Gotta admit, I love those west coast RVs, and that Jayco appeals to on a very basic level. As nice as slides are, if you plan on pulling something all over the place, a no slide camper has some advantages. If you plan on long haul trips, no slide means complete access in a parking lot overnight stay or where ever you are. Plus like you mentioned, one less thing to go wrong.
I have a no slide JayCo with queen bed and the bath has a separate shower. We love it. Pull over and eat lunch and use the bathroom with ease. Back it in and level it and you are done, boom! And it’s a little more light weight as well.
I saw some dinette only floorplans and some without ladders but I didn’t notice how many had a plastic toilet 🙁My favorite no slide couple’s camper would have to include a sofa or recliners, a porcelain toilet, a true queen bed and an attached ladder👍
Total slide skeptic here also! Thanks Mr & Mrs Schooley for the video suggestion. We currently don’t have slides and we love that about our rig. So we aren’t sure which floor plan to buy next (we have a few years) since most have slides. Some great options here!
Thanks for this compilation! Definitely a slide skeptic. Lower weight, lower maintenance, less chance of leaks, no question about being Cracker Barrel compatible. What's not to like!
Fellow "no-slide enthusiast" here! I loved this video and I would be interested in a similar video for bunkhouses or family-friendly campers (preferably for a family of 5+ if I can be extra picky 😁). As always, thank you for all you do and thank you for yet another awesome video!
There is no list to be made... you're looking for a Grand Design Transcend Xplor 247BH. End of list. (yes, I'm biased because I have one, but they're GREAT!)
@@dshall442 ha! It's funny you say that because that one is actually at the top of my current list. We'll be buying probably around February and so far that's the leader. 😁 I absolutely *love* that floorplan. 👍👍
I have an Avenger 26BK with family of 5. It works pretty well. All 5 of us can watch a movie together if we want to (2 in the dinette and 3 on the couch). And we have our own bedroom.
I'm loving that Class A you showed. You called it "old school" and it really is. We're currently restoring a 1988 Elite 36' Class A that has a floor plan almost exactly like that! I was blown away that there's a new one being made with that same convenient no-nonsense design. Maybe more RVers and Mfgrs are coming around and seeing the light! As a side note, we've found that a bunk house trailer makes a great couples camper - just pull out the mattresses and put in some thin carpet... there's amazing storage in those spaces. We keep chairs, grills, coolers, extra food and bevereges, all kinds of things in there.
Hey I agree with your number one pick, because the 24JS-BL in your video is the very one we purchased. Enjoyed it on our two week vacation to Georgia in June and last weekend at the state park less than 2 miles from where we store it.
In an effort to limit water leaks and mechanical problems I became slide-shy. We are glad we got our 2020 Grey Wolf 25RL when we did since it has been discontinued. Large rear window with a sofa and a full width midship bath did it for us.
REALLY LIKE THIS!!! It is great to see a listing of those campers that are competing in the same market segments! The wife and I are still thinking we are in the "No Slide Needed" camp at this point, so this is great stuff! I do think the East to West Della-Terra 230 RB should get a ranking in here too, as I am becoming a real fan of this brand! (It does need a Window in the door too!) Thanks as always for putting this info all together! You're the Best! ~Lou
Slide out have their advantages no doubt. I’ve had both and the one key thing I noticed besides room and the additional maintenance and leak point is the additional WEIGHT. Omg you can make a 4000lb camper jump to 5500-6000lb easy making a sensible 1/2ton towable camper to require a larger 3/4 ton truck. I found this out the hard way. Got a wonderful deal on a palomino puma so we traded our sunline only to realize once I hit the highway my dodge 1500 was way way way to weak. Something I never thought about. Oh I was told it could be towed by a 1500 but it was not a good idea.
Hello Mr. the RV Nerd. Love these videos! Really enjoy the ones where you give a shout-out to a subscriber. Have you ever done a top five best bathrooms? Or is that just too weird?
The Grey wolf floor plan is great, except for one deal breaker. The deal breaker is where the water heater is located. I want a pass through storage up front. With the water heater where it is, much of the storage is pretty useless, either that or have to nearly empty the storage to get to the stuff stored in the middle towards the left side,
I can respect that for sure. I understand why they standardized that Fernando across their entire lineup but I also agree losing a pass thru is kind of tough.
I’m one of those anti-slide folks, thanks for putting this together. In love with the northwood, if I ever go bumper pull they would be my first choice.
I like the semi-private bedroom in the Freedom Express 20SE and the Jay Flight 212QB. While the sleeping area is still visible it gives the feel of a multiple room trailer. I wish someone would do the Grey Wolf layout with a wall behind the couch to allow for a private bedroom and a small slide for the range and sink. I've seen it with the dinette on the park side in larger trailers but we prefer a dinette on the camp side so we have view of the campsite and woods at our regular state parks sites rather than the road.
@@JoshtheRVNerd The East to West is close but I should have mentioned no wood or aluminum siding (aluminum frame and fiberglass only). Plus it doesn't have a slide for the kitchen (we are slide people).
My current camper is a no slide 2020 Shasta 26BH, Shasta quality is a little to be desired... but the layout is something for a no slide unit that other companies should consider. No slides, makes them lighter, less to go wrong and if you make the camper too big, too nice, too comfortable, you stay in it...a camper is a place to sleep and make food to make your travels cheaper as you enjoy the OUTDOORS. Examples, I did a 4 week vacation to the Badlands, Yellowstone/Grand Tetons and Eastern Tennessee for $5,500. I spent 5 weeks in Florida, including 2 in Key West for $4,500. I spend the same $ on a month long vacation as I used to on a 1 week vacation staying in hotels, flights and restaurants, so I have more money, I vacation MORE and have MORE fun. Don't get sucked into buying the nicest camper you can afford, you still need money left over to travel and do fun things. A no slide just might be your perfect camper. 😁😁👍👍
Josh: Thanks. YES! YES! YES! You’ve pegged five great no slide selections and three honorable mentions. Come 2025, when wife and I are old and feeble and can travel trailer no more, we might be looking to swap up to that Coachmen Pursuit 27XPS or maybe a Coachmen 27QB class C (if they ever go back into production) or even a Forester TS2381 on the Ford Transit chassis. Until then, we’ll just keep the tires on the Coachmen 204 RD rolling down the road for a few more years. Respectfully, W.S. P.S. Don’t slides really belong on a kid’s playground and not in an RV? 😊😊😊😊😊😊
I have yet to see a floor plan exactly like a Jayco 212qb. Love the extra sofa and having the dinette with the big windows out back. The no slide motor home you showed was almost the same except the sofa and dinette were at the front!
Man.. there are so few brands even building destination models by comparison... Most builders also paused production of those the past two years but word is they'll be coming back for 2023's
Love it! Great Top 5! Not sure if you have had a chance to take a look at these other "No Slide" campers: Prowler 240RB (Great Kitchen for a no slide) or a Zinger 259FL (Unreal counter space & Unique front living room).
I tried for a YEAR to get my hands on one to record It's literally THE OLDEST entry on my video hit list Every bish's store I visit with one of those is ALWAYS sold out
I wish Rockwood would make a no-slide mini-lite. Follow an airstream layout or like the In TechTerra -- opposing bathrooms (one toilet/one shower), rear bed and front dinette/lounge. It's that missing product -- not entry-level, stick/tin but the Rockwood quality and build.
There aren’t many really good independent RV parts and repair facilities left but when you find one ask them this question. I’m very familiar with 3 in the southwest and here’s the question you ask, what part of an RV do you do the most repairs on? Slides, electric awnings with wind sensors and residential refrigerators. Other than structural items these are usually the most expensive repairs many of which happen even with careful maintenance.
@@JoshtheRVNerd so I went to my local RV dealer to look at a Salem Cruise lite. Ended up really liking a Zinger 219RB. I've never heard of one & can't find an honest to goodness review. I'd love for you to give me your honest opinion.
@@mymomsroadrage1281 zinger has gone thru a few phases. For a long while they were were ultra ULTRA low budget I have only seen a few recently but they seem to have become really smart and solid. Not flashy, not loaded. But done well from what little I have seen
No love for the Cherokee Grey Wolf 20RDSE? Love that the rear part of it is totally customizeable, no water heater or baggage area back there, you can make it into anything you want.
My personal preference is for things like the split sofa/dinette like the jay flight 212qb but I could easily see someone preferring the grey wolf. It’s subjective for sure
Almost zero no-slide RVs are rated for cold camping. Northwood might be one of the new REALLY doing it A few good cold-camp rated brands to consider might be Cougar, Eagle, Reflection.. but usually smaller RVs don't quite have the same bulky weather pkg as larger stuff
I have wanted to get my hands on one to record since the day I first saw that floor plan. I can't believe it hasnt been copied by different builders. What i've seen of that layout looks amazing
Thanks you, Josh, I am/Uhm/wassss in between a Toy Hauler, OR Class Class C...I was pretty firm on these choices in 3 years I have been learning what would suit me best! I hadn't researched travel trailers, these are pretty nice, thanks for showing us what's out there, and...lol. Thanks for the confusion agghhhh, I guess my mind has opened to another option😂 I liked the video on the Embers so now I am watching all of your videos!
First of all... i love that you watch regularly enough to use my silly phrasing Secondly.. solid idea. A few of my favorites are the 22RR Video Here: bit.ly/3EFholK and the Wildwood 190RT Video here: bit.ly/3ybuiFA
Actually.. you're the first to know this. I'm scheduled to be visiting our Meridian HQ August 22-26 I should be around the dealership Monday, Maybe Early Tuesday, Maybe some Friday, but doing some meetings Wed/Thurs all day
great video once again and informative. Are you ever going to do any videos on the Outdoor RV trailers? I saw hat they are carried at one of the mid-west stores
very nice list,,, nice to see a motorhome made its way into your list. just wondering does Bish's sell Airstreams? and lastly, do you see a "top 5 Motorhomes" in your future. Keep up the good work.
8:12 HA! THERE'S that little cooker hooker connector protector I mentioned was missing on all the other rv's I've seen :) Who'da thunk, never seen one until I say I've never seen one, then "Whoomp! There it is..." :)
Josh can you check out a Crossroads Zinger ZR259FL it looks fantastic as couples campers with no slides! Thank you!! Love your show, the hubby and get a kick out of watching you!
I'd like to see a list of at or under 20' campers reasonably priced for a solo full time. Looking into buying one next spring. I respect your opinion and want to know what choices are out there
It seems that class C motorhomes, truck campers and basic travel trailers are a lot of what there is if you want to choose between no slideouts or a slideout.
We have intech at a few stores but they're a builder that focuses on building right instead of building fast... so we're pretty much always sold out Jayco recently copied intech pretty hard with their new Jay Feather volare. I'll be interested to see how people think of the two but yeah -- i'll get some intech stuff when I can
@@JoshtheRVNerd We understand about InTech being slow. We waited months like everyone else for our Terra. We look forward to your review of one when you can. We LOVE your videos.
I'm not sure you could even make a top 5 from that. This industry doesn't make taller stuff often. BUT... I have some ideas for you (oddly.. travel trailers are the best option for tall people) 1.) Eagle HT has 7ft ceilings 2.) Reflection has 7ft ceilings 3.) "Eagle"-proper has 7'3" Ceilings 4.) Destination Trailers (often called park models) usually have ceilings ranging from 8ft high to 8'6" Beyond that.. I'm not really aware of much
Man... MAN.. that's tough. It depends a bit on the sort of category I'm seeking Like for a big FW that 382FLRB north point is just beast mode and I really like the new white hawk 24MRB (video and preview coming soon!) I'd have to really think about this one
Josh i know your a big fan of ember im surprised the 170mrb wasn't on the list. Also Im a big fan of the geo pro 15tb a king bed in a trailer that size is amazing
Man it's so SO tough boiling things down like this. No matter what SOMETHING gets left off. Sometimes I feel like I could make a top 20 and someone would say "yeah but you forgot THIS one" and ... they'd be right
I love you're videos. I have been watching a ton of them getting a feel for what all the different campers have to offer. I have two questions are there any other manufacturers that compare with the bunk load rating that jayco offers? 2nd are there any 5th wheels that work better then others with lifted trucks. Bunkhouse perferd
1st.. thank you so kindly for the nice words here today :) To your questions: *OTHER 600LB RATED BUNKS?* I actually think there are others but they likely under-rate their bunks. Jayco seems to be pretty exclusive in that regard *FWs FOR LIFTED TRUCKS?* None I know of specifically. MFGs build for factory standard vehicles usually
Thanks for the reply i have one more question. Have you had any issues with the new Ford F-250 or F-350 tremors Being to tell for 5th wheels. My truck is about 1 inche teller then where they are.
@@BallisticMachinist so I am not directly involved enough with the hitching up of rvs anymore and don’t feel well qualified to assist here. I would actually call for a service person at an rv store to ask that one
Josh, can you please do a good video of fifth wheel toy haulers without slides? I know of only a few, XLR Micro Boost 301LRLE, KZ Sportster 280TH, but I thought with your knowledge, you would know of some more. My wife and I have been shopping for a while, now, and we have come to the conclusion that an older couple with two motorcycles that hope to stay in some state parks and travel has very few options. We want zero slides and shorter length to fit in more places. Please help. Thanks!
Real talk here: They're so rare YOU know of more of them than I do myself. They're about as rare as hen's teeth anymore and I wish I could tell you why. The only other thing I could think of you haven't listed here is something like a bit ATC fifth wheel
Yes, I will take one please. Oh, but my wife will not sign off on not having at least one slide. Of course, she wants a mid bunk/bonus room 5'th. wheel and I only have a 1/2 ton truck at the moment.
hey uncle josh, have you ever done a "best sounding rvs" video? Might be a silly idea but i realized i havent seen many reviews or overviews of RV stereo systems. just a thought...
I have not. It's not something I've ever really tested Though the president of Bish's RV kept hooking up to various RVs with his phone and cranking music via bluetooth at the recent Jayco dealer display to see how they actually sound The one that surprised us was how a common Jay Feather's outside speakers sounded better than a big Seismic's speakers lol
Thank you I am so tired of slides Wish companies would stop leaning on them so hard Use to be a time where an RV was specified as "slide out", but now the opposite is true. The marketplace is inundated with slide outs that one has to specify they don't want one and their options are limited at best.
Also, why did Forest River do away with their remote? I use mine (2016 Salem 27RKSS) all of the time for slide, awning, stablizers and lights. Wish it included tounge jack.
I'm not sure. It's possible the supplier stopped offering it because I know they had them for a long time A LOOOOT of brands are now adopting things like the LCI one control system you can operate remotely from your phone
Am liking the “no slide” rvs Was wondering if you have done a Crossroads Zinger lite 259fl? I’m really interested in this model Was curious about what you thought of it
I feel confidently I have THE answer for you actually.. though It's kind of an ugly answer MFGs build what sells. It's pretty much that simple. No-Slide fifth wheels or even stick and tin fifth wheels are something that proved less and less popular over the years Kind of like how nearly no MFGs are currently building popups or hybrids. They're a dying breed I think
My wife and I would prefer no dinette and just a tray or removable table for theater reclining seats. No reason to have both for just a couple is there?
everyone's opinions seem to vary. Only a few years ago "no dinette means no sale" was a common saying. Now... there's a LOT of people who say "why do they still put these space wasting dinettes in campers?" But there's still a lot of folks who want/need dinettes for various reasons. I don't see them going away any time soon if ever
yeah there’s some differences there. Nash tends to be a LITTLE more off-grid focused and basic inside while Arctic Fox is slightly more tuned to being a little more comfy on the inside. The differences start boiling down in their features and amenities + layouts
Thank you for the suggestion, Schooley. I am now looking at my following RV selection. The no-slide option is on point.
He's a smart fella :)
Gotta admit, I love those west coast RVs, and that Jayco appeals to on a very basic level. As nice as slides are, if you plan on pulling something all over the place, a no slide camper has some advantages. If you plan on long haul trips, no slide means complete access in a parking lot overnight stay or where ever you are. Plus like you mentioned, one less thing to go wrong.
I have a no slide JayCo with queen bed and the bath has a separate shower. We love it. Pull over and eat lunch and use the bathroom with ease. Back it in and level it and you are done, boom! And it’s a little more light weight as well.
Great suggestions, yes no slides less to break
I saw some dinette only floorplans and some without ladders but I didn’t notice how many had a plastic toilet 🙁My favorite no slide couple’s camper would have to include a sofa or recliners, a porcelain toilet, a true queen bed and an attached ladder👍
Love my no slide, walk around queen bed, dual axle, separate shower JayCo!
@@ericjohnson8571 Sounds awesome! Does it also have a sofa, a porcelain toilet and an attached ladder👍
It does have a sofa but the toilet is plastic. So 50/50?
@@ericjohnson8571 Queen bed, sofa and attached ladder is very close to perfect👍
Love the reviews. I don’t want slides either. These look great.
Thanks for watching!
Thank you Mr. And Mrs. Schooley and Josh 😊😊👍👍👍👍👍
Total slide skeptic here also! Thanks Mr & Mrs Schooley for the video suggestion. We currently don’t have slides and we love that about our rig. So we aren’t sure which floor plan to buy next (we have a few years) since most have slides. Some great options here!
I love all of them. They are beautiful inside. Love the kitchens in all of them. You are great 👍
Thanks for this compilation! Definitely a slide skeptic. Lower weight, lower maintenance, less chance of leaks, no question about being Cracker Barrel compatible. What's not to like!
Fellow "no-slide enthusiast" here! I loved this video and I would be interested in a similar video for bunkhouses or family-friendly campers (preferably for a family of 5+ if I can be extra picky 😁). As always, thank you for all you do and thank you for yet another awesome video!
There is no list to be made... you're looking for a Grand Design Transcend Xplor 247BH. End of list. (yes, I'm biased because I have one, but they're GREAT!)
@@dshall442 ha! It's funny you say that because that one is actually at the top of my current list. We'll be buying probably around February and so far that's the leader. 😁
I absolutely *love* that floorplan. 👍👍
No slide bunks you say?
Give me one week. I'll do it.
I'm reading the comments between you two... you're going to laugh
Guess what my #1 no slide bunkhouse pick it? :)
I have an Avenger 26BK with family of 5. It works pretty well. All 5 of us can watch a movie together if we want to (2 in the dinette and 3 on the couch). And we have our own bedroom.
I’m very happy that there are some no slide rv’s available. My 2 favorites from this video are the Artic Fox and the Jayco 212.
TY Rod!
Thank you! After 4 years with our RV, we have decided to go the “no slide out” route. This helps us get ready for 2023! Again, thanks.
Our pleasure!
I'm loving that Class A you showed. You called it "old school" and it really is. We're currently restoring a 1988 Elite 36' Class A that has a floor plan almost exactly like that! I was blown away that there's a new one being made with that same convenient no-nonsense design. Maybe more RVers and Mfgrs are coming around and seeing the light! As a side note, we've found that a bunk house trailer makes a great couples camper - just pull out the mattresses and put in some thin carpet... there's amazing storage in those spaces. We keep chairs, grills, coolers, extra food and bevereges, all kinds of things in there.
Thx for watching!!
We just bought a 24js. Absolutely agree with it being the best for couples. My wife and I really fell in love with it. Feels so much bigger then 24’.
Congrats Brian! I hope she treats you well :)
The Northwood is the cream of the crop! Built to last.
Looking specifically for a No Slide RV, so this was terrific info!
Glad it's hepful! :)
YEESSSSS!!!!!! I've been waiting for this one 😍 There are some really sweet rigs in that list!
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All nice! Freedom express very nice! I love not having the big window above the bed!
😊 Thank you for watching!
Love the second one!!
Hey I agree with your number one pick, because the 24JS-BL in your video is the very one we purchased. Enjoyed it on our two week vacation to Georgia in June and last weekend at the state park less than 2 miles from where we store it.
Perfect! TY for watching :)
My favorite travel trailer Freedom Express 20 SE. glad this has no windshield in nose.
It seems like there's a lot of interest against windshields recently vs the past few years. TY for sharing your preferences!
Out of the trailers you showed, I’ve always liked the Jayco 212QB. In my opinion, it is almost the perfect couples trailer.
It’s seriously almost the one that sets the car for the category at this point
In an effort to limit water leaks and mechanical problems I became slide-shy. We are glad we got our 2020 Grey Wolf 25RL when we did since it has been discontinued. Large rear window with a sofa and a full width midship bath did it for us.
I always preferred that one over the 20rdse and still don’t get why it wasn’t more popular
REALLY LIKE THIS!!! It is great to see a listing of those campers that are competing in the same market segments! The wife and I are still thinking we are in the "No Slide Needed" camp at this point, so this is great stuff! I do think the East to West Della-Terra 230 RB should get a ranking in here too, as I am becoming a real fan of this brand! (It does need a Window in the door too!) Thanks as always for putting this info all together! You're the Best! ~Lou
Our pleasure!
Thanks for this review Josh! Great selection!
My pleasure!
A video idea could be '5 affordable dual axle Murphy bed RV's'. This no-slide list is really helpful! Thanks for putting it together for us :)
Thanks for the idea!
The smaller camper with the engine was cool
I didn't realize anyone was even still building something like that. Such a great timeless design
Slide out have their advantages no doubt. I’ve had both and the one key thing I noticed besides room and the additional maintenance and leak point is the additional WEIGHT. Omg you can make a 4000lb camper jump to 5500-6000lb easy making a sensible 1/2ton towable camper to require a larger 3/4 ton truck. I found this out the hard way. Got a wonderful deal on a palomino puma so we traded our sunline only to realize once I hit the highway my dodge 1500 was way way way to weak. Something I never thought about. Oh I was told it could be towed by a 1500 but it was not a good idea.
facts!
Hello Mr. the RV Nerd. Love these videos! Really enjoy the ones where you give a shout-out to a subscriber. Have you ever done a top five best bathrooms? Or is that just too weird?
Not wierd at all. You have people that hate bathrooms and others that love them.
I haven't but... I mean.. is anything "too weird" for me really?! lol :)
We have a puma 19rl that has close to the jayco and we love it
I am not a big slide fan either. Need to check out the Artic Fox again.
well,having seen these,i'm 100% a slide guy.confirming we made the right choice with our couples trailer.
Confirmation and peace of mind is a wonderful thing!
We will be buying the 20rdse. U dinette is very versatile. See you in the spring
It’s a great pick! Lot of those out there
The Grey wolf floor plan is great, except for one deal breaker. The deal breaker is where the water heater is located. I want a pass through storage up front. With the water heater where it is, much of the storage is pretty useless, either that or have to nearly empty the storage to get to the stuff stored in the middle towards the left side,
I can respect that for sure. I understand why they standardized that Fernando across their entire lineup but I also agree losing a pass thru is kind of tough.
Number 1 is my favorite because of the outside kitchen and no slides...
I’m one of those anti-slide folks, thanks for putting this together. In love with the northwood, if I ever go bumper pull they would be my first choice.
My pleasure!
I like the semi-private bedroom in the Freedom Express 20SE and the Jay Flight 212QB. While the sleeping area is still visible it gives the feel of a multiple room trailer.
I wish someone would do the Grey Wolf layout with a wall behind the couch to allow for a private bedroom and a small slide for the range and sink. I've seen it with the dinette on the park side in larger trailers but we prefer a dinette on the camp side so we have view of the campsite and woods at our regular state parks sites rather than the road.
The grey wolf layout with a wall behind the couch for a private bedroom?
...I got you :)
See here: bit.ly/3NYKNeJ
and Enjoy :)
@@JoshtheRVNerd The East to West is close but I should have mentioned no wood or aluminum siding (aluminum frame and fiberglass only). Plus it doesn't have a slide for the kitchen (we are slide people).
@@JoshtheRVNerd I really believe that the East to West 230 RB Della-Terra should be classified as "1A".....super looking camper!!!
My current camper is a no slide 2020 Shasta 26BH, Shasta quality is a little to be desired... but the layout is something for a no slide unit that other companies should consider. No slides, makes them lighter, less to go wrong and if you make the camper too big, too nice, too comfortable, you stay in it...a camper is a place to sleep and make food to make your travels cheaper as you enjoy the OUTDOORS. Examples, I did a 4 week vacation to the Badlands, Yellowstone/Grand Tetons and Eastern Tennessee for $5,500. I spent 5 weeks in Florida, including 2 in Key West for $4,500. I spend the same $ on a month long vacation as I used to on a 1 week vacation staying in hotels, flights and restaurants, so I have more money, I vacation MORE and have MORE fun. Don't get sucked into buying the nicest camper you can afford, you still need money left over to travel and do fun things. A no slide just might be your perfect camper. 😁😁👍👍
Less junk less, junk to brake.
Josh: Thanks. YES! YES! YES! You’ve pegged five great no slide selections and three honorable mentions. Come 2025, when wife and I are old and feeble and can travel trailer no more, we might be looking to swap up to that Coachmen Pursuit 27XPS or maybe a Coachmen 27QB class C (if they ever go back into production) or even a Forester TS2381 on the Ford Transit chassis. Until then, we’ll just keep the tires on the Coachmen 204 RD rolling down the road for a few more years. Respectfully, W.S.
P.S. Don’t slides really belong on a kid’s playground and not in an RV? 😊😊😊😊😊😊
“Kid’s playground”
You know why I quit going down slides? Because they quit making them big enough
Uncle Josh, love all your videos - Big Fan! I like the Grand Design Imagine 21BHE (no slide) so much I bought one! Still love it….
I havent YET had the pleasure of reviewing that one. but I do hope to change that this coming season :)
Rockwood needs to make a Mini Lite with no slides!
They used to make several. They fell out of popularity interestingly..
Didn't know, thanks, put a bug in their ear to bring one back 🤞
I have yet to see a floor plan exactly like a Jayco 212qb. Love the extra sofa and having the dinette with the big windows out back. The no slide motor home you showed was almost the same except the sofa and dinette were at the front!
This one is darn close bit.ly/3fDda36 with the same basic furniture setup
i do prefer no slides in a way. it does depend though. i like the Class A the most. good vid
TY Justin :)
Intech has very nice no slide campers. A little bit on the expensive side but nice.
Yep yep. I just haven't really been able to see any of them quite yet (beyond one of those little boxdrops)
I gotta a 212qb it’s pretty awesome
Nice pick!!
thank you mr. schooley.
☺ He's such a cool guy and always brings really level-headed feedback to the conversation
thanks Josh
Any time!!
Hi Josh! I would love to see the Grey Wolf with the toy hauler you mentioned. Thanks!!
This one? m.th-cam.com/video/N6CwluNsI2g/w-d-xo.html
I would love to see a top 5 of destination trailers
Man.. there are so few brands even building destination models by comparison... Most builders also paused production of those the past two years but word is they'll be coming back for 2023's
Love my no slide Jayco 27N .
No Slide
No Nonsense
Love it! Great Top 5!
Not sure if you have had a chance to take a look at these other "No Slide" campers: Prowler 240RB (Great Kitchen for a no slide) or a Zinger 259FL (Unreal counter space & Unique front living room).
I tried for a YEAR to get my hands on one to record
It's literally THE OLDEST entry on my video hit list
Every bish's store I visit with one of those is ALWAYS sold out
How about a 2024 update on this “no slide couples camper” video? Add in north/south beds (or walk around beds), too!
Working on them now actually! I will have a collection of compilation looks like this
I wish Rockwood would make a no-slide mini-lite. Follow an airstream layout or like the In TechTerra -- opposing bathrooms (one toilet/one shower), rear bed and front dinette/lounge. It's that missing product -- not entry-level, stick/tin but the Rockwood quality and build.
They used to. One with bunks and one without. They phased out sadly
There aren’t many really good independent RV parts and repair facilities left but when you find one ask them this question. I’m very familiar with 3 in the southwest and here’s the question you ask, what part of an RV do you do the most repairs on? Slides, electric awnings with wind sensors and residential refrigerators. Other than structural items these are usually the most expensive repairs many of which happen even with careful maintenance.
Man that is seriously good advice
For Class A love the pursuit if I switch to drivable this one would be it
That one was such a fun find!
I don't want a slide either. This is an excellent video for me. I've been studying campers to buy one next spring.
Glad to provide!!
You're so silly & I love it. Side note: I also think a trash can should have a home.
@@JoshtheRVNerd so I went to my local RV dealer to look at a Salem Cruise lite. Ended up really liking a Zinger 219RB. I've never heard of one & can't find an honest to goodness review. I'd love for you to give me your honest opinion.
@@mymomsroadrage1281 zinger has gone thru a few phases. For a long while they were were ultra ULTRA low budget
I have only seen a few recently but they seem to have become really smart and solid. Not flashy, not loaded. But done well from what little I have seen
No love for the Cherokee Grey Wolf 20RDSE? Love that the rear part of it is totally customizeable, no water heater or baggage area back there, you can make it into anything you want.
My personal preference is for things like the split sofa/dinette like the jay flight 212qb but I could easily see someone preferring the grey wolf. It’s subjective for sure
Thanks 👍
My pleasure!
Thanks, you for the suggestions. Also I would like to see a list of the best 4 seasons trailer with or without slide, and thanks in advance.
Almost zero no-slide RVs are rated for cold camping. Northwood might be one of the new REALLY doing it
A few good cold-camp rated brands to consider might be Cougar, Eagle, Reflection.. but usually smaller RVs don't quite have the same bulky weather pkg as larger stuff
i think the zinger 259fl no slides i love it
I have wanted to get my hands on one to record since the day I first saw that floor plan. I can't believe it hasnt been copied by different builders. What i've seen of that layout looks amazing
Thanks you, Josh, I am/Uhm/wassss in between a Toy Hauler, OR Class Class C...I was pretty firm on these choices in 3 years I have been learning what would suit me best! I hadn't researched travel trailers, these are pretty nice, thanks for showing us what's out there, and...lol. Thanks for the confusion agghhhh, I guess my mind has opened to another option😂 I liked the video on the Embers so now I am watching all of your videos!
Well TY for joining Shelly! Drop me questions/comments here any time!
In honor of the the 22RR just missing the list, I would love to see your Top 5 “Ramper Campers”
First of all... i love that you watch regularly enough to use my silly phrasing
Secondly.. solid idea.
A few of my favorites are the 22RR
Video Here: bit.ly/3EFholK
and the Wildwood 190RT
Video here: bit.ly/3ybuiFA
I’m still going to get the Ember for us.
If you ever get to the Meridian store, you can probably put me and my baby in one.
Actually.. you're the first to know this. I'm scheduled to be visiting our Meridian HQ August 22-26
I should be around the dealership Monday, Maybe Early Tuesday, Maybe some Friday, but doing some meetings Wed/Thurs all day
@@JoshtheRVNerd: Ok, Josh. Hope to meet you then. Thanks.
Nice, but I'm looking for the full-time experience with a toyhauler for my full dresser bike!
Not sure what you’re seeking but this is my favorite to date m.th-cam.com/video/RF_e2KPPXmY/w-d-xo.html
If you were to do this list this year, I'd figure that new '24 Vibe 19RB would definitely make the list.
I have this list coming and I think that's my very first one
What about the Rockwood Geo pro 19fd? We love this no slide camper!
It’s a great one!
Hey Josh, great video. Could you "put your hands on" a 2023 264BHW. I just got mine from Mike at that very store in JC. Good man.
As soon as I can!
@@JoshtheRVNerd I know you will, just a technician spazzing out before it comes home.
great video once again and informative. Are you ever going to do any videos on the Outdoor RV trailers? I saw hat they are carried at one of the mid-west stores
As soon as I get a chance to actually get my hands on one it’s happening
Me And My Wife Are Geting The 2022 Forest River Cherokee Wolf Pup 16FQ That Will Work For Me And Her Oh The Dog To Thank's For The Help Josh.😉
Congratulations! I hope she treats you well :)
very nice list,,, nice to see a motorhome made its way into your list. just wondering does Bish's sell Airstreams? and lastly, do you see a "top 5 Motorhomes" in your future. Keep up the good work.
I don't think we currently have an airstream store. I only see a handful of them in our used lineup nationally right now
@ 10:19 there is a stat that Im not familiar with. Im not sure what a "Legnth" is but 27 of them seems like a lot. :)
If you gotta ask
You ain’t ready
8:12 HA! THERE'S that little cooker hooker connector protector I mentioned was missing on all the other rv's I've seen :) Who'da thunk, never seen one until I say I've never seen one, then "Whoomp! There it is..." :)
lol :)
Josh can you check out a Crossroads Zinger ZR259FL it looks fantastic as couples campers with no slides! Thank you!! Love your show, the hubby and get a kick out of watching you!
I have tried to find a copy of that to record for 8 months.. that’s probably the only reason it’s not on this list
I like them all!
:)
I'd like to see a list of at or under 20' campers reasonably priced for a solo full time. Looking into buying one next spring. I respect your opinion and want to know what choices are out there
It seems that class C motorhomes, truck campers and basic travel trailers are a lot of what there is if you want to choose between no slideouts or a slideout.
Some B/B+ stuff too
But mostly.. yeah. Trailers and C's
We love our no-slide InTech Terra. I'd love to see what you think of that one if you can find one to shoot a video in.
We have intech at a few stores but they're a builder that focuses on building right instead of building fast... so we're pretty much always sold out
Jayco recently copied intech pretty hard with their new Jay Feather volare. I'll be interested to see how people think of the two
but yeah -- i'll get some intech stuff when I can
@@JoshtheRVNerd We understand about InTech being slow. We waited months like everyone else for our Terra. We look forward to your review of one when you can. We LOVE your videos.
@@MaxBrandenberger ty max 😊
I would like to see additional videos just like this one. No slide 2 axle trailers.
no slide video. got it. i'll see what I can do
Josh, another great video. Do you have or can you make a top 5 RV,s for tall people, for people that’s 6’7” plus. Thank you.
I'm not sure you could even make a top 5 from that. This industry doesn't make taller stuff often. BUT... I have some ideas for you (oddly.. travel trailers are the best option for tall people)
1.) Eagle HT has 7ft ceilings
2.) Reflection has 7ft ceilings
3.) "Eagle"-proper has 7'3" Ceilings
4.) Destination Trailers (often called park models) usually have ceilings ranging from 8ft high to 8'6"
Beyond that.. I'm not really aware of much
I love no slide motorhome
That was such a surprising find!
Hey Josh what is your favorite Jayco RV? Besides the 264bh
Man... MAN.. that's tough. It depends a bit on the sort of category I'm seeking
Like for a big FW that 382FLRB north point is just beast mode
and I really like the new white hawk 24MRB (video and preview coming soon!)
I'd have to really think about this one
Josh i know your a big fan of ember im surprised the 170mrb wasn't on the list. Also Im a big fan of the geo pro 15tb a king bed in a trailer that size is amazing
Man it's so SO tough boiling things down like this. No matter what SOMETHING gets left off.
Sometimes I feel like I could make a top 20 and someone would say "yeah but you forgot THIS one" and ... they'd be right
I love you're videos. I have been watching a ton of them getting a feel for what all the different campers have to offer. I have two questions are there any other manufacturers that compare with the bunk load rating that jayco offers? 2nd are there any 5th wheels that work better then others with lifted trucks. Bunkhouse perferd
1st.. thank you so kindly for the nice words here today :)
To your questions:
*OTHER 600LB RATED BUNKS?* I actually think there are others but they likely under-rate their bunks. Jayco seems to be pretty exclusive in that regard
*FWs FOR LIFTED TRUCKS?* None I know of specifically. MFGs build for factory standard vehicles usually
Thanks for the reply i have one more question. Have you had any issues with the new Ford F-250 or F-350 tremors Being to tell for 5th wheels. My truck is about 1 inche teller then where they are.
@@BallisticMachinist so I am not directly involved enough with the hitching up of rvs anymore and don’t feel well qualified to assist here. I would actually call for a service person at an rv store to ask that one
@@JoshtheRVNerd ok cool thanks for your help I really appreciate it.
Josh, can you please do a good video of fifth wheel toy haulers without slides? I know of only a few, XLR Micro Boost 301LRLE, KZ Sportster 280TH, but I thought with your knowledge, you would know of some more. My wife and I have been shopping for a while, now, and we have come to the conclusion that an older couple with two motorcycles that hope to stay in some state parks and travel has very few options. We want zero slides and shorter length to fit in more places. Please help. Thanks!
Real talk here: They're so rare YOU know of more of them than I do myself. They're about as rare as hen's teeth anymore and I wish I could tell you why.
The only other thing I could think of you haven't listed here is something like a bit ATC fifth wheel
😄👍Good Stuff, Great Tips
TY!
Ooh or the Jayco
Suggestions for no slide, no dinette couples camper between 24 and 30 ft..please
No dinette in that size is rare with no slide
Maybe an ember Overland or weirdly… something like this m.th-cam.com/video/f-XhXSPDctg/w-d-xo.html
Hey Josh how about making a videos for couples with the slide on the driver's Only
Check my 30ft and less couples camping vids. Has a bunch of them
I would like to see some couples class c. Thanks
See here: th-cam.com/play/PLUT5NkY-l88w1Hs0eU0VuoHm48kk6AAn6.html
I have a handful listed and am trying to capture more
Yes, I will take one please. Oh, but my wife will not sign off on not having at least one slide. Of course, she wants a mid bunk/bonus room 5'th. wheel and I only have a 1/2 ton truck at the moment.
Which was your favorite?
@@JoshtheRVNerd That's a tough one, but I think the Jay Flight 212QB. Too bad the wife is a jazzy pants camper 🙂
@@randbrand1 #glampress😉
hey uncle josh, have you ever done a "best sounding rvs" video? Might be a silly idea but i realized i havent seen many reviews or overviews of RV stereo systems. just a thought...
I have not. It's not something I've ever really tested
Though the president of Bish's RV kept hooking up to various RVs with his phone and cranking music via bluetooth at the recent Jayco dealer display to see how they actually sound
The one that surprised us was how a common Jay Feather's outside speakers sounded better than a big Seismic's speakers lol
I like the chassis/bones of the Arctic Fox but I would want to rip everything out and design a different layout. You ever seen anything like that?
I’ve seen people DIY some stuff for sure but never on a brand new Arctic Fox
Thank you
I am so tired of slides
Wish companies would stop leaning on them so hard
Use to be a time where an RV was specified as "slide out", but now the opposite is true. The marketplace is inundated with slide outs that one has to specify they don't want one and their options are limited at best.
Also, why did Forest River do away with their remote? I use mine (2016 Salem 27RKSS) all of the time for slide, awning, stablizers and lights. Wish it included tounge jack.
I'm not sure. It's possible the supplier stopped offering it because I know they had them for a long time
A LOOOOT of brands are now adopting things like the LCI one control system you can operate remotely from your phone
Am liking the “no slide” rvs
Was wondering if you have done a Crossroads Zinger lite 259fl?
I’m really interested in this model
Was curious about what you thought of it
I am dying to get my hands on one of those! Everywhere I went this year we were sold out
How about no slide unit with private/walled bedroom and under 26ft
It's not impossible. I've not seen one like that.. but the idea is interesting
Awesome video. I have a 5th wheel and have always wondered why no slide 5th wheels aren't a thing. Any thoughts as to why? Thank you for all you do!
I feel confidently I have THE answer for you actually.. though It's kind of an ugly answer
MFGs build what sells. It's pretty much that simple. No-Slide fifth wheels or even stick and tin fifth wheels are something that proved less and less popular over the years
Kind of like how nearly no MFGs are currently building popups or hybrids. They're a dying breed I think
My wife and I would prefer no dinette and just a tray or removable table for theater reclining seats. No reason to have both for just a couple is there?
everyone's opinions seem to vary. Only a few years ago "no dinette means no sale" was a common saying.
Now... there's a LOT of people who say "why do they still put these space wasting dinettes in campers?"
But there's still a lot of folks who want/need dinettes for various reasons. I don't see them going away any time soon if ever
Also, is there any substantive difference between the Arctic Fox and Nash? Thank you.
yeah there’s some differences there. Nash tends to be a LITTLE more off-grid focused and basic inside while Arctic Fox is slightly more tuned to being a little more comfy on the inside.
The differences start boiling down in their features and amenities + layouts