How Far Will a 22 Kill? Part II
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- In this video, we take the "How Far" concept to extreme long range with the diminutive 22LR. We use the Vudoo Gun Works Three60 setup with an Element Nexus 5-20x50mm FFP optic and a TacomHQ Macro Charlie Tarac to get us out to 677 yards. Will the 22LR have enough energy to pass the "pine board test" at long range? Find out with us.
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RIP Barry. Thank you for all the entertainment and knowledge.
Who is barry ? pass a way rip.😔
@@davidtate166 Companion of the early Iraqveteran videos, the man with grey beard + hat. AFAIK he passed away from a heart attack during a nasty divorce.
Barry was a wealth of knowledge that these guys have continued on, R.I.P. Barry, keep up the good job guys, you know you make him smile still
Great video guys, good info 👌. I'm always interested in studying the ballistics and capabilities/ limitations of .22's. Especially since that's the only caliber rifle I own currently!
Rip Barry I didn't know him personally but I miss him on the show it was like listening to someone's grandpa with all the catchy old folks saying that make you scratch your head
"If ya get a hole in ya that you weren't born with, you're probably gonna die." - Barry
God rest Barry’s soul 😇😇😇
Damn, I miss that Man. Can’t imagine what he’d have to say about our 2021 FedGov.
Probably a good thing he's gone. He wouldn't have had anything to say about the 2021 Fedgov. He probably would have done something about it.
Rest in paradise Barry🙏
Leaking any fluids your not supposed to is never good
I see Barry, I upvote.
Even across the pond we feel the same! Appreciating Barry is a universal thing, I guess 👏🏾😎
Love Barry, but you should like every video. Even if you don't watch all the way because IV8888 is amazing.
I miss Barry.
Where was Barry?? Missed it n him
@@waiatm Check the first minute again 😎👌🏾
I think the old 400 yards video was already so impressive. It really sets awareness that you _actually always_ should check what's behind your target. And that. 22lr is not a toy.
ive never understood the thinking that .22 is not dangerous.... ive got a dialed in CZ457, me and my mates consistently hit a 1" target at 250 yards. an 8" at 500 is pretty regular..... .22 is no joke, and deadly quiet
A stand out comment from Barry on the lethality of the .22 I remember was something like, "Getting any hole you weren't born with is gonna give you a bad day".
Some holes are only made for good days though
22 bounces off of bones and tumbles after impact effectively causing massive changes of directions
People don't seem to understand that a round is still deadly much farther than it is accurate.
Box says 1.5 miles.
A round is only deadly if it hits someone and they die as a result.
@@tomkumagaimusic I'm sure it means that's how far it will travel, at that distance it wouldn't even penetrate skin.
@@OneSvT I would not like to be hit in the eye by a stray .22 round coming to earth no matter how many yards it had traveled.
@@tomkumagaimusic but this is only the "danger zone", so it is the distance the bullet will travel but i don't think it would kill anyone at 1,5 miles. It could maybe hurt you but not kill, but a hit in the eye would be bad even at that range i think.
Spirit of Barry is still strong! Now we need a Moss Pawn walkthrough
It's pretty awesome, I just went last week.
I'm legitimately surprised by the amount of energy that bullet still has at 600 yards. Thanks for running these tests 👍
I like that they used standard velocity ammo. I don't want to know if a supercharged ultra super rare .22 is lethal at 700, I want to know if just a normal .22 is.
Standard velocity is subsonic, thus does not destabilize when dropping below the sound barrier, which means it is more accurate at longer ranges.
But why would you wanna shoot a 22lr 700 yards. Or any round for that matter? No threat at that point besides it's not even meant for that distance
@@TheDkb427 there are more threats than ones to your person. threat to your livestock out in the foothills still counts too
@@TheDkb427 -- Knowing this will keep some moron with a .22 rifle from thinking he need not be concerned about cars on that road 500 yards beyond his target.
@@gregb6469 Exactly - I don't think the point of these tests is to determine effective range but rather to show that one needs a proper backstop even for .22LR if it may otherwise go beyond the end of your shooting range, even if that distance is more than 600 yards.
the .22 lr is one of the most under rated cartriges ever made. great vid!
.22 lr has been around since 1887 must be good for something, some ammo calibers have went by the wayside -1st USED in::: 5.56 = 1967, 223 = 1964, 45LC = 1873, 30-30 = 1895, just a few I use, and I use a hell of a lot of CHEAP 22lr's, also my Pistol 45apc = 1905, 9mm = 1901
@@jimmycole3765 I like the 76 caliber. Whatever happened to that?
The ply is worth more than the who,e shooting rig at the current prices!!
Ouch, first ammo prices, now plywood prices... Can't win.
That’s what I was about to see. Ply is insane right now
Single family zoning was eliminated under Obama and it's part of agenda 2030 to shrink the suburbs and move people in to the city centers, and/or increase apartment buildings in cities or suburbs to help rewrite the electoral map. Wood plys belong in single family homes.
I’m glad to see that wood prices are starting to drop. Plywood is a little different because storms and other factors drive the prices. But wood overall is dropping. It’s gonna take some time before we see prices drop in store though. They have to filter through the inventory they have bought at high prices first.
It cost me $106 to make an end table last August. I haven't bought any since. If you know anyone who has an old shed, chicken coop, etc that they don't want......go get it I've been cleaning up my neighborhood just for the wood.
Eric & Chad...Incredible video! Thank you guys so much for going to the trouble of setting this up for your viewers. You guys are great!!!
Love it that TH-cam actually showed this in my recommended
22 magnum would be interesting to see how far it would reach out. It's a nasty lil caliber.
It is actually less accurate. The round crosses transonic barrier pretty close up 200yards. Keeping it close to subsonic the 22lr is a better distance round.
In my experience, the 22 mag is much less accurate than other rimfires like the .17 HMR and the 22LR shooting standard velocity. Within it's accuracy envelope though, is very deadly! It is one of the most overlooked cartridges out there for defensive purposes. Forget about the pistols though, it is a rifle cartridge. Out of a short barrel you are better off using .22 LR.
@@Dav-S5658 Quite the contrary actually, 22lr out of a pistol is nothing compared to 22mag, which is surprisingly effective coming out of a short barrel.
Penetration is nearly three times better, potentially making 22wmr hollow points a viable self-defense cartridge, whereas a 22lr hollow point's penetration would be too pitiful to trust your life to.
@@nicholascapozzi1613 depends on the rate of twist and consistency of the ammunition (like with .22LR, most .22WMR rifles are twisted to just barely stabilize the bullets they'e shooting, and marginally stable projectiles have more issues with turbulence than properly stabilized ones do). There really aren't any commercially loaded .22WMR match-quality loads out there, since the cartridge was meant to be a hunting cartridge. Because it is transonic at a relatively short range (compared to most smokeless cf rifle cartridges), it has trouble competing with standard velocity .22LR at the normal distances .22LR competitions are held at. The added velocity does help overcome wind and atmospheric variations at longer range (500-1000 yards), however; and that is where .22WMR is better than a .22LR. The added velocity comes with it's drawbacks (even when talking about .22LR HV), you just have to decide if they're worth it to get the benefit of better trajectory and reduced wind drift, ect at the distances you're shooting (.22LR HV isn't really worth it, IMO, but it's what's commonly available). There are several vids out there of people hand loading .22WMR to shoot 1000 yards, and having good success with it.
Miss Barry
Ya'll do him proud.
I am glad you mentioned the importants of ballistics with airguns. I started off with airguns and when I moved to firearms I found myself knowing more about ballistics than fire many gun owners. They really dont have to worrry about ballistics unless its a far target or for some special ops mission.
Mmmmm nothin like being on the range during a southern summer. Drink water!!!
🇺🇸🗽💯ALSO....TALK TO US ABOUT WHAT THEY TEACH SOLDIERS ABOUT ENGAGING PAST 300 YARDS....DO THEY TEACH HOLD OVERS....Most of the footage from AFGHANISTAN Flip Flop gunners where lobbing in AK rounds from 500+yards away...how is a standard grunt supposed to engage with a red dot or even a ACOG...
Yeah looks hot, man!
@@patriotwarrior_556 calm down boi
@@patriotwarrior_556 Flip-Flops give +7 range stat, that's why no-one's been able to win in Afghan, I was wise and learned from them, I always wear flip flops too. I also heard the robes grant +5 mobility and have a smaller hit box.
Beat the heat drill seargant beat the heat. AHHHHH!!!!!
Hey IV. Please assemble your 'how far will a...' and the 'what do bullets do in real life' (going through drywall, etc.) vids into another playlist. I love this type of real-world examination of what projectiles do after they are fired.
Chad: hits target high center
Eric: bottom right
Me: 🤦🏽♂️
He can blame it on the heat. 😂
Who asked
I caught that
@@strv103b2. Your mom
For a non shooter (yet) I found this video to be plausible, informative and highly instructive. Thanks for taking the time and effort to educate me. I appreciate it.
That rifle is stunning beautiful... But that Plywood is $$$ and probably blew this video out of budget! Thank you for the financial sacrifice 😂. Great video Eric and Chad!
Only until Biden HARRIS are gone.
Price then will be back to normal.
The rifle, kestrel and the 250 MOA mirror along with all the other goodies involved is pushing $10,000, the rifle alone depending on the accessories is $5-7000 alone, a very expensive video setup.
@@dankmazzi2376 🤣 you really believe that?
Good one.
@@Westbird1 you wouldn’t believe me if I told you what mine cost and it’s not as accessorized as theirs is from the voodoo factory, so why don’t you go online and check out the prices of the voodoo rifles from the bare bones on up, then see if your laughing doesn’t turn into an open mouthed daaaammmnnnn! Do you have any idea how much that MOA devise costs, the kestrel was the cheapest and that model is in the hundreds, if you have an inkling of how much AR 500 is, than you must know that a sheet that big with those feet welded on would be quite expensive, and we still have accessories left to calculate, but trust me, when you check out the voodoo site and the price of their rifle comparably equipped to the Iraq veteran 8888 model, you’ll get it.
Keep in mind the sound of the impact travels around the same speed back to your ear
Good point. 1100fps is VERY roughly 300 m\s. So 2 seconds to the 600m target and 2 seconds back would match the rough 4 seconds they count
The old 22 boxes always said deadly to one mile!!
That was because a 22 fired into the air at an angle can travel that far and come down with lethal energy. You just can't shoot it that far accurately.
@5:40 "Fast hot jacketed ammo" "doesn't help barrel life" XD I'm dying!
I remember being 11 and watching how far will .22 kill part 1
Congrats
How long ago?
Same
thats awesome man.
Outstanding shooting!
Just amazing how far things have come in the way of long range. I will say having the right tools is an absolute must. Range finder for unmarked, not predetermined distance is of utmost importance. Wind is your most challenging. Wind at position across 600 to 1200 yards and at target differ at times. This coming from someone who shoots 308 at only 1050 yards regularly at present, (all the distance I can find in these hills, but usually every other day as long as I have components).
Hey guys! I'm a subscriber, but TH-cam hardly ever recommends me your videos. Now it did! World is a better place than yesterday!
.22's have always been fun. I have owned several rifles over the years and the first gun i have ever fires was a 22 .
I love this channel, the willingness to spend about 10 thousand to show us how far a 22 is lethal!
Yes, me too. Next video, please do a Marlin 60 with some Mini Mags and a $75 scope.
@@rob6850 YES, wanna see this stuff with just some basic stuff a po' boy like me can afford.
10/22 with a cheapo scope and regular Remington and Federal bulk ammo..
When I was a boy scout we were target shooting (up against a wooded ridge) and one of the leaders tried to shoot a skeet out of the air with a .22lr and missed. 20 minutes later a forest ranger came into camp with a smashed 22 bullet and informed us that it hit a forest fire watch helicopter on the landing pad. Almost 2 miles away. Bullet can go WAY farther than you might think. Luckily no one got hurt but it definitely left an impression on me.
I bet the plywood cost more than the 22 😂
I got several sheets of plywood that I be willing to trade for that rifle.
@@eddyflo2978 😂😂
For the setup! I'll go purchase a few sheet's right now!😂😂
I hope there is a part 3! 1000+ yards! AWESOME JOB GUYS!
I never thought I would need a degree in gunsmithing to understand a 22 rifle! Lots of cool stuff, keep up the good work!
One thing you mentioned at the end of this demo that I liked is seeing how lethal the 22 round was not only for defense..but for safety reasons as well. When we own 11 acres in north Texas, our barn has a small hole in the upper area of the outside wall where a round from the property behind us was shot and made its way all the way through their pasture, our woods and pasture and into the outer wall of our barn. The hole size in the barn was consistant to a 22 caliber.
Great video guys!
I remember years ago how the "How far will a 22 kill?" was one of the first IraqVeteran8888 videos I watched. As someone who's never even seen a firearm discharge IRL, it's been interesting to get an insight into someone else's lives where shooting guns is considered to be just a casual hobby.
Where are you from?
Dude where do you live?
Sweden (Europe). We have firearms here as well but it's definitively not as open or common as in the US.
@@fredrikbystrom7380 so what are the firearm laws like in Sweden? Are guns like ARs and AKs banned or legal? Not tryna be pushy but different countries gun laws interest me
Come out to America, you can shoot on my range till you cant load magazines from exhaustion
That was so much fun and so interesting. I am a UK shooter involved with young people who do a lot of competition Target stuff with some precision .22LR target rifles....but this rig is amazing!
And as they always say, "if the round can kill you, you are no less dead with a .177 airgun slug than a 50 Cal.....just enough dead". Never underestimate the potency of a .22LR round. Hunting with subsonic rounds shows the devastating potential. Great to see you pushing these little bullets out so far!
Je suis bien d'accord le 22 et une arme de guerre elle a sa place partout chasse survivalisme et loisirs
Fair bit of work has gone into this test, very impressive results too!
Well worth the wait!
glad to see you revisited this and i hope you get to do it again, but further! the old man is proud!
Now we're talking. Good stuff guys!!
Yes
Great video
Great stuff
Very interesting & informative session using my favorite caliber. In my heyday, I shot many woodchucks at up to 200 yds using my "Remington BDL Custom Deluxe" deer rifle in 7mm Rem. Mag., but many more at 100+ yds using my "Marlin 39 Century LTD" lever action carbine w/ octagon barrel. While both rifles were fun & satisfying to shoot, I always more impressed when I got hits using the lowly .22LR.
Nostalgia at its finest ! I still re-watch IV's old vids.
What a fine conversation.
Well done Boys.
Barry would be proud! if a 22 is lethal to 677yds+ imagine how far a .223 can go?
A mile...
40ft?
Max range is 3,600m
At least 7
Math makes that possible to figure out, there a lot of variables though.
From now on, every time I miss, it was "inconclusive".
I've become a 22LR addict. This is a fabulous video. I would never have guessed that this round would go that far, AND PENETRATE! Great video, and great shooting, Chad.
The most expensive part of this video is the plywood
I love your explanation about how super Sonic ammo has more resistance, it made me think of super cars: it takes an entire tank of fuel to move a Bugatti or similar car to Max speed, the air itself is saying “no you must slow down”. Or I can get 40mpg at 55mph, the drag coefficient is determining the energy expended. Very cool.
Barry is still right there with you guys for sure. Keep up the great work and never stop! I due believe this means a part III as well. See you all there! 🇺🇲👌👍
I would really love to see a "Best of Barry" playlist for the channel, would be a nice tribute.
The confidence of that “impact” was 20% lol
Narration of my pull out game.
@@Nick-fm9ux lol
That rifle is an incredible piece of engineering.
Excellent Stuff Guys! Important information that Your Sharing.And Nice Shooting Bro! 👌
Chad's a damn good shooter.
Again, I appreciate the information about the .22. Now, my 16.5 inch barrel on my AR-15-22 isn’t going to carry that far, but for its purpose and expected range, it will do the job. Very impressive shooting and presentation.
What I enjoy about this video is that the round is .22. it is one of my favorite rounds.
Sure do miss them old videos 😭
I'd love to see them do this with a 17 hmr/17wsm and a 22 mag
Just look at our .223 ELR rifles.
I love how the spotter has a red dot on top...
Nooooooo, now all the Fudds are gonna come back out about how its the deadliest round ever...........
bOuNcEs InSiDe
Always heard it was the caliber, thus including the .223.
just as many fudds say its an absolutely useless round too.
@@LUXINK
Oh really? Where you at?
@Ullr the snow God
Where can I find that statistic ?
Berry the gift that keeps on giving. Even after hes gone we're still learning from this dude and that is totally awesome ! We miss you buddy
Awesome, thanks for the tips… I am currently at two extremes shooting .338 LM at 3.2km and air rifles to 200m
My 22 shorts came with a warning of up to one mile range. The long rifle came with a 2 mile warning.
It's all great stuff. Kidding? I love this channel. Thing is: At what point will either one of you produce a .38 snub-nosed revolver and hit a pie-pan at 75 yards six times? Heck, I'll buy the cold soft drinks.
I remember watching Berry when i was a kid and didn't even speak english well yet.
Man... the time passes...
i'm new at 10-22 and love your channel, I appreciate your videos...thank you for your service by the way, My son served the Corps for three tours in Iraq. SemperFi
awesome video as always, great information and great entertainment. as an airgun shooter i love seeing this kind of thing, showing the safety side of things as well, most drastically underestimate small caliber cartridges!
Excellent job as far as your search for the answer! Well presented.
From past experience back in the late '70s early '80s most all my friends WOULDN'T DREAM of shooting at a deer even with a high-powered rifle & scope further than
100 -150 yards
That said I've taking deer out to a 1,000 yds more than once and GROUNDHOGS /COYOTES @ 7-800 yards
With multiple calibers and or rifles ranging from 243 up to 300 WINCHESTER SHORT MAG
All of that said and considering myself a VERY GOOD SHOT that 22 RIG is TREMENDOUS as for myself I've taken GROUNDHOGS /COYOTE at 250+ yds with my Ruger 10/22 with a straight 4-power scope and thought I'd done something thought wrong I guess love the video
PLA Sgt: "Sir, the enemy is 1000 meters away and they have .22lr rifles"
PLA Officer: "Raise the white flag."
PLA Sgt: "Sir, couldn't we just use 1" plywood armor?"
PLA Officer: "Have you seen the price of lumber lately?"
It's not taking 5 seconds to hit the metal
The speed of SOUND coming back nowhere near even approaches the SPEED OF THE BULLET
How far can I kill that damn squirrel pt.2 😆
Probably maxed out the old Lowe’s card with that plywood target.
So we're saying a .22 may be useful for the Zombie Apocalypse?
For distances you’d shoot in a city a suppressed .22 with a LPVO would be ideal along with a suppressed handgun and knife.
@@cdawson198600 ... luckily, I'm a country boy. I do have a Henry Model 01 .22 and just got the Big Boy 357/38 ...
22lr....a beaver farts in the next state over and you need to adjust for the “windage”.
Love the ballistic sciences, applies to all shooting, all calibers and cartridges. Thx.
The first one with Barry was the first IV8888 video I ever watched.
Thank you very much. Very informative and the gear discussion is very important. Also, great background on why to use slower projectiles
Much love to you guys. Appreciate everything you do
I just luv this sort of content from you Georgia boys.
Great collab with Ian, Eric. Great camera work Chad.
Awesome video. One thing you should consider is that modern day pine lumber is much less dense than it was in the past.
I have an old Winchester single shot .22 caliber bolt action rifle, with a 27" barrel. In my youth, I prided myself with the accuracy and the distance I could get with lead jacketed ammo. The best I managed was breaking a beer bottle at the town dump within two shots. I duplicated the distance a total of four times, (8 shots) ... a distance of 140 yards, with iron sights. That rifle has been legendary in that I once took it with me while a friend was hunting dove in season with a 410 shotgun. He laughed about me bringing my .22 while he was dove hunting. I lifted it, fired a shot into the air, in the direction of a dove flying across the sky .... and hit it, knocking it out of the air. It was stupid to be firing a .22 into the air ... but I wasn't too concerned as we were in the middle of the desert with the closest structure, probably 30 miles away.
Before I watched ur video, I guessed about a1/2 mile, so about 800 yards. The .22 is a very under rated caliber as it is brutal against soft targets! Squirrels raccoons possums stray dogs and cats birds snakes burglars.
You shoot stray dogs and cats?
@@donsalata7349 sometimes. If you live out in the country people dump their dogs all the time.
Back in the late 80s I had a subscription to guns and ammo magazine I can remember an article showing a guy hitting a target at 1 mile with a .22 caliber.
The lesson re: heavy bullets at modest velocity has been re-confirmed by generation after generation since rifles (even smoothbore muskets) were used in war. If you'd like a good PhD level education on the subject, the writings of Elmer Keith & John Linebaugh can't be beat. The short version "In external ballistics, velocity is a constantly diminishing variable. Caliber and bullet weight are constant." Once lead is up to velocity, it is HARD to slow down!!
What about trajectory, drift and impact area, Not constant either 🤷🏼♂️
@@bearkawiboy6246 its about if IT can kill. not if YOU can kill. your aim has no effect on the question being asked.
OMG the speaker phone setup. That's some Cajun Engineering FTW.
Absolute awesome video. I’d like to see what you could do with a Ruger precision bolt action rifle chambered in 22 LR or a Ruger 1022 that has been accurized.
Glad you finally got to do it.
I love this channel. But every time I see Chad with a wedding band on I am forever perplexed that he was able to swindle some poor lady into matrimony.
i would not have believed this, just being told of the bullets capability had I not seen it. Wonderful job guy's
Great video beating the myth that 22Lr is the same as a BB gun.
I particularly like this manner of testing. Having viewed several of your "Lethal Impact" videos I have a much better 'feel' for the usability of various cartridges. Thanks for your effort.
I wish I could have access to a range like that. Would really like to see how accurate I am at 400+ with my budget ar
Lets get on with it. Thank you..
I think Chad did a great job explaining what happened in this video. Environmental changes and such.
In Army Cadets here in Canada in the late 70s we shot .22 LR at targets out to 200 yards. We were told it was the standard to train for firing a .303 Brit out to 1200 yards. All iron sights or diopters btw. Good times.
I heard the bugs going and didn’t know wether it’s my bugs or yours. Considering we share a state it was the same thing with it without headphones
Very informative!
Removes some myths.
I liked
You guys and MAC have the best breakdowns.
It's crazy how such small changes at these ranges affect a .22 LR. A fairly standard shot for any larger center fire rifle. One of the reasons .22 LR is a fun round. Really can work on marksmanship with shorter ranges.