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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ก.ค. 2024
- Hyper burn and new player friendly tier list that includes Go West and Dreamer updates!
Thanks, Phil, Tummy, and Taco for helping me make this.
Criteria for tierlist:
Class performance up to CTene and BM
Would it be recommended for a NEW player?
How difficult is this class to play?
Overall Balance of the class at the moment
Most of the placements are based off of these things and more!
Timestamps:
0:00:00 - 0:02:10 Intro
0:02:11 - 0:11:19 Angelic Buster (엔젤릭버스터)
0:11:20 - 0:17:35 Adele (아델)
0:17:36 - 0:24:54 Aran (아란)
0:24:55 - 0:31:16 Ark (아크)
0:31:17 - 0:36:37 Battle Mage (배틀메이지)
0:36:38 - 0:43:30 Bishop (비숍)
0:43:31 - 0:49:32 Blaster (블래스터)
0:49:33 - 0:58:47 Dual Blade (듀얼블레이드)
0:58:48 - 1:04:26 Blaze Wizard (플레임위자드)
1:04:27 - 1:11:50 Bowmaster (보우마스터)
1:11:51 - 1:17:57 Buccaneer (바이퍼)
1:17:58 - 1:22:38 Cadena (카데나)
1:22:40 - 1:28:15 Cannon Master (캐논슈터)
1:28:17 - 1:37:02 Corsair (캡틴)
1:37:03 - 1:43:22 Dark Knight (다크나이트)
1:43:23 - 1:48:51 Dawn Warrior (소울마스터)
1:48:52 - 1:51:30 Demon Avenger (데몬어벤져)
1:51:31 - 1:58:20 Demon Slayer (데몬슬레이어)
1:58:21 - 2:04:37 Evan (에반)
2:04:37 - 2:11:11 Fire Poison (아크메이지(불,독))
2:11:11 - 2:17:28 Hayato (하야토)
2:17:28 - 2:21:18 Hero (히어로)
2:21:18 - 2:28:16 Hoyoung (호영)
2:28:16 - 2:31:44 Ice Lightning (아크메이지(썬,콜))
2:31:44 - 2:39:38 Illium (일리움)
2:39:38 - 2:44:25 Kain (카인)
2:44:25 - 2:47:21 Kanna (칸나)
2:47:21 - 2:54:22 Kaiser (카이저)
2:54:22 - 2:57:22 Khali (칼리)
2:57:22 - 2:59:36 Luminous (루미너스)
2:59:36 - 3:04:03 Kinesis (키네시스)
3:04:03 - 3:12:40 Lara (라라)
3:12:40 - 3:19:15 Lynn (린)
3:19:15 - 3:23:15 Marksman (신궁)
3:23:15 - 3:29:42 Mechanic (메카닉)
3:29:42 - 3:38:45 Mercedes (메르세데스)
3:38:45 - 3:45:00 Mihile (미하일)
3:45:00 - 3:55:19 Night Lord (나이트로드)
3:55:19 - 4:00:06 Night Walker (나이트워커)
4:00:06 - 4:07:53 Paladin (팔라딘)
4:07:53 - 4:10:09 Pathfinder (패스파인더)
4:10:09 - 4:15:03 Phantom (팬텀)
4:15:03 - 4:17:20 Shade (은월)
4:17:20 - 4:23:21 Shadower (섀도어)
4:23:21 - 4:27:12 Thunder Breaker (스트라이커)
4:27:12 - 4:30:09 Wind Archer (윈드브레이커)
4:30:09 - 4:32:38 Xenon (제논)
4:32:38 - 4:37:30 Zero (제로)
4:37:30 - 4:40:52 Wild Hunter (와일드헌터)
4:40:52 - 4:51:07 Final Placements and Thoughts
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'Bro' was said 2189 times in this video. I had a bot AI record every utterance. However, it self terminated itself shortly after achieving its goal.
A "Bro" almost every 8 seconds
Dang
Wait till you see how toxic he is to his teammates in other videos, the bro also goes brrrrrrrrrr
bro is the new word
😂
The funny thing about what Taco said about Zero, is that of the 5 classes I've mained or sub-mained, Zero has the most resources for learning. Their discord has tons of stuff, including of course the Zero bible, a google doc guide that's well over 100 pages.
omg my goat uploaded. so glad i got to catch this live. thanks for all the content recently its been mad helpful lately.
You can't know how much I was waiting for this video!
W Vid. I was there when this was live!
The consistent uploads go crazy
Thanks for sucking me back into this game - it's only been 18 years. Back to playing a Bishop once again.
YES, IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS. i watched ur old 6-7 hour mains one a few days ago lmfao
I like Taco but his take on Zero was pretty disingenuous. The class is barely behind Ark on 275+ class population in GMS which is really good considering how many people jumped to Ark when the class was peaking. The discord itself is pretty populated too, (3.3k members at the time of writing) which is actually more than a few other meta/popular classes like Merc, Xenon, AB, etc. They have a very detailed doc on combos and pretty thorough on which skills you need to string with which. Class itself isn't even hard, there are a few bossing strings you learn and that's it. Thanks for trying to reason with him at least, he did seem a little heated out of nowhere
the biggest issue with zero being non-main is the 7node 10skill boost node setup, otherwise it's performing alright.
these tierlist videos give me life
5 hour tier list video we will be watching the entire thing
time for some waps
and then save it to our favorites to watch again lol 😂
5 HOUR VIDEO ???? WHAT A SPECTACULAR LIFE ITS BEEN !!
I'm watching while grinding
@@PokeUFO W mans !
What site are you using? To check all the skills and buffs each class are getting? Would like to know please and thank you
orange mushroom blog
any tier list for mains or we can look at previous vid ?
Any chance we can get that origin damage changes page list you pulled up?
Great videos keep up the good work with all the content.
I’ll post the link on this comment when I get home tonight
returning player with a fresh 242 bishop a bit over a month in, and i do agree that the power level feels extremely low on a fresh account. i do like how the class feels very hand holdy tho, heals, tp, free stats, and true HS, easiest mobbing you can imagine. solo bossing aint easy but it has enough tools to encourage learning boss mechanics. it does suck seeing lower level high power classes progress early game faster but it is what it is for a support i guess. the being carried with partying aspect is meh too because most people solo until slime so theres not a lot of demand for partying below that
Super informative thanks
I have a 215 NW is it more with to burn a new character or try to hit 260 on the NW?
From what I've seen, it's best to burn your main. If you're worried about min maxing your legion, you can get 260 legion lvs in a few hours (2 lv 130s). Think of the time to lv from 215 - 260 it's way more than a few hours
Alright, now to make a mains tier list.
I watched this live and I’m watching again it was so good, YUP
I love Aran and Yahato i just can't pick 1. I know u are taking about Hyper Burning tier list not Main tier but after what i heard about Aran. Shoud pick Aran for main?
yea
Babe come quick new duky movie dropped
Always enjoy listening to your tier list videos while at work or grinding away at ms. i really love your low funding boss mules especially but this one was very informative and helpful as well :) i always love the hyper burns and play the sht out of ms for a few days to a week and get to like 230 and then burn myself out and dont touch it again LOL but with all the changes and QoL lately, might try and push past 230 for the first time. still not sure what i wana hyper burn since with how my brain is, sometimes i just wana chill and do as little as possible (usually when i play bucc which is current main) but other times i wana go full sweat and play adele. its like my brain just hates me and whatever im doing i wana be doing the other lmfao. but anyways, love the vids, i know youve been back for a while but damn am i glad your back. i dont watch twitch but i hope your still doing great mental health wise, you seem to be putting out a lot of content lately and i know from that long video you put out explaining your whole situation, i just hope you didnt have a relapse or anything. Never met you or anything but idk, for some reason i just really love your content and really felt connected with that long ass video about why you did the things you did. But anyways, idk if youll read it all or not but probably will, but just wanted to say how much i love your content and the work you do and to keep up the great work and hope your doing well IRL :)
I played maplestory years ago. Recently decided to try out maplestory mobile but not looking to drop loads of money. For someone who’s basically new to the franchise, I’m torn between 2 classes. AB and WA. Which one is better all around? I’m open for a third option but atm I’m enjoying both and not sure which one to focus on more. (Not sure if you tried mobile)
mobile is a completely different game, i cant say, i dont play it
Hi, what page did you use to watch Xenon's origin animation?
orange mushroom blog
@@Duky ty king
Do a tier list for ease of training to 250 please! struggling to decide who to burn/potion/train normally :(
Hey can you please help me out? I have 2650 legion and I main a lvl 235 WA at the moment. I have no idea about what to burn. First I was thinking of AB, but this video made me doubt my choice.. I really like battle mage as well. Should I just burn battle mage to use as a (stronger) boss mule and make an AB to 200 in the next 5 days so I can still do that AB event from the start? Or just go for AB and make it 260. I still need one for my link skills.
i wouldnt be thinking about mules at your legion/progression. do you want to continue maining WA? if so, consider burning your WA to get to 260 asap and start 6th job progression, or at least use mag pots and exp coupons to get there asap. if you really want to get a 2nd char progressed to 6th, consider burning the next class youre genuinely interested in
So what are you planning on doing on your hyperburn? Realistically you should just make a class you enjoy the gameplay and not care about how strong it is. At 260 with 6th job then you are guaranteed to have at least a normal lotus/Damien mule if not even hard lotus and Damien.
There it is
Imo don’t make the AB now, the 0-100 and food storage type event will get you levels very quickly. If you want a boss mule don’t burn BAM, if u want a main/2nd main BaM is a great class and u can’t go wrong
As someone who was looking for a main swap for this hyper, this list made me question as FP/Haya was near at the top of my lists. Will we be getting a post dreamer mains list anytime soon?
you have to consider they took multiple letter grades off any class that you cant huff glue and pull up to the boss and hold down 1 button. This list isnt for your use case.
FP and Hayato are super good mains, not braindead mules or new player friendly tho
@@Duky that was my hope. I am relatively new (started in late March) currently Pathfinder Main with a Lynn offmain but wanted to hyper something with a higher ceiling that was more difficult to boss with. I appreciate the response.
PLZ MAKE A POST DREAMER TIERLIST, IM P SURE SHAD IS ASS NOW AND TB IS GIGA UP BUT LMK THO
I'm decided to burning Dawn Warrior, hope it will be good main and can solo every bosses, deciding to start reboot
im all in on that phantom rework ideal
I'll be waiting for the 5 hour aesthetics tier list 🔥
thank god, someone is thinking like me
Actually peak video length we love a maple binge
anyone know where i can find the kms series being talked about at 3:45:30?
Haven't played maple in years. I used to run a channel called RebootMS when the game first came out. This video is gonna help a lot for someone who has been away for awhile.
Thinking of DS or Shade so far.
Welcome back! :)
Shade has the saddest storyline ever, so make sure to prepare some tissues beforehand in that case haha
@@Roy-rh7yz thank you! Noted will do! Still in the fence I feel like I might like demon slayer as well but with the Shade buffs it seems very tempting
Hypering a BaM rn its so broken, Easy to gear (INT free, no SW, No CD hat), cool aesthetic, good damage despite being a support, free parties bc of support, and we just got finishing blow boosted? This class is EATING
How's the training so far
@LaoNinja007 It's great, has summons with high range, high mobility, a long-lasting pseudo fma and easily one shots. I recommend
@@GameConnoisseur69 ty
taco: "it could be the best class in the game, i don't care, fk u" 😂😂😂
LMFAO
This was great, still no idea if I'll go with AB, Lara, or Kain though lol
I'm currently trying to pick a main starting a reboot account. About halfway through, and it's already helped so much. I'm probably going with bucc. Thankfully this eventvwith the 0 to 100 and the free 200 automatically will get me from like 450 to 1k legion
Watched the whole video lmao. Damn now I can't decide between NW main or AB rework main. I am leaning more toward AB because of the rework event items.
Can someone tell me what's the difference between KMS and GMS Lynn? No need to break it down too much.
KMS does not have Lynn
Duky viewers are eating good! Another banger. I’m about to watch the entire thing. I hope Hayato is high up on the list.
Edit: Sadge. I’m hyper burning Hayato anyways. It’s so much fun.
omg ty now i will be hyperburning bishop!!
Excited to make Kain my first 6th job class this burn
your videos have been so helpful to noobies like me, thank you so much!!
fuckin love these tier lists man😂 thanks for making them
ahhh yes the hyper burn brings me back again
Should I wait for the Milestone update to get the free hyper burned Aran or would burning it now be feasible?
id wait till later and burn smthn else now
if you plan on maining it then obviously burn it now, waiting 6 month to start a main is really dumb
@@masterace1071 Nah my factor is the link skill, but should I really wait out 6 months for it?
@@davidnguye.n aran link skill doesnt really do much, its mainly for early lvls when you are doing legion, so waiting 6 months for it is pointless. Your legion should be progressed enough in 6months where you wouldnt even need it at that point.
Thank you so much guys. Buccaneer it is!
"Its not going to be 6h" he said in the stream
Thoughts on solo bossing on hayato? I'm curious what you think about it in party bossing and stuff cuz it seems really interesting to play, but being a "4min" class seems like it would hurt it a lot in solo bossing
nah its op as a main even in solo bossing
Is this guide for leveling up or based on fun?
i have a leveling guide on my channel
The Wind Archer explination was amazing & what pushed me over the fence for my hyper burn. I did forget the AB change completely when you guys mentioned it.
I do have 1 Question from a wind archer main. -Does the Origin procs trifling wind?
As an Adele main I 100% agree with the opinions. Definitely a main class could be a boss mule but does that player want to do that extra effort when other classes can just do it faster & less keys pressed? When yall were talking about plummet weaving no cap i got hyped up because I feel its underrated & Plummet does actually hit thats just me others have opinions & thats fine.
I Appreciate the teir list & helped me walked into the Go West update with a ready mindset who im hyper burning.
i think it does proc it, idk 100% tho, best to ask WA disc
@@DukyCan confirm it does thats nice with the origin change. Much appreciated for the response
can you or someone elaborate how "non-kms" affects the classes worth?
frequent bugs and not very frequent updates to the class or balance
Can I also add for Arans that with the lifesteal for legion and Combos orbs for link make this an amazing pick for a first class if you plan to work on other characters after? Lifesteal actually cuts back on using pots for all your other accounts by quite a bit and then its part of the EXP quartet of Aran/Evan/Merc/Zero too. I made another aran for a boss mule, got it to 220 through the event vouchers with NO nodes and the 9th/11th anniversery set up and it was able to blue dot in an nlomien party just HOURS after i got to 200 and 5th job on it, with like 1B funding max, just 4th job carries that hard. Also (back on the main) this can be seen in ursus when im lagging and cant attack the boss so i spam two buttons, adrenaline boost and hunters prey and in only one shot i usually end up with the highest damage out of everyone
you should NOT pick your first level 260 hyperburn off of its legion block and link, especially when the legion block is awful. just run monster tour for like a week and you have infinite potions
DS is a great main/burn. Trinode difficulty is overstated by most. For a burn, just do lash/impact. And Infernal Concussion if you can for mobbing.
Some people hate glide and tap jump. Personally, I love the feel and movement control of gliding. Momentum stopping and direction change is a huge QoL boost once you get used to it. And I actually really prefer double tap jumping because of carpal tunnel in my left arm. It literally cuts the amount of keypresses that I would need for jumps in half and moves it to my much healthier right arm :P
I would have done Bucc/AB/Shade/Shad, but I already leveled them to 220. Feels like a waste to not start with a fresh character. Probably going NW
Whats on KMS with lynn??
non-KMS means the class does not exist in korea so itll get infrequent updates or bug fixes
Thank you , well the best to kill bosses? : bucaneer?
NW
I dont understand how in every tier list you just dont know anything on zero and just say a lot of shit on this class even tho you dont know shit about it why dont you ask zero mains?
not a 5 hour tierlist btw
Maybe for the next time, should add again the discord extension that light's up when someone is talking.
But leavign that aside, nice vid
great idea actually
wen u streaming i need your showcase reaction
i dont think they are gonna boost kain's death blessing since it get boosted while origin is active. (sadly, if somehow it get bossted, strongest class in the game by far.)
I'm a brand new player. I'm about to watch this whole video :D. Any advice is appreciated!
Play what you want for a main, you have to enjoy your time in the later game rather then just play what’s super popular
look into whatever you think looks coolest and play that
Can't decide between DS and Kain
Why does non-kms make lynn a lower tier, do non-kms classes not get buffed often?
They don’t get as many balance patches or updates or bug fixes
how come da was only valued at how hard it can be to learn and play and not its damage, origin, etc like every other “difficult” class to play? no hate all love, just curious
cuz its more than just hard, its like a completely different playstyle and you get ultra punished by dying when you mess up. it's a super good main, but not for new ppl or mules
@@Duky ahh gotcha, much appreciated bro.
Yo Duky, started playing maplestory not too long ago and reallly appreciate all the content you put out for new people like me!
Ive got 3k legion right now and currently thinking about burning a main for go west. Im torn between Kaiser, BaM and Shade.. any opinions?
whichever looks coolest to u
out of all the options I recommend Bishop. Does everything the other classes you mentioned do but better. More damage, more support, more survivability.
if youre torn between the 3, then pick BaM
all three are very different in terms of movement. Kaiser has fj and a tp, shade is fj, bam has the best tp in the game. All three are extended burst dpm classes. But I think the similarities end there - play them all to 200 and pick the one that feels best
The maple content goat 🐐
I hope there are some changes and QoLs coming to Luminous... I love this class and wish I could play it. Mobbing is just god tier but bossing, damage and some outdated mechanics about the class makes it a big no no right now.
quick note as a Kaiser main, now with new mastery you need CD hat and inner ability skip cooldown so its kind harder if you tryna minmax tbh, but still great as dpm and solid 6min burst
You don't necessarily "need" it. It adds value, but we're not fully reliant around it as majority of our dmg comes from other sources.
I think for the purpose of inner ability, we don't need any of the 3 lines as much, majority of players will see great results without any inner done
yoooo
I'm stuck between shad and BaM for my first character / main
Idk why people (“youtuber”) in kronos hate DA so much, in fact DA has a reliable damage and easy to train tbh.. yes as in Demon Avenger.. easy early bossing with few equips on too..
We don't hate DA. We just dont recommend it as a side character you won't put too much effort on, or as a beginner friendly class. I am well aware how strong the class is, in the hands of an experienced player
Zero main here:
The fact that i dont need potions to heal is S tier on its own
Animation canceling is fun af
And mobbing is braindead even if you don't oneshot you still kill them quite fast
But the best of all is the 30+ second bind its just so satisfying
Zero is mainly mustle memory as you play him you automatically discover good bossing combos
Sorta of a new player, been playing for years but stopped at lvl 150 and I didn’t understand a lot of the terms and acronyms you were saying but looking for a main 🥳
its okay, the more you play, youll pick up on it. you got it
chill with the lowkey aran roast! so many i-frames but our posterchild certain guild member kept dying to the boss?!
as a NL 270 9k legion , NL should be lower , damage up time off burst is really really bad cause need to dodge a lot
Hamza we need Tier List for maining and hyperburning zill lib please not only for boss mules
idk if the ranking for shade was made considering the rework soon to come (that no one knows for sure beside how it cool it looks how it gonna effect shade dps wise)
shades rn are crap dps wise. thier off origin burst is a cancelable channeled skill with low damage % compared to other classes. the origin does no damage by itself but boost your attacking skills by small amount , and beisde the good mobility and the passive survival chance you got 1 long cd ifram that also stops your dps and not contributing dps wise. the benfits to crit and split also create huge lags in party bossing which is annoying everyone (shit game design not a class issue tho)
"broken AF " big no .
arguably strong shifting to "gets the job done" or top of the tier "need a little help"
-shade main
This is based off go west patch.
3:28:04 not even glancing LMAO
S/o duky level heading the L zero takes. Cringed the whole section, but he kept it realistic.
W tier list overall. Ty for content.
i fought for my life
YOU ARE WATCHING THE CHAMP OF THE WORLD KEKW
burn bam or a dw ? (As a main)
i like bam more, but you should burn what you think looks cooler
@@Duky bw or bam? thoughts comparing those 2? both look very cool to me
GOOD THING I HAVE 5 WAPS SO I CAN WATCH THIS TWICE!!!!!
approx 14 mins before the bro went brrrrrrrrr
BaM Finishing Blow core gets most of its gain at 1 and becomes marginal, most of the BA is from dark shock surprising and FB is really low. BaM till giga good at all levels though
Any tier list that doesn't have dawn warrior in S-tier is immediately F-tier
avg DW brain
@@Duky ONE BOSS ONE BUTTON
Im only hyper burning a character i dont feel like training xD
cadena does need a lil help you are right, please buff cadena nexon
lynn is getting wolf mastery. its so much stronger then you guys placed it, but ahwell.
How do u die out in lotus with a DA..... U can dash through P1 lazers and regain life before the other lazers.......you litterally don't die unless it's hhilla and P2 will
Something that you forget way too often is your prior knowledge. When you talk about new players or, havnt played for year or more returning players, is that they dont have prior knowledge or experience of how maple mechanics work when piloting a toon. Which makes classes that arnt simple or straight forward difficult. When you say 'i was able to do this as a mule' - is no where near the same as a new player. Not to mention you have detailed information from videos, talking about classes with other people etc etc.
true nexon please fix phantom wtf is this LOL
as a phant main if you dont have legion and link to back it up it struggles it's fun but it's not the best for starting out also for the love of god dont lump me with LoL players XD. Too bad shade and aran got the hero rework
Why do people hate Hayato?? Kain is even undesirable... it’s not even possible for a normal play it as it should be played 😅
frick hayato
WDYM Ark needs help this class is gigachad with all its skills being boosted in dreamer ....
thats not the only factor that goes into this list
Where's je...
man i haven't touch MS a long time and seeing most archer based classes being a high tier is a blessing
Where is sia 😂
very advanced tier list they dont teach this