he flows the 16X....thx
Thank you and Yea Tishawn is getting it next!
Ordered myself a KS16X this week, apparently i made a good choise 😀 hope to receive it soon
the 16X is a solid and very very fun wheel! I actually miss it a little!
oh man just bought the Nikola, probably would of got this one, but wasn't in stock! thanks for video!
Hi Sean, what a great video! It reaffirmed my recent purchase of the 16x. If I could shout that as loud as I could into the phone as I am writing this like you did on your video I would, LOL.
I enjoy riding it a lot, took a bit of getting use to but once acclimated it was great fun!
Fantastic video man. I love this wheel, I just hope it rides like it looks
I can't say enough good thing about it. it isn't design to cruise at 30mph but around the city you can easily maintain speed with car traffic without any issue, and you'll rarely hit that 31mph ceiling. seriously if I didn't have the Z10 I'll buy this wheel in a heartbeat.
@@OWGAC what do you mean it's not designed to cruise at 30mph. Can you please explain?
@@UStrideit depends on riding technique but for me; I would always leave reserve speed so I can react by speed up or slowing down, if you are already at max speed the only thing you can do is slow down. Also, the 16" wheel starts to feel sketchy at that speed, its hard to describe why, may be some micro wobbles but generally it doesn't feel sufficiently planted for me to feel confident staying at that speed.
@@OWGAC interesting. Thanks for your reply
Just have to say my nikola goes 31 smooth as butter. And without me even knowing I’m going that fast.. it has its problems as we all know. But all in all it’s a great wheel. Super comfortable and stable .
Love your videos
Thanks!
Oh snap this is awesome . I remember we spoke about it when we were charging at shake shack. I got the email it's 3 weeks delayed so maybe get it in August.
They are trying to work out the firmware issue with the high speed wobble, it is minor as far as I am concerned but certainly important for them to have it sorted before release.
Good video, liked and subscribed ! To bad, the wheels are expensive. I started with the 16S, rode some time with it and bought a 18L. Later the 18XL came out, but for me my 18L is really good, don't have the need for a 18XL. The difference between the 16S and the 18(X)L is maneuverability. This 16X might be a winner, but I can only ride one wheel at a time. Keep your video's coming, they're great.
I think the argument this wheel makes would be that it would be the one wheel with enough capability satisfy what you were looking for by switching between the 3. It is almost too good as I see very little advantage the 18XL have over this wheel.
Solid as always. As a Z10 Fanboy, I appreciate the comparison.
I was a bit concerned that my Z10 might get jealous.. LOL
@@OWGAC So I love the slow speed maneuverability of the Z10 - the round tire avoids that flop over feel of the other tires when you are really banking it. How's this 3" tire compare?
Similar question on the physicality, which I love, of maneuvering at mid and high speeds?
@@michaelpaolini You can lean the wheel all the way till you scrap the pedal and not get to the edge of the wheel. and comparing to the Z10 the cornering feel is lighter but more consistent, and there''s still a bit of weight to it.
I love the lights on My 100 volt Nokola. I think Gotway does the led side lighting well. Inmotion and Kingsong not so much. Why I am glad they just left the side lighting off the V11
I didn’t like the Nikola design much when it was first introduced but it has been growing a bit on me, especially since i heard its much more durable as compared to the MSP/X
@@OWGAC Very durable.. I just had a speed wobble crash at 50kph. The wheel is fine....handle is a bent but works. I was in full body armor...but man am I sore...no cuts or bruises though. I set tilt back for 47KPH so experiencing tilt back and speed wobbles at the same time is deadly. I have turned tilt back off. Keep up the good work. Your vids got me in to riding...I said if this dude can ride then so can and I was right.Much thanks as I love riding....trying to get my buddies in to it..pay it forward.
i have since yesterday too an 16x 🙈😎
greetings from germany (and a silent fan) 🙈🤟🏻
Nice!! be careful as I heard the regulation is against any sort of EUC use on public road there.
@@OWGAC Thanx 🙂
yep, what you have heard is correct, i ride ever wirh an extra eye on the track that i ride 🤙🏻😎
I've never ridden an electric unicycle, I snowboard. I love your videos: really informative, great production value, and you look cool. As soon as it becomes legal in the UK, and I can get some cash together, I want to get into this. No Idea how you don't have more subs.
That you! Check your local riding group as I have also heard that the regulation might not be strictly enforced in the UK depending on your locality
@@OWGAC thanks for the info. I'll do some digging.
@praetax look into speedyfeetUK! They sell wheels and ride them around U.K. and don’t seem to have any legal issues!
@@AndrewKennedy cheers mate, I'll check it out.
Bro loves your work and the video the best about the 16x.. I love the wheel I think it will be my companion for my z10.. Tomorrow im releasing my review of the z10 if you would like to see.. Basically in 10h30 will be out
Thank you! love your channel also, waay more professional than my! I'll definitely check out your review as I'll watch anything with Z10 in it! =)
@@OWGAC bro your videos are amazing my friend. They are really good. You make me stay until the end of the videos so they are really well made. Maybe one day we can make a video together :)
Nice to see you in Forest Hills😎👍
You are all over. Ever come out to Long Island and ride?
Will love to one of these days, are you on the Telegram NYC chat?
what a great comprehensive review! thank you :)
Glad it was helpful!
Why would anyone buy a second wheel in the next 2~3 years if they already have a 16X? The 16X has one of the top performance out of all wheels on the market today. Sure the top speed is slightly slower but it still matches that of the Z10. If I didn't already have a KS 18XL I would definitely go with the 16X just for the lighter more compact design. It has a lower price tag anyway.
In some way from KS's perspective they position the 16x strangely, like you said, the advantage the 18xl has over the 16x is so small that most people will gravitate towards the 16x I think. But who knows as I have also heard that many riders prefer the feel of skinnier tire
Thank you. Great analysis. Leaning towards this wheel as my next.
Glad you enjoyed it. I think the 16x is a solid choice as long as you are not looking for speed greater than 31mph
09:13 - My home to the right 😆👍🏽 I saw that the trail was closed this morning. I’d love to go out and practice turns.
Keep an eye out for the park ranger since I heard they have started giving out tickets on the west side bike trails to PEVs
@@OWGAC I heard that a while back but thought they chilled. Good to know. Thanks!
Another great one 👍
thank you!
Really enjoyed that.
We’ve just recently purchased a 16x and are just trying to get to grips with the learning process.
Hopefully that won’t take too long, especially as we have a Sherman on order too 😮🤪
Cheers 🍻
Richard
LOL wow you went all in! But remember, be patient and take your time to adapt. there will come a time two or three month in when you feel confident in your ability and start to push the wheel and THAT is when most ppl take hard falls, so be careful and gear up!!
@@OWGAC Hi Yes we went a bit midlife crazy 😂
Thanks for the words of advise, I ha r heard about the initial confidence once the early learning stages are completed can catch you out. I’ll try and keep that in mind as I progress. We’re already quite well kitted up with both open and full face helmets, wrist guard gloves and knee pads (always safety first)
Thanks again
Richard
Been trying to figure out what to replace my V10 with. This is exactly the review I needed to see. Thanks for your excellent work. How can we get in contact?
Bret, I checked out your channel and you make videos that I would had previously never believe can possibly build an audience on youtube. I thoroughly enjoy them. I'll send you an email and I'll be happy to answer any questions you have about the 16x.
running into youtubers on other channels is wild lmao
Bret Weinstein you are a huge IDW hero, you and your brother. Would you do the EUC community a favor and find a way to mention your V10 next time you’re on Rogan or Ruben? Thx!!
sweet video, ordered mine the other day...
Oh you’ll love it!! =D
Hsiang, another super cool review. Thank you
Glad you enjoy it! Thanks,
I just bought my first EUC - the KingSong 14D a month ago. I already feel it's too underpowered but it's a great wheel for my last mile train commute. It's a bit hard for someone to plonk down $2k for their first wheel without knowing whether they would even like it. p.s. how did you get rid of all the people in NYC ? Sidewalks are never that empty.
I was in the same spot as you thats why I started with the i5! but EUC is addicting and I couldn't help but to talk myself into faster and more powerful wheels..
I love the look of this wheel 👌 getting my gotway msuper x on Tuesday😊🎉 YAY
It really grew on me, very understated but nice. I hope they use a similar design direction for the 18" also
My first wheel is the msx. Spent an hour learning before my first 17km ride. Would have bougt this one instead if it was available
I am noticing that some people are going straight to the big wheel with their first purchase, no reason why you can't learn and grow into a wheel. and if you beat up your wheel, you can always buy a new shell and it'll be good as new. The 16X works really well in that scenario.
@@OWGAC it's not so hard to learn and it doesn't need to be crashing involved. I learned on a gravel field with a taped down wheel. 150k now with zero crashes. It will happen, but not because I'm learning. It will happen because I get reckless
Thanks for taking the time to post your thoughts. Quick question, did you experience any speed wobbles with this wheel at higher cruising speeds?
Speed wobble is IMHO largely due to road surface condition, since I am pretty use to dealing with it on the Z10; main reason why I ride with my strange stance. To me the any wobbles were either slight or not noticeable. for the most part (speed less than 26-28mph) this is a very well mannered and predictable wheel.
So excited for this wheel! Thanks for the review
I am seriously surprised at how much I liked the 16X. I think you will too!
Always enjoy yiur content keep it up....and get that Monster already 😆
LOL, all these peer pressures!
I own a Z10 too, love it ,want more range, did you do any range tests?
Already pre-ordered 16x, can't wait-
Thx
Unfortunately the battery gauge on the beta firmware isn't working so I have no way of knowing the battery level. But I did a 32 miles ride on it, pushing it the whole time and crossing a tall bridge twice and the wheel did not throttle at all. The z10 would have started throttling about 3/4 the way into this ride
@Hsiang, Did you try the Darkness Bot app with it?
I started today and it's the first wheel I bought :)
congrats! 16X still a solid option now!
1 month later... I am loving that wheel !!! I don't regret this choice as all!
I Like it, only thing is the fron headlight, they could have done something more modern and appealing . Otherwise looks cool !
You can tell they are still working out of a common part bins and am only customizing the shell and some of the parts. Its a start I guess!
Very inspiring Im a newbie Ill buy this one probably
I think the 16x is a good starting wheel, maneuverable, great range, and most importantly, lots of fun once you get the hang of it!
@@OWGAC thx mate, local ewheel shop in Oslo have GW Nicola, MSX84/100 and KS 18xl - but not this one.. So maybe I need to wait for a bit? Not easy. Im highly motivated ... anywayz thx for your many films I enjoy them very much. Informative and fun.
Really good review of the 16X.
thank you!!
Thank you for the video and useful insights!
Well, that was excellent.
Hey Hsiang. Awesome videos man. I'm looking to get into the EUCs. Going with the less popular 'forget the beginner wheels and just for for the one you want'.
I REALLY like the aesthetics of the Z10 and pretty much all about it (except the issues with the early units).
So given your slight past bias to Z10. Today: given the option of buying a 2019 manufactured Z10 with a dealer that has access to parts and is giving a 1yr warranty...would you choose the Z10 or the KS 16x?
slight past bias would be an understatment since I call my vlog the "Z10 vlog"! If you are at all worrying about reliability and support I'd go with the 16x. Ninebot does not have a good track record, and I am not sure how responsive they will be even if the wheel is under warranty. But for me, design is important so I am willing to roll the dice and go for it. But keep in mind that I bought from a dealer with a proven record of responsive support (ewheel) not sure if ninebot direct would be as good..
If you weren't starting to ride unicycles, what wheel would you buy? What wheel do you recommend for a experienced user? Your channel is excellent!
Thank you! I still think the 16x is a great choice as long as you aren't looking for speed above 31mph, if you are, the 100v Nikola is the crowd favorite although I haven't had the chance to ride it extensively
@@OWGAC Where I live, speeds above 30mph are suicide mission. I'm very happy with 25mph. For now ^^
Nice wheel stand you have, from pipe.
thank you! I actually have a box of misc pipe fittings from making furniture, and made that stand just for the shoot. =D
@@OWGAC I would like to get a better look at that stand. I might make one of my own.
Your videos are incredible! I am a huge fan! Thanks for the great content
Thank you! I am glad that you enjoy them!
This is TH-cam greatness💯 it’s 16 people with no creativity it the dislikes
Again, you created one of the most enjoyable, down to earth review. Sick of all the adrenaline junkies that nag when a wheel does not go well over 35 mph... Keep it a little safe at least. Thinking about buying this wheel. And by the way, hope you read this because: what protective vest is that in the first few minutes ? Thx
I wear the Dainese CityGuard, its a nice jacket and really well padded. and Thanks! even on the Monster I haven't push much past 32mph, it is possible sure, but not something you can safely achieve given the unpredictable traffic and terrible road surfaces we have here!
Talking about cost comparison would help too.
Its a bit hard to compare the cost between the Nikola and the 16X since the Nikola comes in so many different voltage and battery pack configurations.
@@OWGAC Right, but recommending as a first wheel over say the 14D. Which i just bought as my first wheel. vs what features you get for the money at each price point with the different brands.
I've had my 14D for a week and it's incredibly fun and I am already eyeing that 16x based on youtube reviews. But there is a 1300 dollar difference to swallow.
Otherwise good review man.
This guy is awesome
What we really need is an EUC that's easier to learn. Something with horizontal auto stability?
inmotion made a two wheel side by side EUC that can stand by itself and is easy to learn on. but it also made the wheel difficult to lean and probably teaches bad habits.
Nice video ✅✅
And a lots info...
Saw you filming on someone else vlog on the demo
LOL we all had to share!
How many people had the wheel before you?
It still looks to be in good condition. I'm hoping that means the finish is forgiving when it comes to tumbles.
Just Chris and Eddie, the plastic feels pretty stiff and the wheel definitely feel solid. From what I have heard KS wheel can usually take some bad hit and keep on ticking. btw, if you saw the juggling kid in Chris' video, I don't have a photo of it, but his 16s looks like it tumble down a mountain and he said he had no issue with it.
Hsiang I was really asking about its cosmetic resistance to tumbles than its functional resistance (which is of course more important). Some wheels, especially those with hard, glossy plastic shells (*cough* Nikola) will look shabby quickly. Others don't look so bad after a scrape.
@@JonS ninebot smartly recessed the LED strip on the Z10, on the 16X its right on the edge, since it has a glossy cover I can see it getting scratched / damaged. The side panel is a textured plastic, more glossy than the Z10 but the fake carbon fiber pattern should hide some smaller scratches. the LED is the weak point.
Hsiang Thanks for adding those details. One day we'll have an EUC that follows all the best practices, but not in 2019.
Hsiang school
Great content - am reviewing this wheel and MSP to replace my V10F
Thx
I am curious to see if Gotway will respond to the V11 and S18. If they do, the field will look very different. I would wait.
@@OWGAC
Appreciate that advice, however I have no wheel and by the time they come out with something, probably Aug or longer before it's available.
Cheers
Would you still recommend this as a good first euc 2 years later?
I'm getting one within the month
Getting a serious Halo MasterChief Armour vibe off that design.
In fact, please King Song, someone, make a Masterchief version!
A "King Song Spartan" maybe!
Hi!
Would you recommend the 16x over the 16s for a beginner?
They are very different wheels as 16s is mid tier while 16x is a top end performance wheel. Unlike many other sport with euc it isn't a bad idea to jump to a top end wheel right from the get go if you don't mind the cost. As the larger motor and battery pack get you more stability, better brake and more safety margin. not a lot of downside other than the cost
Hsiang thanks!
I’ll be riding for fun and under 20 miles.
I think I get the 16x unless you have a better suggestion?
Great review and demo! I became interested in the e-Unicycles after seeing a guy riding one awhile back and after a little footwork, came across the KS18XL as the wheel I intended to purchase...then came across the 16X and liked what I saw and have been binging any and all reviews/videos about it ever since.! I did the Pre-Order and am really look forward to its release. I like the jacket you wear in the review - it looks padded, where can I get one? What other safety gear would you recommend (other than a full face helmet, which I purchased)? What kind of video equipment were you using? Any recommendations for 1st time owners on learning the riding ins and outs? Thanx again for the review!
Thank you! Get wrist guards and knee pads, you’ll only need a jacket once you’re going faster, which you shouldn’t do starting out. Also, get some pads for the wheels also since you’ll likely drop it quite a lot, if you haven’t already read up on the learning thread on the EUC forum. Lots of good tips there!
@@OWGAC Thanx! The pads for the EUC, can you purchase them already sized or is it something the rider builds for it himself?
What's the riding jacket brand you use? I enjoy your videos by the way!
It's from Dainese, I have 2 of their jacket and love their stuff!!
@@OWGAC Great I'll have to look them up!
Attached to your Cat🤣😂
A road bike has thin tires for speed, not stability. The mountain bike has the wider tires to be able to handle more terrain types, and uneven surfaces.
Stupid question but do you think that a Segway mini can get through those pedestrian columns on the pathway???
I lost to my patientence and got the 18xl. Now I am gonna say16x is a little too fat to comfort myself.
There are a lot of overlap between the two and I probably lean more towards the 16x simply because I am used to the Z10. 18XL is a great wheel!
I’m 6 3” 235lb size 13 shoe. Have been looking at KS 18XL but what about the KS 16X for my size? This is my first wheel but have ridden a friends V8 and I’m not new to electric rides. The more I watch reviews, people are saying the 3” tire is the way to go. Also, if KS had a 3” on the 18XL, would that change recommendation of either wheel?
Thanks
I think the KS16X would be better for you as it is slightly torquier due to the smaller diameter tire. Given the same motor power output, the smaller the diameter tire the more power you have (but top speed and stability is less)
Great video. Very helpful. What is the width of the tire on the 16X? When comparing the 16X to the 16S, what are the immediate pro's and con's between the two for a EUC beginner? What would make the 16X a better beginner wheel over the 16S and vice versa? Does the 16X come with a protective sleeve or case? Thanks in advance for your time.
the 16S is likely a more "beginner friendly" wheel, but only because it is lighter and likely more maneuverable, which the wider tire (3") on the 16x offset somewhat, since you can lean it over a bit more. the 16s don't offer as much room to grow as the 16x since its top speed of 22mph is slightly limiting. also, since EUC rely on motor braking, the 2000 watt motor on the 16x is going to provide better braking than the 1200 watt motor. If you can afford it I definitely recommend just going to the 16x.
Hsiang Does the 16X come with a protective sleeve? That would be a biggee too. I wouldn’t want to bang it all up. 😎
Dear Hsiang, I have often listened to your comments. Pretty impressive. But I would soon buy a new unicycle for long distances and comfort. I come from the Inmotion V10F and the new purchase should be between the Kingsong 18XL and 16X. Which of the two models could you recommend to me? I'm from Europe, Belgium
Hi thank you! I lean heavily towards the 16X as I feel that it is a nicely designed wheel, very compact and very stable. the 18XL did not feel like it has much advantages over the 16X, especially now they are going to start offering a seat for the 16X, that would be a very useful option for long distance riding.
Some people have been complaining about a weird oscillating effect on back to front at high speeds, have you been experiencing this with yours?
The wheel I rode was on a pretty early firmware and I did notice the oscillation but it was pretty subtle. similar to if you were to run over a set of parellel painted line on a smooth road, and this only happen close to max speed. Given the bad road surface we have in NYC it was mostly not noticeable.
@@OWGAC Thanks man! I'm torn between getting the 16X and the MsuperX, I ride a Z6 which although is not a Z10 I still love the wheel as it is my first EUC but now I need a more powerful wheel
@Scouts Honor I want to go MSX but I think I'll end up getting the Kingsong, I'm coming from a Z6 which is just a Z10 with a smaller motor an the 16X feels a little like the Z10 I've heard so it should be a smooth transition if I go for the 16X, I do love the speed on the MSX though but I also like the range and the safety of the 16X
@Scouts Honor I have no doubt you'll be happy with the MSX when you get it :)
My wheel is a kingson 16s which with a wait of 17 kg... can you jump on a regular size curb with a wheel this heavy ? i'm asking because i'm a noob still and i'm still learning.
I just both a mcm 5 and i realy recomand it its amazing
Its a great wheel from the little bit of riding time I had with it. But I am saving up for the big guy!!
You wasted non of my time. I greatly appreciate your view. Especially when you compare to your beloved Z10. This kingsong 16x will be my 3 wheel. 2nd wheel soon to be bought from the west coast branch of ewheels. Beutifly made video s .
Adam of montesano Washington. Thanks again
Your presentation is fantastic: I was never, once, bored! You riding through the cityscape of New York City was a thrill. I am new to the EUC world. Would you still recommend the Kind Song 16x as a starter EUC, even today, in 2021? Or, do you recommend something else? Any advice would be great!
I got the 16xs. Which is the cheaper version with half the battery. Its range is more like 25 miles at 185 lbs. It's an amazing wheel to learn on and I love it. I upgraded by buying the battery for the other side so besides the top speed being 28 instead of 31. It's basically the same wheel. And it's brought on alot of extra torque and the wheel feels much safer and balanced. Either way, this wheel is absolutely amazing. I love it and will keep it for a long time to come. The only reason id get another one is for suspension or alot more speed. Otherwise, this wheel does it all and will most likely go 45 miles now.
@@Tangeffect Thank you for your thoughts! Greatly appreciated.
Where can I find one used, when I don't live close to any riders?
check EUC forum & facebook groups! but shipping is unfortunately expensive..