Even if it wasn't completely bugged, the fact that exe now kills 2 after winning, combining that with the fact that the target can be evil, a townie being able to die for guiltying an evil is pretty stupid
That depends on the situation actually. If you know you are getting shot, then use defence. In a 1v1 against town(except against a Vet), you would use defence in case anything goes wrong.
Thank goodness. Doomsayer existing is what made me love TOS2 a million times more than the first one. I literally quit TOS2 once I learned about that because it sounds obnoxious to play as an evil right now. And even as town it ruins the fun of trying to figure out who’s evil. I really do hope it gets reverted as soon as possible so I can go back to playing All Any or any game mode where Doomsayer can spawn without having VFR return in a game with much more powerful town roles.
@@LAZERAK47V2 if you ask me it was a kneejerk patch to try to make doomsayer less of an "anti coven role" (since that's sorta what it ends up being most of the time since it could guess 3 coven randomly, potentially killing them)
I remember time when 3 ts claims left without will and one of them was me as deputy. My next phrase was: "11 dies" and just insta shoot him not expecting him to be evil, but more for his name and to eliminate ts no will claim. And he was arso who got nearly all town doused. The funniest moment for me.
*A serial killer attacked you but your Defense was too high!(this is perfectly fine) a coven member attacked you but you’re Defense is too high!* *(uh oh purple deputy incoming)*
Coroner can actually be fun to play if you know what you're doing - turning a choice of two unknown evils into one or just randomly finding a killer will help the town a lot more than most people think
Ok so I'm not the only one who misses old Amne. Being able to be whatever role you wanted as long as it was in the graveyard was THE most fun thing. And I know they removed Neutral Benign roles and all but I miss it
This whole video screams the meme “This is what Town of Salem players have been demanding your respect for years”, but 0:35 would absolutely be the stinger of “Statements dreamed up by the utterly deranged”
1:30 i say that. It's not even a nerf. Winning with doomsayer would be even more easy because nobody would see you as a threat. It was the perfect change.
@@crescentmoon5686it was literally rigged against NA lmao. NA with no supporting NK roles to waste time is actually awful. Doesn't help that they have no defense against TI and they only have one questionably pathetic killing role that by the time it's able to do any real damage is already lynched.
I love it too. The fact that Coroner can't be tricked, and people hate it so much it's also good for fake claiming when Coven because you know what role bookholder is.
I legitimately do not scroll unless I'm just trying to get rid of the boat load of swag scrolls I got given. My favorite role probably is coroner, too.
Honestly, part of me feels that a valid rework for the Doomsayer could be that if they get 2 guesses wrong (maybe 3 if that's too extreme) they doom themselves. Lorewise it could be like they really aggravated the ancient ones, and the most important part is it gets rid of guessing random Coven N1 since you now also have a chance of straight up dying and it will make the Doomsayer actually have to do a little bit of deduction before they go around guessing. No more three coven deaths N1, yeah?
No, I personally find guessing roles as Doom hard. Considering that only ti’s outright claim and that executioners mess up vfa by saying 6 and 9 are enemies so town pushes somebody else you’re really left clueless to roles. I think 3 coven dying is just really bad luck but too uncommon for it to be that big of an issue.
0:50 Isn't it a great idea tho?You want to reject the admirer as tpow, especially as mayor since you are so valuable to town. (Except pros and monarch but still)
@elllaf Amne being better in this game, I don't wanna see a Jest anim, I don't want to buy well anything in the game much less the boat load of swag, and I have never used a scroll.
SOUNDS LIKE OUR PIPETRON BROTHA DIED FROM COVID NO MORE UPLOADS FLY HIGH 🕊️ BROTHA YOU MADE A LIVING FOR A SHORT WHILE. AT LEAST YOUR FAMILIES AND FAMILY OF FAMILY IS GONNA RICH FOR GENERATIONS TO COME! MAY YOU REST IN PEACE 🕊️!
I love coroner Fuck trickster tho like they introduce a mechanic in tos1 to stop certain roles from unfairly dying and now there's a role that neglects that ability at the cost of the trickster dying unfairly too? like sucks to suck should have rolled vigi
My pc handling pirate win: fine My pc wheh 3 role picures burn in a cool circle while theres a guy in middle and purple background(doomsayer win):Crashes
Basically they changed it so that Doomsayer only kills one person, meaning VFR has made a comeback and made playing evil roles a whole lot harder than it already is. It’s super easy for the Doomsayer to side with town, kill an evil and guess 2 other town roles. It also shows who the doom targets are which can hard clear two townies or potentially out the roles of two evils. So no more Doomsayers breaking chains, wiping Coven when they have majority, all of that has been ruined. Hopefully they revert the change immediately cause i’ve practically quit TOS2 until then.
@@naiveideen1638 Yep. It was a horrible decision and I’m certainly not the only one who agrees with that. Hope it goes back to normal as soon as possible.
Thank all the gods doom is being un-nerfed. It dooms 3 people based on their roles. Have YOU ever been doomed and survive? Didn't think so. You're not Pestillence, Death, Famine, or War, and if anyone dooms the pirate they get reported (Kill town or something, Pirate is literally just vibing.)
Famine, Pestilence, War, Pirate and other Doomsayers: Boy do I have news for you! But yeah the Doomsayer rework is abysmal and I hope it gets changed immediately.
in terms of the doomsayer change, it was actually a buff for hte doomsayer itself while a nerf the quality of the game. Doomsayer change meant doomsayer could just out themself as doomsayer and work with town. Winning as doomsayer had never been easier. you put two town roles in the bottom 2 slots and guess random coven trickster style for hte top slot until you got it right and town would actually work with you to make it happen because doom became beneficial for town. not only does it kill a coven when the coven is found but it also hard confirms the two town members that gave you their role. it was very unhealthy for the game. Thankfully they reverted the change. Doomsayer is one of the reasons tos2 is much better than tos2. VFR SUCKS. but i like vfa. i think it makes the game a lot more strategic and balanced. TOS1 had such a ridiculously unbalanced winrate in favor of town and tos2 actually feels almost even.
Am I genuinely the only one who likes the TOS 2 Amne over the TOS 1 amne? I’ve been able to make a couple good plays even without remembering a role so it could be a skill issue
"I am Purple Deputy" *Proceeds to throw rock at Tpow claim*
"I think the torment system for the Executioner works perfectly fine as it is!" *Gets shot by a Vigilante*
Even if it wasn't completely bugged, the fact that exe now kills 2 after winning, combining that with the fact that the target can be evil, a townie being able to die for guiltying an evil is pretty stupid
"i think ill use my defense tonight" nobody as coven leader
I mean it’s good in tt but that’s about it
That depends on the situation actually. If you know you are getting shot, then use defence. In a 1v1 against town(except against a Vet), you would use defence in case anything goes wrong.
I can’t believe it’s been more than a year since I’ve done a “things nobody says” video! They’re some of my favorite videos I’ve made!
lets hope this is as good as the first one
noice spoggers u got there mr adrees
And they are the funniest to watch XD
It's been a year? Why is time going so fast
That doomsayer one is funny because apparently the change is planned to be reverted
Good, that was a silly nerf to begin with.
Thank goodness. Doomsayer existing is what made me love TOS2 a million times more than the first one. I literally quit TOS2 once I learned about that because it sounds obnoxious to play as an evil right now. And even as town it ruins the fun of trying to figure out who’s evil. I really do hope it gets reverted as soon as possible so I can go back to playing All Any or any game mode where Doomsayer can spawn without having VFR return in a game with much more powerful town roles.
I feel like in order to make the nerf justified, doom should be able to guess alignment. Although that might actually kill the game so idk
@@LAZERAK47V2 if you ask me it was a kneejerk patch to try to make doomsayer less of an "anti coven role" (since that's sorta what it ends up being most of the time since it could guess 3 coven randomly, potentially killing them)
And now it just got fixed. This is so epic.
“What’s your exact role?” -Revealed Mayor
“ok doom” -Prosecutor
(Mayor) died today.
They were prosecuted.
Their role was Mayor.
dont forget "The prosecutor has disconnected"
What is this trolling
"Its only day two, I should save my deputy shot for when I know an evil I can shoot." Said no deputy ever.
I remember time when 3 ts claims left without will and one of them was me as deputy.
My next phrase was: "11 dies" and just insta shoot him not expecting him to be evil, but more for his name and to eliminate ts no will claim. And he was arso who got nearly all town doused.
The funniest moment for me.
@@partygunthatwillsquishyou3719THE ONE TIME YOLO SHOOTING AS DEP WORKS
@@partygunthatwillsquishyou3719You’re throwing, should’ve shot either the tpow claim or the confirmed seer
“You know, I probably shouldn’t go on the TPLO call. I might kill a Townie!” Said no Crusader ever
*A serial killer attacked you but your Defense was too high!(this is perfectly fine) a coven member attacked you but you’re Defense is too high!* *(uh oh purple deputy incoming)*
Alternatively, if you were attacked by witch: uh oh, night purple dep coming (ritualist)
Damn, the always-accepting one hits me way too hard. I've STILL never been rejected as Admirer, no matter how much I beg the target in advance!
Imagine going on a bread during work and first thing you see in your feed is a Adagia video.
For once TH-cam, you didn't fail me.
He said bread. Hang him!
:Bread:
“The tracker cant be ww he saw me visit where i went!”
"We don't need to worry about Death today"
Since I’m here before the premire: Let’s Leave the Soul Collector Claim alone
I said that. I miss four horsemen...
My first game as conjurer i had no idea how to play it well, other Coven told me to save for a town power, then mayor reveals D2 and I get them lol
"I just like the witch's skin for its aesthetics"
As a Bridget fan, I just like witches, I promise. Just because I love witch designs. Trust me
tru
everyone knows CL is actually peak aesthetics
Doomsayer change is being reverted dw
Illu in a spy and Crus game
Illu:yeah I should visit tn like what could go wrong?
"Proceeds to die from Crus"
The more realistic ending: Crus kills spy who saw illusion
Coroner can actually be fun to play if you know what you're doing - turning a choice of two unknown evils into one or just randomly finding a killer will help the town a lot more than most people think
Ok so I'm not the only one who misses old Amne. Being able to be whatever role you wanted as long as it was in the graveyard was THE most fun thing. And I know they removed Neutral Benign roles and all but I miss it
A new video from Adagia always brings the good mood.
Me who has school at 7:00 P.M. and won't be able to see the video:
"I don't understand why Pirate is banned from ranked. It's one of the most skill-based roles in the game!"
As a coroner lover thi- *gets hit by a meteor for bad role liking*
Jailor claim d1!!!!
The jailor died tonight
They were killed by the rit
They were also dommed by the doomsayer
They didnt have a last will
They were WHAT by the doomsayer?
@@CR1MSONACE y’all need help.
@@Adagia sorry, intrusive thought.
@@AdagiaWildling in every game they're in
Peolpe hate in DW but its like the best way other than PM to tell if someone is a townie or a Neutral
Me when im shroud, with 3 seers in game and getting 2 kills every night:
This whole video screams the meme “This is what Town of Salem players have been demanding your respect for years”, but 0:35 would absolutely be the stinger of “Statements dreamed up by the utterly deranged”
1:30 i say that. It's not even a nerf. Winning with doomsayer would be even more easy because nobody would see you as a threat. It was the perfect change.
Hey man I really do miss four horseman mode :(
I thought it was pretty cool
@@crescentmoon5686it was literally rigged against NA lmao. NA with no supporting NK roles to waste time is actually awful. Doesn't help that they have no defense against TI and they only have one questionably pathetic killing role that by the time it's able to do any real damage is already lynched.
Imma be honest. I legit love Coroner lmao
I love it too. The fact that Coroner can't be tricked, and people hate it so much it's also good for fake claiming when Coven because you know what role bookholder is.
"As a deputy I won't shoot the mayor"
The devs were watching, doom nerf has been reverted
I legitimately do not scroll unless I'm just trying to get rid of the boat load of swag scrolls I got given.
My favorite role probably is coroner, too.
I had a conjurer game and won without using my ability. Accidently won by killing a lover duo at night instead of day...
Honestly, part of me feels that a valid rework for the Doomsayer could be that if they get 2 guesses wrong (maybe 3 if that's too extreme) they doom themselves. Lorewise it could be like they really aggravated the ancient ones, and the most important part is it gets rid of guessing random Coven N1 since you now also have a chance of straight up dying and it will make the Doomsayer actually have to do a little bit of deduction before they go around guessing. No more three coven deaths N1, yeah?
No, I personally find guessing roles as Doom hard. Considering that only ti’s outright claim and that executioners mess up vfa by saying 6 and 9 are enemies so town pushes somebody else you’re really left clueless to roles. I think 3 coven dying is just really bad luck but too uncommon for it to be that big of an issue.
at least the doomer nerf was reverted, but yes, they need to allow more than 1 of any given skin in a game
Ahaha this is hilarious and so accurate. Great video!
0:50 Isn't it a great idea tho?You want to reject the admirer as tpow, especially as mayor since you are so valuable to town. (Except pros and monarch but still)
Yep. It is a great idea, which is why nobody ever says it 🥲
Ive unironically said 4 of these...
Which ones?
@elllaf Amne being better in this game, I don't wanna see a Jest anim, I don't want to buy well anything in the game much less the boat load of swag, and I have never used a scroll.
Speaking as someone that hates stressful high power roles, I do love coroner, though I like BG and trickster more.
Doomsayer doesn't kill three people anymore?!? NOOOOOOOOOOO
I actually do say no to admirers as TPOW...
i miss four horsemen :( i played it so much when tos2 first came out
WE HAVE A P2
SOUNDS LIKE OUR PIPETRON BROTHA DIED FROM COVID NO MORE UPLOADS FLY HIGH 🕊️ BROTHA YOU MADE A LIVING FOR A SHORT WHILE. AT LEAST YOUR FAMILIES AND FAMILY OF FAMILY IS GONNA RICH FOR GENERATIONS TO COME! MAY YOU REST IN PEACE 🕊️!
I love coroner
Fuck trickster tho like they introduce a mechanic in tos1 to stop certain roles from unfairly dying and now there's a role that neglects that ability at the cost of the trickster dying unfairly too? like sucks to suck should have rolled vigi
My pc handling pirate win: fine
My pc wheh 3 role picures burn in a cool circle while theres a guy in middle and purple background(doomsayer win):Crashes
Why would they get rid of four horsemen mode?
how do you have so much tp
Some viewers use me as their referral :)
(Loving the Celeste pfp btw)
Pipeptron passed away, upload moreeee tos2
Dw is kinda useful if they dont have book ngl
Wait what is this doom change?
Havent played tos2 in a while, bg3 too good, but love the content
Basically they changed it so that Doomsayer only kills one person, meaning VFR has made a comeback and made playing evil roles a whole lot harder than it already is. It’s super easy for the Doomsayer to side with town, kill an evil and guess 2 other town roles. It also shows who the doom targets are which can hard clear two townies or potentially out the roles of two evils.
So no more Doomsayers breaking chains, wiping Coven when they have majority, all of that has been ruined. Hopefully they revert the change immediately cause i’ve practically quit TOS2 until then.
@@singingsun04 whaaat but that was the fun in a doomsayer. you actually guess 3 roles and watch as the town (or the coven) implodes in a single turn.
@@naiveideen1638 Yep. It was a horrible decision and I’m certainly not the only one who agrees with that. Hope it goes back to normal as soon as possible.
@@naiveideen1638 Let’s go they just fixed it!
Thank all the gods doom is being un-nerfed. It dooms 3 people based on their roles. Have YOU ever been doomed and survive? Didn't think so. You're not Pestillence, Death, Famine, or War, and if anyone dooms the pirate they get reported (Kill town or something, Pirate is literally just vibing.)
Famine, Pestilence, War, Pirate and other Doomsayers: Boy do I have news for you!
But yeah the Doomsayer rework is abysmal and I hope it gets changed immediately.
@@singingsun04 Pirate being doomed and living is if they won.
Why you gotta diss the 4 horsemen player (me)
in terms of the doomsayer change, it was actually a buff for hte doomsayer itself while a nerf the quality of the game. Doomsayer change meant doomsayer could just out themself as doomsayer and work with town. Winning as doomsayer had never been easier. you put two town roles in the bottom 2 slots and guess random coven trickster style for hte top slot until you got it right and town would actually work with you to make it happen because doom became beneficial for town. not only does it kill a coven when the coven is found but it also hard confirms the two town members that gave you their role. it was very unhealthy for the game. Thankfully they reverted the change. Doomsayer is one of the reasons tos2 is much better than tos2. VFR SUCKS. but i like vfa. i think it makes the game a lot more strategic and balanced. TOS1 had such a ridiculously unbalanced winrate in favor of town and tos2 actually feels almost even.
Am I genuinely the only one who likes the TOS 2 Amne over the TOS 1 amne? I’ve been able to make a couple good plays even without remembering a role so it could be a skill issue
Wdym coroner is the best role.
1:29 this already aged poorly lol.
omfg calling out all the witch skin enjoyers, I see lmao
tbh coroner is better than invest now
Why do others like the witch skin? Tf
I LOVE witch skin WHAT!? nobody likes it?
nah nah
she’s saying that nobody says they like the witch skin for the aesthetics
this means they like it for its, ah, other qualities
Who still plays the original TOS?
You sound like peridot lmao
🙃 *Promo sm*