PCB Laserprinter Version 2
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ก.พ. 2014
- Verbesserte Version meines PCB Laser printer. Jetzt mit 2 Laserdioden.
Deutliche Steigerung der Geschwindigkeit....
aber noch nicht zu 100% fertig.....
ups... ein Fehler im Video, der "DAC LT1446" ist natürlich ein LTC 1446 !!! - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
Und selbst nach 5 Jahren findet man auf der kommerziellen Ebene nichts vergleichbares. Eine wundervolle Arbeit!
That is amazing! Good job! You are very hardworking.
For those whos wondering... to get that extreme accuracy, it's not just the laser that does the printing, the heavy base is almost 1.5 inches thick, there's a reason why this talented person use's such base, the heavy base provides more accuracy for the laser while it moves, same goes for the heavy beams and columns. This is no way an easy task of your typical "DIY" laser PCB engraver a lot of legitimate mechanical engineering has been gone through to make such machine same goes for making the laser and electronic hardware. Jeez... this level of fine detail and accuracy is straight up porn, gives me an instant boner.
Super! Ich bin sehr beeindruckt!
My conclusions:
Two lasers to be able to create two lines (double speed)
Laser GH04P21A2G (405nm 100mW)
Only information visual of the design (no information for open development)
The best design I've ever seen ...
What are the specifications of these two laser diodes and also why did you choose to upgrade to 2 instead of the 1 you had before? In addition; isn't there a possibility that the beam can have time to reflect off of the copper sublayer before the resist film has time to expose and turn opaque? My concern is that having something like this in an unenclosed area could, over time, possibly damage the eyes. Right?
Great work!, What cleareance and min width had you achieved?
And here i am not even able to find a cheap good quality blue laser, i so much envy you.
Hi !
This is excellent.
Why is PCB look white after exposure ? Is photoresist layer vaporized or what?
parabéns pela melhora! porque, a primeira versão era muito lenta! essa continua, mas, é visível a melhora de desempenho!
Do you have your build documented anywhere? Looks like a nice machine
ich würds kaufen....wenn es nicht all zu teuer währ aber ne frage: wenn es fertig ist machst du ein video tutorial wie man sowas baut
Super gemacht :D
Will mir auch son teil bauen D:
Hi! It's a really nicely done machine!! the resolution is impressive!.
I'm curious why two lasers? to increase the total power? or to compensate for the laser diode's beam divergence?
Second laser is for speed ( 2 laser = 2 lines written same time )
Hi what is the plate in the video? the one with white image after exposed under UV laser, thanks!
I have a question what laser do you use it?, how any watss have your laser?
Is this laser a normal "chinese" laser ? I mean how can you make the dot so small ? Also how do you turn on - off the laser ? are you usung a transistor and a microcontroller ? Your work is amazing !!! (I also asked the same question in your previous version video :) looking forward for your answer !
hii i am also stuck here but i am unable to find a cheap solution
wonderful machines!
can you tell me the cost of returns such a beauty?
I admit to drooling at this beautiful glowing eyes;) that project able to take life with a machine such as this.
Have you planned a marketing?
Hi like the setup, any possible to share how you did it please
schematic which laser you used etc
I don't understand German but it seems you are doubling up on laser power by integrating 2 lasers ? Could you have mounted the lasers in a triangular shape merging into a common spot without using a prism reflector or was the reflector used to calibrate ??
So the white colour is the UV converting chemically after exposure to UV laser ?
Kannst Du genauere Angaben über die verwendeten Laserdioden sowie den Preisumfang des Projektes machen?
Awesome stuff.
This is used for a software?
1:15 - What is that dark mesh foam? Is it used some form of cushioning?
Hola esta impresora esta a la venta cual es el costo soy de Lima Peru y la placa tiene algun tratamiento antes de su quemado con el laser, porque parece que ya no necesita ir con los acidos, en el anterior video si se uso los acidos gracias por la atencion prestada y estare a la espera de la respuesta y nuevamente gracias
Voll Genial, Das will ich mir auch bauen, habe aber mit Microcontroller und Programmieren noch keine Erfahrung und mit Schrittmotoren etc. Da bräuchte ich unterstützung... Wie hast Du das Teil gebaut. Gibt es da eine Bauanleitung und welche Software nimmst Du da ???
Which software are you using ????..........
What technique are you using? Pre-sensitized board? If so, positive or negative?
yes pre sensitized and the image looks positive to me
Hi! I really like your project. Could you publish the microcontroller code and the general schemmatic of the machine please? Thanks
Great stuff very impressed. Is it possible you could share the test PCB image?
What's the model of your stepper motors?
Welche photosensitive Material benutzen Sie? Ich benutze Positiv 20, aber der färbt sich nicht wenn ich mit Laser beleuchte. Nur nach die Entwicklung kann ich die Ergebniss sehen.
Janos Hajdu Unten habe ich gelesen dass vorgefertigte Platine von Bungard benutzt wurde. Ich habe eben ausprobiert, scheint aber ähnlich als wie beim Positiv 20. Also nur nach der Entwicklung konnte ich das Ergebnis sehen, keine weiße Spuren.
what if you use rotating mirror (may be from laser printer as a source, may be to use entire printer with your laser)? can it become even faster (though it is very fast already)
Un trabajo soberbio!, lastima que no se quiera compartir el proyecto y convertirlo en open source.
would pls share info regarding the mechanical parts motors,grids ....etc
including their suppliers ?
Oi, como a configuração, é possível compartilhar como você fez isso, por favor,
esquemático, qual laser você usou, etc.
danke 😊
@+Hobby Elektronik Hallo, wie die Einrichtung, jede mögliche zu teilen, wie du es getan hast bitte
schematische, welche Laser Sie verwendet etc bitte
Sind das Fotobeschichtung positiv Platinen?
Any documentation please
Dear friend how do you get such a tiny laser spot
what software should i use for pcb bmp image to gcode ?
Great Work!
Im now planning to convert my 3d printer to a PCB laser printer!
Does anyone know how to export bitmap from Circuit Studio?
Any documentations, schematics, guidelines, website ???
Hi, is there anything you can publish about the software you use and the firmware for your controller?
I'm setting op a rig but without software it is not working well...LOL
I requested this a couple of time but up until now no answer. I hope you find the time now.
camillus
Sie haben dieses Projekt mit einem PCB-Laser abgeschlossen?
Why are you using two laser diodes?
Congratulations on the project. Really an exceptional job. What programs you are using, especially that it translates the drawing to instructions for cnc, where it appears the board design on the computer screen with a marking where the laser already passed?
You could post to us or page where you describe this project.
Thank you and once again congratulations for the work and of course for their dedication!
HI!!! Thanks for showing how can I get your test PCB layout? thank you very much
Good evening. Is possible to have more information about your project? PCB, schematics, software info... Thank you!
Sehr gut Arbeit!!!! Würde mich wie viele über eine genauere beschreibung freuen. Abo ist raus!
Would like build plans for this
Anyone knows what software Hobby Elektronik is using?
+Camillus Blockx Judging from the quality of all his home-made equipment and the German language I would say it's all self-made!
+helmut666kohl Yes I had that impression too, but I'm still hoping he releases the code, then we can experiment a bit with this also.
A little more informations about software please ! you say nothing about this.
Home made? sources available?
Thanks
Very, very good project. Where I can buy this project?. What is in contact with you? I am waiting for your contact. Wher I can see more information for this project. Thanks
Блок фокусировки на голове не лучше ли для точности, износостойкости разместить а лазеры с их массой стационарно.
You got any details :0?
How watt is laser?
Is it burn the copper directly?
Hi, the laser diodes has 405nm at 60-100mW.
No, the laser illuminates only the photoresist.
Hobby Elektronik So the lase is only 100mW ? Can you explain the PCB board preparation ? Was there a special resist .. I notice it turned white after exposure so I assume this is the area that is etched ?
+graham kaveman the same idea i still don't understand :(
+Hobby Elektronik А что вы применяете в качестве фоторезиста ?
It's copper clad board that's pre-coated with UV photoresist (you can buy it this way fairly cheaply) then a UV laser that doesn't need to be very powerful and then you can develop them the normal way with acid.
Hi There Hobby Electronic,
Amazing project! Looking to do something similar myself, as I am a student and constantly designing and re-designing boards for my projects at university. Any chance you can share the schematics for the print head and the firmware for it? If you wish this to be kept private then please feel free to email it to me via my google account. It would be most appreciated and I can send money if you are not sharing it, but selling as a product instead. Thanks again for sharing your amazing work!
I like this ! Looks like your lasers wipe the top layer! What diodes do you use in v.2 ? Is the lens still "Aixiz" ? What photofilm was on the board ? I have worked with positive-20.
I think to build similar machine, so i started research for parts and found at ebay.com, ebay.co.uk many cheap laser dot modules,lens that look like yours, uv laser diodes. But I'm affraid that I can't tell apart the laser diodes and the sellers may cheat with the specs, diode models. My idea to distinguish the LD type is by close inspection & comparisson of A/V graphic with the characteristics, given by the producer.
Datasheets of Nichia are avail. online.
The diodes and the mirror are from XBOX laserunit with the "Aixiz" lens.( I find this on web: PHR803t similar or Sharp GH04P21A2GE !? datasheet is available ). The Boards are original Bungard, Positive 20 I have not tried yet.
I ask about lens, because on laserpointerforums.com and ebay, they market new, different 405-G-2 Glass Lens (for ridiculous price), which they claim deliver 30% more power than the standard Aixiz glass lens.
But my concern is about the spot diameter. Btw, on ebay there are chinese lens which look pretty mych like the 'aixiz' ones.
How many watt of laser
He combined 2 lasers onto a single spot. So if 0.6W single mode lasers from BDR209, then - 1.2W total.
Please, can share full project files.
kannst du mir das programm und der arduino code zukommen lassen
The 2 videos look awesome! Can you share your software/tool chain?
1. You only expose the UV film on the copper when I understand?
2. Can you try with Positiv 20, to see the effect, please?
3. What is function of 2 laser diodes? Why 2.
Hello,
1. Yes, only the UV resist is exposed.
2. why not, can I try it....
3. Each diode is exposed a line = two lines in one step = halved time
Hobby Elektronik
How can I contact you in order to buy some components and to get software info, please?
Hi,i have a co2 laser,that laser is ok for make a pcb ??
My laser are a 60W co2 glass tube and 15W synrad solid state co2,first is a standard machine(home made) and synrad have a cambridge galvo head
Hello, this I can not say anything.
I expose the boards only.
Well possible can be removed directly with 60W copper? but copper vapor is very toxic !?. LPKF build such machines.
(PCB Laser Structuring)
Hobby Elektronik Hi,very thanks for your answere...
today i make a test,but im think if the Co2 lasers not work with metal material,is a caracteristics of waveleight,you use a blu/violet color and im think is near 405/415 nm ...
after this video,your board are finisch(without hole) or are neessary acid for remove the copper if you have work with laser ??
hi,how many w is your laser ??
ljmrbubi hi, the laser diodes has 405nm at 60-100mW.
The laser illuminates only the photoresist.
***** the CO2 laser cannot expose the resist as it is sensitive UV light only, a CO2 laser emits IR at around 10900nm. If you have made it work I guess it is because you have burned away the resist, not exposed it. I would think the resolution would be far less than what can be obtained with the 405nm laser too.
hi document code link or pcb links.
How can I contact you in order to buy some components and to get software info? I write you personal message, see it please.
Hobby Electronics, just let know to the peoples if you are going to share the project... if not, than better every one would know about and will not ask for details...
Ok, three points.
I need plans. PLANS DAMNIT!
Double buffer the windows with the image as it updates the drawn part (or only invalidate the area you're redrawing). flickering screens drive me mad!
It needs to go *PING* when it's done.
four points.
PLANS!
Fantastische maschine. Schlecht video.
Hi! Can you give us plans to replicate your machine please? :)
Hi Hobby Elektronik,
I noticed that many, me included request for the software ( firmware ) you are using, but I do not see you answering this aspect. Do you want to make your software public, or are you offer a payed version? I have he parts and a modified jet printer that is just waiting for the first try...LOL But without software it would do not much.
Aber congratuliert mit ihnen project, doch ich bitte sie, auch ihren datei frei zo geben. Vielen dank habben sie jetzt. ( shuldigung vor fheler, LOL )
C.Blockx camillus dot b dot 58 at gmail dot com
Why are you showing this on youtube and not wïlling to share information? It seems like you want to keep it for yourself... it would be generous to help your hobby colleagues. Anyway, it is nicely done but i dont like showing off on youtube and hardly answering any questions,But if you like it that way.....
This video is really misguiding. It seems, that he is lasering off the copper but this is no where near possible (I know from expierience) with those laser diodes. even if you drive them with 1A. Because of that, this can only be an exposure unit.
Sehr gut.