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- KTM 790 Adventure R honest owner review. What I love and hate about the ktm 790 adventure platform.
After one year of ownership and 14,000 miles, I review my experience with the ktm 790 adv R. Its not a full review, but I do discuss in depth the top things I love and hate about the ktm 790.
The KTM 890 and 790 make great adventure travel motorcycles. They are extremely capable on and off-road motorcycles making motorcycle travel and motorcycle camping a wonderful experience.
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Good review bud, I honestly didn't know about the issues with the bike till we talked about it recently on the Podcast. Honestly I dont care if you pay 5k for a new bike having to tighten bolts that the factory missed is no bueno. No Unicorn I agree, if you like multiple types of riding you need multiple bikes! Good job!
Thanks Chappy!
Sorry to hear you are having reliability issues. I have a 2020 KTM 790 Adventure R that I have ridden for 2 years and 25.000 km with 0 issues. I keep hearing about reliability issues with KTM bikes but I have not had a problem. I installed a Camel ADV skidplate but the rest it stock. I love this bike. This bike is so much fun even if it broke down once a week I wouldn't give it up lol
Its a fun bike for sure! Glad yours is doing well. Thanks for sharing!
Good review. I just toured Scotland on mine, 1500 miles no issues. If you look after this bike and Service it properly it will look after you. I scooped out the seat padding With a kitchen knife and refilled it with soft foam and 10 times more comfortable and an inch and a half lower. Use the original seat cover with a staplegun. Yeah there is no better bike than this for motorway touring and if you run out of road. There is nowhere to go so I would hang onto this bike
KTM dealer network and overall CS here in Texas is pretty good actually. I too worry about the typical KTM issues but so far so good. The fact that the bike is head and shoulders above everything else in it's class is a worthwhile tradeoff. I wouldn't have it any other way, my 890 R will be in my garage for a while.
Can’t wait to see what’s next! Good luck with your search and keep us up to speed
Thanks for watching! I sure will!
I bought a 2020 Ktm Adventure S in December 2020. I paid $9,999.00 net (which included tax abd tags !). Ii love every thing about the bike. Added Tour Tec Pannier bags (38 & 31 Liter), after market rear rack, after market Corbin Comfort Seat. Plan on also adding upper and lower crash bars and Tourtech Top Case.
if you want a motorcycle that is light and tough enough to really trash around in the OutBack without worry look into the Yamaha TW200. They do not have a kick starter but you can have one installed by the dealer or yourself.
That's why I love my DR650! Air/oil cooled and pretty light at around 360lbs. Easiest bike to work on and super reliable! I'll keep mine forever!
If there is a unicorn it exist in the 300 -400lbs catagory! Thanks for watching!
@@MobMoto got a 690 Enduro R…pretty close to the Unicorn! Does everything pretty good👍it’s a dual sport/light Adventure bike. Atleast that’s what I use mine for
@@toddbenfield6546 Thats a pretty excellent choice! congrats
I had a DR650. Put 55k miles on it. Dropped a high compression piston in it and it woke up even at 55k. I did break a lot of things on the bike but I rode it hard like dirt bike at times. My biggest complaint was the suspension. I spent just under 2k improving the bike but it hit a wall. I picked up a 690 in 2016 and sold the DR. I don’t regret it at all. The thing I’ve learned is they’re all unique. Enjoy the experience then once you get the itch get something else to get a new experience.
I have a ‘19 KTM 1290 SAR. Purchased new. 15000 miles. I have only had one problem after I picked up some bad gas in Baja that affected my fuel pump. But the bike still got me back home to St Louis. Nothing has ever come loose, etc. Could be that since my bike is a 3rd year model all the kinks have been worked out. Luckily I’ve also had good luck with my dealerships.
Good luck in your search for a new bike.
I agree, I think most of the problems came from the first year 790 model. Thanks for watching
I owned a 990 Adventure. Within 10k miles the water pump toasted and put coolant into the oil. The dealer fixed the pump, saying water in the oil..no problem! Left me flabbergasted that the dealer (and some other owners)poopooed having chocolate milk in the crankcase. So, the new pump lasted a little more than 6kmiles. My friend and I fixed the pump .. modified it really. Lousy design has the impeller shaft catalievered way off the shaft bearing. Bearing gets sloppy which wears the seal which then leaks into the crankcase. Pathetic design no excuses for a water pump like that. I bought a DL1000...35kmiles later it's running beautifully with no issues. Valve check at 25K required no adjustment. Change fluids and go. Thanks for the honesty on the review.
Thanks for watching and sharing brother. I have a buddy who just bought a 950 and they seem outdated and full of reliability issues. I guess Ill get to see how it goes!
@@MobMoto The carbureted 950 supermoto is a pretty awesome machine. Hit the throttle and it literally jumps...it's like a cougar. The same friend who helped me with with the water pump mod owns one. He just doesn't ride it very much because the bike won't handle it. Thanks for the Baja travel log. On my way to La Paz in 3 weeks and your videos are good primers for Baja today!
@@stevenmarker8211 Im excited to take his 950 for a ride. Lol
Have fun in Baja mate!
Funny you say that those 3 particular items, bolts, dealers, reliability are exactly what I'm dealing with. Hope to get the quirks out. Thank alot for your content!
I love your videos. What I got from this video is the ktm has reliability issues that can possibly leave you stranded or worse. I think instead of picking the bike for the terrain rather pick the terrain to the bike. Got a 2021 ktm 690 but love my 1250gsa a lot more. Love riding the elephant offroad even after getting stuck for 1.5 hours bypassing a closed forest service gate lol serves me right.
I loved my GSA, excellent motorcycle! I looked for a unicorn for a while and realized there isnt one! Lol
You have a good range in your stable. Do you find the 690 big offroad? seems like it still big offroad and not big enough on road? Do you ever wish you had a small second bike? Thanks for watching and sharing brother, appreciate ya!
I have a 2019 790 with 16k miles, not one issue. I have a 2016 690 with 13k miles and zero issues. I have a 2014 350 EXC with over 140 hours and no problems. I’ve owned a 2014 1190, and two 300 EXCs no problems. Now the bad news. Lousy customer service not just from dealers but from KTM America related to a defective accessory that I bought. It’s so bad that I’ve considered selling all my KTMs because as you said customer service on bikes, especially if you’re riding hard off road, is critical. Im at a point where I’m thinking of going back to Japanese bikes. I also have a 2022 Beta 300 XTrainer and it’s great but I’ve sent Beta USA three emails with questions and no response. Hopefully Honda, Kawasaki, Yamaha or Suzuki will have better customer service, these days who knows.
Seems like good customer service is rare now days. There are good ktm dealers like RMATV in Utah but not where I'm at. Lol
Hello, Thanks for the video. Have you noticed the heat coming the engine? Did it bother you? Thanks
yes, i have burns scars from exhaust heat riding on the highway even with gear on, but I feel most of the bikes in this category suffer from the same problem.
Great review Rodney, I have a ktm 990 and although I haven't had any problems its always in the back of my mind, reliability issues. But man it puts a smile on my face every time I twist the throttle. You should get a Yamaha t7 super reliable.
Yes, the ktm riding experience is good! If I could find a t7 id buy one but......can only hope Honda releases one soon. Thanks Ian, appreciate ya!
@@MobMoto I’ve had my T7 for almost a year. Hands down best fir reliability. Zero concerns and a great bike. Did the entire COBDR on it without incident.
@@ChooseBrian Yes its pretty nice! if there were any available. Lol
Thanks for sharing.
17k kilometers on mine. I had issues with the battery, rear brake was serviced on the global recall and after the recall, it failed, got locked up, overheated, disc was KO, pistons etc...Got the entire rear brake system replaced under warranty but my confidence on the bike was terribly diminished. Unfortunately, in the country where i live in, Yamaha has not introduced the t700, triumph left the country a few years back (so no tiger 900), aprilia well, there are like 4 shops who would service the bike in the entire country so not an option for the moment when the tuareg 660 gets introduced. BMW f850gs...ijust cant stand how is it getting heavier and heavier (besides the top heavy feeling), no adjustabe front fork and here is way more expensive than ktm (both bike prices, parts and service). Im thinking maybe getting a husky 701 or 690 enduro r and mod it to suit my needs.
Thanks for watching and sharing, glad you were able to get it sorted under warranty. Aprilia looks cool and sounds good, but Im not sure I want to buy one and see what that experience is like. Lol
What country are you in? I agree on customizing the smaller bikes to our needs, its what I keep thinking as well.
@@MobMoto im in Colombia. For even considering the aprilia, i would to have to wait at least a year to see if it is decently reliable LOL. Something tells me we will both end up on a single cylinder bike and end up modding it! Great channel!
@@juanfelipearango2029 Thats funny! I am leaning that way! Lol I keep thinking about a 450 or 501 rally bike!
Good honest review. Having a lousy dealer really downgrades the owner experience. But, now you really know what you're looking for. Hope you find it out there and enjoy the search! Nothin' like a new bike!!
A dealer is never a problem till you need one! Lol
Thanks brother, appreciate ya!
Thank you for the video. I was SERIOUSLY thinking of getting the 890 but I just cannot get over the reliability issues. I currently have a 2012 GSA (bought new 24k miles) with no issues at all. I really want to like the 890 and like the looks but you have just cemented my decision not to get the 890. I think I may look into the 690 or 500 EXC-F and keep my GSA.. Thanks
The GSA and the 890 are excellent motorcycles, but I think the 500 would compliment the GSA very well. It would give you the best of both worlds!
If you think the 890 is unreliable good luck with a 690 those motors are made of cheese
@@MobMoto Ended p getting a KTM 500 EXC-F and will keep the GSA
@@georgesolomon5696 Excellent you're gonna really like that combo.
@@georgesolomon5696 I can attest to the EXC-F’s being great. No reliability issues if u do as you are told by manual and do it on time. I did notice from this video that he planned to sell his 790 but he did say he was fortunate to not have problems so far. I’m gonna say if I don’t experienced problems and am confident I’m taking care of it like I supposed to, I’m gonna keep riding it especially if u enjoy it as this guy sounds like he does
Right facts👍 hey what mic you have?
Shure MVL lapel mic with the DJI action 2 camera.
Good Review, I found your channel looking up, Baja information, which was very helpful.
You nailed it on 400 pounds and being simple and reliable. My Gen1 KLR is max weight just under 400 lbs. & what I'll take to Baja, good on the road and light off road. My DR650 is a great mid 300 lb. bike and does street and off road very well. If I know the trails are tough or need a bike to pre-run some trails and highway it is the XR650L all day. They are all easy to maintain and you can mod them for better off road cheaply. Both my DR & XR have USD forks which turn the bike into a different machine.
Ive been looking into them. Thats good advice, appreciate it! Have fun in Baja, thanks for watching mate!
Fair review, keep up the good work!
Thanks for watching, appreciate ya!
I have a 2020 790r. Definitely same experience with the off road portion of this bike. Thought I was going to throw it around on single track and it would be a cool mix between a naked street and a dirt bike. . Im probably gonna just get a trail bike and run the ktm 790 on two track or easier stuff. Im thinking drz400. Something bombproof and proven. Every issue i have had with my ktm has just been stupid little things that take 2months to get the parts for. Brake light switch.... clutch switch...
I really appreciate your honest review, but What I don’t like about this review, is you didn’t give an honest feedback of YOUR experience on the reliability of this Ktm. Your Ktm ownership gave you zero reliability issues,(besides some bolts that went lose unfortunately and a software update) but even so you share this review of reliability negatively based on what you “read” on the internet. There may be 20 unreliability threads on the internet, but there’s thousands of RELIABLE bikes you don’t hear about because their out riding in Baja and not biatching on a forums page somewhere.
Your one of the positive reliability experiences, which could have contributed to 4,000 views of reliability views, but because your positive experience mentions all the “negative” experiences you’ve read on the internet, now this is 4,000 viewers thinking it’s another negative reliability issue.
Share YOUR experience of reliability and not what you read on internet on YOUR review video.
My 790 and 890 have both done multiple trips to baja Mexico, phx2 Vegas, Colorado adv, and more without any issues.
Otherwise all else was great honest feedback and perceptions we all need to hear/want to hear that we can’t get from a manicured magazine review! :)
Thank you
Thanks for your opinion.
I can appreciate the feedback.
I feel like I am giving MY honest experience with reliability by sharing the few problems I've experienced. Just because I share problems friends of mine and others have had on these bikes with legitimate concerns doesn't mean Im diving deep into the depths of the internet to find a problem and I don't know what Im talking about.
If I was sponsored by KTM I would have a different opinion. Good service would give me a different opinion.
I also understand why businesses who make profits from KTMs would say the same thing and defend KTMs reliability, I would do the same thing if that were me.
I'm not a ktm salesman, I'm just an average consumer who has ridden a few bikes and rode a few miles.
Im sharing MY all-around experience with ktm.
I know there are plenty of happy ktm riders and I expect some pushback from KTM fans.
I'll take note and in the future, I'll make it a point to share my successes more.
Love Honest Reviews...
Another awesome and honest review...the good, the bad, the ugly. If you sell the KTM 790 Adventure R, I have a bike for you. The new KTM 890 Adventure R ;-)
The 901 sounds interesting to me, its the most refined of the three ktms. Thanks brother!
@@MobMoto Check out Lyndon Poskitt's ride on one somewhere in the Azores.
@@greatfallskam Yes he builds rally bikes, I'm thinking about a rally build with a 450 or 501. Not sure why the rally bikes are not a thing in the US.
The 790 Adv. R has a dry weight of 189kg. 20 liters of petrol weigh 15kg. Together that's 204kg.
The wet weight is 470 lbs. Ktm list dry weight but its not just fuel missing from dry weight. Once you add accessories its close to 500lbs.
I have a S version that I upgraded the suspension on, TracTive fully adj, world of differance, but at 5'4" with a 27" inseam it still sucks getting a toe down
Thats not a bad route to take, probably the best for your situation. Thanks for watching!
Only 1 dealer in Vegas, really? There are 3-4 in the Denver area near me, so if one sucks, at least there are others you can visit. I've owned several KTM's and found they run hot/cold. If you get a good one, you're fine, but a bad one is really bad. As far as the one bike unicorn, my KTM 690 is the closest I've found. But I've put a ton of work into it to "Adv" it and it's nowhere near as good as a 790/890 on the highway. I do all the work on it myself, so I don't rely on a dealer. It also doesn't have nearly as much electronic stuff as the 790/890, so I don't need the dealer. I do think calling a 450-475lb Adv bike a "middleweight" is ridiculous, I agree it's still a really heavy bike for BDR type of riding
You're right. Very disappointing to spend that much with all the issues
Great review thanks very much
You put some serious miles on that bike in a year. Look forward to seeing what you replace it with.
Thanks Matt, I use to do 20K + on the GSA a year.
I have no idea what Im gonna get, everyday Im all over the place! Lol
We need to get together here pretty soon!
@@MobMoto we do, I will send you an email this week.
@@advmatt Im suppose to hang with a buddy in second half of February in death valley. Hes on a GS, maybe you're free one of those weekends. We can chat more later!
Majority of the UK dealers are also crap, I have a KTM 690 and would love an 890 but the after sales service puts me right off, not sure what the dealers problem is but they seem universally shit, my BMW dealer cant do enough for me when I take my GSA in for service, please KTM give your dealers a kick up the backside you will sell shed loads more bikes
maybe a Honda African Twin will be best bike for the type of ride that you do, is more reliable than ktm
Ive been looking at the Africa Twin a bunch, the DCT is sounding good. Im just not sure about the 16-19 or get a 20+.I wish there was a transalp available Id buy it in a heartbeat! Thanks for watching!
I love my 850gs...just sayin
Same, but all bikes are not perfect especially if you ride them Like Adventure Bikes.
Theyre excellent motorcycles! Thanks mate
Sounds like you are trying to convince yourself to get a lighter bike lol. I Rip on my 850gsa off road. Ride what you can handle.
I already have a 350, the 850s are nice but its just as heavy as the 1250s and $20,000 out the door. Thanks for watching!
Over 15k$ I want to travel nationwide without worry of breakdowns and finding help if it does.
Customer service is shit everywhere and imo it’s the generation that is shit. Cause & effect maybe but it’s managers that need to fix that issue & stealerships aren’t known for taking care of employees. Bidenomics cmon man
I smell a Yamaha coming your way…….
If I could find one, but im not looking to get raped right now. Lol
The fuel capacity is what turned me away before and its still an issue.
Thanks for watching!