I have seen all types of players. I don't mind if you play competitive or casual, you play what you want. What bothers me is when they play with no sleeves.
That is just awful. I once saw a kid at my locals playing a DM deck, every single card unsleeved. Including secret circle, secert navigation, and apprentice illusion. My friend who plays DM and myself wanted to say somthing so badly.
Kevin Orth I love pulling out a Deck that doesn't even really use an Archetype and winning with it with an amazing combo and then they quit online or pick up their cards and leave the shop.
Lol I was versing zoo decks with melos yeah I brought rope to the gun fight. Tie them up while locking the board. Just to see people faces melt Ill throw commons in, that shit destroys high competitors for some reason it just makes em rage. and now I got my feels out the match 😁
I'm incredibly casual with this game nowadays due to being extremely busy with school. I gotta say I really appreciate the fact that this game releases structure/starter decks every so often. There used to be a time in which I might have actually built decks from complete scratch but nowadays I pretty much just get whatever the latest structure/starter deck is and play with a group of equally-casual friends. It's kinda weird because the game has kind of become like a board game for us. As long as my friends know how to actually play the game, they can just come over and choose from a selection of decks or hell, bring their own. There is enough variety there. It's our way of keeping in touch with the game even if it's only juuuuust a little.
As a meta player I feel the same. What I do is because of card shop is very flexible with tournaments, there is a friday local's, a saturday mid day locals and a sunday morning locals. SO I have 3 days to pick and I can normally show up at one once a week for the most part and play\hang out. So even if life is busy or I havea bunch of plans I can normally still keep in touch with the game along with sadly the occasional regional or YCS I can go to maybe every 6 monthes or so.
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Hello Team APS. Thank you for the video. I play Yu-Gi-Oh off and on I've never been competitive and I pretty much play the format before Link summoning does that make me a bad player. Please if you can I would like a message back. Thanks again for the video and "Get your game on"
People calling others scrubs is stupid when everyone was one at some point. A true scrub is someone who never improves at the game and always has excuses to why they lost. They never say they lost because they played poorly or have a mediocre deck build. An honest casual player who wants to improve at the game who doesn't spew out lame excuses and acknowledges their mistakes isn't a scrub. Playing an inferior deck doesn't make you a scrub, it's your choice if you want to try something different. You'll generally have to play meta if you want to maximize your winning chance.
Yugioh needs a format for the casuals, like EDH in MTG, it started as a casual format and now is the most played format because you don't need to play the most expensive deck or the newest deck in the meta. I have decks that are 3 or 4 years old and they still work perfectly fine.
As a meta player I want that. I mean I like playing altergeist in the meta and I top 64 at with satellarknights back in the day but if there could be a banlist and an event for less meta decks would be cool. Like to play madolche again in a tournament or one of my decks that fell off.
Just because my 1196 card blue eyes dark magician burning abyss lightsworn true draco true king domain monarch odd-eyes pepe exodia gouki hand knightmare red-eyes deck isnt legal doesnt mean im bad
Thank you so much for this I see people trash on casual players like me because I want to play weather painters or Heavy Metal Raiders but I'm just trying to enjoy myself
Iammullet FINALLY someone else who likes weathery (I like the original name better) I play meta decks sometimes, but weathery, like other things, fit my MO for deckbuilding. low level cutesy monsters that can piss off my opponent xD.
Iammullet People have literally cussed me out for beating them with "Casual Trash" like my King Arthur/Utopia Warrior Xyz Deck I made because they couldn't counter Number 86: Rhognomyniad and said theres no way my Deck built to get this thing out first turn could get it out first turn and beat them twice in a row.
XYZ stacking decks have existed for years tho, and Rhognomyniad turbo is really easy to pull off...did people already forget about Kaijus because of Spheremode?
Most competitive players I met were sweaty tryhards, that only cared about wins and became furious, when something didn’t go their way. They regularly threw cards around, flipped tables or even sometimes assaulted other players. Meanwhile, casual players were some of the chillest people I ever met. Most told me they just played for fun, some cared for wins, others didn’t.
I don’t even play at locals and i have decks like Mekk-Invoked, Darklord, Elementsabers, Odd-Eyes, Subterrors etc with all the meta extra deck cards and hand traps(besides ghost belle). I just like collecting.
how do you fell about scrambled eggs that card yusei used in a video i think by dezff i could be vary wrong about that. he or someone said that the card is for 1% of the yugioh community the collectors/players/anime Fans i want to know your opinion on this because you seem to be a collector/player and maybe a fan of the anime ?
SMOSHOO I do like the anime, I understand people weren’t excited about it being released in a core set, and more of the player base thought it should have been printed in a different set. Eventually it had to be printed and I feel like no matter where it showed up people would be upset. I like the card though. The artwork is definitely adorable and the name is unique. It was just released too far away from its prime to be considered in all but the most casual decks.
Same. I currently have World Chalice with a Saryuja and a few of the Knightmare cards, along with a Firewall Dragon I'm borrowing from a friend. Then I have an Invoked Elementsaber deck with the Invoked core and Borreload.
I'm definitely more of a casual/collector. I'm actually sorting through my cards right now. Well I've been working on it off and on for the past three days. Cards....cards everywhere.
Thanks a lot, Allyne. It seems like a really good tool, especially if monitoring value is a concern for you. However, I was hoping more for tips on keeping my physical cards in good order and then keeping a personal digital record independent of any external control. I'll look into it though, thank you.
I know I'm late but something hilarious happened. So I was dueling my brother with my yugi deck I made. My brother summoned this 6000 atk monster and attacked me and I had freaking kuriboh in my hand, he was mad. This proves that kuriboh is the best hand trap
Miguel Ramos ooh very nice move with kuriboh then! I’m only a casual player myself. I just got back into yugioh and decided dark magician was going to be my first deck. Cyber dragon and red eyes next for me 🙌
I definitely consider myself a casual. I like playing decks that I think are cool/fun like DM and Blue Eyes. But I also like winning so I do stay current on the meta as well!
Great video! I’ve been a proud casual player since I first played. It’s a great way to learn if you want to get competitive by watching what decks are being played & *how* to actually play that deck with correct card combos. Showing my age here; I beat down this competitive player with a Macro-Monarch deck (anti-meta of it’s day). He was so ott with a LS deck (new at the time), that he got really agro & nearly chucked his cards. It’s a case of if you aren’t mentally prepared to take a loss, you’d better not enter.
I fall under that category where I love the game and playing I just don't want to have to play a deck just to be competitive. To me that takes the fun out building and optimising a deck. But in the end just play what you wanna play and have fun. Win or lose I'll always love the game.
The reason these myths come up is there more than just casual vs competitive. There's many different types of casuals. The one's everyone complain about are the one's with 54 one of's in a deck who don't want to get better at the game (and they don't go the locals generally, just "scrub school", and if you know any legit strategy or deck building techniques you're try-harding). Then there's the ones brewing the best anti-meta krawler deck in the world and are better than some competitive players. Or there's the ones who just keep playing they're favorite (maybe out of date) deck but it's still a legit deck unlike the first category I mentioned.
Then there are those like me who are more of a mix of those. XD I personally play more casual but I have a competitive attitude when it comes to losing, mostly if I lose a lot.
Very good points here. I tried to lump everything into one video, but you're definitely right that there is a range within the casual (and community, for that matter) communities.
I once literally slapped together a shockingly good Tribute-based Deck from literal scrap cards I had laying around when I forgot my deck one day. It was so good I refined it and made it one of my regulars, so don't knock the Highlander format, because it conformed to that just fine and was still functional
The fighting game analogy is really fitting. No one thinks less of people who play Street Fighter with their friends instead of entering FGC events -- so why does this happen with YGO?
Because some competitive players get salty when they loose to casual decks or act like they are wasting their time against them because they are "testing".
I think also something that differs Street Fighter (or FGC at large) and TCG like Yugioh with let's take sports is that in sports you can't just walk down (take Basketball as an example) onto the court and play in a pro game. With FGC and TCG you can sign up for any tournament and just join and play no matter if your a pro or a casual player (though I know invitationals don't count in my argument) you can still play no matter what. Also after regionals or tournaments, people will go home and just play Yu-gi-oh casually or go to their local shop, so everyone, in reality, is a scrub.
To be fair, even for Street Fighter, there are assholes that look down on casual players. The difference is that Street Fighters has a much wider audience to play with. Yugioh now is a game played by a small few. So causal players are now super rare and the elite crowd are also a part of a group of people who are one of the few Yugioh players. So the group that should be niche in other games is the largest group in Yugioh. And even then, there is also the fact that they are the ones keeping the game alive. Street Fighter, while it has elites, would survive if these elite players disappeared. Yugioh, not so much. And finally, it's just that because the game is so niche, the douches just HAVE to gather together...
I'm definitely one who likes to bling out his deck. A couple months ago, I finished doing that for my Dark Magician deck, and will soon be working on doing it for my Blue-Eyes Chaos MAX deck
I've been into Yugioh since 2002, nearly 2 decades and only ever been to 1 Large tournament in 2009... and I didn't like it very much, the atmosphere was way too serious, I prefer playing at locals where you actually have a sense of community and hang out with players you know, and even meet new players that visit locals ocasionally. it's this kind of friendly interaction that I enjoy and look forward to each month. ^_^ I'm only a casual player, but I try to stay up to date with the latest products, heck... I still have decks cores that were big in 2008 in my collection. =3 Besides, my opinion on the whole bias about 'Casual players' being cheapscates or sucking, is bs. =/ Someone could be a millionaire and have EVERY card ever made and still suck at the game, and on the flip side, someone could dual with altered structure dec, practiced with it continuously and beat any META deck with it. becasue they know their deck inside and out, every combo and ever play. I don't see this game as needing to spend tons of money in order to win, luck is major part of the game, but so is SKILL, to me, that's the important thing, the skill of the player, they able to make the best of bad situations in a duel and think there way out of a tight spot and turn things around. ^_^
I know this video is 2 years old, but I'd like to state an opinion. I as a casual player enjoy taking a homebrew deck and seeing what it can do. I do this with both YGO and MTG. I don't really care if I win or lose, I just wanna have fun playing I'm not on that level, but some casual players simply get so good at the combos in their homebrew deck the competitive players are simply surprised or do not know where to stop the combo
I'm a casual player, and I went to play some games with competitive players at my locals for the first time. People would be surprised to realize how many competitive players don't know how to play this game/lie to cheat you out of wins.
I came back to yugioh casually and play with old school stuff and with my friends in cube draft. Happened to me with magic too. When you have less time, it’s better to pick a format you enjoy that you dont have to keep up with
When I played, my main deck was an a**holey Remove From Play [i'm old school in terms lol] Deck that had an added bonus of running the Attack Lockdown of Gravekeeper's Servant & Macro Cosmos. But I've also ran my own take on an Exodia Deck, as well as Lightlords [Japanese name for Lightsworn], started getting into Gemknights. I stopped around 2009 when I graduated College, now I occasionally collect.
Some casual friends and I spend a lot on this game but mostly on sealed. And because no one really buys super expensive singles no one has hand traps like ghost ogre, ash blossom, or ghost bell and I think the games a lot more fun because of that. There's 3 blue eyes decks, 1 ancient gear, 1 Dino, 1 Grave Keepers, 1 Noble Knight, 1 Lair of Darkness, and a lot of other fun stuff. And as far as Pot of Desires goes I'm the only one who runs it and I run as many copies of it that I own(2). I think I have won every single time I have used it in a duel. Its pretty damn good.
Not to spoil the mood, but how is gravekeepers fun? I will give you everything else though, also desires is a 3 dollar card so should not be too much to a casual player.
Lair of Darkness vs Gravekeepers are pretty fun matches. Desires came in those mega tins and pretty much everyone bought at least one and some people bought 2. So everyone has 1-2 copies of it but I'm the only one that actually runs it.
Me and my friends have recently gotten back into Yu-Gi-Oh, but we don't want to do competitive play bc we really enjoy the older formats that are pre link summoning.
@@dylanshadowstar9779 are you a casual duelist? If so how many cards do you run in your decks or deck bulits? Thank you in advance if you can answer me😊
I went to my first ever local event a few weeks ago and won first place with herald of perfection, it felt incredible going againdt some of the top tier meta and win with such a Rogue deck
I still use my Gustos. They’re fun and there’s no other deck the works similar. I sometimes end up making decks solely on the Archetype's artwork or backstory.
thank you for making these videos! these kind of videos are important, as a sort of understanding between both comp and casual players is whats needed to help make this community more enjoyable and easy to access for new players :D
I genuinely pity competitive players because they are incapable of enjoying themselves unless they win. That must be such a sad way to live, relying on causing another human being humiliation just to make yourself feel better lol
Good video Paul, unfortunately their will always be elitist and scumbag players(players who cheat or abuse the rules) in the game. And the over competitive group will always be infested with those players. Another thing i would add is most of casual players like you said can't always afford the over powered cards of a format and i would ague if Konami printed common versions in every set of power cards like evenly matched or ash blossom then even the casuals could keep up with an optimized tear 2 deck. I've seen time and time again on YGOPRO replay channels where a casual player with a fully optimized tier 2 deck wrecks a tier 1 deck. In short I think the only reason their is a divide between the Casual and the Competitive is money and elitism. Especially the elitist side of things because even if i win they take the fun out of the game with the whining and if i lose they gloat and fling insults so its not surprising why their is a divide. If their is anything that this game needs improvement on its the elitist attitudes.
Very good points here. I for one am in favor of Konami printing powerful cards at more accessible rarities to level the accessibility and even the playing field. To be fair, there are elitists on both ends of the spectrum. A common complaint casual players will leverage against competitive players is that they are just sheep or followers for only playing the best decks and lacking originality. This very mindset is elitist in its own way, though. It still implies that you have to play the game a certain way and to not do so is inferior or wrong in some sense.
This video I completely agree and here are my thoughts. #1 Not everyone wanted to spend a lot of money on cards they don't like (even if it is really strong or really meta relevant). Some others want to spend their money on cards that can improve their favorite decks(yeah not only meta decks get to be upgraded) #2 Yeah they just don't build good decks. They build better ones. Most of the time casual players build rogue deck to compete with the tier 1 meta and that just makes them better than net decking meta decks. #3 Casual players follow the game more than everybody does. Not all casual players are newbies. Some of them are retired player(from competitive scene) and just decided to play casually, but still updated with the current ins and outs of the game, new sets, new rules etc. #4 Not all Casual players are new into the game. Most of them are experienced players who just wanted to enjoy the game and playing decks that not restrict them to 2 or 3 choices. These experienced players are even better with card rules, chain building and even unconventional or out of date combos. Their knowledge pool for the game is sometimes better than the competitive players. Watch worlds 2018 and see how competitive players misplay etc., which are fairly common even with casual players, that doesn't mean casual players sucks playing the game than competitive players. #5 Most casual players says "we play for fun" doesnt mean they don't wanna win. What's the point of building a really amazing rogue deck if they don't win with it? So, they build this "out of radar" deck and enters local tournaments and tries to win games with it( and yes the competitive player spirit is there but playing rogue makes them stereotyped into casual players)
I try and keep up with the game but simply don't have the time or money as I once did as I have a family to provide for. As Paul said, my priorities are different from others. Family first, bills second then Yu-Gi-Oh is further down the list
I’m a current casual player and working on getting into the competitive scene. The price of some of the cards I want to make what I feel is the optimal build is holding me back. But I’ve never had any of these things hold me back. I have taken my current build of chaos max turbo against some of the competitive players a coworker knows and they’ve helped a lot with building and pulling off the combos. I’ve even let them play the deck and have given suggestions on tech cards to make it better. It’s nice to have someone like you show some love to the casual players
I'd totally play a Dark Magician deck whether it's meta or not. I just love mages and that has been one of my favorite characters since I was a kid watching the original show.
I play casual myself because of what happened to my trading card shop back in 2015. Back then we played casually already but everyone went there to play have fun. Until one day 2 regular duelists came in with their pricey pro decks at the time. They beat everyone pretty much all the time turn 1 or 2. Before long everyone got sick of playing with them and to teach them a lesson we started to play troll lockdown decks. It was about all that could be done anyway. However, when we saw these decks in action we realize we won every time with them~ This opened a sort of pandora's box if you will. Now everyone was doing this and before long it became just games of coin toss. Whoever won that won the game most of the time. Players also got more toxic as they started to play to win. Within a year of that, my friend who ran the card shop was forced to close simply because no one wanted to play Yugioh anymore over there. After all who wants to play a game where no one can make a move? XD Everyone in my area now shuns competitive and try hard players. If you play to win at any cost, even at the cost of the other player making any move at all, then go play solitaire. Not to say you shouldn't play to win. Just... Ya know XD
Great video. As a casual player I totally agree. Ive taken Rouge decks to Regionals and played at the top tables, and before time rules, drew a heavy crowd(cool part). But the top tables can kill the enjoyment of yugioh. Many players have huge egos, high saltiness levels, and limp wristed hand shakes. Chances are most players started playing yugioh vs casual players because they understand it is about the fun, and many players leave because competitve yugioh players are often not much fun.
Man as a competitive fighting game player that analogy was so good, I know so many people who follow the tournaments but dont really play or only play casually. They tend to know whats good ect but dont fully understand the exact reasons why, im a casual yugioh player but I do drop the game from time to time but when im playing I know whats in the meta/whats good cards but I dont fully understand why everything is good or how it works
I dont play competitive because the concept of it is ridiculous to me, casual you can play literally anything you want and competitive you HAVE to run a very specific deck or else its pointless to even try, at what point is that fun?
This is an incredible video. The concept applies to all games, not just Yu-Gi-Oh. Thank you for putting this out there. Players should be able to enjoy the game in a way that makes them happy without being scrutinized by elitists.
i'm a super casual player. i only use one deck, and i very rarely play outside of letting my boyfriend test decks on me. yet, every time i played at my local's tournaments, i win all of them. i only came second place once, and that was because of a janky system where you got extra points for promoting the store which i didnt know about, so i only ended up in second because the other person got unfair points. the myth that casual players are bad is ridiculous
It's possible to spend an awful lot on Yu-Gi-Oh! even if you play casually. I have a bad habit of purchasing full sets of archetypes, like all Lunalight, or all Pendulum Magicians, or all D/D (wish we'd get a link card for them, though). I like Blue Eyes.
I'm a casual player myself, playing either Evol-tile/suar/zar or Zombies, both I can say I spent about 50$ on min the Zombie Deck is slowly costing me an arm and a leg (but then again I also play Warhamer AoS & 40k) :P (and yet I can't track down 3 copies of Doomkaiser Dragon). But at the end of the day all it is really is how people like to enjoy the game.
This video sums me up really, since day 1 i've been in and out of the game. I'm still optimizing the chaos zone necroface build, ever since the original chaos builds in the old days, ive continued to mess with it. It's slowly changed from chaos sorcerer to zombies to a macro helios build to a DD necroface. I'm 100% one of the people that would love to see 3-5 cards unbanned or unrestricted. Playing with friends and lax rules it's got some flex for sure, but would need more support to be close to meta at all lol
Necroz will always be bad, it has been from the start and can never be better because its all about bric- I mean drawing the cards you need for rituals
It should be noted that the winner of the National Championship for Australia won with a deck you can easily build for less than $30 (it just used 3 structure decks).
One accusation that has been leveled at me, as a casual player, is that I ask a LOT of questions about whether or not a card can be a good substitute for a more expensive, meta card and whatnot, and that - as a result - I don't think for myself and determine what I want in the game. That isn't true, at all; I feel like people like me, who are casual players and question the more competitive players about card interactions and substitutes and whatnot a lot, are - as you said - either trying to min-max their deck's potential to its fullest, or are trying to choose the best options out of a budget pool, and while casual players are more of the experimenters, tournament players are more of the rules lawyers of the game, and would have a deeper and more attuned knowledge on card interactions and substitutes than the player asking them might have. Does that make them bad players? No, they're just asking "I know what I want to do with this deck, but I don't know the best way to accomplish that task; with your superior knowledge of how cards interact and the nuances of the rulings for these cards, what would you do in my position?" Anyway, this is a really good analysis of the false claims against casual players. It really resonates with me, because I feel it embodies what I go through, when playing the game; I love taking niche, "bad" decks, and pushing them to their maximum potential with what I can get a hold of - something that I was inspired to do, after I got complimented by a Chaos Yata duelist for stalling them for so long with a crappy feline flip/bounce deck. I've spent thousands of dollars on cards to maximize the potential of my decks, and while I've been forcing myself to get more into the meta decks (like Gouki Extra Link), it's not as fun as, say... playing a Moja beatdown/Link deck at its best.
I don't play competitively at all, but I really enjoy collecting the cards and I like playing ultra-casual with my friends, so I usually pick up a box of whatever new thing when it comes out.
I'm a casual yugioh player and spectator. I haven't touched the game since late middle school, early high school and I'm 29 years old now. I spent ~120 on a Blue-eyes deck that is tournament ready/legal. I absolutely do not know how to play this deck at 100% effectiveness but to me, that doesn't matter because this is the deck that I've always wanted since those younger years. Blue eyes is my favorite card and I love seeing all the foil and shine of the cards. I've worked hard to get to where I am and I wanted to reward that with something that I was never able to get until now. For years I hadn't touched anything TCG related and then one day a deck profile for Blue eyes appeared on my feed and I'm like hmm I wonder how much the game has changed? I've probably watched more deck profiles and card lists/breakdowns over these past couple weeks than I have in years since I stopped. Its been so much fun seeing all of it and I hope one day I can be good enough to seriously play again.
I think your mixing up scrubs and casuals in the beginning. Casually know how to play the game but they just don't play at a competitive level- simple. I know tons of people the splurge out on competitive decks just because they like them. Other then that you give a very fair and nice representation of casuals
Yeah I play a really old “The Agent” deck and merged it somewhat with some of the fairy counter deck and I still do okay and still have lots of fun with it.
In Yu-Gi-Oh there is no point in playing meta because in a few months that really OP deck will get hit with the banlist and be forgotten in the oceans of time my advice is; play your favorite deck or archetype and don't be a thug who plays meta and blows a crapton of money on a deck and or cards that will just eventually be bad when the next good meta deck appears.
I agree with all your points. However, I do know a guy who's pretty much casual, but has a competitive mentality. If he isn't winning, or feels he has a bad matchup, he loses all interest in the game. A couple times he just gave me the match after game 1, which screws up me playing in locals just for fun, cause then I'm not playing at all.
I'm a casual player I love playing Yugioh. the reason I love playing the game is the diversity of all the decks and cards you can play. I also like playing against people that are creative and try new things rather than just building the same deck.
Im a casual player that enjoys a pure pk deck, performapal with cards like performapal uni and corn or playing a stardust junk deck. Its good to know that causal players that play for fun arn't bad in alot of cases. Only deck I seem to have a hard time making is a shooting quaser deck since level eater got banned.
I’m a casual player with a competitive personality and I run a red eyes deck. I don’t like meta because I like the creativity of building my own deck and coming up with my own strategies
The Deck I currently run is a Destiny Hero/God Deck. I codename it Divine Destiny. It involves Destiny Heroes, Vision Hero Vyon, Shadow Mist, Scapeghost, Evilswarm Mandragora, and Rainbow Dark Dragon. I also have Sphere mode for Ra; as well as Mound of the Bound Creator and a Clock Tower Prison/Swords combination. It runs pretty well. I've never really been competitive. I mean..everyone likes winning, but if I don't it isn't the end of the world. The important part is to have fun and show sportsmanship in anything you do(games, sports, etc). I currently only have 3 RL friends that play and my decks do very well against them. We used to have a local card shop to go to, but it closed and the card shop favors Magic over any other game; I literally heard the owner bashing Yugioh and was like "well I'll just take my Yugioh loving ass and leave. I live in Marion, Illinois btw. Any casual players around feel free to HMU on Facebook(John West) or Twitter(digitalduelist)
I am super casual. Only at a competitive level. My favorite decks are Blue-Eyes, Dark Magician, and I've been testing Amorphage on YGOpro. That deck takes a lot of skill and planning, btw. I also love DDDs and World Chalice.
honestly I am a casual player, and ever since seeing the anime for the first time, I dedicated myself to collecting playable god cards. So, I made a god card deck. I used pendulum magicians and gadgets, I love playing the decks even though I suck.
I'm currently a casual player and i'm building a competitive dark magician deck and it really does put me down when i go to locals and i lose to SPYRAL's and they diss me because i dont have my second eternal soul yet or i'm not using a meta deck
I’m a causal player who’s spent plenty on cards. (I do so because I’m trying to buy back my childhood, namely my Ojama and Vehicroid decks.) Thank you acknowledging us causal players!
I'm an old player I stopped competing for a long time I placed second in regionals back in 2010 but the new rules are a little to much for me to come back to competitive
I'm a casual player and I still love the game and try to keep up with the meta and where the format is going... but money is tight but the deck I run is lightsworn simply because when I played before, they were so expensive and I could never dream of affording them. Now I managed to build the whole deck for £50/60 including an extra deck, makes me a very happy guy indeed. Great points here paul, keep up the good work 👍
I'm a casual player. I have four decks: Subterrors, Ancient Gear, a Vennominaga deck I created, and a dragon deck based around Divine Dragonlord Felgrand and Arkbrave. Together the total I spent on them is somewhere around $300. I love these decks especially my Vennominaga one bc I put a lot into finding cards that could make it better
My personal opinion is that we got so good at the game as a community that we lost the whole point of the game: THE FUN. Where have the times in which there was interaction between players gone? Where have the times in which everyone had the chance to have fun with whatever deck gone? I play cubic-kaiju, I lose most of the times, but at least I know that summoning my Crimson Nova, or my Crimson Nova Trinity, will make me feel LIKE WHEN I WAS A KID, happy and careless.
My general rule for buying expensive cards is, if the deck needs it to function at the base level (whether its a searcher, floodgate, combo starter, extender, what have you), i will buy it. Things like hand traps are at the bottom of my list to buy, IF i buy them at all, since they are only in decks as a form of defense instead of using trap cards, since trap cards are slow and usually considered inferior, and therefore arent technically "necessary". My main problem with most competitive players, not just in Yu-Gi-Oh, mind, is that a lot of them have that mentality of if you dont like using a card or if you dont have it in every deck, you're bad. Like in theory, i get the math behind using Pot of Desires. Ive had success with it before in test duels. But, i dont like using it personally since it has screwed me over. And before i get a hateful comment about not using personal experience to debate about the usefulness of a card, I fully understand why Pot of Desires is a great card. But for every complaint made about the occasional scrub player, there are at least 20 elitists who are looking down on any casual player. And I think that's more toxic than any scrub complaining about Pot of Desires. That's why, even if I had the opportunity to go to a tournament, I think I'd rather stay home instead of dealing with elitists who are snobby to even shake hands after a match.
I'm a casual player and yeah ultimately I play to win but I also play to have fun and enjoy the game and I'm not perfect at it but when I lose I try to work out how I lost and what I need to stop my opponent from doing and what they're doing that beats me, a lot of other casual players have this same mindset tbh
I get excited with the new main sets nowadays, since I play Vendreads and stand by them being decent against most matchups. I like the competitive side, but I do like the playstyle of the decks that I want to use.
My local card shop has all competitive players so I constantly lose so I’m just a guy who ask if they can go easy on me does that make me weak or a bad player?
Casual Player here. Can confirm, competitive players don't respect what casual players play. I play Vampires and almost every person I play criticizes me and say "Why don't you run triple Doomking Balerdroch?" "Because I don't want to and it really slows down the consistency of my vampire engine." "That's stupid." Why can't I just play the cards I want to play?!
I built red-eyes about 3-4 years ago and I still use it and it’s still good and fun. My best friend from my locals knows all of my strategies and I still win 90% of the time regardless of whatever deck he’s using I also like the creativity that comes with not playing meta, I hate when I face like 3 players at 1 locals tournament all playing the exact same build with the exact same strategies
I consider myself a casual but i have been playing yu-gi-oh since it first came out and i usually just like exploring combo's for decks most people don't investigate and that in turn actually will catch some people off guard cause they aren't prepared for it or have an answer for it. I find that fun but some "meta" players get extreamly salty when i win like that.
Pot of Desires is the glass half full of yugioh, but it is both a +1 and a -9 it depends on how you look at it yes you a spending 1 card to get 2 but you're also blocking out a decent portion of your deck for that +1 its neither a bad card nor a great one but it can help in the right situation and that is why it's a very useful card if not great
I have seen all types of players. I don't mind if you play competitive or casual, you play what you want. What bothers me is when they play with no sleeves.
Paul Corbett one time I watched a video and this kid not only had an unsleeved Raigeki, he picked his nose while playing.
That is just awful. I once saw a kid at my locals playing a DM deck, every single card unsleeved. Including secret circle, secert navigation, and apprentice illusion. My friend who plays DM and myself wanted to say somthing so badly.
Paul Corbett it's very hard to make me cringe, but that story, that kid, got the job done. Was he knew to the game/locals?
Yes, he was new to the locals and I only saw him once.
Paul Corbett well then that would explain it. He might not have known about sleeves
Casual players: I just don’t wanna spend $500 on a children’s card game where I can’t earn money
Competitive players: Cheapscapes
"they just want to play meme decks"
I feel personally attacked.
Always an awesome feeling when you beat a "competitive player" with a "weak" rogue deck.
I once beat a (full power) pendulum magician player with digital bugs. They were furious XD
Yes! My deck digital bug is the best!!!!!!!
Kevin Orth I love pulling out a Deck that doesn't even really use an Archetype and winning with it with an amazing combo and then they quit online or pick up their cards and leave the shop.
Lol I was versing zoo decks with melos yeah I brought rope to the gun fight. Tie them up while locking the board. Just to see people faces melt Ill throw commons in, that shit destroys high competitors for some reason it just makes em rage. and now I got my feels out the match 😁
Beat full power BA with Blackwings and ended up winning a locals. Everyone was steamed.
I'm incredibly casual with this game nowadays due to being extremely busy with school. I gotta say I really appreciate the fact that this game releases structure/starter decks every so often. There used to be a time in which I might have actually built decks from complete scratch but nowadays I pretty much just get whatever the latest structure/starter deck is and play with a group of equally-casual friends.
It's kinda weird because the game has kind of become like a board game for us. As long as my friends know how to actually play the game, they can just come over and choose from a selection of decks or hell, bring their own. There is enough variety there. It's our way of keeping in touch with the game even if it's only juuuuust a little.
As a meta player I feel the same. What I do is because of card shop is very flexible with tournaments, there is a friday local's, a saturday mid day locals and a sunday morning locals. SO I have 3 days to pick and I can normally show up at one once a week for the most part and play\hang out. So even if life is busy or I havea bunch of plans I can normally still keep in touch with the game along with sadly the occasional regional or YCS I can go to maybe every 6 monthes or so.
Agreed, you can get a decent deck going and win every now and then by just dropping $30 on 3 of the same structure deck.
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Team APS thank u man
Team APS I need some help on where to sell my Chinese Dark Magician P4-02, the card is really expensive and I am trying to find the right place, where I can sell it for the right price
Hello Team APS. Thank you for the video. I play Yu-Gi-Oh off and on I've never been competitive and I pretty much play the format before Link summoning does that make me a bad player. Please if you can I would like a message back. Thanks again for the video and "Get your game on"
People calling others scrubs is stupid when everyone was one at some point. A true scrub is someone who never improves at the game and always has excuses to why they lost. They never say they lost because they played poorly or have a mediocre deck build.
An honest casual player who wants to improve at the game who doesn't spew out lame excuses and acknowledges their mistakes isn't a scrub. Playing an inferior deck doesn't make you a scrub, it's your choice if you want to try something different. You'll generally have to play meta if you want to maximize your winning chance.
Yugioh needs a format for the casuals, like EDH in MTG, it started as a casual format and now is the most played format because you don't need to play the most expensive deck or the newest deck in the meta. I have decks that are 3 or 4 years old and they still work perfectly fine.
As a meta player I want that. I mean I like playing altergeist in the meta and I top 64 at with satellarknights back in the day but if there could be a banlist and an event for less meta decks would be cool. Like to play madolche again in a tournament or one of my decks that fell off.
The equivalent is Goat format wish it was more popular
That would be dope
@@berlinglasgow4942 not really the equivalent when casual s don't want to play it
Okay. I need to know where you got that hat.
Glad you like it! A friend of mine actually picked it up for me last year at an anime convention. I'm sure it's floating around online somewhere, too.
Yo I've seen that hat only once before and it doesn't exist online I've been looking everywhere for it
Some say there was four in existence, until some asshole ripped one of them up
Kaiba Corp. Gift shop
Just because my 1196 card blue eyes dark magician burning abyss lightsworn true draco true king domain monarch odd-eyes pepe exodia gouki hand knightmare red-eyes deck isnt legal doesnt mean im bad
You're either the best worst player or the worst best player
Imagine the shuffling....no wait imagine the probability of drawing cards that you could combo with...worse than Exodia in the draw hand's probability
My grandpas deck has no combos Kaiba
Tomdawe what’s the deck list ;D
What are you from the early 2000s? 😂
Thank you so much for this
I see people trash on casual players like me because I want to play weather painters or Heavy Metal Raiders but I'm just trying to enjoy myself
Iammullet FINALLY someone else who likes weathery (I like the original name better)
I play meta decks sometimes, but weathery, like other things, fit my MO for deckbuilding. low level cutesy monsters that can piss off my opponent xD.
I want to play weather painters soooo bad, the cards are super pretty
if you like grind games and flood gates you will enjoy weather painters
Iammullet People have literally cussed me out for beating them with "Casual Trash" like my King Arthur/Utopia Warrior Xyz Deck I made because they couldn't counter Number 86: Rhognomyniad and said theres no way my Deck built to get this thing out first turn could get it out first turn and beat them twice in a row.
XYZ stacking decks have existed for years tho, and Rhognomyniad turbo is really easy to pull off...did people already forget about Kaijus because of Spheremode?
Most competitive players I met were sweaty tryhards, that only cared about wins and became furious, when something didn’t go their way. They regularly threw cards around, flipped tables or even sometimes assaulted other players. Meanwhile, casual players were some of the chillest people I ever met. Most told me they just played for fun, some cared for wins, others didn’t.
I don’t even play at locals and i have decks like Mekk-Invoked, Darklord, Elementsabers, Odd-Eyes, Subterrors etc with all the meta extra deck cards and hand traps(besides ghost belle). I just like collecting.
Me too! I just don't have one ash blossom and evenly matched though
how do you fell about scrambled eggs that card yusei used
in a video i think by dezff i could be vary wrong about that. he or someone said that the card is for 1% of the yugioh community the collectors/players/anime Fans
i want to know your opinion on this because you seem to be a collector/player and maybe a fan of the anime ?
SMOSHOO I do like the anime, I understand people weren’t excited about it being released in a core set, and more of the player base thought it should have been printed in a different set.
Eventually it had to be printed and I feel like no matter where it showed up people would be upset. I like the card though. The artwork is definitely adorable and the name is unique.
It was just released too far away from its prime to be considered in all but the most casual decks.
Same. I currently have World Chalice with a Saryuja and a few of the Knightmare cards, along with a Firewall Dragon I'm borrowing from a friend. Then I have an Invoked Elementsaber deck with the Invoked core and Borreload.
I'm definitely more of a casual/collector. I'm actually sorting through my cards right now. Well I've been working on it off and on for the past three days. Cards....cards everywhere.
Krystle Barnes I totally know your pain! I have a decent sized collection, only about 21,000 cards...
I'm doing the same right now. I'd love to know what system you're using to organise your collection.
Krystle Barnes I'm using tcgplayer.com's collection tracker. It's a little glitchy, but it's ok.
Thanks a lot, Allyne. It seems like a really good tool, especially if monitoring value is a concern for you. However, I was hoping more for tips on keeping my physical cards in good order and then keeping a personal digital record independent of any external control. I'll look into it though, thank you.
Gerard Hill sorry, misunderstood.
I have my collection sorted by set and numerical order within each set. I currently have 16 2 inch binders.
I know I'm late but something hilarious happened. So I was dueling my brother with my yugi deck I made. My brother summoned this 6000 atk monster and attacked me and I had freaking kuriboh in my hand, he was mad. This proves that kuriboh is the best hand trap
Miguel Ramos kuriboh IS STILL the best hand trap* :)
What is this 6000 atk point monster you speak of?
Tommy Barnes he tributes this monster to summon great maju garzett. We're both CASUAL players
Miguel Ramos ooh very nice move with kuriboh then! I’m only a casual player myself. I just got back into yugioh and decided dark magician was going to be my first deck. Cyber dragon and red eyes next for me 🙌
Tommy Barnes yea go for it. I play those decks, they're really fun
Strangers don't need to worry if I'm having fun or not. Casual and proud.
I definitely consider myself a casual. I like playing decks that I think are cool/fun like DM and Blue Eyes. But I also like winning so I do stay current on the meta as well!
I am a casual player and i know that my deck has some random cards thrown together
But it’s actually really fun
Great video!
I’ve been a proud casual player since I first played. It’s a great way to learn if you want to get competitive by watching what decks are being played & *how* to actually play that deck with correct card combos. Showing my age here; I beat down this competitive player with a Macro-Monarch deck (anti-meta of it’s day). He was so ott with a LS deck (new at the time), that he got really agro & nearly chucked his cards. It’s a case of if you aren’t mentally prepared to take a loss, you’d better not enter.
I fall under that category where I love the game and playing I just don't want to have to play a deck just to be competitive. To me that takes the fun out building and optimising a deck.
But in the end just play what you wanna play and have fun. Win or lose I'll always love the game.
The reason these myths come up is there more than just casual vs competitive. There's many different types of casuals. The one's everyone complain about are the one's with 54 one of's in a deck who don't want to get better at the game (and they don't go the locals generally, just "scrub school", and if you know any legit strategy or deck building techniques you're try-harding). Then there's the ones brewing the best anti-meta krawler deck in the world and are better than some competitive players. Or there's the ones who just keep playing they're favorite (maybe out of date) deck but it's still a legit deck unlike the first category I mentioned.
Then there are those like me who are more of a mix of those. XD I personally play more casual but I have a competitive attitude when it comes to losing, mostly if I lose a lot.
Very good points here. I tried to lump everything into one video, but you're definitely right that there is a range within the casual (and community, for that matter) communities.
I once literally slapped together a shockingly good Tribute-based Deck from literal scrap cards I had laying around when I forgot my deck one day. It was so good I refined it and made it one of my regulars, so don't knock the Highlander format, because it conformed to that just fine and was still functional
The fighting game analogy is really fitting. No one thinks less of people who play Street Fighter with their friends instead of entering FGC events -- so why does this happen with YGO?
Preach it brother that shit drives me crazy to.
Because some competitive players get salty when they loose to casual decks or act like they are wasting their time against them because they are "testing".
I think also something that differs Street Fighter (or FGC at large) and TCG like Yugioh with let's take sports is that in sports you can't just walk down (take Basketball as an example) onto the court and play in a pro game. With FGC and TCG you can sign up for any tournament and just join and play no matter if your a pro or a casual player (though I know invitationals don't count in my argument) you can still play no matter what. Also after regionals or tournaments, people will go home and just play Yu-gi-oh casually or go to their local shop, so everyone, in reality, is a scrub.
To be fair, even for Street Fighter, there are assholes that look down on casual players. The difference is that Street Fighters has a much wider audience to play with. Yugioh now is a game played by a small few. So causal players are now super rare and the elite crowd are also a part of a group of people who are one of the few Yugioh players.
So the group that should be niche in other games is the largest group in Yugioh. And even then, there is also the fact that they are the ones keeping the game alive. Street Fighter, while it has elites, would survive if these elite players disappeared.
Yugioh, not so much.
And finally, it's just that because the game is so niche, the douches just HAVE to gather together...
This is so true I play skull Servants but I keep up to date and constantly see new releases and deck analysis videos/articles
your epic
@@gasternecross thanks
@@H3il3nder skull servants have gotten some cards that make it better
@@gasternecross What cards?
@@H3il3nder go to ygoprodecks theres many cards
I'm definitely one who likes to bling out his deck. A couple months ago, I finished doing that for my Dark Magician deck, and will soon be working on doing it for my Blue-Eyes Chaos MAX deck
Im a diehard gravekeeper fan and my deck is all holoed out after years of collecting/buying/trading. It feels good man
I've been into Yugioh since 2002, nearly 2 decades and only ever been to 1 Large tournament in 2009... and I didn't like it very much, the atmosphere was way too serious, I prefer playing at locals where you actually have a sense of community and hang out with players you know, and even meet new players that visit locals ocasionally. it's this kind of friendly interaction that I enjoy and look forward to each month. ^_^
I'm only a casual player, but I try to stay up to date with the latest products, heck... I still have decks cores that were big in 2008 in my collection. =3 Besides, my opinion on the whole bias about 'Casual players' being cheapscates or sucking, is bs. =/ Someone could be a millionaire and have EVERY card ever made and still suck at the game, and on the flip side, someone could dual with altered structure dec, practiced with it continuously and beat any META deck with it. becasue they know their deck inside and out, every combo and ever play.
I don't see this game as needing to spend tons of money in order to win, luck is major part of the game, but so is SKILL, to me, that's the important thing, the skill of the player, they able to make the best of bad situations in a duel and think there way out of a tight spot and turn things around. ^_^
I know this video is 2 years old, but I'd like to state an opinion. I as a casual player enjoy taking a homebrew deck and seeing what it can do. I do this with both YGO and MTG. I don't really care if I win or lose, I just wanna have fun playing
I'm not on that level, but some casual players simply get so good at the combos in their homebrew deck the competitive players are simply surprised or do not know where to stop the combo
Same here I dont care if I lose or win its just fun and me I have a kid and family now so casual is the way to go for me
I'm a casual player, and I went to play some games with competitive players at my locals for the first time. People would be surprised to realize how many competitive players don't know how to play this game/lie to cheat you out of wins.
Me:*runs a red eyes deck*
My friends mind:*must watch out for galaxy tomahawk*
Me:*Doesn't know what galaxy tomahawk is and runs time wizard*
LOL
I came back to yugioh casually and play with old school stuff and with my friends in cube draft. Happened to me with magic too. When you have less time, it’s better to pick a format you enjoy that you dont have to keep up with
I'm a collector first and foremost. But I love BEWD decks. I lose a lot. A lot. But I have fun because I'm playing with the deck I love.
My favorite deck (Dark Blade) will NEVER top a YCS in any universe. But damnit it's a fun deck to play!
i still play Lightsworns and really enjoy the deck which can make some crazy boards!
When I played, my main deck was an a**holey Remove From Play [i'm old school in terms lol] Deck that had an added bonus of running the Attack Lockdown of Gravekeeper's Servant & Macro Cosmos. But I've also ran my own take on an Exodia Deck, as well as Lightlords [Japanese name for Lightsworn], started getting into Gemknights. I stopped around 2009 when I graduated College, now I occasionally collect.
Some casual friends and I spend a lot on this game but mostly on sealed. And because no one really buys super expensive singles no one has hand traps like ghost ogre, ash blossom, or ghost bell and I think the games a lot more fun because of that.
There's 3 blue eyes decks, 1 ancient gear, 1 Dino, 1 Grave Keepers, 1 Noble Knight, 1 Lair of Darkness, and a lot of other fun stuff.
And as far as Pot of Desires goes I'm the only one who runs it and I run as many copies of it that I own(2). I think I have won every single time I have used it in a duel. Its pretty damn good.
Not to spoil the mood, but how is gravekeepers fun?
I will give you everything else though, also desires is a 3 dollar card so should not be too much to a casual player.
Lair of Darkness vs Gravekeepers are pretty fun matches. Desires came in those mega tins and pretty much everyone bought at least one and some people bought 2. So everyone has 1-2 copies of it but I'm the only one that actually runs it.
Me and my friends have recently gotten back into Yu-Gi-Oh, but we don't want to do competitive play bc we really enjoy the older formats that are pre link summoning.
Nice to know I'm not the only one.
I agree, I don't play link format
I do the same. I love Yu-Gi-Oh but only play when I know I'm against people who play pre link and pendulum. I still have fun and build good decks.
@@dylanshadowstar9779 are you a casual duelist?
If so how many cards do you run in your decks or deck bulits?
Thank you in advance if you can answer me😊
@@FrancistheBrave I've built a few decks and obviously try to keep em close to 40
Thanks you for this, I'm a hardcore casual who tries to play like a competitive player using a half train and half kaiju deck
I went to my first ever local event a few weeks ago and won first place with herald of perfection, it felt incredible going againdt some of the top tier meta and win with such a Rogue deck
I still use my Gustos. They’re fun and there’s no other deck the works similar.
I sometimes end up making decks solely on the Archetype's artwork or backstory.
As a meta player, your last remark was why I built madolche and that was when they first came out. I still have the deck today.
thank you for making these videos! these kind of videos are important, as a sort of understanding between both comp and casual players is whats needed to help make this community more enjoyable and easy to access for new players :D
I genuinely pity competitive players because they are incapable of enjoying themselves unless they win. That must be such a sad way to live, relying on causing another human being humiliation just to make yourself feel better lol
Good video Paul, unfortunately their will always be elitist and scumbag players(players who cheat or abuse the rules) in the game. And the over competitive group will always be infested with those players. Another thing i would add is most of casual players like you said can't always afford the over powered cards of a format and i would ague if Konami printed common versions in every set of power cards like evenly matched or ash blossom then even the casuals could keep up with an optimized tear 2 deck. I've seen time and time again on YGOPRO replay channels where a casual player with a fully optimized tier 2 deck wrecks a tier 1 deck. In short I think the only reason their is a divide between the Casual and the Competitive is money and elitism. Especially the elitist side of things because even if i win they take the fun out of the game with the whining and if i lose they gloat and fling insults so its not surprising why their is a divide. If their is anything that this game needs improvement on its the elitist attitudes.
Very good points here. I for one am in favor of Konami printing powerful cards at more accessible rarities to level the accessibility and even the playing field. To be fair, there are elitists on both ends of the spectrum. A common complaint casual players will leverage against competitive players is that they are just sheep or followers for only playing the best decks and lacking originality. This very mindset is elitist in its own way, though. It still implies that you have to play the game a certain way and to not do so is inferior or wrong in some sense.
I remember being hated on for playing rank 10 trains by some guy that does stuff like tournament stuff but ya know still beat him once out 3 so yeeeet
This video I completely agree and here are my thoughts.
#1 Not everyone wanted to spend a lot of money on cards they don't like (even if it is really strong or really meta relevant). Some others want to spend their money on cards that can improve their favorite decks(yeah not only meta decks get to be upgraded)
#2 Yeah they just don't build good decks. They build better ones. Most of the time casual players build rogue deck to compete with the tier 1 meta and that just makes them better than net decking meta decks.
#3 Casual players follow the game more than everybody does. Not all casual players are newbies. Some of them are retired player(from competitive scene) and just decided to play casually, but still updated with the current ins and outs of the game, new sets, new rules etc.
#4 Not all Casual players are new into the game. Most of them are experienced players who just wanted to enjoy the game and playing decks that not restrict them to 2 or 3 choices. These experienced players are even better with card rules, chain building and even unconventional or out of date combos. Their knowledge pool for the game is sometimes better than the competitive players. Watch worlds 2018 and see how competitive players misplay etc., which are fairly common even with casual players, that doesn't mean casual players sucks playing the game than competitive players.
#5 Most casual players says "we play for fun" doesnt mean they don't wanna win. What's the point of building a really amazing rogue deck if they don't win with it? So, they build this "out of radar" deck and enters local tournaments and tries to win games with it( and yes the competitive player spirit is there but playing rogue makes them stereotyped into casual players)
Seriously with all ur. Skits n videos like this u guys should have 2 million subs u guys talks about every topic keep grinding
I try and keep up with the game but simply don't have the time or money as I once did as I have a family to provide for. As Paul said, my priorities are different from others. Family first, bills second then Yu-Gi-Oh is further down the list
I’m a current casual player and working on getting into the competitive scene. The price of some of the cards I want to make what I feel is the optimal build is holding me back. But I’ve never had any of these things hold me back. I have taken my current build of chaos max turbo against some of the competitive players a coworker knows and they’ve helped a lot with building and pulling off the combos. I’ve even let them play the deck and have given suggestions on tech cards to make it better. It’s nice to have someone like you show some love to the casual players
I'd totally play a Dark Magician deck whether it's meta or not. I just love mages and that has been one of my favorite characters since I was a kid watching the original show.
It's not about winning or losing against casual or competitive players it's about how you play the game.
I play casual myself because of what happened to my trading card shop back in 2015. Back then we played casually already but everyone went there to play have fun. Until one day 2 regular duelists came in with their pricey pro decks at the time. They beat everyone pretty much all the time turn 1 or 2. Before long everyone got sick of playing with them and to teach them a lesson we started to play troll lockdown decks. It was about all that could be done anyway. However, when we saw these decks in action we realize we won every time with them~
This opened a sort of pandora's box if you will. Now everyone was doing this and before long it became just games of coin toss. Whoever won that won the game most of the time. Players also got more toxic as they started to play to win. Within a year of that, my friend who ran the card shop was forced to close simply because no one wanted to play Yugioh anymore over there. After all who wants to play a game where no one can make a move? XD Everyone in my area now shuns competitive and try hard players. If you play to win at any cost, even at the cost of the other player making any move at all, then go play solitaire. Not to say you shouldn't play to win. Just... Ya know XD
Great video. As a casual player I totally agree. Ive taken Rouge decks to Regionals and played at the top tables, and before time rules, drew a heavy crowd(cool part). But the top tables can kill the enjoyment of yugioh. Many players have huge egos, high saltiness levels, and limp wristed hand shakes. Chances are most players started playing yugioh vs casual players because they understand it is about the fun, and many players leave because competitve yugioh players are often not much fun.
Man as a competitive fighting game player that analogy was so good, I know so many people who follow the tournaments but dont really play or only play casually. They tend to know whats good ect but dont fully understand the exact reasons why, im a casual yugioh player but I do drop the game from time to time but when im playing I know whats in the meta/whats good cards but I dont fully understand why everything is good or how it works
I dont play competitive because the concept of it is ridiculous to me, casual you can play literally anything you want and competitive you HAVE to run a very specific deck or else its pointless to even try, at what point is that fun?
Not at all lmao
There are plenty of very different decks/strategies that are all viable
This is an incredible video. The concept applies to all games, not just Yu-Gi-Oh. Thank you for putting this out there. Players should be able to enjoy the game in a way that makes them happy without being scrutinized by elitists.
i'm a super casual player. i only use one deck, and i very rarely play outside of letting my boyfriend test decks on me. yet, every time i played at my local's tournaments, i win all of them. i only came second place once, and that was because of a janky system where you got extra points for promoting the store which i didnt know about, so i only ended up in second because the other person got unfair points. the myth that casual players are bad is ridiculous
I'm curious, what kind of deck do you use?
I’m sure you do 🙄
It's possible to spend an awful lot on Yu-Gi-Oh! even if you play casually.
I have a bad habit of purchasing full sets of archetypes, like all Lunalight, or all Pendulum Magicians, or all D/D (wish we'd get a link card for them, though). I like Blue Eyes.
Definitely agreed! Expensive cards do not discriminate!
Indeed. :-)
I'm a casual player myself, playing either Evol-tile/suar/zar or Zombies, both I can say I spent about 50$ on min the Zombie Deck is slowly costing me an arm and a leg (but then again I also play Warhamer AoS & 40k) :P (and yet I can't track down 3 copies of Doomkaiser Dragon).
But at the end of the day all it is really is how people like to enjoy the game.
I recently got back into yugioh after 8 years of abscence and so much has changed. Personally I'm just really into the story and the artwork is neat.
This video sums me up really, since day 1 i've been in and out of the game. I'm still optimizing the chaos zone necroface build, ever since the original chaos builds in the old days, ive continued to mess with it. It's slowly changed from chaos sorcerer to zombies to a macro helios build to a DD necroface. I'm 100% one of the people that would love to see 3-5 cards unbanned or unrestricted. Playing with friends and lax rules it's got some flex for sure, but would need more support to be close to meta at all lol
That moment when you break a trickster skystriker meta deck with an agents deck with prime material dragon
I'm a local and I love my synchron deck due to 5ds making my childhood amazing
Necroz will always be bad, it has been from the start and can never be better because its all about bric- I mean drawing the cards you need for rituals
It should be noted that the winner of the National Championship for Australia won with a deck you can easily build for less than $30 (it just used 3 structure decks).
One accusation that has been leveled at me, as a casual player, is that I ask a LOT of questions about whether or not a card can be a good substitute for a more expensive, meta card and whatnot, and that - as a result - I don't think for myself and determine what I want in the game. That isn't true, at all; I feel like people like me, who are casual players and question the more competitive players about card interactions and substitutes and whatnot a lot, are - as you said - either trying to min-max their deck's potential to its fullest, or are trying to choose the best options out of a budget pool, and while casual players are more of the experimenters, tournament players are more of the rules lawyers of the game, and would have a deeper and more attuned knowledge on card interactions and substitutes than the player asking them might have. Does that make them bad players? No, they're just asking "I know what I want to do with this deck, but I don't know the best way to accomplish that task; with your superior knowledge of how cards interact and the nuances of the rulings for these cards, what would you do in my position?"
Anyway, this is a really good analysis of the false claims against casual players. It really resonates with me, because I feel it embodies what I go through, when playing the game; I love taking niche, "bad" decks, and pushing them to their maximum potential with what I can get a hold of - something that I was inspired to do, after I got complimented by a Chaos Yata duelist for stalling them for so long with a crappy feline flip/bounce deck. I've spent thousands of dollars on cards to maximize the potential of my decks, and while I've been forcing myself to get more into the meta decks (like Gouki Extra Link), it's not as fun as, say... playing a Moja beatdown/Link deck at its best.
I don't play competitively at all, but I really enjoy collecting the cards and I like playing ultra-casual with my friends, so I usually pick up a box of whatever new thing when it comes out.
I'm a casual yugioh player and spectator. I haven't touched the game since late middle school, early high school and I'm 29 years old now. I spent ~120 on a Blue-eyes deck that is tournament ready/legal. I absolutely do not know how to play this deck at 100% effectiveness but to me, that doesn't matter because this is the deck that I've always wanted since those younger years. Blue eyes is my favorite card and I love seeing all the foil and shine of the cards. I've worked hard to get to where I am and I wanted to reward that with something that I was never able to get until now. For years I hadn't touched anything TCG related and then one day a deck profile for Blue eyes appeared on my feed and I'm like hmm I wonder how much the game has changed? I've probably watched more deck profiles and card lists/breakdowns over these past couple weeks than I have in years since I stopped. Its been so much fun seeing all of it and I hope one day I can be good enough to seriously play again.
I think your mixing up scrubs and casuals in the beginning. Casually know how to play the game but they just don't play at a competitive level- simple. I know tons of people the splurge out on competitive decks just because they like them. Other then that you give a very fair and nice representation of casuals
TheKidFawFul that's the point of the video tho, ppl stay getting them mixed up. So I believe that the way the video starts is probably intentional
Sadly there is loads of competitive players out there that think if you don't play the best deck card for card you're a casual scrub.
You're correct.
Yeah I play a really old “The Agent” deck and merged it somewhat with some of the fairy counter deck and I still do okay and still have lots of fun with it.
Come to casual Yu-Gi-Oh! were Magic Cylinder has a similar effect as Pot of Greed ...... I heard about this Myths and this articel😅😅😅
Idek what pot of greed does tho :/
NOBODY KNOWS WHAT POT OF GREED DO!
Cit. Little kuriboh
I beat some guy by baiting with a call of the haunted, then pulling a magic cylinder to win the game. He was like "what?... who plays that card?!"
@@neon_wombat I play it and I'm proud.
@@neon_wombat I've won a few games against my friends using it lol
In Yu-Gi-Oh there is no point in playing meta because in a few months that really OP deck will get hit with the banlist and be forgotten in the oceans of time my advice is; play your favorite deck or archetype and don't be a thug who plays meta and blows a crapton of money on a deck and or cards that will just eventually be bad when the next good meta deck appears.
I agree with all your points. However, I do know a guy who's pretty much casual, but has a competitive mentality. If he isn't winning, or feels he has a bad matchup, he loses all interest in the game. A couple times he just gave me the match after game 1, which screws up me playing in locals just for fun, cause then I'm not playing at all.
I'm a casual player I love playing Yugioh. the reason I love playing the game is the diversity of all the decks and cards you can play. I also like playing against people that are creative and try new things rather than just building the same deck.
Im a casual player that enjoys a pure pk deck, performapal with cards like performapal uni and corn or playing a stardust junk deck. Its good to know that causal players that play for fun arn't bad in alot of cases. Only deck I seem to have a hard time making is a shooting quaser deck since level eater got banned.
Myth 2: You can't not build a good deck tbh, If you think a deck is fun or cool, then it's good, you can't defy that fact
I’m a casual player with a competitive personality and I run a red eyes deck. I don’t like meta because I like the creativity of building my own deck and coming up with my own strategies
The Deck I currently run is a Destiny Hero/God Deck. I codename it Divine Destiny. It involves Destiny Heroes, Vision Hero Vyon, Shadow Mist, Scapeghost, Evilswarm Mandragora, and Rainbow Dark Dragon. I also have Sphere mode for Ra; as well as Mound of the Bound Creator and a Clock Tower Prison/Swords combination.
It runs pretty well. I've never really been competitive. I mean..everyone likes winning, but if I don't it isn't the end of the world. The important part is to have fun and show sportsmanship in anything you do(games, sports, etc). I currently only have 3 RL friends that play and my decks do very well against them. We used to have a local card shop to go to, but it closed and the card shop favors Magic over any other game; I literally heard the owner bashing Yugioh and was like "well I'll just take my Yugioh loving ass and leave. I live in Marion, Illinois btw. Any casual players around feel free to HMU on Facebook(John West) or Twitter(digitalduelist)
Thank you Paul! I’m a casual ABC player and all these points are very relevant to me and many of my other casual friends
I am super casual. Only at a competitive level. My favorite decks are Blue-Eyes, Dark Magician, and I've been testing Amorphage on YGOpro. That deck takes a lot of skill and planning, btw. I also love DDDs and World Chalice.
honestly I am a casual player, and ever since seeing the anime for the first time, I dedicated myself to collecting playable god cards. So, I made a god card deck. I used pendulum magicians and gadgets, I love playing the decks even though I suck.
I'm currently a casual player and i'm building a competitive dark magician deck and it really does put me down when i go to locals and i lose to SPYRAL's and they diss me because i dont have my second eternal soul yet or i'm not using a meta deck
That voice crack tho lol great video and thanks for making me feel better being a casual player
Great video dude!!
I’m a causal player who’s spent plenty on cards. (I do so because I’m trying to buy back my childhood, namely my Ojama and Vehicroid decks.) Thank you acknowledging us causal players!
I'm an old player I stopped competing for a long time I placed second in regionals back in 2010 but the new rules are a little to much for me to come back to competitive
One day, I will have a full Nekroz deck again. I loved that deck, it was amazing.
I'm building one right now, any tips?
I'm a casual player and I still love the game and try to keep up with the meta and where the format is going... but money is tight but the deck I run is lightsworn simply because when I played before, they were so expensive and I could never dream of affording them. Now I managed to build the whole deck for £50/60 including an extra deck, makes me a very happy guy indeed. Great points here paul, keep up the good work 👍
getting back into yugioh, I've always loved zombies in media etc and effect cards is there any deck like that?
Try the new Zombie Horde structure deck. If you prefer skeletons, look up deck lists for Skeletal Servant/Wight decks
I'm a casual player. I have four decks: Subterrors, Ancient Gear, a Vennominaga deck I created, and a dragon deck based around Divine Dragonlord Felgrand and Arkbrave. Together the total I spent on them is somewhere around $300. I love these decks especially my Vennominaga one bc I put a lot into finding cards that could make it better
My personal opinion is that we got so good at the game as a community that we lost the whole point of the game: THE FUN. Where have the times in which there was interaction between players gone? Where have the times in which everyone had the chance to have fun with whatever deck gone? I play cubic-kaiju, I lose most of the times, but at least I know that summoning my Crimson Nova, or my Crimson Nova Trinity, will make me feel LIKE WHEN I WAS A KID, happy and careless.
I make decks mainly sealed only. Yeah I'll but a single card every now and then, but I like the feeling of pulling the one card you need.
My general rule for buying expensive cards is, if the deck needs it to function at the base level (whether its a searcher, floodgate, combo starter, extender, what have you), i will buy it. Things like hand traps are at the bottom of my list to buy, IF i buy them at all, since they are only in decks as a form of defense instead of using trap cards, since trap cards are slow and usually considered inferior, and therefore arent technically "necessary". My main problem with most competitive players, not just in Yu-Gi-Oh, mind, is that a lot of them have that mentality of if you dont like using a card or if you dont have it in every deck, you're bad. Like in theory, i get the math behind using Pot of Desires. Ive had success with it before in test duels. But, i dont like using it personally since it has screwed me over. And before i get a hateful comment about not using personal experience to debate about the usefulness of a card, I fully understand why Pot of Desires is a great card. But for every complaint made about the occasional scrub player, there are at least 20 elitists who are looking down on any casual player. And I think that's more toxic than any scrub complaining about Pot of Desires. That's why, even if I had the opportunity to go to a tournament, I think I'd rather stay home instead of dealing with elitists who are snobby to even shake hands after a match.
I'm a casual player and yeah ultimately I play to win but I also play to have fun and enjoy the game and I'm not perfect at it but when I lose I try to work out how I lost and what I need to stop my opponent from doing and what they're doing that beats me, a lot of other casual players have this same mindset tbh
I get excited with the new main sets nowadays, since I play Vendreads and stand by them being decent against most matchups. I like the competitive side, but I do like the playstyle of the decks that I want to use.
I have been very excited for this video!!!
I'm always excited to see your comments! :)
Because of this video, it makes me more proud to be a casual player! Thanks Team APS for this video! 🇵🇭🇺🇸
My local card shop has all competitive players so I constantly lose so I’m just a guy who ask if they can go easy on me does that make me weak or a bad player?
Casual Player here. Can confirm, competitive players don't respect what casual players play. I play Vampires and almost every person I play criticizes me and say "Why don't you run triple Doomking Balerdroch?" "Because I don't want to and it really slows down the consistency of my vampire engine." "That's stupid."
Why can't I just play the cards I want to play?!
I built red-eyes about 3-4 years ago and I still use it and it’s still good and fun. My best friend from my locals knows all of my strategies and I still win 90% of the time regardless of whatever deck he’s using
I also like the creativity that comes with not playing meta, I hate when I face like 3 players at 1 locals tournament all playing the exact same build with the exact same strategies
I consider myself a casual but i have been playing yu-gi-oh since it first came out and i usually just like exploring combo's for decks most people don't investigate and that in turn actually will catch some people off guard cause they aren't prepared for it or have an answer for it. I find that fun but some "meta" players get extreamly salty when i win like that.
Yes i spent a lot of money on decks OVER TIME when my budget allows it.
Pot of Desires is the glass half full of yugioh, but it is both a +1 and a -9 it depends on how you look at it yes you a spending 1 card to get 2 but you're also blocking out a decent portion of your deck for that +1 its neither a bad card nor a great one but it can help in the right situation and that is why it's a very useful card if not great
The main reason i play casual over meta is the variety. Meta is always the same 4 decks and combos.