Gelli Plate Experiments with Denim (Lots of "OH NOOOO" moments) 😅🙈
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- Let's experiment with denim (jeans) on our Gelli plates.
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I'm betting the issue is more with the white chalk paint. Chalk Paint had a binder added to it . That's why it's used for so many furniture painting techniques. So I think it's binding with the coating on the paper. You didn't seem to have issues with reg acrylic paints. They have the plastic binders in them. I'm thinking that's why the gel medium also stuck. It's got a binding agent added.. it's gotta be reactive to that particular paper...
Great video no matter the OH NOOOOs
I remember that Brygida from @Kleeblattcreations said that Gelliplate printing is a Diva. And she has a lot of experience.
I have had this issue with copy paper too Barbara so I usually use sketching paper or something else like packaging paper, baking paper or even newsprint. Sometimes cheap paints don't have a lot of pigment them, like your first blue paint. Anyway the results are very good. Every gelli plate session I have has those, "oh nooo! ", moments too. Arohanui.❤❤❤
Oh that's useful to know. Got a plate for Christmas and haven't used it yet🙈
I think you're waiting too long on the second coat. Try pulling it off sooner. Especially with the chalk paint.❤
Chalk paint is bad, dries too much, and conditioning the plate is the best solution
Amazing idea dear 😍😍 I fixed this copy paper sticking problem by not waiting for long while rubbing the print, I can notice you rub a lot for longer time it makes the paper soaked a bit and stick so it’s easier to tear
I have found that cheap paints do not have enough pigment but, a lot of moisture, so the paper tends to stick to the plate. I also do not like chalk paint on it, that’s a bit like using gesso. I just love the prints that pulled the image, even a couple of tears don’t matter unless you want to use it whole. Good collage material! Aloe Vera won’t hurt your plate, I don’t think that is the issue. Always an adventure with a Gelli plate!😁💕🇨🇦
Turn the gelli plate and paper over. Pull the plate off of the paper. This is a way to avoid the paper tearing. It works.
Hallo Barbara ich denke das es nicht funktioniert, liegt an den Kalkfarben. Mir ist das letzten mit Kalkfarben auch passiert. Lg Edith
Some cheap paint has a lot less pigment & more filler than others & I suspect that light blue is actually a transparent paint. So when you use a more opaque colour to pull the print, the transparent paint just blends in. Worth doing a sample chart & figuring out which of your paints are transparent / semitransparent & opaque to be able to plan (I’m gradually doing that but I have a LOT of paint 🫣🤷♀️. It’s one reason I want to try gel printing with intaglio inks one day. That & you get gorgeous fine definition. She doesn’t use gel plates, but I absolutely adore the monoprint work of Rebecca Vincent. I’d love to adapt her techniques & some of her style to the Gelli plate. I have tried & had some success, but had battles with transparency.
Oh my!!! This like the rhyme ''There was a little girl, who had a little curl - right in the middle of her forrid. When she was good, she was very, very good - and when she was bad she was horrid'. Thank heavens the good results are amazing!! 🧡💚🤎
Meine bisherigen Erfahrungen mit Kopierpapier, hatten etwas mit der Stärke des Papiers zu tun. Wenn es "dünn" erscheint beim auflegen auf der GP, dann sollte man es zügig abnehmen...sonst bleibt es schnell auf der GP kleben. Manche Farben trocknen zu schnell...da hilft nur ganz schnelles Handeln. GLG Franziska
Liebste Barbara, das war jetzt wirklich ein echt spannendes Video für mich, weil ich mit Kopierpapier wirklich jedes Mal haargenau dIesselben Probleme habe. Das Kopierpapier bleibt auf der Platte kleben und mit den 1 Eurofarben klebt es noch heftiger. Dazu kommt tatsächlich dass die Farbe bzw. das Muster verschwindet. Ich nehme die Billigfarben jetzt nur noch zum Stofffärben, das mache ich auch manchmal mit der Gelplatte, denn mit einem dünnen Stoff klappt das meistens ganz gut. Dein Video bestätigt mir, dass die Kombi von Kopierpapier und Billigfarbe nicht funktioniert. Was denn nun die besten Papiersorten für die Gelplatte sind, habe ich auch noch nicht herausgefunden. Bis jetzt nehme ich meistens Butterbrotpapier oder Packpapier. Mich nervt das Geklebe vom Kopierpapier wahnsinnig, weil es so mühsam ist, die Platte wieder sauber zu bekommen. Sketchpapier werde ich auch ausprobieren, das scheint ja gute Ergebnisse zu liefern. Aber du hast ja trotzdem glücklicherweise ein paar tolle Ergebnisse erzielt. Chapeau😊. ❤
What I’m learning from PM Artists is that the opacity and transparency are also factors with getting the pull. They prefer using Hammermill 32# paper which I’ve gotten and like. They are also using carnival wet strength tissue paper which is amazing. Great show today. ❤
Oh yes, you are right, ive seen this also at PM. But Iam from Germany and its nit easy to get Hammermill😢
Hallo liebe Barbara, ich benutze für meine Gelli Immer Kopierpapier, man darf es nicht zu trocken abziehen. Der letze Anstrich muss etwas dicker sein sonst klebt das Papier an der Platte. Trotzdem so tolle Ergebnisse. LG und dickes Drückerle Dany.
I have found that cheaper paint (like the craft paint level) doesn't work as well on the gel plate, like there's extra liquid or some additive (not sure really) that just doesn't cooperate - which also might be why your copy paper is getting stuck, maybe it's soaking up the excess liquid???? I tend to use an average medium weight cardstock (65 lbs - sorry don't know the conversion to gsm) or sulphite paper that's a softer texture and really picks up well on your pulls (90 lbs). But I've never had the extreme sticking and tearing you had, so weird and super sucks! If you figure out why let us know!
I've had better luck with knit or fabric impressions when I have higher contrast colors (dark base and light pull color or opposite) to really see the details. When I've used colors too close in value I lose that texture. Yes - lots of experiments to figure out what worked with the different fabrics.
Thanks for sharing your experience ❤️
Oo knitted textures 🤔 great idea! I haven’t tried them … yet 😁 I wonder if my Mum would notice the jumper she made me has changed colour 🤭 🧶
Love the jeans prints. What a great idea.
Learning from the oh no moments is a good thing. Thank you so much for sharing. 💕
I love that you are showing us your fails, it helps us to understand where we may go wrong. Thanks
Really enjoyed seeing your experiments with the denim. I've used a lot of canvas in the past and now I want to use some denim that was given to me a while back. Those fails are learning opportunities. It happens. Most of the time it has to do with the amount of paint and the condition of your gel plate. Good that you showed adding the oil to the plate, I think a lot of us crafters forget that we have to take care of our tools so that they work! :) I liked that you scanned those prints. I've scanned prints and then altered the hue and got some really cool papers with the same pattern but in many different colorways. Thanks for sharing your play session with us. I know how long it takes to do these gel print sessions and know it can take all day. :) Keep creating. :)
I have watched some videos of PM Artists where Pam made layered gelli prints. She puts them aside with the paper on it and lets them dry completely before pulling off the paper. I was able to reproduce that. Maybe that helps…?
Apart from really feeling so sorry for your oh nos in this - great idea and fantastic results! 🫶🏻
Please try deli paper. It is fabulous and has.never torn for me. Plus it feels great and i love the sound when you crinkle it!
Kathleen from Little Rock
The next time it starts to rip, turn the gelli plate upside down and then peal the plate off of the paper. Rice paper also work well- strong. Juggles has the Sketch up paper. If you want to use copier paper, use a heavier paper.
Schöne Idee mit den Jeans. Ich lege immer ein schweres Buch auf das Papier und warte 5-10 min ab. Das funktioniert meistens. Allerdings habe ich mit zu dünnem Kopierpapier auch keine guten Erfahrungen. Ich benutze gern Reispapier, Bäckertüten, Seidenpapier.
Mit günstigen Farben habe ich auch keine guten Erfahrungen gemacht. Da ist zu viel Flüssigkeit und zu wenig Pigment drin, denke ich.
I've been collecting little girl jeans with fun pockets, distressed jeans, etc from the thrift store just for my gelli plate, I just haven't gotten around to it yet lol
Hallo Barbara, ist die Tube mit der blauen Farbe von Tedi? Diese Farben enthalten nur sehr wenig Pigmente. Deshalb ist diese Schicht zu durchscheinend und kann sich nicht vom Hintergrund absetzen. Du kannst das austesten indem du einfach eine Lage auf ein weißes Papier druckst. Ist der Druck viel heller als die Farbe in der Tube, dann enthält die Farbe sehr wenig Pigment.
Beim ersten Druck mit dem Matte Medium war das viel zu viel. Deswegen ist das Papier so durchgeweicht und eingerissen. Für eine A4 Gelli Plate reichen üblicherweise 5 bis 6 Tropfen aus. Ich hoffe meine Infos waren nützlich für Dich😊👋🎨
Vielen Dank für deine Tipps! ❤️
I almost cried when you did the black with the gel medium, that was such an awesome outcome. It looked like a photo from behind with the jean pocket and an arm
Printing your clothes with their folds, seams, buttons and all that is so much fun! Printing digital images of that and manipulating them a bit is fun as well. I enjoyed this video and learned from it, thanks so much. The clear mat medium on dry black print was super interesting to watch. ♥♥♥
If you're using the 20 lb/75 gsm, that is why it rips. I usually have to use at least 24lb/90gsm or higher.
Way to go on not giving up! I truly enjoyed watching you with your fails and success!❤❤❤ Thank you!
Echt super Druckergebnisse mit cooler Thematik. Ich benutze immer Babyöl von rossmann.....das lässt sich leicht dosieren und riecht auch lecker 😘
30 seconds in and I knew I was going to love this!! I tried gelli printing off and on for years, and while I made some cool patterns, I never really "got" it until I watched a video of Froyle's, and something she said or the way she said it, it finally clicked! I'm half way thru your vid now and have to go, so I'll watch the rest later. I've only ever used cheap copy paper, tho I did just get "wet tissue paper" from Amazon... Have you heard of that? The answer is probably in one of the videos you linked below. I'm proud of your tenacity, baby girl!! Hugs, MomK 🤗❤️🌵❤️🤗
Thank you MomK! ❤️ have not heard of wet tissue paper 🧐. Froyle is awesome.
Even with your struggles you were still able to get some really awesome prints. Very cool!
This was so awesome! I bought the prints and just printed them out - I absolutely LOVE them! Thanks very much for showing how you did it, fails and all 😂. I’m anxious to play around with my Gelli plates!!
Thanks so much! So happy you like them! You need to experiment with your Gelli plate, it’s fun! 😊❤️
Delighted to see you once again using Gelli printing for unique designs…Such a clever idea ..Old blue jeans..Now looking forward to seeing how you will use the prints..Awesome
Hi Barbara. Love these prints. I am very appreciative that you show us all of the process. I really want to try my gelli plate. Can you possibly do a video where you pick up images? Like magazine images. I want to try that so bad. Thanks for all you do. ❤😊
Thanks! I wish I could but that’s the one thing I can’t get to work 😔
This is cool, i can't wait to see what you make with these. I have never used a gelly plate, so I don't have any tips. Thank you for sharing, Barbara. 🙂❤️
You had me at "Lots of oh nooo moments". 🙂 (So sorry that happened!) I do love watching "mistakes" to show how human you are!
It's the paint. It has to have some type of glue medium in it. I've had this problem with inexpensive acrylics which have acrylic binders in them and cause the paper to stick to the surface of the plate. It is still a great idea! Great outcome with some paints.
Golden open paints work well.
Don't feel bad about a few fails, it happens to all of us. Great idea. Will be trying the jeans soon. TFS 😊
Absolutely amazing to use the denim. I admit I am one who has a gel plate and haven’t tried it. Love the digitals. Thank you for your video.❤
Your plate may need a good rubdown with mineral oil to recondition it.
Ich habe die gleiche schlechte Erfahrung mit Farben von Zimmermann und anderen 1 Euro Shops gemacht. Seit ich Amsterdam Acrylfarbe nehme, funktioniert es auch mit Kopierpapier. Wie lange lässt du das Papier trocknen, bevor du es abziehst? Versuche es mal mit 5 Minuten und einem Stapel Bücher obendrauf. Liebe Grüße aus Germany
Vielen Dank für den Tipp! ❤️
I love how you used the denim. It sure looked cool!! Even the fails had some interesting parts. Thanks for showing us!
😮 oh no 😮 sometimes seems to make you even more determined sweetie 😅😊 you are so right, never give up. These papers are so cool, and the results when you use them in a journal will probably be even cooler ❤
What a clever idea to use jeans! Your persistence is admirable and you got some gorgeous prints - well done:)
I think the white chalkpaint is the one that is no good.
They all turned out beautifully. Wow.
I think the blue was too close in tone to your top layer.
These are amazing. Can you get them scanned and put in your shop.? Xx
Thanks! They are! Link is under the video 😊
Don't use chalk paint to pull
I LOVE that you used jean pieces. What a great idea ❤
Oh my!!! This like the rhyme ''There was a little girl, who had a little curl - right in the middle of her forid. When she was good, she was very, very good - and when she was bad she was horrid'. Thank heavens the good results are amazing!! 🧡💚🤎
Hi Barbara I just got a new Jelly plate I have not used it yet. So your videos have really been helpful to me I'm so glad you said not to start upright I wonder would it be okay to store it in a box or a plastic bag perhaps what do you have to do to condition it for your very first use it was a treat to myself thank you I will try using the jeans it was awesome love you mwah mwah
As far as I know you don’t have to do anything to the plate before you start. Your plate should come with storage and general instructions.
Don’t store it on cardboard or paper. It needs to be a non-porous surface or it will leach out the oils from the gel plate & greatly add to sticking problems like Barbara has (although I think hers mainly came from using a heat gun on its first outing & trying to pull paper when it’s wet!). Plastic bags (the thick clear resealable kind) can work, but just be aware it will pick up the texture & takes quite a while to relax again (they’re fussy things, Gelli plates - do love their mineral (plain baby oil) oily massages & oil baths, as well as time to relax, but I suppose they do work hard since they’re such fun!) That’s why using the plastic sheets that comes with them is still best. If you lose one, they’re just acetate sheets. Tim Holtz also does a metal tin to store them, but it won’t fit the A4 - just a bit too short 😩 does apparently fit a few smaller ones. Oh & you don’t have to do anything before you start, just start rolling paint on! Be aware that it will repel the paint a bit at first, especially if it has a lot of fluid in it like cheaper more liquid paints. I actually think it creates cool effects though so I deliberately use some fluid paints on mine 😊 If you do though have paint beading, you shouldn’t have sticking problems to start with as the plate is pretty non-stick. But as time goes on & you use it more, you will start to get some sticking of certain types of paper. It’s because the paper gets damp & the fibres relax (also why it wrinkles). So if you start to get tearing, you either need to pull your prints really quickly, or leave it on until the paper is dry (& no longer cool to the touch). Don’t get in the habit of leaving paper to dry overnight often though, as that leaches oil into the paper (even if you can’t see it) & it will demand massages & baths more often! And just remember to never ever use glossy photo paper on it! You can use matte photo paper with caution, but glossy photo paper will definitely stick - way worse than poor Barbara’s “oh noooo” moments here 😳 Welcome to the addiction! It’s heaps of fun, but takes up a lot of space as it’s easy to just keep going & going & going lol. There are loads of Gelli plate artists out there. Froyle Art & Robyn McClendon are two of my favourites (although the chick in Froyles has a wild cackling laugh (most people find it infectious 🤷♀️) & Robyn talks… a lot! So you might need the FFWD button a lot!). Ceri Griffiths, Elizabeth St Hilaire, Yeates Makes are all amazing too! Especially Ceri & Yeates - they’re super creative in their designs. And Gerda Lipski is an absolute genius at printing! Anyway, enjoy! 😁🙃😜
@@allisonjames2923 thanks so much it was very informative and helpful 🙂
Absolutely amazing!
Och Barbara, wie ärgerlich, mit dem festgeklebten Papier. Ich habe die besten Ergebnisse mit Kalligraphiepapier gemacht, ist zwar dünn, klebt aber nicht so. Versuch mit Jeans Mal die Farbkombinationen dunkelblau-kupfer oder Gold, das sieht super aus. Liebe Grüße Antje
Vielen Dank für die Tipps! ❤️
Love it!! Will try it too soon😊
Much as your Oh nooo's make me feel better about my own fails, I did feel really bad for you because that was super frustrating for you! However, your "I'm not giving up!" was such a great reaction. Thanks, Barbara, for always being inspiring!
Loved this video!
Very interesting. Is your paint too old, too thick? Layer too thin? Too dry! Anyway, it’s an amazing technique. Maybe better than the ubiquitous tea-dyed paper. 💜💜💜
Gorgeous 🤩🤩🤩
Beautyfull 👍🧡
What cool prints, I can’t wait to see what you do with them! Thank you for sharing with us. Lots of learning in this video🤗❤️👍🏼🤩🤩🤩
Digitals would be great! Great job!!
They are linked under my video 😊
will u b putting the digis in ur shop?
They are there and the links are in the description box under the video 😊
I would have never thought about putting jeans on a gel plate. And I absolutely love it! They turned out fabulous. I had one go at a gel plate and did not have a good experience. But I’m going to try it again. Maybe I will try it with jeans this time! Thanks for the amazing inspiration! Hugs 🤗❤️👖
What a great idea, and perfect timing as I’m putting together items to make a jean denim journal. 👏👏. I’ve not had a problem with using copy paper, and mine is not high quality. I kept thinking it was the white chalk paint? I love watching your videos because you show us everything! This is a great idea, thx Barbara
Another great video. I think you have a combination of issues. Paper weight, paint not having the right compounds and even possibly cleaning the jelly plate with a wet wipe. I'm so sorry you have been sick just got over it myself. Wishes for a full recovery soon. I love the funny oh no's.
Love them!! Never give up, a great mantra
Barbara, I don’t have a jelly plate but love watching you create different papers. Those jeans turned out so cool! TFS!❤
Love this! Some great ideas❤
Never thought of cleaning with olive oil.
And I love using the denim!
I have also had trouble with tearing with copy paper
These were absolutely gorgeous! I know that they didn’t all work out but in the end you had a nice stack of beautiful papers. I will be purchasing a gelli plate. I just can’t wait to get started. You have once again greatly inspired me. Thank you, Barbara.
Never give up is my take away from this video!! The gloves came off!😅 I will never own a gelli plate but you go girl, I loved everything about this video. You better use those tags inside those jeans, as well! ❤
I was going to say add baby oil to clean the plate. Then after you let your jean print dry,, and added your pick up paint and put your paper down go pick it up. Do not over press your paper ingo the gelli plate. Rub it quickly and semi lightly. Ie just go over it one or two times. The oil you used caused the print not go come up. You just have to find that fine line of picking it up. I think we have all had paper sticks.
Oh Barbara! I was really feeling your frustration!! You poor dear!!! Thank you for sharing your video!
12:58 this is exactly why my gelli plate is at the bottom of a drawer, collecting dust, because I have barely gotten any good results… and then I had no idea how to use the resulting prints because it was all a bit drab… I have not yet finished the video but I already feel the same annoyance and frustrations from when I was experimenting with it 😡🤣 I have no patience for this medium anymore LOL but I am always fascinated watching others.
Very cool prints! I wouldn’t have thought of using jeans to print but love the way they printed. I usually clean my plate with hand sanitizer when it gets grungy. I usually leave bits that didn’t pull because I love seeing them come up on the next print. I have a jeans pocket that I think I’m gonna go play with.
Hi Barbara, I always love to watch you create and work. I use recycled copy paper from the blue box in the office all the time on my Gelli plate and acrylic paints and never have an issue.
Maybe the wrong side of the copy paper? Or paint was too dry? Maybe the paint was old?
Brilliant idea to use the jeans! Great results. Could you hear me yelling at you though? It seemed very obvious that the copy paper was the issue as it only worked once, when it had paint on it. Rice paper is highly recommended by some people but when I tried it, mine tore everytime but my friend who had a different brand, had great results.
I am a novice gel printer so I’m sorry I can’t offer any solutions to your issues. I think those prints can still be used and looked at as happy accidents, adding a bit of ink and making them grungier than anticipated. I realize they’re not what you had in mind, but I think they’re fabulous, nonetheless.
So inspiring 😍 and nerve racking 👀 thank you for sharing 🙏🥰 lots of love from arctic Norway 👏😍🥰🥳
LOL! So many "Oh, noooo" moments but you learn for us so I appreciate it! The tear is fine because it's all about ripped jeans these days! 😂
It was fun watching YOU do the geli messes! Lol! Fascinating. TFS🤗
Love the concept! Thanks for including your mistakes!! 😅❤
Hey Barbara hope you’re doing well, this is great, I have emailed you with a few questions hope to hear from you soon xx❤
Barbara, you are amazing. You never give up. The finish... successful 👍
I have the feeling that the white color is the reason.
Anyway, the jeans texture turned out amazing 👏🏻 🤩
For those of us who love your "oh nooooooes" that was the perfect video. And what is it about jeans that fit everywhere and every time? Very cool images Barbara.
Very interesting! What a wonderful idea! Thanks for sharing. 🇨🇦
Kool idea Using jeans so Kool 💖
Great watching the experimentation! Wonderful results!
I am still right at the beginning and already saying oh no! The banana paper!!! Oh i hope it ends up looking cool and gets used some how😂
So very creative! Love your results! I think you need to let it set a little longer before pulling the print, especially when using copy paper.
I love your oh no moments!!!!!!! All if this is amazing and i am thankful you showed us all of this ❤
The ‘tear’ marks look good too!
The small ‘tear’ marks
I hope your prints will reach your shop anytime, cause I will definitiv NOT try this, I have a gelli plate, but I HATE it😅!!! !!! I loved looking your tutorial.....
I didn't get any good resultats ever.....I would buy yours, Barbara!
Greetings 🙋♀️
Thanks! The links for the digital are in the description box 😊
Wow...I love these!🤩 I would have never thought to use jeans...ever.💗 I have a pack of three, 3" gelli plates, a square, a triangle & a circle. Also a 5x7, I think...& an 8x1-ish?? Not exactly sure, 'cuz I've never used them, nor any...not even once.👀
I had no clue about conditioning with olive/baby oil, either. Nor not to store them in the original packaging...Why not?? How DO you store them then?? Thx, Barbara. They're super cool!💗💖💗
p.s. I happen to really like the dark ones.🖤💛🖤 Oh...& I've been practicing my "Oh, Noooo!!..."s. I think it makes all mishaps much easier to handle.😉 Much love💗 xoxo
Hehe you are so cute. My Gelli plate instructions say to store it flat with the acetate but without the outer plastic packaging. No idea why 🤷♀️
How odd my gelu plate is a couple of years old. I use water wipes to clean it, never had copy paper stick. I use copy paper, rice papers, newsprint, deli paper and all sorts never had paper tear.
You have a very pampered geli plate! 😄
Lots of cool prints. 😊
Was your blue plate transparent or partially transparent? That could be why you don’t see the pattern.
I love when you experiment! The results here are incredible. I need to get a gelli plate. ❤