@@joshjelden I haven’t tried the Balos, but it’s a premium daily trainer where as the Mach X2 is more of an uptempo trainer (or less expensive race-day option).
Love your short form videos here for the info on the mx2. Your delivery is on point and purposeful. Bravo. I had issues with the heel as well. The skyward x has a nice rigid heel also. Next run, I’ll place a piece of mole skin or a bandaid then we’ll see. Agreed this shoe has SOY 2024 potential. Take care
Just to let you know, last week I had my first real workout with them and I was continually losing the heel grip in both shoes! they finally hurt my heels ... impossible to continue running ... I can not understand why, I'm using Hoka for 10 years and I never had this problem (Clifton, Rincon, Bondi .... Mach X, Spead Goat, Mafate). Fortunately, I could return them to the retailer ....so sad 😢
That's a shame, although not entirely surprising. Every other shoe you mentioned has a padded and stiff heel counter, which will give a much better heel lock that the floppy heel on the Mach X2. You would probably have the same issue with the Rocket X2!
I was thinking about this one. But im a fan of speed 3’s. So i found discounted ss3’s. I didn’t want to worry about a new shoe. Ill stick with what i know
@@antoinebare8051 Yes, I think this would be a good marathon option for a lot of runners. It’s protective enough and that Peba in the forefoot makes it feel snappy.
The Cielo Road heel counter digs into my heel and destroys it. I really want to grab this shoe but all the other Shoe Tubers agree the heel is going to be a big issue for most runners. V1 the Heel counter was perfect.
@@Cellularsurfer I’ve heard the heel has been an issue for others but knowing the shoe now, I would feel comfortable buying this shoe. The heel is a little loose on my right foot, but not enough to prevent me from running efficiently and I haven’t had any rubbing.
@@its_Matt_B_ Yeah I felt the same way with the Cielo road but took it for run over 8 miles and my heel was bleeding. Will keep it for just track works out. Big Fan of your Channel. I am running Chicago and NYC Marathon in a few months.
@@Cellularsurfer Thanks for being part of the channel, Matthew! Good luck at Chicago and NYC! I’m a little jealous of your back-to-backs! 🤩 What are you going for? I’m guessing Chicago for speed and NYC for fun!?
@@its_Matt_B_ Yeah you are correct. I ran Boston in 23 (with you) and in 24. I don't have a BQ for Boston was 73 degrees this year and I got a time of 3:14I Chicago I am aiming for 3:05 or better. Love your quote " Even when its not so good.......ITS STILL SOO GOOD" Keep running Matt.
@@nicancelin3714 It doesn’t really compare because it’s far more race-inspired than the Mach 5 and 6. Still, the sizing is similar and it’s an epic shoe!
I ran in a demo last year's Mach X. It was OK but my expectations were higher. With this update performance seems to have improved but yeah, heel counter didn't have to be that floppy. Sometimes they are missing the point in training shoes. I liked the lateral heel rubber. I think it might last well. But frankly I don't like the price.
@@TolunayOrkun I agree on both counts: missing the point of a training shoe and the price. It seems Hoka struggles to keep their fast shoes light enough, so they probably figured the floppy heel counter was a good way to save a few grams. Also, the price….are they just testing the market? 🤷♂️
@@Brozneo Yes, you’re right about the similarities, and yes, I have the Rocket X2. I haven’t run in the RX2 for a few months but I remember the same heel issue with them. Like the MX2, the heel issue in the RX2 wasn’t enough to put me off wearing the shoe for anything.
I loved the last version of these, and I consoder getting these as my Endorphin speed 4 are atrocious for my heels. My heels twnd to chew through heel counters and that has me a bit concerned about these shoes.
@@Mumrik597 I really liked the original Mach X2 also, but this is a big step up. Have you run in a shoe with such a minimal heel before? I’m not sure what you mean about your heel chewing up the heel counters, but I’m wondering if less material may actually be a good thing for you!
@@its_Matt_B_ I get huge holes in my heels. And usually it doesn't matter at all, but in my Endorphin Speed 4 it causes a lot of discomfort. I've been thinking that maybe less material is good as well. It's really just a matter of testing I guess. Hokas usually got my feet extremely well 👌
As i've run in both, I can say I would choose the Cielo X1, however the choice isn't easy and the Mach X2 would be an excellent choice. The Mach X2 is slightly lighter than the Cielo X1, but the difference isn't noticeable to me. I think it really comes down to what you want to spend. If you can buy the Cielo X1, it would be a good choice, however I don't think anyone would be disappointed with the Mach X2 (unless the potential heel slip is a problem).
Do you prefer the ride of this or X1? U said this was a fun ride, many say the X1 is a fun ride. Seems the mach x2 is more racey than the x1 many say the x1 is good at all pacesand durable so probably an excellent training shoe as well? A bit confusing. Btw i think im Going to buy one of these shoes just cant decide!
@@liamhockey9189 if I had the choice and price wasn’t a concern I would go with the Cielo X1, but for $190 (a lot less than the X1) the Mach X2 are the way to go!
I haven't run in the the SB2 so can't comment on how they feel. Both the SB2 and the Mach X2 use a dual density midsole with a PEBA top piece, but the biggest difference is the plate in the MX2. Choosing one will come down to your preference for a plated shoe.
@@i.p2088 This is definitely wider than the Mach 6, but not quite as wide as the Cielo X1. It’s a solid shoe. It’s a shame it probably won’t work for you!
I don't care how good the Mach X2 is. I can't get over how bad the Mach X was and I wasted $180 for a dead shoe. I can't stomach buying anything Hoka ever again.
@@PatrickStar_24 Yeah, I get it. A bad experience can put you off a brand for life! The silver lining is that there are a lot of good brands with SO MANY good shoes, that to do away with one brand doesn’t really make a difference.
@@its_Matt_B_ You absolutely right Matt! This was my first training block ever and didn't really know what to expect or how to even build a shoe line up. My next full marathon block I'm really going to have a good idea what I want and prefer. Thanks for all your review videos!
@@PatrickStar_24I disliked the Bondi 8 immensely, likewise put me off Hoka for a while, but the Mach x 2 is everything I thought the Bondi 8 should have been to me, glad I got over the Bondi 8.
I'm torn between these and the NB Balos as my next purchase....have been loving the Hoka Skyward X
@@joshjelden I haven’t tried the Balos, but it’s a premium daily trainer where as the Mach X2 is more of an uptempo trainer (or less expensive race-day option).
If you’ve ever tried the Balos, consider this a race-trim version of that. Or you can think of it as the trainer version of the Cielo X1.
Came for info, stayed for the engaging delivery! Love the transitions, that’s my love language! 😂😂😂
@@AubreyRunning 😍 I can’t wait to hear your thoughts! This is one you need to try, Aubrey!
Love your short form videos here for the info on the mx2. Your delivery is on point and purposeful. Bravo. I had issues with the heel as well. The skyward x has a nice rigid heel also. Next run, I’ll place a piece of mole skin or a bandaid then we’ll see. Agreed this shoe has SOY 2024 potential. Take care
Hoka now is officially a very good running shoe company: Mach 6 this one Cielo x1 and Rocket X will make a great rotation.
@@snowwalker9999 100% agree! 🙌🏽
Just to let you know, last week I had my first real workout with them and I was continually losing the heel grip in both shoes! they finally hurt my heels ... impossible to continue running ... I can not understand why, I'm using Hoka for 10 years and I never had this problem (Clifton, Rincon, Bondi .... Mach X, Spead Goat, Mafate). Fortunately, I could return them to the retailer ....so sad 😢
That's a shame, although not entirely surprising. Every other shoe you mentioned has a padded and stiff heel counter, which will give a much better heel lock that the floppy heel on the Mach X2. You would probably have the same issue with the Rocket X2!
I was thinking about this one.
But im a fan of speed 3’s. So i found discounted ss3’s. I didn’t want to worry about a new shoe. Ill stick with what i know
@@Jay-sd9ye There’s comfort in staying with what we know and it’s a double-bonus when we can get what we know on discount!
This one look beast !!
Do you think it would be a good option for a marathon ?
@@antoinebare8051 Yes, I think this would be a good marathon option for a lot of runners. It’s protective enough and that Peba in the forefoot makes it feel snappy.
The Cielo Road heel counter digs into my heel and destroys it. I really want to grab this shoe but all the other Shoe Tubers agree the heel is going to be a big issue for most runners. V1 the Heel counter was perfect.
@@Cellularsurfer I’ve heard the heel has been an issue for others but knowing the shoe now, I would feel comfortable buying this shoe. The heel is a little loose on my right foot, but not enough to prevent me from running efficiently and I haven’t had any rubbing.
@@its_Matt_B_ Yeah I felt the same way with the Cielo road but took it for run over 8 miles and my heel was bleeding. Will keep it for just track works out. Big Fan of your Channel. I am running Chicago and NYC Marathon in a few months.
@@Cellularsurfer Thanks for being part of the channel, Matthew! Good luck at Chicago and NYC! I’m a little jealous of your back-to-backs! 🤩 What are you going for? I’m guessing Chicago for speed and NYC for fun!?
@@its_Matt_B_ Yeah you are correct. I ran Boston in 23 (with you) and in 24. I don't have a BQ for Boston was 73 degrees this year and I got a time of 3:14I Chicago I am aiming for 3:05 or better. Love your quote " Even when its not so good.......ITS STILL SOO GOOD" Keep running Matt.
How does it compare to the rest of the Mach line up? I have loved both my Mach 5s and Mach 6s so really tempted by this one.
@@nicancelin3714 It doesn’t really compare because it’s far more race-inspired than the Mach 5 and 6. Still, the sizing is similar and it’s an epic shoe!
I ran in a demo last year's Mach X. It was OK but my expectations were higher. With this update performance seems to have improved but yeah, heel counter didn't have to be that floppy. Sometimes they are missing the point in training shoes. I liked the lateral heel rubber. I think it might last well. But frankly I don't like the price.
@@TolunayOrkun I agree on both counts: missing the point of a training shoe and the price. It seems Hoka struggles to keep their fast shoes light enough, so they probably figured the floppy heel counter was a good way to save a few grams. Also, the price….are they just testing the market? 🤷♂️
The heel counter looks similar to the Rocket X2, have you run in the X2?
@@Brozneo Yes, you’re right about the similarities, and yes, I have the Rocket X2. I haven’t run in the RX2 for a few months but I remember the same heel issue with them. Like the MX2, the heel issue in the RX2 wasn’t enough to put me off wearing the shoe for anything.
@its_Matt_B_ Awesome - I have no issues with the Rocket X2 heel, so looking forward to getting the Mach X2
I loved the last version of these, and I consoder getting these as my Endorphin speed 4 are atrocious for my heels. My heels twnd to chew through heel counters and that has me a bit concerned about these shoes.
@@Mumrik597 I really liked the original Mach X2 also, but this is a big step up.
Have you run in a shoe with such a minimal heel before?
I’m not sure what you mean about your heel chewing up the heel counters, but I’m wondering if less material may actually be a good thing for you!
@@its_Matt_B_ I get huge holes in my heels. And usually it doesn't matter at all, but in my Endorphin Speed 4 it causes a lot of discomfort. I've been thinking that maybe less material is good as well. It's really just a matter of testing I guess. Hokas usually got my feet extremely well 👌
I find the speed 4s just generally too soft for myself, including the heel
Good to know, thanks 👍
@@liamhockey9189 🙌🏽
How would you choose between this and the cielo x1? I’m after a fast trainer I can wear into my first proper fast half marathon
As i've run in both, I can say I would choose the Cielo X1, however the choice isn't easy and the Mach X2 would be an excellent choice. The Mach X2 is slightly lighter than the Cielo X1, but the difference isn't noticeable to me. I think it really comes down to what you want to spend. If you can buy the Cielo X1, it would be a good choice, however I don't think anyone would be disappointed with the Mach X2 (unless the potential heel slip is a problem).
Hmm cost and heel issues may keep me away . Thanks for the review .
@@pbnotj1 I foresee a change in heel padding for the next iteration, but it’s really not bad enough to keep me from running in them!
Is the upper similar to the Boston 12?
Which upper is more comfortable?
I find the upper is more comfortable in the Mach X2. I'm not a fan of the Boston 12's upper!
Do you prefer the ride of this or X1? U said this was a fun ride, many say the X1 is a fun ride. Seems the mach x2 is more racey than the x1 many say the x1 is good at all pacesand durable so probably an excellent training shoe as well? A bit confusing. Btw i think im Going to buy one of these shoes just cant decide!
@@liamhockey9189 if I had the choice and price wasn’t a concern I would go with the Cielo X1, but for $190 (a lot less than the X1) the Mach X2 are the way to go!
any difference between the midsole of Asics Superblast 2 and Hoka Mach X? what would you recommend.
I haven't run in the the SB2 so can't comment on how they feel. Both the SB2 and the Mach X2 use a dual density midsole with a PEBA top piece, but the biggest difference is the plate in the MX2. Choosing one will come down to your preference for a plated shoe.
Will I run at mach speed in these shoes?
@@MyFatAdaptedLife Mach something. Definitely faster than Mach 6! 😉
@@its_Matt_B_ copy that
How narrow are these v Mach X or Mach 6?
@@SS-bk2zb They fit very similar to both the Mach X and the Mach 6. They are wider than the Rincon 4 and the Skyflow.
Cielo X1 is the only Hoka that fits my wide feet. Mach 6 WIDE was not wide for me 😭
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@@i.p2088 This is definitely wider than the Mach 6, but not quite as wide as the Cielo X1. It’s a solid shoe. It’s a shame it probably won’t work for you!
I don't care how good the Mach X2 is. I can't get over how bad the Mach X was and I wasted $180 for a dead shoe. I can't stomach buying anything Hoka ever again.
@@PatrickStar_24 Yeah, I get it. A bad experience can put you off a brand for life! The silver lining is that there are a lot of good brands with SO MANY good shoes, that to do away with one brand doesn’t really make a difference.
@@its_Matt_B_ You absolutely right Matt! This was my first training block ever and didn't really know what to expect or how to even build a shoe line up. My next full marathon block I'm really going to have a good idea what I want and prefer. Thanks for all your review videos!
@@PatrickStar_24I disliked the Bondi 8 immensely, likewise put me off Hoka for a while, but the Mach x 2 is everything I thought the Bondi 8 should have been to me, glad I got over the Bondi 8.
2:03 Hyperion max 2, I hope you meant grams 😂
@@Marsbar2024 🤣 Yes! 315oz is a tad heavy! Good catch!
@its_Matt_B_ that certainly would be some lead boots!
💸💸💸
For sure on the upper end of the price continuum for this kind of shoe.
@@its_Matt_B_ that’s my money going to this shoe 😂
@@eriktred Oh…🤣. Yep, say goodbye! 💰💨
Bad heel slip on the mach X.
Yeah, it's an issue for sure. It's still a great option!