The Comprehensive Roast of EarthBound Beginnings

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  • A review of the 1989 role playing game EarthBound Beginnings. Or Mother. Or EarthBound Zero. I use those terms interchangeably a lot of the time. It's a game that can be a bit divisive, but I tried to give it a fair shot.
    Chapters:
    Intro: 0:00
    Background Knowledge: 3:08
    Music: 12:46
    Story and Characters: 15:33
    Gameplay: 20:00
    Conclusion: 32:35
    The drawing of Ninten in the video thumbnail was done by GuyWithThePie! Check out his stuff here:
    / guywiththepie
    EarthBound Zero walkthrough:
    walkthrough.starmen.net/earthb...
    Rom hacks:
    www.romhacking.net/forum/inde...
    Patreon: / switch1e
    Twitter: / switch1e_swoof
    #earthbound #mother2 #nintendo
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ความคิดเห็น • 683

  • @AT7outof10
    @AT7outof10 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1144

    The real reason Nintendo hasn't released Mother 3 to the west is because they're waiting for every mother fan to beat Earthbound Beginnings first.

    • @gr8nachos469
      @gr8nachos469 2 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      Well I've done my part

    • @thedipermontshow
      @thedipermontshow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I already did since junior high school, who's left?

    • @mozzeralleh
      @mozzeralleh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Im left, today i will play it.

    • @_timetravels4528
      @_timetravels4528 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I am replaying it without emulator speed up binds on my switch.
      Its now available as a playable game on their NES emulator and its a blast !

    • @SnailTeamStudios
      @SnailTeamStudios 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Right now, Just got the second melody

  • @sillyaxel
    @sillyaxel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +417

    this game is also really cool because you can say "yeah i had to ride a plane 3 times in order to drive a tank through a desert to kill a giant robot guarding a cave full of monkeys" and have that be entirely true

    • @switch1e
      @switch1e  2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Good point

    • @lorenzzzoo
      @lorenzzzoo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Erm actually you have to ride it 4 times ☝️🤓

  • @zennistrad
    @zennistrad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +424

    It's actually funny that you say the game was likely not playtested, because one common story is that the final area, Mt. Itoi, was not playtested _at all_ due to time constraints and the result was the most infamous difficulty spike in the game

    • @Duskool
      @Duskool 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Yeah, it does really feel like it wasn't balanced at all. When i played the gba port, since it was easier, i decided to grind just for fun at Mt. Itoi. I got avobe the 70s in levels, and i remember one wrong move and the party got defeated

    • @Diwasho
      @Diwasho 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      So much for that "Nintendo Seal of Quality". It's probably for the best that EB0 never released on NES, they had time to fix the balance issues while waiting for the localization work to finish but they still fixed nothing for the US market, even knowing full well how hard it is to sell RPGs overseas and how difficult Mother 1 is.

    • @_timetravels4528
      @_timetravels4528 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@Duskool as fun as it is when you feel like battling, that "as soon as you mess up its done"" feeling gets heavy quick with random encounters... I aint even playing and the feeling crawls under my skin

    • @amimm7776
      @amimm7776 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Now that you say it, it almost feels like that area had just tons of game breaking things added to it in an attempt to make it bearable (EVE, the memory chip, the last area has a full heal station just because, sea pendant if you can get farther into it).
      Thank fuck for online maps, and I say this as a Mother 1 apologist.

    • @Johnm.499
      @Johnm.499 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are good and smart to say that, I am happy.

  • @Zorothegallade-gg7zg
    @Zorothegallade-gg7zg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    The four horsemen of Mother 1:
    "The Plasma Beam was broken"
    "[enemy] tried PK Beam γ!"
    "Red Snake ran away..."
    [battle start sound] "Ninten ran away..." [battle start sound] "Ninten ran away..." [battle start sound] "Ninten ran away..."[battle start sound]

  • @AluminumFusion22
    @AluminumFusion22 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Supposedly the reason Miyamoto was unsure about Itoi's intentions about making a video game was due to Takeshi's Challenge, which was infamous due to its deliberately obtuse game design and its primary gimmick being that Takeshi Kitano wrote a majority of the game's ideas while drinking at a bar.

    • @isauldron4337
      @isauldron4337 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Takeshi also didn't like gamers and wanted to encourage them to do something else

  • @cannonballking7
    @cannonballking7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +229

    Even if it is rough around the edges, it is still worth playing maybe with a couple mods installed. At least it's still one of a kind in the world of gaming, and gave rise to one of the best trilogies of all time.
    Thank you for doing this, for one of the lesser talked about games. You gave it a fair shot and your points were valid and well put. Keep up the good work and have a nice day.

    • @switch1e
      @switch1e  2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Thank you for the very kind comment!

    • @Alicesn1fan
      @Alicesn1fan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      question - what mods r suggested to be used? ive watched someone play earthbound before, but i never played beginnings / zero. (aware i am late by 2 years but i am curious)

    • @cannonballking7
      @cannonballking7 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Alicesn1fan I would look into one of the hacks which include the "easy ring" which I feel is by far the best way of playing the title as it makes there less enemies who give more experience, leading to a fairer and more enjoyable time for those wanting to get in.
      If not MOTHER 25th anniversary is a very solid hack as well but I would say is worth trying on it's own as a compare and contrast, as that original style is something incredible.
      Hope this helps and that you can have a fun time :)

    • @Alicesn1fan
      @Alicesn1fan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cannonballking7 Thank you !!!

    • @voltron77
      @voltron77 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, no mods, the best way to play it is on nso.

  • @bunlj9404
    @bunlj9404 2 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    Even with a lot of poor game mechanic and limitation, Earthbound Beginnings is still my favourite game from the Mother trilogy. Earthbound and Mother 3 are a really good game, it just they all have different feels. Mother 3 feels somber, not in a bad way but it's focusing on the tragic aspect where the characters have to move on. Earthbound feels quirky, it's focusing on the fun and chosen one plot to safe the world. While Earthbound Beginnings feels simple, it doesn't has the best story nor gameplay, yet the simplicity make it unique in the way I feel nostalgic, even tho I didn't grow up with the series and just find it during my teenage years. And this is just my bias for grinding, so I'm not annoyed with the random encounter, instead I love it! I agree that the map is very annoying, the first time I play it I got lost to Youngtown, which is close to the end game contain with only Ninten and Lloyd in my party! But at least I got teleport and make it easier to traveling around the map.
    Thank you for covering Earthbound Beginnings, it's kinda rare to see someone reviewing this game, especially in 2021, after 32 years since it come out. Please continue your good job!

    • @switch1e
      @switch1e  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you, I am glad you liked the video

  • @uzmk_mato
    @uzmk_mato 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    this video singlehandedly manifested the switch release
    i just beat eb0 today and i think i like it almost as much as mother 3 which is my favorite game of all time

    • @uzmk_mato
      @uzmk_mato 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      funny enough i've given up on earthbound several times because it got too frustrating/difficult

    • @U-PN-BI-IBW
      @U-PN-BI-IBW 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@uzmk_matowhat section was too difficult?

  • @pulsar2049
    @pulsar2049 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    In my playthrough, I got lucky and managed to reach podunk with no random encounters.
    But then I went to merrysville and got an encounter every 3 seconds.

  • @monopolyrubix1875
    @monopolyrubix1875 2 ปีที่แล้ว +218

    This is an excellent video. The grinding montage and the Wally joke killed me.
    It's so nice hearing someone give this game a fair chance. Most video reviews I've seen on this game are from people who really want to review Mother 2 and 3 and only review Mother out of a sense of obligation. This review had insightful thoughts to share and I appreciate that you did more than just tear into the dated aspects of the game. They're important, but not the whole story.
    Mother is my favorite entry in the series. It has my favorite story and I like the simplicity of the game.
    The first playthrough can be rough. But it's the type of game that gets better every time you play it. Once you know where to go and how to succeed at the battle system, it becomes a very quick and streamlined experience. And you can play it a bit differently every time; I've beaten the game without Ana, I've beaten the game with Teddy, I've beaten the game skipping Teddy entirely, I've beaten the game by going to Youngtown before Halloween, I've beaten the game going to Halloween before Youngtown, I've beaten the game without the train, I've been to the monkey caves, I've skipped the monkey caves, etc., etc.. There's an element of open-endedness and player choice that is unique in the series and I appreciate it for it.
    For the record at 35:37 I didn't think you were a pussy. Disliking high learning curves and at times unfair gameplay is valid. Though if I have to be elitist about something... When enemies use Beam Gamma it's less of a "fuck you" spell and more of a "fuck me" spell.
    They only appear after Duncan's factory, and if you get the second Franklin Badge there, they have only a 1/3 chance to kill one of your party members but a 2/3 chance of killing themselves. ;)

    • @ItsFelix112
      @ItsFelix112 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      those jokes killed me too

    • @switch1e
      @switch1e  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@ItsFelix112 what jokes did you like?

    • @ItsFelix112
      @ItsFelix112 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@switch1e grinding montage, wally, people screaming over pong, and the lamp one

    • @switch1e
      @switch1e  2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      thanks, i was curious whether people would like that stuff

    • @ItsFelix112
      @ItsFelix112 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@switch1e I also liked the "Sonia" joke

  • @codenamexelda
    @codenamexelda 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The virgin: earthbound beginnings
    The chad: mother encore

  • @ProjectTony
    @ProjectTony 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    I think Chuggaconroy was right about this game that the more you replay it the better it gets. I've played through mother 1 three times since it was released on the wii u and each time I had more and more fun with the game. The grinding and high encounter rate suck though. My advice is to abuse save states regularly.

    • @megatennepster3833
      @megatennepster3833 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I honestly feel like if the encounter Rte was halved and the exp rate doubled to compensate, the game wouldn't be the "Well it has aged poorly" game it is considered now

    • @joaonitro5149
      @joaonitro5149 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@megatennepster3833 There are hacks that do that, but redesigning the enemies stats would be more useful than simply making you have more exp at less time.

  • @nessdbest8708
    @nessdbest8708 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    18:38 LMAO! How have I never thought about that?! Ninten literally teamed up with a school shooter

  • @khaj214
    @khaj214 2 ปีที่แล้ว +144

    As a *MAJOR* Mother 1 fan I really do appreciate this video although I disagree with you at some parts you make really good points. Mother 1 is indeed a masterpiece with its story, music, and characters. The only thing is that the game was being held back a bit due to the NES' limited hardware and Itoi's small knowledge of creating video games at the time of making Mother 1. I think some people need to realize this was Itoi's first time making a video game and for his first time its an amazing work of art. Mother 1 is one of those games that 100% deserve a Remake some time in the future. I've seen people begging for a Mother 2 Remake all the time, but think to yourself do you think Mother 2 *deserves* a remake. I'm not saying Mother 2's a bad game not at all. That's actually the main reason it doesn't need a remake due to it already being a good game that doesn't really have too many problems caused by aging (well there are some such as the lack of running and for some odd reason even though it wasn't in Mother 1 the addition of making equipped items stay in your inventory slot instead of just staying in ur equip slot without "wasting" a space in your inventory.) and like the saying goes "If it aint broke, don't fix it." Mother 1 on the other hand has an amazing story to tell but it can't really do it that well due to the limited hardware it was on. In my opinion Mother 1's protagonists are *WAY* more fleshed out than Mother 2's. Every protagonist in Mother 1 has a reason for going on this grand adventure unlike Mother 2's:
    *Ninten* - Related in some way shape or form to the main threat/ villain (can't explain how or why cause spoilers)
    *Lloyd* - Ninten becomes his only friend and homies stick together (Its also explained in the Mother 1's Novelization Adaptation that Lloyd's Mother is deathly ill with an disease and the only way to cure the illness is a specific flower in Youngtown, but take the novel being canon or not as you will)
    *Ana* - Mother goes missing and joins Ninten and Lloyd in hopes of finding her lost Mother on their adventure
    *Teddy* - (This one is super cliche, but) Parents were killed by aliens on Mt Itoi and wants to join Ninten on their trek to Mt Itoi to avenge his parents
    Mother 2 on the other hand throws all of that out the window and just goes with the cliche over done "Chosen One" and destined to save the world or something approach. Even with outside media of Mother 1 such a the Guide Manual that came with the official Japanese release of Mother 1 and the Mother Encylopedia Book helps flesh out the world by telling each towns population. Protagonists everyday life, and other little tidbits and information that really gets the player to understand and connect to the world of Mother 1 even better. (Fun Fact: Lloyd is canonically a Mac Users), but yeah Mother 2 may have the more fleshed out gameplay and humor but the game aint got shit on Mother 1 with Story and Characters

    • @switch1e
      @switch1e  2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      I'd disagree with that on some levels. Although the Mother characters have more defined motivations, they are not really established to any meaningful extent in the game's dialogue. Teddy tells you once that he wants to join you to climb Mt. Itoi (somehow he knows that you are going there) and that's that. Lloyd tells you he's bullied and asks you for some stuff and then joins you.
      I mean, it was a NES RPG, so it wasn't particularly dialogue-driven or text heavy, but for the most part, in game, they craft the established personality of the party members in one or two sentences and never focus on it again.
      You are right that the characters are built on in supplemental material, but I just don't think Mother is doing anything that much more impressive than EarthBound with its characters.
      And besides, EarthBound and Mother aren't character-driven games, anyway. It doesn't really matter much to me.

    • @switch1e
      @switch1e  2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      And also I agree that EarthBound should not be remade. Even if Shigesato Itoi was involved. I have no faith that they won't ruin the art style

    • @khaj214
      @khaj214 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@switch1e I mean ofcourse an NES game can't go into full detail with personality or story due to limited storage and hardware. That's the exact reason the Mother 1 Novel Adaptation, Mother 1 Guide Manual, and the Mother Encyclopedia was created to tell the players the true intentions and the world of Mother 1 that couldn't be told through an 8-Bit NES Cartridge. This is what I mean by Mother 1 *DESERVES* an remake. An remake of this game will not only help fix the game's outdated gameplay flaws, but also will be able to tell the full story of Mother 1 that was originally trying to be told but in a way failing to be told on the NES

    • @poweroffriendship2.0
      @poweroffriendship2.0 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      There is a Mother 1 remake that is on the works and it's called "Mother Encore".

    • @khaj214
      @khaj214 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@poweroffriendship2.0 MOTHER Encore isn’t a remake it’s a fan reimagining. Encore devs already stated the game isn’t meant to replace the original game. I’ve been seeing Encore progress for about 2 - 3 years so far and it’s coming through nicely but I do have minor issues about that game but nothing that ruins the opinion on it

  • @neketzaanera7737
    @neketzaanera7737 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I played Pong at a museum once and actually got hooked. It's really fun

  • @copperthejackal
    @copperthejackal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +169

    I've gotta say, I ADORE this video. It captures all of my thoughts towards MOTHER perfectly! It's almost like you took the words directly out of my mouth...
    MOTHER has always been my favorite of the series due to it's uniqueness compared to EarthBound or MOTHER 3, and to see someone simultaneously rip this game to SHREDS and praise it's highest point is more then just entertaining to watch. This is a super good video for MOTHER fans. Good job, switch1e!

    • @switch1e
      @switch1e  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thank you so much for your kind words :)

    • @copperthejackal
      @copperthejackal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@switch1e Of course man! Superb work!!

  • @tanookiplayer
    @tanookiplayer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    I played this game after when I played Earthbound on the Wii U & I didn't like the game myself due to those reasons you mentioned. The music though is great for the NES & those live covers are amazing. I constantly listen to Pollyanna.

  • @GameDevYal
    @GameDevYal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    31:00 I know you just blurted that out in frustration, but it's actually true! The dev team ran out of time around the factory dungeon and tested it with invincibility cheats to just make sure the game didn't crash, they didn't have time to test it for balance from that point onwards.

    • @switch1e
      @switch1e  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Interesting! Do you remember where you learned this?

    • @theluiginoidperson1097
      @theluiginoidperson1097 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Im honestly intrigued by the fact they even had the decency to go through it with invincibility to crash-check

  • @kpwu
    @kpwu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    if the grinding is annoying, there's a version of the game on the gba (mother 1+2). the translation of this version adds the easy ring : an item that makes encounters less frequent and gives you more experience, both of these things being ideas you say would make this game better

    • @pyros6139
      @pyros6139 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, I had a lot of fun playing the translated gba version, no complaints!

    • @anomymous1286
      @anomymous1286 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Easy Ring hack ruins the game.

    • @kpwu
      @kpwu 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@anomymous1286 it's an error to think you miss anything by putting on the easy ring lol
      i've played the game multiple times without the easy ring, and it's a sludge of grinding for levels for ages, coupled with huge dungeons which have no real goal except annoy the player. personally i do like it, but mother 1 doesn't have good gameplay.
      it doesn't really ruin the game, since there isn't really a game in the first place. the story is the best thing about the game, and gatekeeping people who want to see that story for themselves but don't want to put up with hours of needless grinding will accomplish nothing

  • @sparkmann
    @sparkmann 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I literally just finished earthbound beginnings so im kinda excited to see this

    • @friends4evrr
      @friends4evrr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      thoughts, did you grind to deal with all the enemies ?

  • @CallMeLethano
    @CallMeLethano 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    i never knew too much about mother 1, but i'd heard the "no crying until the end" quote in mother 3. neat to know it's a reference to the original!
    now i'm kinda interested in playing this, too. i always loved the story in these games, and i think i can push myself through the more primitive gameplay.
    fuckin nice video, keep it up :)

    • @imwastedhere
      @imwastedhere 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It's not as bad once you play the game enough times

    • @MyUncleWorksForNintendo
      @MyUncleWorksForNintendo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      There's some old rom hacks that make the game a bit less tedious by lowering random encounters and raising EXP gain and stuff. I recommend giving one of those a try

  • @Lute01
    @Lute01 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    cool video man. earthbound zero was actually the first mother game that i played, and i'm definitely biased because of it but i think it's definitely overhated and misunderstood. it's insane that they made an RPG this compelling and unique on the famicom, it's genuinely a work of art and even though its sequels are more fleshed out in almost every way, i find earthbound zero to be uniquely charming. thanks for your hard work, this is a fun video : )

  • @_hyva_
    @_hyva_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Wish I could listen to Pollyanna more often, but I cry every time I hear it
    I first heard the song during a terrible part of my life, and as corny as the lyrics may be to some, they were just what I needed at the time
    Sometimes I need to hear the song to cheer me up, remind me that in a world of miracles, what's to say I can't pull one off myself?
    If I ever have kids, I'll be singing that song to them as their lullaby, even if I sob my way through it

    • @switch1e
      @switch1e  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      D'aww, that's a really sweet story. I don't know if my relationship with the song is as heavy, but it still is so cherished to me and I could totally cry to it in the early morning, lol

    • @bohnzo473
      @bohnzo473 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are are kinda like giygas if you think deep enough

    • @AlfurAldric2211
      @AlfurAldric2211 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bohnzo473 Hol' up
      OH NO.

  • @juanrodriguez9971
    @juanrodriguez9971 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I always found it weird how people would refer to M1 as game that was way too hard and was skipped by everyone, because is my personal favorite of the trilogy, later I discovered that the reason why I didn't have a terrible experience with it was because the edition I played was the GBA port which was also a hack room since it included the "Easy Ring" and my mind didn't process it as "Easy Mode", reason why I could actually enjoy the game and have some moments stuck in my heart like stone.
    Thanks to whoever made that hackroom, you allowed me to have a wonderful experience with the game even with it's flaws (I didn't find the zoo with the singing bird at first, didn't know what to do for a while lol)

  • @mitchlmitten5874
    @mitchlmitten5874 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    The pong analogy is actually a really good way to explain why historical context matters in criticism, well done

  • @nuggetdotjpeg
    @nuggetdotjpeg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    currently suffering through this game, nice review
    several nuggets/10

  • @goldenphonautogram6141
    @goldenphonautogram6141 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Mother 1 was my first experience with the series. I absolutely loved it.

    • @switch1e
      @switch1e  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nice! I'm glad you enjoyed it

  • @ElFreakinCid
    @ElFreakinCid ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Additional fun fact about Itoi: He's the voice of Satsuki and Mei's dad in My Neighbour Totoro.

  • @crashban4t.f.s.b783
    @crashban4t.f.s.b783 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Itoi said that you could say that Ninten and Ness are the same person if you want. He made it so you could choose if he is.

  • @TaleOfTheToaster
    @TaleOfTheToaster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This was a bit bloody good Kyle!! Told a proper story and I learned tons. I’m never ever gonna play Mother 1 so I needed this for sure

  • @Number_27
    @Number_27 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I have similar feelings to Mother 1. I played it after Earthbound and Mother 3, and it really was hard to get into. Objectively, it's really rough and dated. Random encounters annoyed the hell out of me, the grinding got ridiculous at times, the story only really kicked in at the end, and I had to use a guide for some of the melodies because of the lack of direction. But at the same time, I can't help but love the game. It surprised me how much from the game influenced Earthbound, like the music and the characters. And I just have a soft spot for this series. The themes of moving on and love that are hidden in the story and tiny details are great and the ending just makes me so happy. I love Ninten's connection to the party members, it felt deeper and more genuine to me than Ness' bonds with the Earthbound crew. The music was great, especially in some areas like Snowman. Overall while the gameplay is dated and frustrating, the game as an overall package is still something special and I'm thankful it started possibly my favorite video game franchise of all time, Mother.

  • @RushStudios101
    @RushStudios101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think the craziest thing about MOTHER is that it's actually fairly forgiving compared to its contemporaries, but only the best games of this era really entered into the greater pop-cultural subconscious, so it's not remembered as positively as it really should be. Next to the Dragon Quests and Final Fantasies, sure, it's a bit weak, but compared to the many other 8-bit RPGs of the time it's an absolute star. Crazy how far we've come.

  • @emiliocamarillo1515
    @emiliocamarillo1515 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So excited. You’ve easily become one of my favorite TH-camrs. Always tune in for anything you have😆

  • @AnimalCrosser53
    @AnimalCrosser53 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This reminds me so much of a TH-cam video I would watch when I was super into the MOTHER series... thank you for making me so nostalgic, even if just for a short time! Great review, too. Can't remember the last time I saw such a comprehensive deep dive of MOTHER 1.

  • @rukaruka6393
    @rukaruka6393 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I played this game just two years ago, going into not knowing anything. I’ve played some of Earthbound when I was younger, and watched a play through of Mother 3. Even though there is not much to the story and gameplay, I’m surprised by how much I enjoyed it. Hearing the opening screen and 8 melodies just gives me chills when I listen to them. The game somewhat gives me those 80s movies vibe.

  • @ItsFelix112
    @ItsFelix112 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Even though Earthbound Beginnings is my 2nd favourite game of all time, and my favourite Mother game, your criticism is pretty true

    • @switch1e
      @switch1e  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks for your open mind! And yeah, I have a lot of admiration for this game, and I’d still say I like it. I suppose this video is like, “tough love”

  • @brandongrotha7508
    @brandongrotha7508 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I actually enjoy beginnings. Not knowing where the melodies are without a guide is frustrating but otherwise it reminds me of first generation pokemon games. Go from town to town. Turn based combat. Buy items to aid you. Even the sprite and art design are very reminiscent of those games to me

    • @switch1e
      @switch1e  ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm glad you like it! Honestly since making this video the game as a whole has grown on me a lot. I can definitively say now that I think it's pretty great even if it's pretty punishing to go in without a guide or something.

  • @falchionofeternity433
    @falchionofeternity433 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love EarthBound Beginnings so much, I decided to try to recreate the soundtrack.
    It might not be the most exciting game with the high encounter rate, but it is a very charming game. And I enjoy every minute of it. :)

  • @djinnspalace2119
    @djinnspalace2119 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    i love the part in pong where the right pong said: "its pong time" before beating the opponent. its one of the moments in gaming history.

  • @fuzzoven
    @fuzzoven 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I am happily subscribing after watching this. Everything about this is awesome and your taste in music rules - dropping Sweet Trip and Built to Spill on those transitions was kick ass.
    Mother is my favorite game series and this is a well deserved roast. In the words of Jeff Ross, “we have to roast the ones we love”. You nailed it.

    • @switch1e
      @switch1e  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Awesome! Thank you! I hope you enjoy my content
      Also yeah, Sweet Trip and Built to Spill are my life

  • @jumpy428
    @jumpy428 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this might be your best video so far, great work

  • @provingarchieology9253
    @provingarchieology9253 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Honestly, this video opened my eyes as to what a Earthbound Beginning's "remake" would do for Nintendo.
    They would just need to fix the issues as mentioned in the video (it would be nice if they remade it similar to the style of Link's Awakening for Switch imo) and this would be a nice way to get something Earthbound related on Switch. The pricing might be a whole different story though (hopefully not).

  • @sillyaxel
    @sillyaxel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    there is something about mother that makes it so lovable regardless of its flaws. im not really a fan of old school rpgs or many rpgs in general but this series has a charm to it that just makes me adore playing them. i agree with what you said about the game, the overworld is too big and the encounter rate is painful, but the npcs, the characters, and the final battle really makes the game worth playing. also, incase you didn't know, in magicant you can buy something called the "repel ring" for i believe $160 which will limit encounters for a little bit and give a break from the tedious battles. and if ana is level 9-10 she can cast psi shield beta in the final battle which will make all damage halved so you can beat the game without having to grind to high levels for the end :)

    • @switch1e
      @switch1e  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh yeah the final battle is easy as hell

  • @Stelios78910
    @Stelios78910 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    3:05 only switch1e could pull off Peter griffin straight into John Lennon

    • @switch1e
      @switch1e  ปีที่แล้ว

      You always notice the best details

  • @heckincat1406
    @heckincat1406 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like to interpret the melodies as The Golden Ratio from SBR. It's exclusive tones of music that can be found anywhere, but it has to be recognized by skilled people. This explains the bonkers locations the melodies are found in.

  • @JordanBarclay
    @JordanBarclay ปีที่แล้ว +1

    21:15 is easily accomplishable if you frequently go back to your mom for your favorite food, and once you’re level 4 (shouldn’t take more than 15 minutes) it’s easy to make it to podunk.
    Phenomenal video btw!

  • @aboxyguy
    @aboxyguy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really enjoyed the video! Such good production and editing. I stopped playing around Mother around the graveyard section just cause I got too busy, this makes me wanna plug in my wii u again

    • @switch1e
      @switch1e  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you boxy :3

    • @Goodsuh
      @Goodsuh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well, I hope you got a switch with online now

    • @aboxyguy
      @aboxyguy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Goodsuh YEAH BABBYYY

  • @lauraluvbi
    @lauraluvbi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    omg it's always so good to find a new youtube channel, i'm loving yours already!

    • @switch1e
      @switch1e  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tysm :)

  • @Star-ie8br
    @Star-ie8br 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is lovely! I also enjoyed the song choices you used!!

  • @troywright359
    @troywright359 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I disagree that the beginning is the worst, later on gets so monotonous. after the robot dies, you can be wiped out over and over having to make your way back again and again

    • @JesusJavierAmaviscaValenzuela
      @JesusJavierAmaviscaValenzuela 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Mt Itoi is freaking hard

    • @aspeckinthegrandschemeofth3457
      @aspeckinthegrandschemeofth3457 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mt. Itoi is easily the worst part of the game. The maps are large with few rewards, the enemies range from obnoxious and time-consuming to infuriatingly difficult, and you have to go through it twice! Thankfully, the music is decent, Giegue's encounter is stellar, and there's a free healer halfway through. But still, it's a disappointment both to what came before and after.
      EVE is really damn cool though.

    • @nectarium8760
      @nectarium8760 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aspeckinthegrandschemeofth3457 4th-D slip is your best friend in mt itoi

  • @MikeyLORR
    @MikeyLORR ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just finished playing Mother 25th Anniversary Edition and this was a great video. Went over a lot of things I didn't like about the game but highlighted the reasons I kept playing. Great job!

  • @bryanderewonko4882
    @bryanderewonko4882 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So I wanted to address the difficulty of the beginning of the game. I just completed this recently, and grinding for sure is needed at many points of the game including the beginning.
    I played this on the Nintendo Switch online, not sure how much has been changed from this version compared to the one you played through. One thing you didn't mention was back at the house. One of your sisters gives you Orange juice, and you can keep talking to her and get more until your maxed out. Doing that in combination of grinding a little bit in the basement before leaving the house, will really make the trek to Podunk much more manageable.
    One thing I noticed that both in Mother and Earthbound, both games seem much harder in the early phases. Before you get more characters to attack and absorb damage. Once you get those characters, (and level them up to something useful) it gets easier. In many people's 1st playthroughs, Peaceful rest valley was a real challenge.

  • @mangooleh
    @mangooleh ปีที่แล้ว

    Been listening to a ton of Mother soundtracks and I came across this video. Amazing stuff. Thank you.

    • @switch1e
      @switch1e  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @switchfan9471
    @switchfan9471 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Earthbound series is the goat

  • @beatricesanfilippo6925
    @beatricesanfilippo6925 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The story of Ninten and Ana, Ness's parents

  • @amzyoshio5990
    @amzyoshio5990 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    People always talk about the "hardcore grind" of this game, but honestly, there's exactly 2 points where I'd agree with you that grinding is probably nice
    1. Getting Ninten to about LV4 or 5 to properly start to explore Podunk (the starting town)
    2. Leveling Lloyd and Anna to be closer to Ninten's level, since they're at level 1 (Can kill Ninten to do so without buffing him if you want)
    If you simply walk to most places and do most things and fight most battles you encounter, you'll naturally be at level ~26-29 by the time you get to Mt. Itoi, and by that point Anna has access to Power Shield, which reflects all damage (except from the final boss), PSI Freeze Gamma, which drops enemies to 1HP, and Lifeup Pi, which heals everyone at once.
    A much less obvious thing that also helps insanely is getting the TWO Franklin Badges in the game - One for answering Pippi's questions correctly when you find her at the beginning of the game, and one in the godforsaken Duncan's Factory (which I agree is ass). The Franklin Badges directly reflect Beam Gamma (The Fuck You spell), and turn it into a "No, Fuck YOU" spell. You never get a third one, so your third party member (probably Lloyd) is just doomed if they get hit by it, but SuprHealing + PSI Magnet can let you recover easily.
    Take this all with a grain of salt, as I'm definitely one of those older gamers that enjoy old RPGs

    • @switch1e
      @switch1e  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah. Regarding the older gamer part, I feel you. I think in this video I focused a lot on my frustrations as a kid not being used to how older RPG's tend to be a bit obtuse but I didn't really delineate my young frustrations vs. my adult frustrations as clearly as I could have. The only initial big grind is getting Ninten juiced up towards the beginning.
      I honestly had a blast replaying it. Although I sympathize with people who try to play the game completely blind because that is a really heavy ask. Games back then usually expected you to read their manuals and stuff a lot more than modern games do and a lot of essential information is found there.

  • @yt_MLM3
    @yt_MLM3 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi i just discovered this video because well i'm currently searching for mother 1 content
    Honestly my experience with mother 1 is kinda simple: i'm not yet an earthbound or mother 3 fan, but i decided to try and play mother 1 blind, 3 times now. I just gave up because the battles were that frustrating, but i was still curious about it and what it had to offer, so i watched a walkthrough. And i really, really loved it. Idk why but, seeing it be played was so enjoyable, discovering the nice weirdness of its story, of its interactions, of its characters, i just love it. It has a lot of things and tries a lot of things and i love it.
    Thanks for the video, very cool, i'll go try earthbound now.

  • @yoshikoopa9545
    @yoshikoopa9545 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Every comment about this game is so true though, like how the biggest challenge in the game is getting from your house to the first town, it’s so true

    • @imwastedhere
      @imwastedhere 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nah mate mt etoi is the hardest part if your under level the difficulty spike goes up

  • @keenobrown919
    @keenobrown919 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I really love Earthbound Beginnings (though I know it more as Earthbound Zero or "Mother 1"), so much so that it's one of my favorite video games along with Mother 3. I'm really glad you took the time to talk about it, as it's often overlooked in favor of its successors. It's far from perfect, but one thing I think it does well is by having a very compelling atmosphere or "vibe." There's a sense of melancholic anemoia whenever I play. The map and its sense of scale is a big reason for this for me - I have a better sense of being a kid on a continent-trotting adventure than in Earthbound and Mother 3.
    That said, I've never played this game as intended. I really can't argue with you in regards to the gameplay. It's brutal, it's jank, it's downright broken. I highly discourage anyone from playing this game without a mod of some sort - it's really not worth it. Even if you're an ardent believer of playing games as vanilla as possible, doing so with Mother causes more harm than good. Honestly, I don't even think a guide is enough. I highly recommend newcomers to play this on GBA with a translation patch so they can utilize the easy ring. It doesn't make the game a walk in the park, (especially in the late game, you'll still need to rise and grind) but it makes it a lot more manageable and allows you to focus on the atmosphere that's so compelling to me.

  • @Blaineworld
    @Blaineworld 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    when i play simplistic old games like mother 1, i feel inspired because i’m having such fun with this game that would be trivial, technically speaking, to make on modern hardware. i could _genuinely_ make a game like this and bring someone joy with it.

  • @CephalonHQ_
    @CephalonHQ_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As somebody who failed to reach Podunk before putting the game down, while absolutely adoring EarthBound / Mother 3, I sympathise with your struggle. Loved the video, though; the effort that went in here is incredible, as well as the considered thought you put into how to actually assess the game. Definitely subscribing!

  • @trendybrendy4483
    @trendybrendy4483 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I LOVED playing MOTHER 25th Anniversary Edition as my first MOTHER game, so I guess I technically played a remake of this game! It left a good impression, honestly, but I don't exactly recommend it to my friends who have less patience for oldgamey bs

    • @gardenapple
      @gardenapple 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      25th Anniversary Edition is great. Seems like a big problem with the original game is brutal enemy encounters punishing exploration. Anniversary Edition actually made exploring quite fun, and left a good impression on me as the only open-world MOTHER game.

  • @voltron77
    @voltron77 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love earthbound beginnings as much as I love earthbound. Both are masterpieces in my eyes.

  • @N3Selina
    @N3Selina 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    such a good video, it praises its high points but also criticises the low points

    • @switch1e
      @switch1e  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks

  • @CysmaWinheim
    @CysmaWinheim 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice use of Citizens of Earth music in the outro. That was a fun if somewhat flawed game.

  • @bossdoor
    @bossdoor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Just another good video tbh. I know you've expressed some annoyance on twitter with the algorithm and stuff and I totally feel your pain, but I hope you don't let that stop you and that you continue to put good stuff out there.

    • @switch1e
      @switch1e  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you man

  • @ulasgultekin6804
    @ulasgultekin6804 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The thing that pretty much killed the fun was the unbearable enemy encounter rate (i know there's a patched version online). Not including the fact that the said enemies are SUPER hard to beat. I also didn't like the lack of hints or directions (you could really say the same about earthbound) i legit did all the map while being underleveled.

  • @sethrohl1997
    @sethrohl1997 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I really love this game so much. Something about the atmosphere is so enchanting and nostalgic. The soundtrack is so beautiful, and I love the simpler story. Mother 1 may be jankier than sin, but I love it to DEATH. Maybe more than Earthbound, honestly. But definitely not more than 3.

  • @GFCOLCQuote
    @GFCOLCQuote 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This pic goes hard, feel free to set as desktop background.

  • @TequitoClown
    @TequitoClown 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I just finished Mother 1, and you really summarized my mixed feelings on it very well. To put it simply, I absolutely loved it, but I don't think I'll play it again. I think it was worth it, even though I've never played similar older RPGs. The ending was also wonderful and made the experience feel complete in a way.

  • @alleyway_spirit5061
    @alleyway_spirit5061 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A day when switch1e uploads is a good day

  • @roystrong2648
    @roystrong2648 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You deserve far more subscribers than you have I mean that whole-heartedly

  • @iskatetwo
    @iskatetwo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    another great video from the king

  • @wes788411
    @wes788411 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I played Earthbound for the first time in 1999. I had downloaded an emulator for the first time and was going through and playing all my favorite snes games when I saw Earthbound, which I had never heard of. I remember falling in love with it within the first 10 minutes of the game, I couldn’t believe I had never heard of it. I remember playing a few minutes of Zero, but didn’t really give it a chance. There was a company called Time Walk that use to put out quality reproduction carts who did a release of Earthbound Zero. I bought it and have been a fan of the game ever since.

  • @jshrosales
    @jshrosales 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Didn’t think I would listen to “Chocolate Matter” by Sweet Trip in a Mother video, but it was certainly a pleasant surprise. Great video, man! And great taste in music 😌

    • @switch1e
      @switch1e  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks man!

  • @aletcetera9883
    @aletcetera9883 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Earthbound Zero is my favorite in the trilogy. I discovered it by accident in middle school in 2011 while trying to emulate Earthbound before I knew anything about emulation and boy was I confused lol.

  • @Jayshiver
    @Jayshiver ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bought Earthbound Beginnings on Wii U because I knew the eShop was closing down and I was getting everything I had even a passing interest in, but I knew absolutely nothing about it other than the fact that it was pretty much a more primitive version of Earthbound. This video really opened my eyes to what it is and I really appreciate that. Great vid!

    • @switch1e
      @switch1e  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you very much for watching! :)

  • @Starman256
    @Starman256 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    20:00 okay being a Mother, and Built to Spill fan.
    Why didn’t I have you as a friend in high school 😭

  • @projectember728
    @projectember728 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The thumbnail is beautiful and so is the video itself
    Keep it up😎👍

    • @switch1e
      @switch1e  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you so much 😀

  • @leaf2822
    @leaf2822 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can't wait for this!

  • @schemar17
    @schemar17 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't even play about mother but I love your channel so much I will watch anything you post 🤘

  • @Stelios78910
    @Stelios78910 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    congrats on this vid poppin off bro, u deserve it
    hope there's a universe where u can make this vid about the official mother 3 west release someday

  • @PureEnragement
    @PureEnragement ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just grind on rats in the basement until lv 4 and it's much easier to make it to Podunk then, also get the orange juice from your sister after the poltergeist, but before you go to the basement and outside the house or she won't have it anymore. She'll give you as many as you can hold. Makes the early game more tolerable.

  • @effective.powerh7885
    @effective.powerh7885 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    hold up, earthbound 0 is on nes, so if they called the character on the nintendo entertain system game ninten, does that mean ness' name is ness because its a play on snes? 😭

  • @mayramartinez1595
    @mayramartinez1595 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I played this one first, is reallt good when you speed up using a emulator, despite its flaws, it has a place in my heart.

    • @switch1e
      @switch1e  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It was not easy for me to play it without speeding it up, but I managed

    • @mayramartinez1595
      @mayramartinez1595 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@switch1e The Mother 1+2 version really improved the game, the auto battle mode saved me a lot of stress

  • @pkmarie04
    @pkmarie04 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I remember the first time I ever played mother I got to Duncan’s factory and then quit bc that thing was too confusing for me as a child 💀💀 came back to it years later and finished my original save file tho lmao

  • @moonbased7796
    @moonbased7796 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    As someone who is an earthbound fan,
    Respect for the roast

  • @ElBerdo6969
    @ElBerdo6969 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    29:57 the guitarist in magicant tells you where to find the melodies, that's how i finded them (srry for my english)

  • @zanabandgirl
    @zanabandgirl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    love this!! the little skits inbetween were cute and funny

    • @switch1e
      @switch1e  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Aww thank you!

  • @doomdonuts2241
    @doomdonuts2241 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Swag video switch1e. Keep it up!

    • @switch1e
      @switch1e  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! Will do!

  • @dylus7434
    @dylus7434 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Despite this game's relatively clear flaws, I always find myself wanting to come back to this game. It's actually my most replayed MOTHER game. Playing through the game again recently, I absolutely understand your criticisms. It was during this new playthrough that I realize the maps are so much bigger than in Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy, making the encounter rates even more unbearable. But this new playthrough also made me appreciate using (not eating) Bread to make Crumbs. The Crumbs are like a teleport to wherever you used the Bread, so it makes attempted journeys between towns and dungeons SO MUCH BETTER!
    So, for anyone playing this game (for the first time or the twentieth), USE THE BREAD!
    Also, level up Pippi, give her a slingshot, and watch her wreck everything!

  • @dogtheories
    @dogtheories 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    commenting for the algorithm yay
    also nice video! i love your work. mother 3 is my favourite game of all time but ive never played 1 or 2 (and dont know if i have the patience to so i like just watching videos talking about them instead). I remember trying to play mother when those mini nintendo consoles came out and found it impossible because the enemies at the start were way too strong lol

    • @switch1e
      @switch1e  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for helping with the algorithm! Regarding the Mother series, you should definitely play 2 at least. It’s not much more difficult than Mother 3 (I would say it’s easier)

  • @nomorechqnnel
    @nomorechqnnel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i finally beat Mother, now i can finally FINALLY watch this video

  • @imwastedhere
    @imwastedhere 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    mother 1 is like every jrpg of the nes sometimes you don't know what your doing and the game doesn't resemble anything from other games from the franchise. However it has some charm that is just there and it has that feeling for being the first game of the series. The japones version was even harder as it had longer dungeons(GBA as well). While the English nes version has shorter dungeons but it's a little censored. In my opinion the best version is the GBA version it has the easy ring and uncensored sprites but keeps the long dungeons. And ends the delima of what was teddy's fate at the end of the game.

    • @amimm7776
      @amimm7776 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I like the GBA release for the more earthbound-like movement system and for having those silly holiday town names, also the run button isn't super janky, though I'd say it's more a subjective thing, I don't really use the easy ring because I'm a sadist.

    • @imwastedhere
      @imwastedhere 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@amimm7776 yeah the easy ring is optional it's more like a convinience

  • @s.radiation
    @s.radiation 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing review! Your channel is underrated and I like your scripting style. It’s nice to hear about a game in a series I love- but never played.
    ALSO is that built to spill in the title cards!? I recognized the sound instantly!!

    • @switch1e
      @switch1e  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, I love Built to Spill

    • @s.radiation
      @s.radiation 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too! My favorite album from them is ‘Perfect From Now On’!!!

    • @switch1e
      @switch1e  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@s.radiation same, it is one of my all time favorites

  • @memejohn86
    @memejohn86 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I started playing this game with my friend a couple of days ago. Coming from Earthbound, the game feels kind of clunky in comparsion. The music was very good tho.
    Never got that far tho, a zombie kicked my ass. I still found it fun.
    also the encounters weren't that bad

  • @olivesarts8606
    @olivesarts8606 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is a great video I really love the MOTHER/Earthbound games & I love seeing people talk about MOTHER 1/Earthbound Zero I wonder will you do the other games in the series ????

    • @switch1e
      @switch1e  28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I’ve considered doing EarthBound! Mother 3 as well.
      I just wouldn’t know how to do those games justice

  • @pokemaster374
    @pokemaster374 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Back a month later after this came back through Nintendo switch online

  • @mangoman6347
    @mangoman6347 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The king has returned

  • @psi_mae
    @psi_mae 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mother is archaic and was the last mother Game I played, but this game hit me in a different way from behind to end, I was addicted, and though needs a remake, it holds a special place in my heart, and I think it’s the best NES RPG