Current Oneness Pentecostal here…. I appreciate Dr. Young’s perspective on Oneness…. He understands what we believe and correctly and astutely described how Oneness theology needs a listen. He listened and and can correctly differentiate and correlate between brothers and sisters of Pentecostal faith
Love Dr Yong he has helped me in different ways. I deal with disability and justice issues in my family though we experience the healings and miracles of the Lord. And come from a similar space as the Dr. !!! I though also am in more Reformed leaning Evangelical spaces now. I and my youngest son have a cleft lip and palate. And one of my sons deals with autism. I was waiting for a minute for this interview you guys were doing !!! I believe and pray this will touch many. And possibly some or many will read his materials.
I grew up in Jesus name only when not at the Assembly of God or Church of God or Prophecy. My family was in the Pentecostal movement and many still our for the last 120 plus years. Feel yah. I still hold to Jesus name but not as salvational.
Wisdom is based on observation and it's not exclusive of any religion. Similar concepts are shared by the different confessions of faith but practiced in a higher degree by some of them. There was a great Bible teacher of chinese descent who was a true blessing for the body of Christ. His name was Watchman Nee. He started the local church movement in China and was a true apostol of the Lord that was persecuted and imprisoned, spending the last twenty years of his life in prison. In a similar way, Dr. Amos is combining the deposit that God has placed in his heart with his solid academic prepartion and family background, thus building bridges with different cultures and bringing a different perspective to our first world view of the Christian experience.
Yes , the most important thing is how each of us live out our faith , and not our dénomination or our favorite preacher .But in saying this I don't deny the need for correct doctrine and discernement ....
In case anyone is wondering if this is the author you want to learn from. He helped edit a book called Can White People Be Saved?: Triangulating Race, Theology, and Mission. That's right he is now mixing CRT worldly ideology into his teachings.
Hmmm, I actually think we as evangelical Christians have idolized the "experience." I've had a horrible time trying to get my brothers and sisters to get out of the "formula" of emotionalism and anti intellectualism.
I think there's a tendency on either side to idolize either experience or academics. Obviously, neither are bad. It's just the nature of Christians, depending on their dispositions, to gravitate too extremely towards one side or the other. If only there were more of a meeting in the middle. Gordon D. Fee was a great example.
@@d.torrent1822 I disagree, I think quite often things like this are pitted against each other when they should not be. . Christians should pursue as deep an experience with the Lord as possible, whilst also using their brain as much as possible in thinking and studying about god. And the both of these should inform each other. . Talking about a middle way sounds as if you are saying you should do both half-heartedly, which I think is incorrect. . But Christians should also, of course, steer as far as possible away from making either thing a idol.
@@d.torrent1822 Sure. What you seemed to be saying (and this is a very popular view, so I don't blame you for holding it); is that having more "experience" means you are less "academic", and being more "academic" means you have less "experience". This would mean you need a "balance" which is halfway between the two. I disagree with this premise. Experience does not take away from intellectual thought, and intellectual thought does not take away from experience. In fact, they both enhance one another. With intellectual thought you understand more of what you are experiencing; and with experience you have a better idea of how what you are studying works practically. A Christian should be as extreme as possible towards a having a correct intellectual grounding about the Lord, whilst also being as extreme as possible towards having an intense experience with the Lord. However, as some of the comments here also mentioned it being an idol, I will mention that neither should be idolised. But nevertheless, it is possible to have both a strong intellectual rigor and strong spiritual experiences without worshipping either. Tl;Dr, I don't like the language of "extremes", "sides" and "balance" because it assumes that experience and academic rigor are mutually exclusive, and they are not.
Hey you're going to have a shock in heaven , where I'm sure there will not only be 'American Pentecostalists ' but a great crowd from all the nations and dénominations !!!!
@@simonallchin7436 maybe, but not the denominator, just the doctrine..they are all lacking one thing, repentence so you have to think of that...if those group don't repent, and believe me, that isn't high on their list, you won't see them there.
@@PSUJerseyGirl I understand why you might think that in some spaces but ask your self our you without sin ? We as a movement in our history is not perfect by no means Lol. I grew up as with Josh on the podcast and such in circles of this space. Note non Pentecostal's think the same way about us by the way on some levels Lol. I am not laughing at you note but showing emotions to not show judging or throwing stones.
@@timothyross8985 There is a poor representation all around. I grew up Pentecostal, got suckered hyper charismatic, then thought Justin Peters was the godfather of the bible. Not one denomination was scripture based, they all add-libbed. I am still for the gifts, but not man doctrine. I consider myself non-denominational really.
Underrated episode. ❤
Current Oneness Pentecostal here…. I appreciate Dr. Young’s perspective on Oneness…. He understands what we believe and correctly and astutely described how Oneness theology needs a listen. He listened and and can correctly differentiate and correlate between brothers and sisters of Pentecostal faith
I have been waiting for a long while for this interview! Glad yall can connect, thank you Brother Josh for bringing him your show.
just happen to found this channel. Very good indeed. I also have similar channel but in Indonesia and your channel can be my role model :) God bless!
Love Dr Yong he has helped me in different ways. I deal with disability and justice issues in my family though we experience the healings and miracles of the Lord. And come from a similar space as the Dr. !!! I though also am in more Reformed leaning Evangelical spaces now. I and my youngest son have a cleft lip and palate. And one of my sons deals with autism. I was waiting for a minute for this interview you guys were doing !!! I believe and pray this will touch many. And possibly some or many will read his materials.
Former Oneness Pentecostal here 🙂...really appreciate Dr Young’s perspective.
I grew up in Jesus name only when not at the Assembly of God or Church of God or Prophecy. My family was in the Pentecostal movement and many still our for the last 120 plus years. Feel yah. I still hold to Jesus name but not as salvational.
Thank you very much, Mr. Lewis and Dr. Yong. A Jesus' hug from Brazil.
Wisdom is based on observation and it's not exclusive of any religion. Similar concepts are shared by the different confessions of faith but practiced in a higher degree by some of them. There was a great Bible teacher of chinese descent who was a true blessing for the body of Christ. His name was Watchman Nee. He started the local church movement in China and was a true apostol of the Lord that was persecuted and imprisoned, spending the last twenty years of his life in prison. In a similar way, Dr. Amos is combining the deposit that God has placed in his heart with his solid academic prepartion and family background, thus building bridges with different cultures and bringing a different perspective to our first world view of the Christian experience.
You should make this into a series and interview baptists, presbyterians, lutherans, etc.
This was a great interview.
Yes , the most important thing is how each of us live out our faith , and not our dénomination or our favorite preacher .But in saying this I don't deny the need for correct doctrine and discernement ....
In case anyone is wondering if this is the author you want to learn from. He helped edit a book called Can White People Be Saved?: Triangulating Race, Theology, and Mission. That's right he is now mixing CRT worldly ideology into his teachings.
Can't wait for N T Wright!
Thank you.
Hmmm, I actually think we as evangelical Christians have idolized the "experience." I've had a horrible time trying to get my brothers and sisters to get out of the "formula" of emotionalism and anti intellectualism.
That’s been my experience to Tucker.
I think there's a tendency on either side to idolize either experience or academics. Obviously, neither are bad. It's just the nature of Christians, depending on their dispositions, to gravitate too extremely towards one side or the other. If only there were more of a meeting in the middle. Gordon D. Fee was a great example.
@@d.torrent1822
I disagree, I think quite often things like this are pitted against each other when they should not be.
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Christians should pursue as deep an experience with the Lord as possible, whilst also using their brain as much as possible in thinking and studying about god.
And the both of these should inform each other.
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Talking about a middle way sounds as if you are saying you should do both half-heartedly, which I think is incorrect.
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But Christians should also, of course, steer as far as possible away from making either thing a idol.
@@IamGrimalkin I'm sorry, it's hard for me to follow what you're saying. Could you please elaborate?
@@d.torrent1822
Sure.
What you seemed to be saying (and this is a very popular view, so I don't blame you for holding it); is that having more "experience" means you are less "academic", and being more "academic" means you have less "experience".
This would mean you need a "balance" which is halfway between the two.
I disagree with this premise. Experience does not take away from intellectual thought, and intellectual thought does not take away from experience.
In fact, they both enhance one another.
With intellectual thought you understand more of what you are experiencing; and with experience you have a better idea of how what you are studying works practically.
A Christian should be as extreme as possible towards a having a correct intellectual grounding about the Lord, whilst also being as extreme as possible towards having an intense experience with the Lord.
However, as some of the comments here also mentioned it being an idol, I will mention that neither should be idolised.
But nevertheless, it is possible to have both a strong intellectual rigor and strong spiritual experiences without worshipping either.
Tl;Dr, I don't like the language of "extremes", "sides" and "balance" because it assumes that experience and academic rigor are mutually exclusive, and they are not.
First! Which means I'm last :( lol
I am Pentecostal, but against hyper charismatics, Calvinists, and American evangelicals. Those 3 groups have ruined the view of American Christianity.
Hey you're going to have a shock in heaven , where I'm sure there will not only be 'American Pentecostalists '
but a great crowd from all the nations and dénominations !!!!
@@simonallchin7436 maybe, but not the denominator, just the doctrine..they are all lacking one thing, repentence so you have to think of that...if those group don't repent, and believe me, that isn't high on their list, you won't see them there.
@@PSUJerseyGirl I understand why you might think that in some spaces but ask your self our you without sin ? We as a movement in our history is not perfect by no means Lol. I grew up as with Josh on the podcast and such in circles of this space. Note non Pentecostal's think the same way about us by the way on some levels Lol. I am not laughing at you note but showing emotions to not show judging or throwing stones.
@@timothyross8985 There is a poor representation all around. I grew up Pentecostal, got suckered hyper charismatic, then thought Justin Peters was the godfather of the bible. Not one denomination was scripture based, they all add-libbed. I am still for the gifts, but not man doctrine. I consider myself non-denominational really.
Was that wokeness virtue-signaling I heard from, Josh? 🙁