Elite: Dangerous - "Flight Assist Off Training" Beginner Proficiency #3
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ก.ค. 2017
- Welcome to Proficiency #3 in my Flight Assist Off Beginner Series. This training mirrors my regiment for Newton's Gambit (forums.frontier.co.uk/showthr.... I tend to divide beginner FAOFF skill into 5 proficiency levels. The exercises shown here in this video comprise all of the exercises for Proficiency Level #3.
Check out the previous videos in this training series here:
Proficiency #1: [ • Elite: Dangerous - "Fl... ]
Proficiency #2: [ • Elite: Dangerous - "Fl... ]
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No need to find a round Station for trenching.
From the main menu go into Training-Challenge Scenarios-Docking Practice and TADA.
Amazing video series, just started the game a few days ago and made immense leaps in skill thanks to your exercises
thanks for the tip, i just bought the game a few days ago and its my turn now to try these exercises (:
The speed of rotation of these stations is based upon centrifugal physics. They are spinning at the speed necessary to produce 1g of gravity. There is no artificial gravity in Elite Dangerous so to create gravity they have to use centrifugal force. Each type of station spins at the speed necessary to produce 1g of gravity on the inside of its outermost surface.
You have completely changed what elite is for me for the better. Thanks so much for this tutorial series, it is so very thought-through and well done as is rare on yt.
July 4th, 2017. Was when I played elite for more than 40 hours a week for a span of 3 months. FA On of course. Then I quit, got bored. Oct., 2020. Because of COVID, I picked it back up again. Primarily to update the VA profiles for fellow CMDRs and in doing that I had to "test" the game ;) After trying out Proficiency #1, I remembered, in 2017, I tried tethering briefly and most probably, from the same vids. You've helped so many people you won't believe and probably only a fraction of us commented. So thank you. I don't know how long #1 will take me but I will keep at it. In fact, after trying it for an hour just now, something happened. Suddenly FA On felt alien, I was having trouble flying my ship with it on.
I've been practicing over the last few weeks at about this 'level'. I've noticed a significant shift in how I treat everything, and getting a lot better. I've even tried combat, and found I was staying out of my opponents' line of fire a lot better. Now, a few of my fellow commanders in the Squadron are coming to me for help, and it feels amazing.
This is where I'm kind of stuck. I'm not a combat flyer by any means, but I have been doing some missions to see where my skills are. Right now I can destroy up to a dangerous or next level (can't recall the rank) NPC. But higher levels tend to stay in front of me facing me. I will start out engaging right above and behind but once they or I boost, I can't keep that distance closed and we are like a kilo or so away. At that point its a battle of who has the better weapons and shields because they are now matching my moves and I have to boost beyond. Then they just flip and I flip and it's the same thing. I have to figure out how to stop the backward drift faster.
@@XxsteamerxX I curently sometimes battle with the same thing, even with FA on. What you're doing basicaly is call jousting, you're both trying to pull the same manouvre, and end up facing each other. It's hard to get behind agile ships and skilled NPCs.
After years and years, this is still the very best and comprehensive FA-Off Guide period. Thank you soo much!!
This has added a completely new dimension to the game. Learning on the PS4 controller is a little tricky but totally doable. Looking forward to training my squad-mates with these videos. Thanks so much for making these!
I'm also learning on a PS4 controller. Would love to hear the settings you use. At the moment I'm using pitch/roll on the left stick, yaw/vert for right stick, throttle is on the bumpers and laterals on L3 and R3.
@@MrDeni23n I'm just using the default controls, as far a ship control goes. I fly in alternate most of the time so that I have more control of my vector. I've considered getting buying yaw pedals, but I play in bed so that wouldn't work.
This series is stunning. I’ve always been into helicopter flight and also recently drone flight. This zero gravity stuff takes it to another level. It’s like mixing helicopter and jet powered aircraft, in space lol. FA off is my new obsession. Thanks for this series, who needs gravity!!!
100 percent. I also flew all helicopter sims. Now im obsessed with FA off 😅
I also fly drones. flying in space is almost like FPV drone flying. Except in space you get to look out the window lol
Playing this game with flight assist off is like I'm playing a brand new game. It's so satisfying and there is a huge learning curve, but it is awesome
These remind me of the combat training videos that I would watch for Falcon 2.0, back in the 90s. The very reason I started building my PCs
Oh, reverse thrusters easy mental reset: Stop looking at it as you controlling your ship and start looking at it as you control the world around it. Works especially well if you fly upside down in reverse while the camera looks at your nose.
Goddamit, this one was hard to complete. but I did it nonetheless. Took me some time, but i think i'm somewhat ready for the next video. BTW, the last two exercises were pretty fun once i got pass the rather frustrating beginning and actually was able to travel around with the camera detached. Thanks again man, this series of exercises is pretty awesome,
These series are definitely as needed as all other 3rd party sites used to play the game. A MUST!
Great work here! you do a real good job of explaining whats going on.
Thank you again Echo3!
Thanks for the series, I played Elite II Frontier and then moved to Elite Dangerous.
Flying with flight assist on never crossed my mind, and your exercises are exactly what I needed to get better, even after years in the game.
Flying Coriolis trenches is tight! (Sorry, I just had to stick the Producer Guy here)
Elite 2 Frontier was amazing. Couldn't believe it when this game came out. Childhood dreams.
I don't even play elite dangerous and I've been binging your tutorials, dude you should put up online courses or something love your style
I didnt get the game to mine or explore or even fight and battle. These events are just the results of humans being out in space. We do this stuff everywhere we go. lol
I got the game to FLY, and fly in space VR. And these series were an eye opener in how to fly in space with no constricting vector.
Thank you for putting this together for us all, really wonderful stuff to help us enjoy the game even more.
These videos have changed my perspective. Keep them coming, I'm waiting on #4!
William Seifried Thank you!
Thanks for these videos, they're super helpful! I've been practicing for a few hours now and am already at a point where I can kinda fly around various spinning starports and squeeze through narrow gaps and tether onto any random spot on the fly without crashing into things all the time.
Looking forward to part 4!
Thank you Seekay! Proficiency #4 was just released! I was away on travel for a bit but now I'm back on more of a steady schedule. Keep up the good practice!
I'm thoroughly enjoying your video series. I'm increasing my skills and it's providing a different in game experience for me.
Mate these are just getting better and better! Love your work!
Thanks Madrax!!
Are you a teacher back on Earth CMDR? these lessons are exactly what I've been looking for!
thank you so much for this. I hope to be up to speed by the time you release the next one!
Thank you kineographBOT !!
These videos have been a tremendous gift. Thank you. I did not know about the engines shutoff at max speed during FA off until this vid, however. Would be better to learn that bit earlier.
Loving this series, been playing since release and while my FA off skills are reasonable I appreciate the exercises.
Matthew Reece-Ford Thank you very much!!
I'm still learning Elite and I'm loving these exercises and can't wait to put them into practise. Your flying is amazing and it looks so much fun. Long hours of work ahead but my god it will be worth it.
thanks for your dedication to making these. keep em coming
Thanks Hans Havlik !
My god, you make it look so easy.
Thank you ColossalSquid!
28 mins in reminds me of Zarch/Virus, another Braben game. Amazing tutorials. Thank for putting them together.!
Winxamitosis Haha thank you for this comment! I checked it out. It looks like an amazing game!
great series...I thoroughly enjoyed it!
Thank you for your videos. Although I didn't dive into FA OFF yet because of Thargoids and grinding engineers (UGH) these will come handy later on and they're enjoyable to watch just for what they are. The camera suite moment was glorious!
Dive into FA-off mate! I am full FA-off with KB+M so if I can do it anyone can :D Pop into our discord if you want help with the transition as well all are FA-off pilots and love to help others get the most out of the experience.
Ninarayan Thank you!! Yeah using the camera suite is a lot of fun!
Dude, you have helped me more than words can say!
Thank you for the comment Angus Thermopyle ! I'm really happy that it's helping some people out. :)
The external camera exercise reminded me of Virus. I loved that game.
I began watching these before I got ED on PS4. Now I have it, I cannot believe how apparently impossible these tasks seem to me now! I plan to get onto this at some point but TBH I am a little daunted.
Colin Jowett Don't dismay. Just keep at it. I know that sounds like a standard response but it's really true. Dictating your position with FAOFF is a skill that takes some time to start seeing gains. But eventually, if you keep at it and keep calm even when it doesn't work out, your brain will switch gears and accept the new inputs.
i know that feeling, played a little with fa off here and there, but it gets so damn messy everytime.
But im really looking forward to start this training exercises soon, so lets give our best cmdr! o7 :)
Yeah PS4 has the extra difficulty of switching control schemes
Awesome stuff again! :) Thanks! Honestly, I don't have any time to play, but I'm looking for some time to play again FA off. :D
Dude, I've been flying flight assist off since I got this game. I gotta tell ya, you got some skills. My approach is completely 'on the job' and crude (xbox) compared to your disciplined style.(Hybrid)
As to your last point about finding something special, I have found flight assist off techniques invaluable for minimising thruster use.
If you haven't already tried it, attempt to keep your ships heat around 18% and below.(switch off modules)
Flt assist off has a beautiful synergy with maintaining your ship for long periods in this low temperature condition, and it has obvious tactical benefits.
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D Main Yes!!! I love smuggling runs with low heat output using FAOFF
The most important thing and I dont see ANYONE talking to much is WHAT you are using to play: HOTAS ??? Xbox One controller ??? Mouse and pad ??? You need to configure properly each one BEFORE trying FA off. So, if you are trying to fly with FA OFF, its better search for a good configs BEFORE the basics flying lessons. Trust me.
@@renatomedina9528 I struggled to find a layout for my ps4 controller. I finally have a setup that is close to my original settings for FA ON, so it's taking a little while to get used to. The only downside with the controller is that it's harder to make micro adjustments. At the moment I'm using pitch/roll on the left stick, yaw/vert for right stick, throttle is on the bumpers and laterals on L3 and R3.
Thank you again for this video man.
Amazing series :)
You made me fall in love with fa-off
Excellent series of videos! Thank you! I've yet to even try FA off (after 2 years!) but now is a good time to get started. You need to start an ED Flight School 😀 (I've subbed...)
Dave McKergan Thank you!! We're actually thinking about starting an FA Off Academy in our group Newton's Gambit. Thank you for watching and commenting! I should have the next video in the series done soon. I've just been stalled on some animations that I need.
This series is amazing. I haven't started practicing yet, I've been playing ffxiv and before I got off of ED last time I was using KBM so I need to reset up my HOTAS. I need to try to set mine up like yours. Also, I think I'd like to join your gang. You seem like a solid player who is friendly and likes to teach. I don't really have anyone to play ED with so the game gets old fast and I never really get better.
Come and check out the Newton's Gambit mate. We are a chilled out bunch that enjoy all things with FA-off :D
Madrax 573 do you use discord?! I can't stand ts
Thank you Madrax! And thanks for joining up! We have a lot of different commanders in NG from different areas in the game.
God why don't these videos have more views?
It's ok, I'm not super concerned about the view count. I don't monetize this channel and I'm not really trying to make a brand or anything. Honestly, I get my feels when someone lets me know that it helped. Thanks for watching and letting me know that you like them!
Flight Assist off, has its place. And if you want to go go through the process to learn it completely, I applaud you. But it's not what the game designers had in mind. There is a reason why Flight Assist is always engaged by default when you start a session. And with FA Off, you will *never* come to a complete stop except when the docking clamps engage or getting stuck from a botched docking. There will always be a tiny amount of rotation. It might only be 1/10 (or even 1/20) of a degree. But in 10 seconds (or 20 seconds if it is 1/20 of a degree) degree you will have rotated 1 degree.
You see, coming to 0 speed from rotation with no drifting *at all* requires micro burns for microseconds. Humans just cannot be that precise. But computers can. And that's what Flight Assist is for. Your videos are interesting and entertaining, but I have no desire to use full manual control 100% of the time. But for those who do, have fun.
Its on by default because a casual player cannot handle it. Computers aren't that accurate either, but even in 2018 we can dock things to the ISS. 3304? Docking clamps would be very forgiving.
Time for your intermediate and expert exercises
Seen on February 2021, still current
This is a great series.
Could you give some advice on quieting your ship as you put it. I have a lot of trouble just getting things to quiet down. I have my controls turned down to the least sensitivity setting but things still get out of control while trying to thrust and move. I end up overcorrecting my roll pitch and yaw more and more until I have to bail out and turn on FA.
Thank you Malorie! I just added Proficiency #4 today. After I get through with 5 (hopefully in a couple of weeks), I'm going to switch over to doing short videos really targeting any FAOFF roadblocks that people might be encountering. Are you on a Joystick, KB+Mouse, or a Controller?
I'm training now and I wonder, if Elite will last long enough so I could use what I learn...
I've never been able to figure out any of the cameras - how did you turn on the planetary one?
Is there rotation dampening? I am trying to relate this to quadcopter flying, but if there is no rotation dampening, things might get interesting.
How about using fighters for training purposes?
0Keene0 Yes!!! I love flying the fighters. They are wonderfully responsive. For a good exercise, jump into multicrew, launch, and have the parent ship execute a continuous roll while you try to dock.
Is there a way of getting the analog thrust input in FAOFF to Mouse and Keyboard? I feel like everything else is possible but the lack of thrust management is preventing me from doing some of the exercises, like any of these "tethering" trials
Nobody seem to have answered your question, but what I do to use with my mouse+KB in FA-OFF setup is having "Relative Mouse Axis - ON" on both vertical and horizontal (so a push of the mouse is just a burst of thrust and not a constant thrust). It makes FA-ON a bit more of a chore but I've been FA-OFF on everything except looting crates lately.
Do you have suggested controls for flight assist off on controler? I'm having a hard time with my current set up.
FYI. If you're trying to thread and feel like you're losing your mind because you're hitting stuff you shouldn't be hitting, I recommend checking to see if you landing gear is deployed. Not speaking from personal experience at all... .... ... :/
Haha!
Is your throttle set to a toggle, or do you have yours set to use full range of motion for forward and reverse for your primary thrusters? I feel like trying to do FAOFF with toggled throttle would make it extremely difficult.
I’d like to know as well, as I’m playing on a gamepad, Xbox ver. So all I can use is a toggle throttle.
Any ETA on proficiency 4? I am having a lot of trouble combatting ships that are consistently changing vector even though I have been able to do the exercises in all three videos. Specifically turning and keeping the enemy in sight of the bow of my ship within 1000 meters.
Just released! Sorry I was away for a bit on a few trips (camping). I'm back on more of a normal schedule now. Thank you for watching and for your patience. I really did mean to get Proficiency #4 out quite a bit earlier.
Moxen Wolf No worries! I wanted to just know when to expect something. Thank you for all your hard work!
Impressive as hell. How many hours on the stick in FAOFF?
Thank you for the comment Greg! I think I became somewhat fluent after about 3 weeks to a month of flying with FAOFF but back then, there wasn't a timePlayed variable that I could access. I've been flying now FAOFF for over 2 years.
You should shorten your intro to flight assist off training, instead of telling what we should do, show us first. Makes me happier