how did you get 90%? ive had frozen shoulder for 2 years now, and i´m at my wits end!! ive tried everything, and still no real improvement, eg used 2 physios, 1 private + 1 on national health.(waste of time +money) I never stop doing some exercise. But cant see the day when i´ll be pain free.
Physical therapy and Tramadol saved me from having surgery on my frozen shoulder. I feel sorry for anyone fighting this malady. My shoulder is 100% back to normal.
Tramadol is a prescription drug. It does work for the pain. But hard to get lately. If anyone has this problem and can't get any, then I suggest getting some high quality red Kratom. It is legal in most places. Got to the local head shop or, better yet, order online. @@kristihigginbotham7083
A very painful condition. Experienced frozen shoulder to begin with in the left arm and then moved to right arm. I used a great massage therapist. Full range of motion in left arm, but right arm lost some rotation. Would not wish frozen shoulder on anyone.
Exactly going through this now, I'd take 3 day's of labor and delivery of my son again in a heartbeat 💓 💗 This Frozen shoulder is no joke it hurts like H**l
Really looking forward to the next two videos in this series. I am currently suffering from frozen shoulder that developed after I fell and broke my shoulder bone right at the top the end of May, and it's taking what seems like forever to get my range of motion back. Thanks Bob and Brad!
Thank you both Sooo much for all your TH-cam content.!!! I'm 17 months post motorcycle accident, and a lot of the edits have helped tremendously.! I truly can't thank you enough...!!!
I had frozen shoulder, bursitis and tendonitis all at the same time. It took months of therapy and cortisone shots before relief. Now as soon as I get a twinge I go to Bob and Brad for advice. They are great, wish I would have found them sooner. THANKS GUYS 🙌
@Terry Lee. Does this sound like frozen shoulder to you? I dont have any pain at all unless i move it. Can this still be frozen shoulder even if it has never ever once bothered me but only hurts with movement when i get to the max range of motion i can produce? My range of motion has been getting more and more limited but it doesnt ever hurt until i move it to my max range of motion. If i move within that it doesnt hurt if that makes sense. This video states that in the freezing stage theres pain in the shoulder even without movement. Ive never ever had any pain in my shoulder or any pain without movement. I feel it in the biceps (not shoulder) and its only with movement. if i dont move or move within my range of motion i dont hav pain until i reach my max range of motion which like i said is getting more and more limited. Could this all still be frozen shoulder?
I’ve just developed frozen shoulder and the pain is extreme. If childbirth is a 10, this is a 7-8. I don’t know if that’s normal but it’s absolutely awful, I can barely move my arm at all.
Thank both of you so much! You are just wonderful to help people for free. The pdfs are great and I found your videos more useful and informative than seeing my gp who gave me advice that ended-up with me getting a frozen shoulder.
The swinging pendulum exercise is the same principle I applied to my adductor injury, worked a treat. Thank you I will be doing these. I've struggled with my frozen shoulder for over a year
Thank you so much for your videos. I have had a separated hip and also recovered from open heart surgery and I would rate the pain from frozen shoulder JUST under the threshold of pain from those two. As a golfer when I had FS in my right side I couldn't fully swing a golf club for nearly 8 years and now it has happened on my left shoulder and it takes icing the shoulder and taking a anti-inflammatory plus about 40 swings just to loosen it up to play. I did not like my physical therapist because I felt like she was just going through the motions for 45 minutes then receiving nearly a $300 bill.
Excellent. A problem I’ve had some years ago so I’m keen to sort the pain and motion ASAP as it has recently started up again. Thanks very much for the tips.
I have Type 1 Diabetes and Stage 3 kidney disease I can't get the shots or take Advil. I use the Tens machine. I had calcium in my rotator cuff in my right shoulder. I had to get a procedure that caused me to get Frozen Shoulder. I was in PT year and and half. Now I have Frozen Shoulder in my left shoulder for no reason at all. It's so frustrating. I feel for anyone with this hell
Love you guys, I have a request, could you guys please do a video to help people with retropatellar chondropathy strengthen their knees please, I would really appreciate it.
Believe it or not I have been dealing with both shoulders frozen at the same time. It's been 8 months now in which I've been in intensive therapy and steroid. Shots. I'm 95% back with left shoulder. The right shoulder is slower about 60%. It's been hell. My doctor said that it's extremely unusual to have both frozen at same time. Hopefully it never happens again.
@@jeannebullock7653 16 months in the left side has returned to complete strength. The right side is 80% strength. My doctor has informed me it may be another 12 months. Working on building strength in shoulder, wrist and fingers. I am currently using infrared Heat therapy to reduce pain. It has helped greatly.
I am going through both shoulders in extreme pain and unable to sleep - only on my back on the couch and am waking up every 1 - 2 hours in pain for over three months now. I have to put ice on my shoulders and sit up and move my arms around to loosen my shoulders up before I can lay down again. This often takes an hour or more. This is an extreme nightmare I never could have imagined but it does compare to the nine months of back pain I had before surgery - both very debilitating. I have not been anywhere except to the doctor who prescribed anti-inflammatory medication and told me that I'd have this for life - that there was no further treatment. I can barely function - I can barely hold a coffee cup and bring it up to drink - it often takes two hands. My tendons and nerves hurt as well - they seem pinched. I feel very crippled and debilitated. Besides that I lost 35 pounds and my rear end is so sensitive I can't sit more that a few minutes and I have to walk or lay down. I had overstretched my groin in May and still hadn't recovered when this hit me in August 2023 so even walking is a chore.
How long does it last WITH TREATMENT? I’ve been getting treatment and doing the exercises for 5-6 weeks now. Great progress and I’ve almost got full mobility back. Still a little bit of pain when I push to the edge of my mobility. I know it can take a very long time if untreated, just wondering what I should expect.
Just got diagnosed with this. Started over summer with what felt like a very slight pulled muscle feeling when I'd reach by my head.. that was like july.. by September I noticed it wasn't better and slightly more painful when I'd reach but nothing bad. All of a sudden in december I'm having a hard time sleeping on that side and raising my arm hurts. January until now Feb 2.. I can't lift my arm or put it behind me! And it hurts/aches round the clock. Not fun
Thank you! I have learned a lot of info I didn’t realize I wish I had known sooner. I was diagnosed over 10 years ago with “frozen shoulder” and told to just take Tylenol. I was given no other information at the time, and the way the dr said it, it seemed very simple and I didn’t realize I needed to ask questions. At this point I have shoulder pain and loss of motion. It happened very slowly, and one day I just realized I had lost so much range of motion. If I see a dr for the current state of my shoulder, and am under their care and supervision, of course, would it be possible that I could regain any range of motion before having to consider surgery, or has it been too long, and I just have to accept the loss of motion barring surgery?
I have the same question and the same problem. My surgeon said that surgery might help me gain better range of motion, but probably not complete. I don't think Bob and Brad are reading comments though.
@@holmhelena Thank you for sharing that with me, about what your surgeon told you about possibly gaining some but not all range of motion from surgery. If you decide to go through with surgery, I’m wishing you the best. ☺️ For me, to gain back even a small bit of my lost range of motion would be tremendous. I think you’re right, as well, that Bob and Brad probably aren’t checking their comments. But there are so many videos and so many comments, I can see how they couldn’t keep up with them all.
Freezing phase is six to nine WEEKS? I see 2 - 9 months mentioned in other places. If it's weeks then I've already passed it and don't have frozen shoulder 🤞
Should I keep using my shoulder normally during the freezing? It really hurts to do so but will it help keep mobility or will it damage something? I feel like I need to be in a sling or immobilize it for pain, but I’m worried that will make it worse. I pack boxes for a living and it’s really difficult, I’m taking one naproxen a day Monday through Friday but I don’t know if I should keep doing that! It is only way I can work!
Try red Kratom. This is what works for me. Cuts the pain down considerably. If you don't care about your liver, then do 600mg of Tylenol and 600mg of Ibuprofen (or maybe Aleve) together.
@@jeannebullock7653 Its a little scary to me. I went thru a month of PT. My range is better. I am scheduled for surgery the 27 th. My shoulder is still frozen.
@@rmlhardage4952 I was so nervous for surgery but it went great and it was so nice to have the adhesions (FS) fixed and finally be out of pain! Keep up with PT post surgery. Good luck!! 🍀
Hey been watching you guys for a while. I think I'm in between phase 1 and 2. Its been months and only have stiffness in the am and pain with stretching. I'm most limited with external rotation in terms of ROM. Are there any self mobilizations that can be done to open it up?
I've been using a hot water bottle because its winter and cold so I find that ice is too temperature difficult. Does warmth do a worse job than ice does for frozen shoulder? thanks
I have no idea what my stage is. It's been 9 months since I first twisted my shoulder which hurt, and then brought on stiffness & more pain that increased over time. Now, I have increasing mobility and no daytime pain, but nightime is hell. I wake up every two hours EVERY NIGHT! Why so much pain at night? When will it end? This really sucks. Am I thawing, please say "yes."
I see that this happened to you a year ago. This is the stage that I am at now. Hope you got better. I am just hunkering down for the long haul and trying to manage the pain, especially at night. I know exactly what you mean by waking up every two hours. Miserable! Personally, I think I am in the freezing stage or maybe the beginning of the frozen stage. But being so painful, probably still the freezing stage even though it has been several months.
@@circa1890 It is MUCH better now. I would say that I am back to about 90% overall. It only hurts at night if I sleep on it "wrong" or for a long time. Range of motion is much improved, but not perfect yet. I was able to go to one massage therapist that specializes in things like frozen shoulder and he really gave it a good workout. Hurt like hell, but felt so good afterwards. He said to move it. So I have been doing stretching exercises and swimming which seems to have helped. Don't let it get stiffer from non-use. On the other hand, I would be careful about using it TOO hard. By chance, later on today I am going to see a PT about it. Other than that, I have just been doing things on my own and am happy to report good progress. Best of luck to you! One thing that I did use for the pain at times, was red Kratom. That helped me get through the tough times. Would take it once or twice a week just to take a break from the pain at night.
I'm three months into the freezing and it's terrible. Going to start up a few self treatments since nothing else has worked: -A TENS unit -TQI elimination diet -Hanging (I know, it sounds crazy but I'm to that place) Hope your journey goes better than mine..
Thats what i want to know too. My dr diagnosed me with frozen shoulder but i have NEVER had pain without movement. My pain is when i reach my max range of movement (no pain within my range of movement) which is getting more and more limited and my pain has always been felt in my biceps and like i said ive never had any pain without movement.
But mostly, you are doomed from a perfectly working body, active lifestyle, high level competititve sport to a crippled state and the medical system does not care to even admit they don't know what is the issue or do anything about it.
I use Tylenol and CBD muscle spray and oil for pain. I took one steriod shot…didn’t help. Been in PT a month…doing at home also. Surgery up next 27 th. My shoulder still frozen
Your videos are great thank you. I am about 90% recovered from frozen shoulder. Took TWO YEARS to thaw.
how did you get 90%? ive had frozen shoulder for 2 years now, and i´m at my wits end!! ive tried everything, and still no real improvement, eg used 2 physios, 1 private + 1 on national health.(waste of time +money) I never stop doing some exercise. But cant see the day when i´ll be pain free.
Physical therapy and Tramadol saved me from having surgery on my frozen shoulder. I feel sorry for anyone fighting this malady. My shoulder is 100% back to normal.
Hi there, how would surgery have helped?
what is tramadol ??
Tramadol is a prescription drug. It does work for the pain. But hard to get lately. If anyone has this problem and can't get any, then I suggest getting some high quality red Kratom. It is legal in most places. Got to the local head shop or, better yet, order online. @@kristihigginbotham7083
A very painful condition. Experienced frozen shoulder to begin with in the left arm and then moved to right arm. I used a great massage therapist. Full range of motion in left arm, but right arm lost some rotation. Would not wish frozen shoulder on anyone.
Exactly what happened with me. First the left shoulder which recovered well then horror of horror.it appeared again in the right.😳
Exactly going through this now, I'd take 3 day's of labor and delivery of my son again in a heartbeat 💓 💗 This Frozen shoulder is no joke it hurts like H**l
Excellent. Perfect timing as I’m awake at 4am with painful shoulder. Also did not know about the PDF print outs, so that is really helpful. Thank you.
How to do the pdf print out?
It is not available yet, but it is in the works! It will be on here: bobandbrad.com/programs
Really looking forward to the next two videos in this series. I am currently suffering from frozen shoulder that developed after I fell and broke my shoulder bone right at the top the end of May, and it's taking what seems like forever to get my range of motion back. Thanks Bob and Brad!
Same here... it's been a year & 1 & ½ months, just recovered 60% of forward movement, 2% of back movement... I'm diabetic 😢
Thank you both Sooo much for all your TH-cam content.!!! I'm 17 months post motorcycle accident, and a lot of the edits have helped tremendously.! I truly can't thank you enough...!!!
I had frozen shoulder, bursitis and tendonitis all at the same time. It took months of therapy and cortisone shots before relief. Now as soon as I get a twinge I go to Bob and Brad for advice. They are great, wish I would have found them sooner.
THANKS GUYS 🙌
Was the cortisone injections painful and how was it in the next two days after you took the injection? Thanks for replying
@Terry Lee. Does this sound like frozen shoulder to you? I dont have any pain at all unless i move it. Can this still be frozen shoulder even if it has never ever once bothered me but only hurts with movement when i get to the max range of motion i can produce? My range of motion has been getting more and more limited but it doesnt ever hurt until i move it to my max range of motion. If i move within that it doesnt hurt if that makes sense. This video states that in the freezing stage theres pain in the shoulder even without movement. Ive never ever had any pain in my shoulder or any pain without movement. I feel it in the biceps (not shoulder) and its only with movement. if i dont move or move within my range of motion i dont hav pain until i reach my max range of motion which like i said is getting more and more limited. Could this all still be frozen shoulder?
Absolutely perfect timing for this video! Thank you; I’ll watch it immediately!
If I have pain more in the shoulder blade area are these exercises just as helpful or are there others that would be more helpful?
I love this video❣️
If you do these exercises, does this keep you from having the second phase?
I’ve just developed frozen shoulder and the pain is extreme. If childbirth is a 10, this is a 7-8. I don’t know if that’s normal but it’s absolutely awful, I can barely move my arm at all.
Thank both of you so much! You are just wonderful to help people for free. The pdfs are great and I found your videos more useful and informative than seeing my gp who gave me advice that ended-up with me getting a frozen shoulder.
The swinging pendulum exercise is the same principle I applied to my adductor injury, worked a treat. Thank you I will be doing these. I've struggled with my frozen shoulder for over a year
Yeah, doing that now.
Thank you so much for your videos. I have had a separated hip and also recovered from open heart surgery and I would rate the pain from frozen shoulder JUST under the threshold of pain from those two. As a golfer when I had FS in my right side I couldn't fully swing a golf club for nearly 8 years and now it has happened on my left shoulder and it takes icing the shoulder and taking a anti-inflammatory plus about 40 swings just to loosen it up to play. I did not like my physical therapist because I felt like she was just going through the motions for 45 minutes then receiving nearly a $300 bill.
Great videos for Frozen Shoulder. Thanks for posting
Excellent. A problem I’ve had some years ago so I’m keen to sort the pain and motion ASAP as it has recently started up again. Thanks very much for the tips.
I have Type 1 Diabetes and Stage 3 kidney disease I can't get the shots or take Advil. I use the Tens machine.
I had calcium in my rotator cuff in my right shoulder. I had to get a procedure that caused me to get Frozen Shoulder. I was in PT year and and half. Now I have Frozen Shoulder in my left shoulder for no reason at all. It's so frustrating.
I feel for anyone with this hell
Hi guys, was wondering if you have made a video of what to do when in the frozen phase, I have finally passed the freezing phase . finally
Love you guys, I have a request, could you guys please do a video to help people with retropatellar chondropathy strengthen their knees please, I would really appreciate it.
Believe it or not I have been dealing with both shoulders frozen at the same time. It's been 8 months now in which I've been in intensive therapy and steroid. Shots. I'm 95% back with left shoulder. The right shoulder is slower about 60%. It's been hell. My doctor said that it's extremely unusual to have both frozen at same time. Hopefully it never happens again.
I hope you’re doing better! 💛 @cheryl
@@jeannebullock7653 16 months in the left side has returned to complete strength. The right side is 80% strength. My doctor has informed me it may be another 12 months. Working on building strength in shoulder, wrist and fingers. I am currently using infrared Heat therapy to reduce pain. It has helped greatly.
I am going through both shoulders in extreme pain and unable to sleep - only on my back on the couch and am waking up every 1 - 2 hours in pain for over three months now. I have to put ice on my shoulders and sit up and move my arms around to loosen my shoulders up before I can lay down again. This often takes an hour or more. This is an extreme nightmare I never could have imagined but it does compare to the nine months of back pain I had before surgery - both very debilitating. I have not been anywhere except to the doctor who prescribed anti-inflammatory medication and told me that I'd have this for life - that there was no further treatment. I can barely function - I can barely hold a coffee cup and bring it up to drink - it often takes two hands. My tendons and nerves hurt as well - they seem pinched. I feel very crippled and debilitated. Besides that I lost 35 pounds and my rear end is so sensitive I can't sit more that a few minutes and I have to walk or lay down. I had overstretched my groin in May and still hadn't recovered when this hit me in August 2023 so even walking is a chore.
this vid is gold FS since April
Fact: This channel is goated 🐐
Thank you so much for this video, and all of your videos.
I like Epsom salt baths for this. Also moist heat with epsom salt soak and a heating pad, alternating with ice.
Thankyou very much. .Iam suffering past one year.
How long does it last WITH TREATMENT? I’ve been getting treatment and doing the exercises for 5-6 weeks now. Great progress and I’ve almost got full mobility back. Still a little bit of pain when I push to the edge of my mobility. I know it can take a very long time if untreated, just wondering what I should expect.
Just got diagnosed with this. Started over summer with what felt like a very slight pulled muscle feeling when I'd reach by my head.. that was like july.. by September I noticed it wasn't better and slightly more painful when I'd reach but nothing bad. All of a sudden in december I'm having a hard time sleeping on that side and raising my arm hurts. January until now Feb 2.. I can't lift my arm or put it behind me! And it hurts/aches round the clock. Not fun
Are you better now? If so, did you feel give all at once, or did your arm slowly return back to normal?
Super thanks so much. Doing them now.
Thank you! I have learned a lot of info I didn’t realize I wish I had known sooner. I was diagnosed over 10 years ago with “frozen shoulder” and told to just take Tylenol. I was given no other information at the time, and the way the dr said it, it seemed very simple and I didn’t realize I needed to ask questions.
At this point I have shoulder pain and loss of motion. It happened very slowly, and one day I just realized I had lost so much range of motion.
If I see a dr for the current state of my shoulder, and am under their care and supervision, of course, would it be possible that I could regain any range of motion before having to consider surgery, or has it been too long, and I just have to accept the loss of motion barring surgery?
I have the same question and the same problem. My surgeon said that surgery might help me gain better range of motion, but probably not complete. I don't think Bob and Brad are reading comments though.
@@holmhelena Thank you for sharing that with me, about what your surgeon told you about possibly gaining some but not all range of motion from surgery. If you decide to go through with surgery, I’m wishing you the best. ☺️
For me, to gain back even a small bit of my lost range of motion would be tremendous.
I think you’re right, as well, that Bob and Brad probably aren’t checking their comments. But there are so many videos and so many comments, I can see how they couldn’t keep up with them all.
Freezing phase is six to nine WEEKS? I see 2 - 9 months mentioned in other places. If it's weeks then I've already passed it and don't have frozen shoulder 🤞
Yeah I've had it 6 months easy!
I’m at 4th month of freezing still very very painful. I was told by my ortho it can be up to 9mth this first phase
thank you! for the video for freezing phase. Where are the next videos?
Should I keep using my shoulder normally during the freezing? It really hurts to do so but will it help keep mobility or will it damage something? I feel like I need to be in a sling or immobilize it for pain, but I’m worried that will make it worse. I pack boxes for a living and it’s really difficult, I’m taking one naproxen a day Monday through Friday but I don’t know if I should keep doing that! It is only way I can work!
Try red Kratom. This is what works for me. Cuts the pain down considerably. If you don't care about your liver, then do 600mg of Tylenol and 600mg of Ibuprofen (or maybe Aleve) together.
Some theories are it could be related to an auto-immune factor? Other studies say many people with diabetes have a slight increase in frozen shoulder.
Very helpful, I used a pool noodle to roll shoulder out.
I was just dignosed with frozen shoulder…1 st phase. Fixing to do physical therapy. I have a tare. Suppose to do surgery
Mary, how are you doing? I had a labral tear and wound up with frozen shoulder. Shoulder surgery went really good! I’m finally pain free.
@@jeannebullock7653 Its a little scary to me. I went thru a month of PT. My range is better. I am scheduled for surgery the 27 th. My shoulder is still frozen.
@@rmlhardage4952 I was so nervous for surgery but it went great and it was so nice to have the adhesions (FS) fixed and finally be out of pain! Keep up with PT post surgery. Good luck!! 🍀
When I try the pendulum method, it feels like my arm is going to fall out of the socket. I can't do it. Hurts too much.
We don't ever recommend continuing anything that is causing you more pain or new pain, so yes, please stop doing that one.
@@BobandBrad Thank you so much for replying. I'll do the other stretches then. Those I can manage.
If you address at the freezing phase can you prevent it getting frozen?
I was wondering that myself. I would do anything to prevent it.
Hey been watching you guys for a while. I think I'm in between phase 1 and 2. Its been months and only have stiffness in the am and pain with stretching. I'm most limited with external rotation in terms of ROM. Are there any self mobilizations that can be done to open it up?
Hello papa Bob, Papa Brad
Does doing these motions stop it from progressing to the next phase? Or is it going to progress and these just help lessen it?
would this be applicable for people with bursitis?
I have frozen shoulder a bit on anterior flexing due to dislocated shoulder
I've been using a hot water bottle because its winter and cold so I find that ice is too temperature difficult. Does warmth do a worse job than ice does for frozen shoulder? thanks
Are some of the arm feelings numbness or tingling? or the heavy deadweight kind of pain..
Hey Bob and Brad - went to your site. No frozen shoulders currently on site.
I find the heat allows me range if movement without pain not cold. Also can I use a infra red ray lamp on my shoukder
Shoulder
During freezing phase is it good to use a hot pack or cold pack?
Cold pack
I waited 6 months before I went to the doctor. Now I regret it
I have no idea what my stage is. It's been 9 months since I first twisted my shoulder which hurt, and then brought on stiffness & more pain that increased over time. Now, I have increasing mobility and no daytime pain, but nightime is hell. I wake up every two hours EVERY NIGHT! Why so much pain at night? When will it end? This really sucks. Am I thawing, please say "yes."
I see that this happened to you a year ago. This is the stage that I am at now. Hope you got better. I am just hunkering down for the long haul and trying to manage the pain, especially at night. I know exactly what you mean by waking up every two hours. Miserable! Personally, I think I am in the freezing stage or maybe the beginning of the frozen stage. But being so painful, probably still the freezing stage even though it has been several months.
@@jeffs9302I am now where you were at.. how's it going for you now?
@@circa1890 It is MUCH better now. I would say that I am back to about 90% overall. It only hurts at night if I sleep on it "wrong" or for a long time. Range of motion is much improved, but not perfect yet.
I was able to go to one massage therapist that specializes in things like frozen shoulder and he really gave it a good workout. Hurt like hell, but felt so good afterwards. He said to move it. So I have been doing stretching exercises and swimming which seems to have helped. Don't let it get stiffer from non-use. On the other hand, I would be careful about using it TOO hard. By chance, later on today I am going to see a PT about it. Other than that, I have just been doing things on my own and am happy to report good progress. Best of luck to you!
One thing that I did use for the pain at times, was red Kratom. That helped me get through the tough times. Would take it once or twice a week just to take a break from the pain at night.
Hello
6 weeks into the freezing phase and I can't sleep. It's hell.
I'm three months into the freezing and it's terrible.
Going to start up a few self treatments since nothing else has worked:
-A TENS unit
-TQI elimination diet
-Hanging (I know, it sounds crazy but I'm to that place)
Hope your journey goes better than mine..
🕉️ 🙏 SHANTI
Is there always a freezing phase?
Thats what i want to know too. My dr diagnosed me with frozen shoulder but i have NEVER had pain without movement. My pain is when i reach my max range of movement (no pain within my range of movement) which is getting more and more limited and my pain has always been felt in my biceps and like i said ive never had any pain without movement.
Freezing, frozen too
How to do the pdf printout?
It is not available yet, but it is in the works! It will be on here: bobandbrad.com/programs
I had no relief from injection!
This is my second time having a frozen shoulder. Unbearable.
Currently suffering 😡
But mostly, you are doomed from a perfectly working body, active lifestyle, high level competititve sport to a crippled state and the medical system does not care to even admit they don't know what is the issue or do anything about it.
Steroids are terrible! What else?
I use Tylenol and CBD muscle spray and oil for pain. I took one steriod shot…didn’t help. Been in PT a month…doing at home also. Surgery up next 27 th. My shoulder still frozen