Fun fact: one role is excluded from this list because there’s literally no unique way to throw the game as it. If you can figure out which one it is, you get a cookie
Vig in CAA: “If I shoot a random player other than myself, it’s roughly a 8/10 chance to hit an evil, but it’s a 1/8 chance for that evil to not have def”
The amne one is funny too, cause there's a Pipe vid where another amne claimed publicly and Pipe remembered jugg, getting the other amne lynched for being jugg whilst using this exact line.
When going over Retributionist at 5:42, and talking about targeting themself, it reminds me of a Pipetron video in which the Retri offed themselves because the final evil was between the Retri and somebody else. By offing himself, he guaranteed the last 2 town a victory the next day, because there was only one unconfirmed person. Wish I could find it, but it’d be like finding a needle in a haystack.
Funny enough back when ToS first came out I had a strategy where I would pretend to sell out my fellow mafia. I would just put in my will how much I hated mafia, and wanted them to lose, then I would "reveal" who my other mafia were. Of course I made sure the only actual mafia I listed were already dead, the rest were random townies. Surprisingly this actually worked more than once, really surprising because I was a noob who had no idea how to play and would often accuse about five or six different people of being mafia, in addition to people who had already been hard confirmed.
@@insertname3293 Depends on the execution. If you write only a dead mafia/forged mafia as your real maf and the rest are townies and use your will for it rather than saying it yourself, it doesn't count as throwing. Any other way, its throwing since the strat is so trash and is immediately countered by a 1f1. Remember mafia have less member than town in an average game (All any excluded) which means losing a single maf member is worse for maf than town losing a town member. You cannot reveal your fellow mafia to town without discernible reason (e.g. the mafia in question was outed by a TI in which case you probably can out them unless you are confident they can shake off the sus.).
Bro the vigi shooting the mayor triggers me lol I was actively pushing and asking for roles and lynching evils and the following night i died to vigi shot. When asked, the vigi said they shot me bc i was too quiet. I cried.
Hey now, I've won by claiming Blue Vigi as SK more times than not, so I'd say is valid since town will typically forget that you're actually evil until they realize they're stuck in a kingmaker position between who wins between you and another evil
3:20 this literally happened to me one game, my ga protected once N1 to confirm themselves and tried to get me lynched so they could become surv. In the end maf killed me (prob cuz ga tbh) so they got their wish. But luckily for me pirate killed them the night the game ended so they lost as surv, while I won with town.
thank you for talking about the psychics, everyone always fricks up so bad because they dont pay attention to the message in the role card (*at least* one of your targets will be good/evil)
I was pestilence once (No GA), got to the end and it was a 2v1 between me and a mafioso with a GA. For some reason, the entire server was v e r y upset with me when I attacked the GA and not the Mafioso because the GA could (and did) heal the Mafioso. No guys, I wouldn't let the GA become a survivor and win too because they could've healed the Mafioso and I would've lost, and I was right. So stop bullying me damnit
This was meant for CAA but it works well as an example of the ppl in classic rn. Except Amne. Amne claims d1 are usually trusted on there and aren't pushed until late game.
One game I was a retributionist against 2 other evils and instead of being a kingmaker, I went to shoot myself with the vigilante, but it sadly doesn't work (for some reason, can't imagine why) Edit: vigi was prob out of bullets
Hmm. That’s weird. Are you sure they weren’t forged? It’s been a couple years since then, so things may have been changed, but I did have a retri game where I shot myself with a vigi
@@Adagia aah that could be it since I dont remember the full game that happened, I will try to shoot myself with vigi next opportunity I get to help the town know if it is not forged
@@llamanortena6600 was playing town traitor and couldn’t veticide. This was in the sweet spot in 2020 between when retri got reworked to stop rezzing people and when forger was reworked to forge roles. Before that rework, retri couldn’t be tt, so now that it could, people were overly suspicious of them. Rather than waste a vote on me in the tt hunt, I shot myself with the vigi. We might have needed to vote a medium or mayor or something during the day, idk it was a long time ago. If the comment above is right though, you might not be able to do it anymore. Maybe y’all could help me test it later today
6:00 That’s legit what someone did in a game a while back, I got so mad. Was jailor, pressured him to reveal because he was one of only two not confirmed people in the game.
Bro same. It was a passive town so even tho I was escorts I took the lead since passive towns lose. In the end, the vfr was the mayor and he hated me even tho I had confirmation on who I rbed. Fun times
3:02 This makes me think how VH stakes some one, I have now come to the conclusion where he stabs his stake right through the stomach, that’s why the townie what’s to stop being confirmed as not vamp.
Bmer hits me the most. There were a few times before the new color coded messages that I would whisper somebody else and wonder how I knew and then accuse me immediately lmao
One time I literally claimed Arsonist, and told anyone to whisper any douse requests. Another person who turned out to be a second Arsonist helped me douse specific people and we got the whole town up in flames, and people forgot I was Arsonist.
As escort block confirmed Ti or Tp claims they could have been bit by a vamp so you should make sure that they did not turn , preventing this situation is way more important then then the Ti getting useful info or the Tp protecting the mayor
@@LegoLad659 No, gamethrowing is when you intentionally lose the game. If you know you'll be a confirmed survivor and have a better chance of winning, throwing your GA target under the bus is not technically gamethrowing.
@@missmorbid1439 Per the rules on their website: "Intentionally losing the game or hurting your teams chances of winning(even if that team is just you) is gamethrowing." The only way I can see that situation not falling under this banner is if you can somehow prove to me that your GA target is not your teammate. So please, enlighten me.
@@LegoLad659 Your GA target isn't your teammate. You can win, despite your target losing. If your target is a pirate, for example. Also, if your target is amne and remembers jester, your goals will now be opposed. Intentionally becoming a survivor by getting your target killed and siding with the faction that's winning will increase your chances of winning, and is therefore not gamethrowing.
@@missmorbid1439 Okay, so the GA strategy is to get your target lynched, because it's easier to win as surv than as GA (GAs get targeted by enemy factions a lot). Good to know everyone is playing GA wrong.
Wait i legit DO ignite n1 as arso to check for other arsos... Also Necro reanimating pesti is an achievement just make sure your coven team mate stays home
this reminds me of a game where I was LO on jailor and the vigi visited him I posted my will and the vigi got upped and when they saw vigi they exe me and he got mad at me I think hes the one who made the mistake unless its a strategy to shoot the jailor
I mean, not healing every poisoned person is often the right move. A lot of times, they're just evil. Unless they actually claim their role, I tend to ignore poisoned claims
Me when someone threatened to hang me and someone said “They have a role they can’t claim right now” at the same time as I said “I’ll shoot you don’t threaten me” And everyone was like “Why did you claim?” And I was like “I just wanted to threaten to shoot someone 😂”
2 things I do that are as close to gamethrowing without gamethrowing 1. When I die as mafia I set as many random numbers as there are mafia remaining in my last will. They won’t be mafia and are designed to trick Town into voting their own Allie’s out, giving my mafia an advantage. 2. I will jail a revealed mayor. Although most people probably do this. I like to jail D1 mayor reveals so that they aren’t immediately dead by D2 and reveal to them who I am
2:34 Pardoned by a vote of- Hold on, this would require all of the following: -A Mayor exists -The Mayor has revealed -Nobody has left the game yet (which in and of itself makes the situation implausible) -Nobody has died in any way yet -Every player in the lobby is content with leaving you alive. -Yet, adding onto that previous point, enough players previously found you suspicious to be able to vote you up. -Nobody has abstained on their vote (again, this alone makes the scenario implausible) Come on, if you're gonna make these scenarios, at least make them realistic! Like, make the Pirate block the Jailor because the "Survivor" (the only real claim) is about to be executed but the Escort disagreed so she was gonna roleblock him anyway! Come on! (/j) Also, at 4:31, it would've been funny if you had the Godfather's secondary method right afterwards being "No need to coordinate; the Mafioso will be on the Mayor"
2:39 not gonna lie, I don't get why this one is a bad one, I won a game like that, the fact you can gain the info of who visited who if they have the plague is great to fake claim Tracker, I was a pain in the ass of maf cause I knew who they were visiting, and that made me "confirm" to Town
It's because, usually, when PB becomes Pest, the first people to be voted are Tracker claims since they share invest results, and, as you said, PB can reasonably fake tracker
@@guilhermedom2228 To be fair, I do believe that Tracker is a reasonable fake claim, but it's a risky one. Unlike usual, you don't want to infect everyone quickly. The best case scenario, 4 people are left, with two infected townies, you, and an uninfected, outed evil. They get voted, and you become pestilence immediately. Then, you can kill one of them. Basically, tracker is a surprise Pest claim, which is risky because you can't always control when you become pestilence. Plus, if maf call you out for having defense, even if you have the perfect tracker claim, town is gonna keep in mind that you're possibly PB. Essentially, I don't really think it's throwing, but it's almost never the best fake claim for you. If you wanna use the info you get as PB, though it might be more difficult, it's usually safer to claim LO, or, if you're feeling spicy, arsonist, though that would require a delicate balance itself
I accidentally threw by sending a message meant for mafia chat and NOBODY NOTICED. Mind you: THIS WAS RANKED. I was telling my mafioso to write a joke about a townie that got lynched, but sent it during the day accidentally. (I was godfather, we won without a single mafia or the witch dying.)
I had great game in VIP a few weeks ago. As CL I controlled a random person into medusa, but medusa was like #8 and I was #7 so I misclicked and the person I found was ofc the vigilante :) Shot myself N1, gj.
Im a bad player but i never know when to self heal, but I realise i seem to usually die after blocking a maf kill and confirming im for sure doctor, so maybe i need to just take that gamble
Yeah... it's not really possible to throw as survivor. I guess you could claim something extremely evil and dangerous and demand to be hanged/executed immediately? "As a survivor publicly claim arsonist day 1, then when jailed n2, claim you lied and you're actually SK, then demand the jailer exe you so they don't die." Maybe that would count? XD
Worst throws I've ever seen is when a guy claimed to be a member of the mafia and started ratting his team out. However, that wasn't the real case as he was actually just making the town kill each other. I was mayor when he got me killed and it was during the era where disguiser hides as the exact roll. Literally everyone thought he was telling the truth until the mafia won
Funny Framer Throw is how I framer meta... Mafia are 6 4 and 12 (really they are 12 9 and 15) Sell out one of my normal mafia and frame one of my targets that way if I die n1 Mafia has a 1 in 3 chance of being found... bonus effect is that stupid vigi's would shoot if the 12 was found as mafia one of the other townies... if not both turning it into a massive gain for mafia... imagine trading 2 mafia's for 4 townies...
I was vampire but there’s more context to this : they died I’m just her fake claiming that I’m going to be away until day seven dude literally bites me gets killed vamp chat I say Bruh but they left so I just left pretty good game ngl
Lol the jester throw just happened in my last game an hour ago. This player claimed jester to me when I was jailor, but their jest tactic was to push the medium claim and actually got them lynched. So I was like, nah you got a town killed, so that's literally guilty. 😡 I thought most jailors would spare the jester.
Bro one time i was amne i public claimed then 2 nights later a DIFFERENT AMNE REMEMBERED PB AND DIED THE SAME NIGHT (it shows them as amne even tho they remembered smth but it says the amne remember message still)
fr though, the guardian angel strat shouldn't be considered gamethrowing since you're still likely winning any way. I know the trial mods punish it as such but if you just keep quiet about it while you and town are hanging your target I feel like you can just claim you didn't push it and get away with it
Here's the jailor throw. ALWAYS exe the doc who whispered crus D1 and fake claimed jailor, successfully baiting an evil. If you're the jailor who did this to me, disrespectfully stop making decisions.
Btw if the game is going slow as forger you can foge some one to be Vh works on confirmed Town like mayor towm will beleave it was a Vh 110% of the time
Fun fact: one role is excluded from this list because there’s literally no unique way to throw the game as it. If you can figure out which one it is, you get a cookie
Mayor?
Jest?
Yellow. - I knew it!
surv?
Surv?
The virgin "Shoot the mayor" vigilante vs Chad "reanimate the vigilante to shoot a fellow coven member so you can 'confirm' yourself" necromancer.
(11 months late) or the giga chad off themself Vigi retri combo
Vig n2: "If I shoot a random player besides myself, its a roughly 6/12 chance to kill a evil, I like my odds"
Vig in CAA:
“If I shoot a random player other than myself, it’s roughly a 8/10 chance to hit an evil, but it’s a 1/8 chance for that evil to not have def”
@@sanga1380 and a 1/1 chance to random shoot the mayor if they exist and are hidden in r2
Oh and haven't done anything to make you shoot them just being normal
N2 vig: randomly shoots
D3 vig: I was witched
The witch that just vibing: *sad vibing noise*
"Hmmm. No way there's three lookouts chaining on D2. Better shoot the one that saw the mafioso visiting. Bet that's CL."
The amne one is funny too, cause there's a Pipe vid where another amne claimed publicly and Pipe remembered jugg, getting the other amne lynched for being jugg whilst using this exact line.
If you’re an Amne and another Amne claims Amne, it’s a perfect time to remember something Evil.
@@AnotherDuck Amne and survivors are natural enemies
Just as amne and guardian angels
Or amne and amne
Damn amnesiacs, they ruined neutrail benigns
@@michasokoowski6651 I like to think of it as they made it less safe for neutrals to sit in their corner and hope they survive to the end.
As vigilante, play as TI. Shoot people to confirm their roles
As a total vigilante player, I can confirm all of this
as vigilante I shoot as soon as day 2* if you do not speak within two days doesn’t matter what you are you’re getting shot
Best strategy, if they survive they're evil
jester comes up as inno though
@@averagemicrosoftpaintenjoy7115 that's not important, jester can't survive a bullet
Finally, thanks Adagia, now I can throw competitively rather than casual throwing.
I must be a natural talent because I don’t even need to watch this video to absolutely throw the game for any role I get.
When going over Retributionist at 5:42, and talking about targeting themself, it reminds me of a Pipetron video in which the Retri offed themselves because the final evil was between the Retri and somebody else. By offing himself, he guaranteed the last 2 town a victory the next day, because there was only one unconfirmed person. Wish I could find it, but it’d be like finding a needle in a haystack.
If you find it please give me the name
There was also a video of him necroinging pest in order to get double kill and kill immune person
Funny enough back when ToS first came out I had a strategy where I would pretend to sell out my fellow mafia. I would just put in my will how much I hated mafia, and wanted them to lose, then I would "reveal" who my other mafia were. Of course I made sure the only actual mafia I listed were already dead, the rest were random townies. Surprisingly this actually worked more than once, really surprising because I was a noob who had no idea how to play and would often accuse about five or six different people of being mafia, in addition to people who had already been hard confirmed.
Why throw when you can just let the town be naturally stupid?
@@bartudundar3193 now that i think about it, is it throwing if you say fake mafia names to fuck the town over?
@@insertname3293 Depends on the execution. If you write only a dead mafia/forged mafia as your real maf and the rest are townies and use your will for it rather than saying it yourself, it doesn't count as throwing. Any other way, its throwing since the strat is so trash and is immediately countered by a 1f1.
Remember mafia have less member than town in an average game (All any excluded) which means losing a single maf member is worse for maf than town losing a town member. You cannot reveal your fellow mafia to town without discernible reason (e.g. the mafia in question was outed by a TI in which case you probably can out them unless you are confident they can shake off the sus.).
6:09 I love how the CL’s the one calling this out. Additionally, how her default expression makes her look legitimately offended.
Bro the vigi shooting the mayor triggers me lol
I was actively pushing and asking for roles and lynching evils and the following night i died to vigi shot. When asked, the vigi said they shot me bc i was too quiet. I cried.
I want to see a game where everyone plays like this
A game where everyone's a traitor...
@@glyphidbulkdetonator Traitor Town times 100!
@@glyphidbulkdetonator And when everyone's a traitor.. No-one is.
Just queue up in a classic lobby
@@keikoyamamoto4313 Valid
Hey now, I've won by claiming Blue Vigi as SK more times than not, so I'd say is valid since town will typically forget that you're actually evil until they realize they're stuck in a kingmaker position between who wins between you and another evil
question - what is blue vigi? i've seen the term used but i have no idea what it means
@@six-winged-juni Basically,a serial killer that focuses on killing evils.
0:20 doctor
0:31 framer
0:43 executioner
0:53 jailor
1:05 coven leader
1:13 amnesiac
1:20 Disguiser
1:26 tracker
1:33 medium
1:45 witch
1:56 spy
2:01 poisoner
2:06 Medusa
2:13 lookout
2:22 arsonist
2:26 hypnotist
2:35 serial killer *blue vigilante*
2:40 plaguebearer
2:42 blackmailer
2:51 mafioso
3:02 vampire hunter
3:11 vampire
3:15 trapper
3:20 guardian Angel
3:27 hex master
3:32 janitor
3:44 consort
3:53 psychic
4:01 necromancer
4:07 juggernaut
4:16 jester
4:20 sheriff
4:28 vigilante(rip mayor)
4:32 Crusader
4:35 bodyguard
4:38 godfather
4:47 transporter
4:57 pirate
5:03 veteran
5:06 potion master
5:15 ambusher
5:21 consigiliere
5:31 escort
5:41 retributionist
5:53 mayor
6:03 investigator
6:09 forger (imagine witch in coven expansion)
6:12 werewolf
Hero
But you’re forgetting about the best advice ever:
In Dracula’s Palace, if you’re vig, shoot the vampire hunter
BLAST
HE SAID THE LINE!! HE SAID THE LINEEEEEEE!!!!!!
I have another PM throw, The Medusa can Stone gaze any one that visits her…and the Potion Master can heal any Coven member.
As a poisoner, claim doc and, when the poisoned people die, claim you were witched away and couldn't heal them.
2:33 Me the guy who definitely didn't win as both juggernaut and serial killer with this.
Adagia salty at other players for 6 minutes straight.
Totally going to forge day 1 leavers as Witches now for lulz
Alternative for Crusader: "Always follow 'TP/LO on me' claims."
With how often mayor's and other evils claim survivor day 1, that werewolf one can be justified
3:20 this literally happened to me one game, my ga protected once N1 to confirm themselves and tried to get me lynched so they could become surv.
In the end maf killed me (prob cuz ga tbh) so they got their wish. But luckily for me pirate killed them the night the game ended so they lost as surv, while I won with town.
L SURVIVOR
thank you for talking about the psychics, everyone always fricks up so bad because they dont pay attention to the message in the role card (*at least* one of your targets will be good/evil)
I was pestilence once (No GA), got to the end and it was a 2v1 between me and a mafioso with a GA. For some reason, the entire server was v e r y upset with me when I attacked the GA and not the Mafioso because the GA could (and did) heal the Mafioso. No guys, I wouldn't let the GA become a survivor and win too because they could've healed the Mafioso and I would've lost, and I was right. So stop bullying me damnit
This was meant for CAA but it works well as an example of the ppl in classic rn. Except Amne. Amne claims d1 are usually trusted on there and aren't pushed until late game.
“remember town or I will execute you” remembers Survivor/exe all right you’re getting exed
One game I was a retributionist against 2 other evils and instead of being a kingmaker, I went to shoot myself with the vigilante, but it sadly doesn't work (for some reason, can't imagine why)
Edit: vigi was prob out of bullets
Hmm. That’s weird. Are you sure they weren’t forged? It’s been a couple years since then, so things may have been changed, but I did have a retri game where I shot myself with a vigi
@@Adagia aah that could be it since I dont remember the full game that happened, I will try to shoot myself with vigi next opportunity I get to help the town know if it is not forged
I'm dying laughing from this and the pirate section.
I could only imagine what town would think if a ret shot themselves with a vigi on purpose.
@@Adagia why did you shoot yourself may i ask?
@@llamanortena6600 was playing town traitor and couldn’t veticide. This was in the sweet spot in 2020 between when retri got reworked to stop rezzing people and when forger was reworked to forge roles. Before that rework, retri couldn’t be tt, so now that it could, people were overly suspicious of them. Rather than waste a vote on me in the tt hunt, I shot myself with the vigi. We might have needed to vote a medium or mayor or something during the day, idk it was a long time ago.
If the comment above is right though, you might not be able to do it anymore. Maybe y’all could help me test it later today
6:00 That’s legit what someone did in a game a while back, I got so mad. Was jailor, pressured him to reveal because he was one of only two not confirmed people in the game.
Bro same. It was a passive town so even tho I was escorts I took the lead since passive towns lose. In the end, the vfr was the mayor and he hated me even tho I had confirmation on who I rbed. Fun times
4:29 let's be honest, the mayor was gonna throw anyway, better to get them out now before they have the chance
Thanks Adagia for this helpful Town of Salem guide! I'll be sure to share it with all my friends so we will all improve at the game! /s
The psychic one makes me want to rip out someone's spinal cord.
That's happened too often.
Thanks, I'll be sure to tell my friend that this is the perfect way to play
Stop telling everyone my secrets Adagia! These strategies are too advanced for anyone to comprehend fully
LOL. The second I heard "IGNITE NIGHT ONE to check for any other Arsonists" I lost it XD This was epic!
4:28 Get yourself a girl who looks at you like this.
Had a game where the vigi shot the VIP after cl was dead n1. There wasn't a mayor so I guess they had to settle with something.
5:03 - Yep. I've done that one...claimed Jailor as Vet to try and bait evils. Surprisingly, it's pretty effective.
How to throw as coven leader in town traitor: control the town traitor into the medusa who is Stone gazing, congrats! You just threw..
Thanks for the advice! I’ll make sure to refer to this video every game from now on
=0 I just realized your own character is an inkling!! I think!! That's so cool >w
3:02 This makes me think how VH stakes some one, I have now come to the conclusion where he stabs his stake right through the stomach, that’s why the townie what’s to stop being confirmed as not vamp.
Adagia I love your videos, this one was very funny. Unluckily i wasnt notified by yt and here i am 4 days later
Bmer hits me the most. There were a few times before the new color coded messages that I would whisper somebody else and wonder how I knew and then accuse me immediately lmao
this is such a good guide, i'll try it next game
One time I literally claimed Arsonist, and told anyone to whisper any douse requests. Another person who turned out to be a second Arsonist helped me douse specific people and we got the whole town up in flames, and people forgot I was Arsonist.
Ahhh so this is the guide all these players have been watching especially mayors
How to throw as Survivor:
Claim day 1 Surv, guaranteed you're getting lynched the moment an NK shows up.
As escort block confirmed Ti or Tp claims they could have been bit by a vamp so you should make sure that they did not turn , preventing this situation is way more important then then the Ti getting useful info or the Tp protecting the mayor
The retributionist using vigi on themselves has me cackling lol
Funnily enough I won a ga game by voting up my target as there was no way for both of us to win.
how?
@@uhhhhrandompersoniguess5567 evil majority vs 1Ga(me) and a town role with no killing power (my target, they had 25 wins with the role already)
That GA one is somewhat a legitimate strategy, as they are technically a neutral role, and can easily be confirmed as survivor.
Except that it's still a gamethrow technically, because per the rules you must try to win as the faction you are currently as best you can
@@LegoLad659 No, gamethrowing is when you intentionally lose the game. If you know you'll be a confirmed survivor and have a better chance of winning, throwing your GA target under the bus is not technically gamethrowing.
@@missmorbid1439 Per the rules on their website:
"Intentionally losing the game or hurting your teams chances of winning(even if that team is just you) is gamethrowing."
The only way I can see that situation not falling under this banner is if you can somehow prove to me that your GA target is not your teammate. So please, enlighten me.
@@LegoLad659 Your GA target isn't your teammate. You can win, despite your target losing. If your target is a pirate, for example. Also, if your target is amne and remembers jester, your goals will now be opposed.
Intentionally becoming a survivor by getting your target killed and siding with the faction that's winning will increase your chances of winning, and is therefore not gamethrowing.
@@missmorbid1439 Okay, so the GA strategy is to get your target lynched, because it's easier to win as surv than as GA (GAs get targeted by enemy factions a lot). Good to know everyone is playing GA wrong.
Wait i legit DO ignite n1 as arso to check for other arsos... Also Necro reanimating pesti is an achievement just make sure your coven team mate stays home
vigi
shoot the mayor they could've been bitten by a vampire
wow! what a nice guide! cant wait to improve my gameplay like this!
Giving me robot chicken flashbacks...
"Order 66, huh? What were orders 1-65?"
"Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..."
Thank you for this guide Adagia! Now I know how to play the game properly!
this reminds me of a game where I was LO on jailor and the vigi visited him I posted my will and the vigi got upped and when they saw vigi they exe me and he got mad at me I think hes the one who made the mistake unless its a strategy to shoot the jailor
Vigi had better be shooting the vampire hunter
I mean, not healing every poisoned person is often the right move. A lot of times, they're just evil. Unless they actually claim their role, I tend to ignore poisoned claims
Me when someone threatened to hang me and someone said “They have a role they can’t claim right now” at the same time as I said “I’ll shoot you don’t threaten me” And everyone was like “Why did you claim?” And I was like “I just wanted to threaten to shoot someone 😂”
2 things I do that are as close to gamethrowing without gamethrowing
1. When I die as mafia I set as many random numbers as there are mafia remaining in my last will. They won’t be mafia and are designed to trick Town into voting their own Allie’s out, giving my mafia an advantage.
2. I will jail a revealed mayor. Although most people probably do this. I like to jail D1 mayor reveals so that they aren’t immediately dead by D2 and reveal to them who I am
Yesterday i got vigi and let my friend vote who i should shoot and they chose the psychic claim (i ended up dying the same night from something else)
i always do the framer one but do 3 random non mafia and all the time i find out those 3 randos were netruals
Jester: fake claim psychic and accidentally confirm yourself and never get hung all game
there is a way to throw as survivor. start trash talking everyone
I'm not saying I've done that as Blackmailer, but I might be saying I've done that as blackmailer
Oh boy i cant wait to do all of these
the forger one... I never not do that. it's too funny.
3:15 *Buffy the Vampire Slayer would like to know your location.*
That Arsonist strat is based, though.
3:12
You have forsaken us all
2:34 Pardoned by a vote of-
Hold on, this would require all of the following:
-A Mayor exists
-The Mayor has revealed
-Nobody has left the game yet (which in and of itself makes the situation implausible)
-Nobody has died in any way yet
-Every player in the lobby is content with leaving you alive.
-Yet, adding onto that previous point, enough players previously found you suspicious to be able to vote you up.
-Nobody has abstained on their vote (again, this alone makes the scenario implausible)
Come on, if you're gonna make these scenarios, at least make them realistic! Like, make the Pirate block the Jailor because the "Survivor" (the only real claim) is about to be executed but the Escort disagreed so she was gonna roleblock him anyway! Come on!
(/j)
Also, at 4:31, it would've been funny if you had the Godfather's secondary method right afterwards being "No need to coordinate; the Mafioso will be on the Mayor"
2:39 not gonna lie, I don't get why this one is a bad one, I won a game like that, the fact you can gain the info of who visited who if they have the plague is great to fake claim Tracker, I was a pain in the ass of maf cause I knew who they were visiting, and that made me "confirm" to Town
It's because, usually, when PB becomes Pest, the first people to be voted are Tracker claims since they share invest results, and, as you said, PB can reasonably fake tracker
@@connorharwell9510 Fair enough
@@guilhermedom2228 To be fair, I do believe that Tracker is a reasonable fake claim, but it's a risky one. Unlike usual, you don't want to infect everyone quickly. The best case scenario, 4 people are left, with two infected townies, you, and an uninfected, outed evil. They get voted, and you become pestilence immediately. Then, you can kill one of them. Basically, tracker is a surprise Pest claim, which is risky because you can't always control when you become pestilence.
Plus, if maf call you out for having defense, even if you have the perfect tracker claim, town is gonna keep in mind that you're possibly PB.
Essentially, I don't really think it's throwing, but it's almost never the best fake claim for you. If you wanna use the info you get as PB, though it might be more difficult, it's usually safer to claim LO, or, if you're feeling spicy, arsonist, though that would require a delicate balance itself
I can't haha, too many things that made sense, and that is now the nature of the game 😅
i got my only wins on pb by claiming tracker it works to well and you can really convince town to hang the other evils that could possibly kill you
I accidentally threw by sending a message meant for mafia chat and NOBODY NOTICED. Mind you: THIS WAS RANKED. I was telling my mafioso to write a joke about a townie that got lynched, but sent it during the day accidentally. (I was godfather, we won without a single mafia or the witch dying.)
one time i just shot another vigilante claim because i felt it didnt fit. they were mafia.
I had great game in VIP a few weeks ago. As CL I controlled a random person into medusa, but medusa was like #8 and I was #7 so I misclicked and the person I found was ofc the vigilante :) Shot myself N1, gj.
'the cl died to the vigi N1'
ok but imagine how many confused people there were
Im a bad player but i never know when to self heal, but I realise i seem to usually die after blocking a maf kill and confirming im for sure doctor, so maybe i need to just take that gamble
Yeah... it's not really possible to throw as survivor.
I guess you could claim something extremely evil and dangerous and demand to be hanged/executed immediately?
"As a survivor publicly claim arsonist day 1, then when jailed n2, claim you lied and you're actually SK, then demand the jailer exe you so they don't die."
Maybe that would count? XD
Nice to hear the rap tune again. Haven't heard that in years
Worst throws I've ever seen is when a guy claimed to be a member of the mafia and started ratting his team out. However, that wasn't the real case as he was actually just making the town kill each other. I was mayor when he got me killed and it was during the era where disguiser hides as the exact roll. Literally everyone thought he was telling the truth until the mafia won
So many of the people I play with follow this guide.
5:42 so you are saying that when worst comes to worst, I can take the honorable way out?
clearly this is a pro tip guide
The executioner one was funny because of how feasible it was.
3:13 I’ve never played town of Salem can someone please tell me why not to do this?
Because Vampire Hunters can read your chat.
@@JustAChillWolf thanks
That evil laugh for vigilante cracked me up! Also, TIL there's a different message for PM vs Doc curing poison!
But why? ):
Nice, if anyone complains about me claiming jailor tp/lo as vet and then alerting I can now show them this video
Funny Framer Throw is how I framer meta... Mafia are 6 4 and 12 (really they are 12 9 and 15) Sell out one of my normal mafia and frame one of my targets that way if I die n1 Mafia has a 1 in 3 chance of being found... bonus effect is that stupid vigi's would shoot if the 12 was found as mafia one of the other townies... if not both turning it into a massive gain for mafia... imagine trading 2 mafia's for 4 townies...
I shall try all of these today!
I was vampire but there’s more context to this : they died I’m just her fake claiming that I’m going to be away until day seven dude literally bites me gets killed vamp chat I say Bruh but they left so I just left pretty good game ngl
Lol the jester throw just happened in my last game an hour ago. This player claimed jester to me when I was jailor, but their jest tactic was to push the medium claim and actually got them lynched. So I was like, nah you got a town killed, so that's literally guilty. 😡 I thought most jailors would spare the jester.
Bro one time i was amne i public claimed then 2 nights later
a DIFFERENT AMNE REMEMBERED PB AND DIED THE SAME NIGHT (it shows them as amne even tho they remembered smth but it says the amne remember message still)
fr though, the guardian angel strat shouldn't be considered gamethrowing since you're still likely winning any way. I know the trial mods punish it as such but if you just keep quiet about it while you and town are hanging your target I feel like you can just claim you didn't push it and get away with it
I now really want to reveal as my last words
Here's the jailor throw. ALWAYS exe the doc who whispered crus D1 and fake claimed jailor, successfully baiting an evil. If you're the jailor who did this to me, disrespectfully stop making decisions.
4:30 Unless Mayor is TT or TT Vig LOL
Btw if the game is going slow as forger you can foge some one to be Vh works on confirmed Town like mayor towm will beleave it was a Vh 110% of the time
I admit I am guilty of a specific one of these just for wanting the achievement associated with it....
I actually get a guardian angel who voted his target to win with the other team...
AND I WAS ON THE TARGET'S TEAM :-(