Fortnite obviously tried to change its identity after Chapter 1 , it went from competitive building battle royale with goofy cartoon skins , to a social battle royal in which every single ip is in it just works on fortnite cuz thats what they are known for now games like call of duty thats just an identity crisis
It does stick to its dna though, it’s identity isn’t it’s skins it’s the fact that it’s a battle royale with building mechanic and a cartoon esc art style
Epic and Disney are no different. they’re both greedy. It’s true that Disney makes unoriginal remakes to make money, and that’s exactly what epic does with their collabs. They rely on the community to make modes, thrive off of collabs in the item shop, and so far Chapter 5 has been one big ad
Let’s be real epic does not RELY on the community made maps, they make enough money off BR and the main modes that they don’t need community made maps to begin with
The good thing with Disney is that it’s only 10% so they are not going to make the decisions for everything more so relegated to their own mode. Also Disney would not stop collaborations with other companies as it’s only 10% but also I like to think they arnt so stupid as to turn down free money as I bet they want Batman in the game as it’s just free money. Also I doubt they would step in to make no changes as them not being the majority shareholder can let them be laughed out of a conference room if they don’t want guns in the game or some shit like that it’s more so they just own a chunk of the company and can put their characters in the game
One thing I don’t like about collabs is how sometimes Epic can make a trash battle pass, but as long as they put one good collab, people will still buy it
Wrong , i actually went back and checked and the ONLY item shop withouth any collabs (not counting the cars cuz idk if they are a brand or not) was on december 7th exacly 2 days before the weeknd arrived 1 day after slim shady left and 1 day before the rocket racing cars arrived
he was most likely not but still ONLY A SINGLE DAY DIDNT HAVE A COLLAB SKIN THATS KINDA DEPRESSING like we get a collab skin every day for 3 months but not any old icon emotes since dec 5 th ;-;@@Disco1211
Not in my case, when I saw Peter on the Battlepass I skipped that season entirely because, IDK, it felt like it was too much and he ruined the pass for me. I kind of regret it now because I didn't got the Hope and Agent Jones skin
I don't think Collabs ruin Fortnite, I think the game even more fun to play because you can play as a character from a TV show or a movie which adds more flavor and variety to the game, I think the game benefited a lot from adding these since a lot of people start playing the game due to collabs, I've heard a few people say they started playing this new chapter because of the Peter Griffin Skin so it shows that they're doing something right
Haven't watched the vid yet, but figured I'd give my thoughts so far first and edit it later after I've watched the vid. I don't think the collabs on their own are the issue, I think it's how they've become so central to the game that is the issue. Collabs used to be a fun surprise and not something that would happen everyday. Every battlepass was unique and you never knew what to expect till the next season because they were all fully original. Nowadays they're everywhere and included in every battlepass. It's to much, it ruins the point of a collab as a special event and ruins everything else by detracting from the genuinely creative and unique parts of the game like the original character skins. Part of what made the first chapter so popular was the cool original skins. Omega and The Reaper and iconic and beloved by fans and are all but mascots for fortnite. Now the mascot is whatever crossover skin guest stars in the battlepass that they use as the face of the game and it just isn't the same. Not to mention the shop. We have 2k+ outfits in the game and the majority are original designs, but you'll never see them cause the shop is filled every day with collab after collab after collab. Update: Watched the vid and you have some good points. That being said my stance really isn't altered that much. Disney doesn't seem to be holding them back to much, they literally had a fallout collab so the disney being to soft doesn't seem to have been to bad. I still stand by that the problem is frequency of collabs not the collabs themselves.
Imo the thing where they would put iconic dances in the game and replace the music with their own original one was actually really cool and a subtle wacky way to have pop culture references that still fit in with the original style of the game
Well they stopped doing that because they were getting in trouble especially with the fresh emote and default dance when they got sued for it, so it kinda makes sense why they would want to avoid doing the subtle references and just out right buy the rights to it
@@F1_soap yeah that is actually a very valid point, I never really considered it as a copyright bypassing thing and more as them doing it as a reference, but yeah def makes more sense to just buy it and avoid that whole situation
I like collabs as they can be stupidly funny. Though It definitely changes focus from one of my favorite aspects of the game: the lore. I would want the collabs to be entwined with the lore more, or at least dropped in favor of making a good storyline for the seasons.
I REALLY like collab skins, but I'm really not a fan of when it overtakes br, something like the metal gear box is funny and harmless enough, but swapping half the loot pool for avatar for a month was not
Imo c2s5 collabs were mostly fine with the multiversal bounty hunting theme. Outside a few exceptions like antman, flash, tron skins etc. a fair amount were the type of characters that would be a good pick to yoink as a bounty hunter. Ellen ripley makes sense, xenomorph got sucked in with her, a predator makes sense, master chief makes sense. It's the kind of season where collabs make sense with the theme. And they had a bunch of bounty hunter skins introduced in the season too outside the battlepass
why is everyone acting like disney owns epic? it's 10%! they get to vote in the company and that's about it, and it's not like the other companies and individuals with shares are going to give them up
I remember there was some worry earlier in the game's lifespan that Tencent having a similar large share would ruin the game but nothing big ever came of it. I imagine all that will come from this is collabs with Disney IPs happening a bit more often
sick of people saying fortnite has lost its identity, yeah, obviously, that's growth, that's marketing, that's called being a successful company it doesn't make the game worse to play, unless your one of the fun police who don't play during events
“Doesn’t make the game worst to play” most if not all the crazy broken items to ever be added to the lootpool have been crossover weapons. They’re actively changing the feel of the game.
Loved this video Layo! Collabs definitely do bring new people to Fortnite and get them hooked! However I don't get as excited when a new collab drop as it's like 'when's the next collab?' ❤
the way i view collabs is they spice up the season admittingly i did not play the marvel season as i started playing in ch 4 but i got interested due to the original ip skins the collabs are salt on the meal while the original skins and story are the main course.
I think most of the collaborations are fine. They can be more fun because sometimes they add more missions. They haven't really added alot if tasks to do in the game that evolve around the story. Also in the battle pass they only really add a couple a season. More of the skins are originals. They do have quite a few in the store but they are fairly expensive if you want all of them. They are optional.
I don't think they ruin fortnite, I missed since ch3s3 and the TMNT Collab is the only reason I came back and enjoy the game again. I dont think fortnite has "lost its identity". The only thing I dont like is how some collab skins are no longer available. My only gripe with the collabs is there are a ton that new players will NEVER be able to get. Like that entire marvel battle pass, Mando, Deadpool, Green Arrow in a fortnite crew pack, etc. I just think the collabs need to always have a chance to be available
In my opinion, sometimes. I think there should be REFERENCES to other things but having cartoon styled goku in the same fight as Jonesy is just weird. If there’s going to be a colab atleast do it with things that fit into the Fortnite world… for example the goblin glider.
In my opinion, collabs make and break the game. All the different characters in the game is dope and elevates the game. I say that it also breaks the game, because you have people's favorite characters locked behind a battle pass. Deadpool has been my favorite character since the late 90's but I can't use him because I took a break from the game when he released and didn't find out about him being in the game until it was too late. If you want to make skins rare in a game, don't make those skins collab skins, make them skins that fortnite created.
Fortnite does colabs better than any other game in my opinion, the cosmetics and even gameplay, the spider man webs feel better than most of the offical Spider-Man games where the web swinging was one of the main focuses
Collabs don't ruin Fortnite people just said in the past collabs ruin Fortnite but some collabs change up the gameplay collabs that actually change up the gameplay are really good like the new TMNT event but people likely didn't like collabs because their favorite collab hadn't made it to the game yet collabs actually make people that enjoy those characters released in the collab join the game for them
Disney doing anything has been a bad thing overall for everything. All that we can do now is A) hope disney goes bankrupt (it wont) or B) the damage is relegated to one or 2 separate "experiences" that dont affect the main br Also after the "IH MY GOD ITS PETER GRIFFIN IN FORTNITE!!!" peter just became the worst battle pass skin for me. In my opinion, ch2s2 and ch2s3 did collabs in the battle pass the best, and by that i mean they werent in them. Collabs being only in the item shop or secret skins is the best for both parties
lego, rocket racing and festival certainly did ruin lost of the things i enjoyed from this game, you can thank them for the lack of lore, live events, the new locker, the shit UI, certain items like kratos and more not coming out. as cool as lego is it was not worth the damage. and don't get me started on UEFN...
im aware he games are radically different, but the behaviour that disney dealt to club penguin could easily be attributed to fortnite. if somethings not seen as profitable for the 1000 year old company then it must be true!
fortnite would probably be dead without marvel/starwars let alone how shit chapter 3-4 was the collab skins are what saved the battlepasses fortnites not ruined its on life support
I don't get how ppl have no problem with season but hate s3 like bro i cant fight someone without them flying or throwing mystic bombs or rockets or a shield, this is even more op than s3 but hey still good season so yall should stop disrespecting s3 dummies
I love the collabs however I do DESPISE the fact that many iconic collab characters are locked to limited time battle passes. The fact that new players who are also fans of say Star Wars, can never play as Darth Vader, the face of Star Wars, is really stupid. Epic needs to start adopting battle passes that don’t expire or stop putting collab skins as tier 100 items. Some of the original high tier battle pass skins are some of the best in the game such as ageless, spectra knight or omegarok. Can we get more skins like that?
YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT REPRESENTING THE FORTNITE FURRY SKINS AND FURRY COMMUNITY MORE IN YOUR VIDEO (i used code layo1 you have to make a video on furries)
I don’t think collabs ruin Fortnite but Fortnite should stay with its DNA and Identity.
Not sûre why people liked ch4s2
@@willg1088 Fun, AOT, Havoc pump, content, new motorcycle, need i say more? Oh and it was ch4 which was fun in general (minus s3)
Fortnite obviously tried to change its identity after Chapter 1 , it went from competitive building battle royale with goofy cartoon skins , to a social battle royal in which every single ip is in
it just works on fortnite cuz thats what they are known for
now games like call of duty thats just an identity crisis
Willig1088 shut up it was amazing
It does stick to its dna though, it’s identity isn’t it’s skins it’s the fact that it’s a battle royale with building mechanic and a cartoon esc art style
Epic and Disney are no different. they’re both greedy. It’s true that Disney makes unoriginal remakes to make money, and that’s exactly what epic does with their collabs. They rely on the community to make modes, thrive off of collabs in the item shop, and so far Chapter 5 has been one big ad
These are all my thoughts in one comment
oh no!!! it's almost like they are a company!!! and need to make money to survive and pay employees!!! oh nooooo!!!
@@jibaZoomi My brother, Epic is not struggling
exactly, that's a good thing@@Oscarilainen
Let’s be real epic does not RELY on the community made maps, they make enough money off BR and the main modes that they don’t need community made maps to begin with
The good thing with Disney is that it’s only 10% so they are not going to make the decisions for everything more so relegated to their own mode. Also Disney would not stop collaborations with other companies as it’s only 10% but also I like to think they arnt so stupid as to turn down free money as I bet they want Batman in the game as it’s just free money. Also I doubt they would step in to make no changes as them not being the majority shareholder can let them be laughed out of a conference room if they don’t want guns in the game or some shit like that it’s more so they just own a chunk of the company and can put their characters in the game
One thing I don’t like about collabs is how sometimes Epic can make a trash battle pass, but as long as they put one good collab, people will still buy it
there hasn’t been an item shop this season without a collab skin in the shop
Wrong , i actually went back and checked and the ONLY item shop withouth any collabs (not counting the cars cuz idk if they are a brand or not) was on december 7th exacly 2 days before the weeknd arrived 1 day after slim shady left and 1 day before the rocket racing cars arrived
@@Findingusernamesishard I think it's pretty obvious he was exaggerating
he was most likely not but still ONLY A SINGLE DAY DIDNT HAVE A COLLAB SKIN
THATS KINDA DEPRESSING like we get a collab skin every day for 3 months but not any old icon emotes since dec 5 th ;-;@@Disco1211
the witcher skins where here
I’m fine with collabs, but it’s ridiculous how they implement a Collab in EVERY BATTLE PASS now
Or make a whole season a marvel collab. Hate that shi
in my opinion i ADORE collabs, bro when peter dropped it was the most surreal thing they've done
Is bro saying he creamed his pants for Peter Griffin in Fortnite💀
Like i lovee crossovers since i was a kid and seeing this game become a metaverse thing is so awesome
I agree, I absolutely loved c2 s5
Not in my case, when I saw Peter on the Battlepass I skipped that season entirely because, IDK, it felt like it was too much and he ruined the pass for me. I kind of regret it now because I didn't got the Hope and Agent Jones skin
I don't think Collabs ruin Fortnite, I think the game even more fun to play because you can play as a character from a TV show or a movie which adds more flavor and variety to the game, I think the game benefited a lot from adding these since a lot of people start playing the game due to collabs, I've heard a few people say they started playing this new chapter because of the Peter Griffin Skin so it shows that they're doing something right
Haven't watched the vid yet, but figured I'd give my thoughts so far first and edit it later after I've watched the vid.
I don't think the collabs on their own are the issue, I think it's how they've become so central to the game that is the issue. Collabs used to be a fun surprise and not something that would happen everyday. Every battlepass was unique and you never knew what to expect till the next season because they were all fully original. Nowadays they're everywhere and included in every battlepass. It's to much, it ruins the point of a collab as a special event and ruins everything else by detracting from the genuinely creative and unique parts of the game like the original character skins. Part of what made the first chapter so popular was the cool original skins. Omega and The Reaper and iconic and beloved by fans and are all but mascots for fortnite. Now the mascot is whatever crossover skin guest stars in the battlepass that they use as the face of the game and it just isn't the same. Not to mention the shop. We have 2k+ outfits in the game and the majority are original designs, but you'll never see them cause the shop is filled every day with collab after collab after collab.
Update: Watched the vid and you have some good points. That being said my stance really isn't altered that much. Disney doesn't seem to be holding them back to much, they literally had a fallout collab so the disney being to soft doesn't seem to have been to bad. I still stand by that the problem is frequency of collabs not the collabs themselves.
Imo the thing where they would put iconic dances in the game and replace the music with their own original one was actually really cool and a subtle wacky way to have pop culture references that still fit in with the original style of the game
Well they stopped doing that because they were getting in trouble especially with the fresh emote and default dance when they got sued for it, so it kinda makes sense why they would want to avoid doing the subtle references and just out right buy the rights to it
@@F1_soap yeah that is actually a very valid point, I never really considered it as a copyright bypassing thing and more as them doing it as a reference, but yeah def makes more sense to just buy it and avoid that whole situation
I like collabs as they can be stupidly funny. Though It definitely changes focus from one of my favorite aspects of the game: the lore. I would want the collabs to be entwined with the lore more, or at least dropped in favor of making a good storyline for the seasons.
I REALLY like collab skins, but I'm really not a fan of when it overtakes br, something like the metal gear box is funny and harmless enough, but swapping half the loot pool for avatar for a month was not
Imo c2s5 collabs were mostly fine with the multiversal bounty hunting theme. Outside a few exceptions like antman, flash, tron skins etc. a fair amount were the type of characters that would be a good pick to yoink as a bounty hunter.
Ellen ripley makes sense, xenomorph got sucked in with her, a predator makes sense, master chief makes sense. It's the kind of season where collabs make sense with the theme. And they had a bunch of bounty hunter skins introduced in the season too outside the battlepass
Collaboration aren’t what make Fortnite good but they are a important aspect to the storyline
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why is everyone acting like disney owns epic? it's 10%! they get to vote in the company and that's about it, and it's not like the other companies and individuals with shares are going to give them up
I remember there was some worry earlier in the game's lifespan that Tencent having a similar large share would ruin the game but nothing big ever came of it. I imagine all that will come from this is collabs with Disney IPs happening a bit more often
sick of people saying fortnite has lost its identity, yeah, obviously, that's growth, that's marketing, that's called being a successful company
it doesn't make the game worse to play, unless your one of the fun police who don't play during events
“Doesn’t make the game worst to play” most if not all the crazy broken items to ever be added to the lootpool have been crossover weapons. They’re actively changing the feel of the game.
Loved this video Layo! Collabs definitely do bring new people to Fortnite and get them hooked! However I don't get as excited when a new collab drop as it's like 'when's the next collab?' ❤
Collabs as fortnite practically
I personally miss the original fortnite stuff alot
Say what you will, but I will always marvel at the fact a team could be formed comprised of Peter Griffin, The Predator, Indiana jones, and the Hulk.
the way i view collabs is they spice up the season admittingly i did not play the marvel season as i started playing in ch 4 but i got interested due to the original ip skins the collabs are salt on the meal while the original skins and story are the main course.
I think most of the collaborations are fine. They can be more fun because sometimes they add more missions. They haven't really added alot if tasks to do in the game that evolve around the story.
Also in the battle pass they only really add a couple a season. More of the skins are originals. They do have quite a few in the store but they are fairly expensive if you want all of them. They are optional.
Tbh, I love collabs in Fortnite but they distract from the original skins.
If u don’t like the collabs don’t buy the skin 💀. It’s a chance to use your favorite movie or show character in game. Idk what’s bad abt that
hes not saying collabs r bad what r u on 😭
Some collab are great like star wars, Marvel… but some are useless and bring nothing to the BR and no one ask for, like the jone cena skin, or more
I agree it is cool to play as a star wars character but playing as Mickey mouse is a stupid idea.
I asked for John Cena.
I don't think they ruin fortnite, I missed since ch3s3 and the TMNT Collab is the only reason I came back and enjoy the game again.
I dont think fortnite has "lost its identity". The only thing I dont like is how some collab skins are no longer available. My only gripe with the collabs is there are a ton that new players will NEVER be able to get. Like that entire marvel battle pass, Mando, Deadpool, Green Arrow in a fortnite crew pack, etc. I just think the collabs need to always have a chance to be available
At first it was kinda of out of place but now that we are so accustomed to it collabs kinda make fortnite fresh
In my opinion, sometimes. I think there should be REFERENCES to other things but having cartoon styled goku in the same fight as Jonesy is just weird. If there’s going to be a colab atleast do it with things that fit into the Fortnite world… for example the goblin glider.
My brother thinks so, but the idiot keeps buying collab stuff
Hopefully Disney doesn’t turn Fortnite into a commercial hub like Club Penguin.
I like collab skins, but I dont like when they force collabs into the story and map. Thats my thoughts on it
In my opinion, collabs make and break the game. All the different characters in the game is dope and elevates the game. I say that it also breaks the game, because you have people's favorite characters locked behind a battle pass. Deadpool has been my favorite character since the late 90's but I can't use him because I took a break from the game when he released and didn't find out about him being in the game until it was too late. If you want to make skins rare in a game, don't make those skins collab skins, make them skins that fortnite created.
Fortnite does colabs better than any other game in my opinion, the cosmetics and even gameplay, the spider man webs feel better than most of the offical Spider-Man games where the web swinging was one of the main focuses
Collabs don't ruin Fortnite people just said in the past collabs ruin Fortnite but some collabs change up the gameplay collabs that actually change up the gameplay are really good like the new TMNT event but people likely didn't like collabs because their favorite collab hadn't made it to the game yet collabs actually make people that enjoy those characters released in the collab join the game for them
Disney doing anything has been a bad thing overall for everything. All that we can do now is A) hope disney goes bankrupt (it wont) or B) the damage is relegated to one or 2 separate "experiences" that dont affect the main br
Also after the "IH MY GOD ITS PETER GRIFFIN IN FORTNITE!!!" peter just became the worst battle pass skin for me. In my opinion, ch2s2 and ch2s3 did collabs in the battle pass the best, and by that i mean they werent in them. Collabs being only in the item shop or secret skins is the best for both parties
Yes and No Collabs are basically to much of a good thing
If done right it would save the season
Like ch3 dbz and ch5 tmnt
I liked how they brought the tmnt mythic half way through the season bc if it was there from the start it would have been boring for me
I don’t mind crossovers but they rely too heavily on them
Collabs are good its just the mythics they add with it that make it suck
The trailer is so cool and chill
bro your such an underated youtuber idk how you havent blown up yet
lego, rocket racing and festival certainly did ruin lost of the things i enjoyed from this game, you can thank them for the lack of lore, live events, the new locker, the shit UI, certain items like kratos and more not coming out. as cool as lego is it was not worth the damage. and don't get me started on UEFN...
Used to be bad, now it’s good
nah the gb reference goes hard i love this channel
Mogul Master is in the shop today. It's not Alpine Ace, but it's his female counterpart. A good sign, maybe?
epic original skins are still pretty good and all but I love playing as the turtles and a rat
ur vids are getting better ill def use ur code next time i log on
im aware he games are radically different, but the behaviour that disney dealt to club penguin could easily be attributed to fortnite. if somethings not seen as profitable for the 1000 year old company then it must be true!
that intro was amazing.
fortnite would probably be dead without marvel/starwars let alone how shit chapter 3-4 was the collab skins are what saved the battlepasses fortnites not ruined its on life support
thanks for another edge🙏🙏
But will this affect Jerkmate Servers?
Nah master chief never will ruin fornite
not at all tho. it gets old players to return weekly.
I don't get how ppl have no problem with season but hate s3 like bro i cant fight someone without them flying or throwing mystic bombs or rockets or a shield, this is even more op than s3 but hey still good season so yall should stop disrespecting s3 dummies
Nah Yuji's a Goat
bro your username 🤣
@@ScrappyJin Just something i look up every day ngl
You make me subscribe
TLDR: No.
fortnite now is what i call "identity crisis: the game" (not hate)
no they don't, Fortnite would've died in 2019 if not for collabs
No.
Collabs suck, go back to ur roots epic!
Yes
No they don't
Nah Kathleen Kennedy is gonna gayify Fortnite and make it so every single skin has to be diverse in some way
But a buzz light year skin would go hard
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I love the collabs however I do DESPISE the fact that many iconic collab characters are locked to limited time battle passes. The fact that new players who are also fans of say Star Wars, can never play as Darth Vader, the face of Star Wars, is really stupid. Epic needs to start adopting battle passes that don’t expire or stop putting collab skins as tier 100 items. Some of the original high tier battle pass skins are some of the best in the game such as ageless, spectra knight or omegarok. Can we get more skins like that?
Nah
The old og Fortnite skins looked awful lol
Incorrect
@@Gavblox they did lol
@@manicstatic370 what one
@@Gavblox pretty much all of the female ones
@@manicstatic370 what do you consider to be og because I don’t consider peely ice king or drift to be bad skins
YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT REPRESENTING THE FORTNITE FURRY SKINS AND FURRY COMMUNITY MORE IN YOUR VIDEO (i used code layo1 you have to make a video on furries)
oh nah 😭
Uhh..
A voice echoes in your head, "There's a time and place for everything"
oh hell nah 😭😭 i hope you’re joking 😭😭
Collabs keep it alive