Correction: The non-50S battery type is GB, not 50E. Fortunately, however, much of the data is still accurate since 50GB battery cells are inferior to 50S cells. Update from Myewheel: They will also be selling the 50S version. They said that batch 1 will have 50GB cells, so they are going to skip batch 1 and only use batch 2 50S cells, even though the price is going up on the 50S version. Update from AlienRides: they will also be selling the 50S version of the Adventure, but just not at launch. - Likely batch 2 onwards. They also plan to sell the v14 at at a lower price. Nothing like friendly competition! Buy it here: Alien Rides - tinyurl.com/44xefpxp eWheels - www.ewheels.com/?affiliates=730 Myewheel - www.Myewheel.com - discount code: WHEELGOODTIME
Completely agree with what you said, the 50S cell upgrade is huge! Just a matter of time until all wheels use this cell, the discharge capability just makes too much sense for EUCs!
Very good video! According to the information we had from InMotion. The first batch ( November ) will be with 50GB battery cells and only after that they will switch to 50S and the price of the wheel will increase. So we at MyEWheel will skip batch 1 and go directly for Batch 2.
Well this might be a game changer. As of right now I'm seriously looking at the Patton, but I might start paying more attention to the V14. I still want to see the V14 in action before I make a final decision.
the price will definitely drop after a few months so that is when i might buy it, also because hopefully all the problems of early batches will be fixed
That 10 amp constant discharge graph just sold me on the 50s. You would have to pull 5300 watts through the 134v 4p battery setup continuously to equate the same amperage per cell.
You’re keeping the companies feet to the fire! The results have lead to the best PEVS an enthusiasts can ask for. The Adventure will be the best EUC ever, which will spur mass adoption of all EUCS. Are there any talks of unlocking the speed, and seat availability ? Thanks
Jason at eWheels (again, the hero of the story) has been pushing for them to increase the top speed limit from 70 km/h to 80 km/h. He feels that the V14 still has plenty of safety room overhead, and I agree with him - especially with the 50S batteries now. As far as seat availability, I don't know. Based on IM's history, they likely will be selling it as an add-on for $50-90ish USD after release. That's not based on insider info, just a guess.
My V11 went kaput after a tire change at 5 months, the app said bad motor but we checked the motor and it was fine, inmotion said buy a 300 circuit board and see if that fixes it. No way in motion, im gonna sell it for parts, bought a vet patton instead
Engineering specs and "Real World" results are almost invariably different. I'd like to see an actual Adventure V14 reviewed rather than hearing manufacturers specs. I hope they're as advertised !
I'd love to get your latest opinion on the V14. I just put down the $500 for a batch 2 version from ewheels, though I keep wavering on whether to stick with it or grab an Extreme or Patton. I saw you on Johnny Go Vroom riding around on his v14 while you had him demo your Extreme with the Grizzla setup. How do feel about the V14 at this point? Would you recommend the extreme over the V14 or do they both have their place? My use case will be primarily a trail cruiser, hoping to do mild jumps/drop-offs, lots of hills climbs, and also want it to handle quite well on road. Range isn't a huge deal for me, so I think either would do fine for my use case in that regard. A comfortable and nimble ride would be high on my list as well. Thanks again for all of the great videos!
Honestly I'd go with the Patton or Extreme instead. I don't have any skin in this game as far as biases are concerned since I will be selling my Extreme in order to help pay for my Lynx on the way. I fell in love with the patton and fell further in love with the extreme. They are just so so good. The Patton is more refined, but the suspension doesn't have as much trouble as the extreme, so personally I think that the extreme is the best choice for trails. The pattern is good for trails and also very good for the street. I felt that the v14 had a frustratingly stiff suspension that was not comfortable to ride on trails, but it also had a fairly low center of gravity so that was nice. If I had to choose between the three, I would be hard-pressed between the extreme and the patton but personally would not choose the v14. YMMV, of course 😊
@WheelGoodTime Huge help! I kept coming back to the new shiny V14 with the awesome looking stats, but I really don't want the suspension to be a miss for me. I'm tempted by the Lynx as well, but man that's one hefty price tag, ha!
@@tlgrimmy Inmotion does show in the V14 promo video that the spring is user-swappable with a common 200mm design so that should fix that issue. They showed a bunch of options on amazon.
TLDW Summary Introduction: InMotion has significantly increased the value of the V14 Adventure. 0:00 It's set to be the first certified safe electric unicycle. 0:05 50e Battery Configuration: The InMotion V14 Adventure was initially announced to have a 4P battery configuration with 50e battery cells. 0:11 Highlight: The V14 Adventure will now be sold with 50s batteries, which are capable of 25 amps per cell of continuous current. This is 2.5 times greater than the 50e batteries. 0:43 If you buy the V14 from eWheels, you'll get the safest electric unicycle with better performance and less battery voltage sag. 0:72 Waterproofing Concerns: There were doubts about the V14's waterproofing claims. 1:00 InMotion followed the IEC 60529 certification processes for waterproofing. 1:48 They tested the wheel in two different ways, including complete immersion in water. 1:86 Safety Certifications: eWheels is looking into getting the V14 UL 2849 certified, a comprehensive safety certification. 2:39 This certification process is costly and requires multiple pre-production samples. 3:13 Pricing and Battery Longevity: The early bird price for the V14 Adventure is $3,300. 3:31 There are concerns about the 50s battery capacity reducing after a certain number of charges. However, the batteries are expected to last a long time. 3:73 Conclusion: The video took a long time to plan, film, and edit. The viewers are encouraged to like and subscribe. 4:30
One more question) Do you think it makes sense to change my default v14 tire by the one which has the S version? I guess it should give more control in street riding/speed/turns etc. Or it is not significant?
I have heard good things about both, but the general consensus is that the 50S version tire is a bit better. I personally would just use the original tire until the tread wore down and then get the 50S version's tire, but that's just me. 🙂
Yes I was mistaken about the 50e's. GBs still have much lower discharge capability which was the impetus for the shift to 50S. While the 50e part is inaccurate, it's still fairly accurate aside from that.
Of course! Reach out to your local dealer and ask if they'll special order you 50S packs directly from IM. If they won't do it, I believe Next Gen Mobility will do that for you. 🙂 The battery packs are the only part needed to swap out. No additional parts necessary.
50s sounds good. Other batteries just cutoff with no reason... Maybe they are ready for swappable batteries due to lower charge cycles? I can pay for batteries if it means not eating pavement at 50mph...
And to answer your question, the 40T has no advantages over the 50S, other than price. The 40T offers faster discharge rate capability, but it seems manufacturers are satisfied enough with the 25A discharge capability on the 50S.
Thank you for the video! Did I miss it or did you say what company is auditing the certificate? Have been in a few ISO certificate ramp-ups. We do it ourselves, but the audit and confirmation of the certificate must be done by 3rd party.
I don't know anything about who is auditing it - but if you send an email to sales@eWheels.com, they can provide more details. Alternatively, if you reach out to InMotion via email, they might be able to give you more information. Honestly though, you'll get more honest and forthcoming details, and faster, from eWheels. 😊
You're 100% correct, my mistake. BG batteries, however, are still very similar to 50E's, to the info is still largely valid with that exception. I pinned a comment making that correction as well.
Oh so I just got some updated information, we will eventually have the 50S versions, but at launch only ewheels will. Good move there. We should be able to sell it at a lower price though!
In theory they do, yes. But if you see later in the video, there's some data that IM posted that shows how you'd only get that few charge cycles if you are constantly running at an ultra-high discharge rate. If you ride like a normal person (or even if you're a hard rider) then it'll keep its capacity for far longer than the "on paper" stats.
It's really annoying to have to choose between high-capacity versus high discharge cells with shorter life and capacity. I wish manufacturers would go back to using the 18650 so we can get more parallel groups and not have to worry about overstressing the batteries. I think the 50s batteries are going to get much shorter lifespan because literally no one is going to be riding at at 40 amps or less discharge with a wheel like this. I guess I am neglecting voltage in the equation of battery longevity I guess we'll see. And if the wheel is as good as it's made out to be i want to keep it for a while and not have to resell it at 50% percent loss especially if I'm paying nearly $4k for it.
If they did that, ultimately they would be robbing Peter to pay Paul. If they increased the amount of cells in parallel, then it would be reducing the amount of cells in series. In order to effectively do that without decreasing the system's voltage or battery capacity, they'd have to add more battery cells in parallel, which would increase system weight. Ultimately we are limited by the amount of cells is capable of carrying within a confined space
… or, just buy 4 extra battery packs and put all 8 in parallel. Just need some longer bolts and pedal extensions and you’re good to go farther than the Master Pro. 😮
Looks like inmotion is leading the safety innovation again. This is what i dont get, why does an EUC have to be waterproof? Submersible. Survive a 4inch deep puddle and heavy rain and im good.
It's still capped at 43mph, made of a lot of plastic (not that durable) and has less suspension travel..I still prefer my extreme. I imagine wheels with 50s batteries will lose a lot more money when trying to sell used compared to those with 50e as they have fewer charge cycles left
There's nothing wrong with plastic. There are a zillion kinds of plastic blends. Some crack when you look at it, some are very strong. Like the plastic from expensive powertools. Inmotion is not known to make their wheels with crappy plastic. And they sell the parts so if it does break you can replace it. plastic keeps the weight down. I love my light S18 I am more worried about the brittle aluminium that comes with these wheels. Pedals can sheer off while riding.
@@Stan-kj8fq I think begode are just as innovative.. wider 3" rims, smart bms, better durability, have always lead the field in terms of performance etc.. 'safety' isn't ignored by begode either..50s batteries coming to extreme and all begode wheels, many more mosfets in latest gen motherboards.. people who cutout on begode wheels refuse to take responsibility for turning off all the safety warnings like tilt back or setting the pwm too high etc.. cutouts are almost always rider error and the more powerful the wheel (begode wheels in general) the greater the headroom before cutting out/ over torquing which is the safest you can get.. most other brand wheels with less power will cutout/ over torque way sooner which means they are less safe imho or like inmotion cap the speed too much which is a deal breaker for me
@@bobdebouwer7835 no plastic will be better than the all cnc metal design of the extreme which is inherently the most durable material you can use.. plastic will crack or shatter more easily
50S ① Capacity ≥ 2,940mAh @ after 250cycles(60% of the standard capacity) - Charge : 6A, 4.20V, CCCV 100mA cut-off - Discharge: 25A , 2.5V cut-off .... The 50S is not a good battery for a wheel. Citation for the 600 charge cycles as that info isn't listed anywhere I've seen, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Cycle life refers to how many complete charges and discharges a rechargeable battery can undergo before it will no longer hold a charge. So that is 250 complete charges and discharges. The concern is that it drops so fast over time, way faster than other li-ion batteries. So 80% will hit pretty quickly, over the course of a season for some riders.
It's only 250 cycles when its discharged at 25A PER parallel and charged at 6A, which both is wayyyy over the actual amount anyone is actually going to use. So it'll be even more than 600 cycles based on real world conditions where it'll be charged at around 2.5A per parallel, and around
Molicels are good, but there are political tensions with Taiwan where molicels are made, making molicels not an option for new EUCs. ☹️ later in the video I addressed the concerns about 50S life cycle - it's actually not so bad at all! 😊
@@porkchopspapi5757 You are short-sighted. If the like of ebike like Sur ron and Talaria could do it, so could EUC manufactors. Paying minimum wages are not going to increase to 60-80% as you imagine. The whole point of doing it in house in the West is to keep the cost low. Even if EUC manufacturers need to eat initial costs of molicel packs would still justified as it would be billion-dollar business. They need to focus on fixing all the shortcomings of EUC as fast as possible for mass adoption/before it got banned everywhere.
Except for reviewers and too exited customers, no one want the first batch on any EUC brand too many problems in the past with ALL of them i prefer to pay more and get the third batch instead.
I hear you. Leaperkim and Begode send free replacement parts to 1st batch buyers after making fixes so at least there's that. IM and Kingsong haven't done that 😰
Meh, MOLICEL/NPE INR-21700-P42A "45A" 4200MAH priced at 4.89 per cell. Samsung 50S "25A" can't even hold a candle to Molicel's 45A. The industry 10A batteries are partly why we see many faceplants on a self balancing wheels, which lifeline is about sustaining high power. To put in perspective, the best of ebike like Sur ron and Talaria's 3rd party battery are all Molicel !!! Unless we get those 5 EUC manufactors or just inmotion to secured Molicel from Taiwan, we have not solved the battery/high power part of the problem.
Correction: The non-50S battery type is GB, not 50E. Fortunately, however, much of the data is still accurate since 50GB battery cells are inferior to 50S cells.
Update from Myewheel: They will also be selling the 50S version. They said that batch 1 will have 50GB cells, so they are going to skip batch 1 and only use batch 2 50S cells, even though the price is going up on the 50S version.
Update from AlienRides: they will also be selling the 50S version of the Adventure, but just not at launch. - Likely batch 2 onwards. They also plan to sell the v14 at at a lower price. Nothing like friendly competition! Buy it here:
Alien Rides - tinyurl.com/44xefpxp
eWheels - www.ewheels.com/?affiliates=730
Myewheel - www.Myewheel.com - discount code: WHEELGOODTIME
Aloenrides has my money once second batch gets in. Wonder when that will be?
Got mine on the way right now! MONDAY WOOT WOOT
Completely agree with what you said, the 50S cell upgrade is huge! Just a matter of time until all wheels use this cell, the discharge capability just makes too much sense for EUCs!
Let me know if alien rides will have the 50s cell upgrades. I love the commander pro I got. I really want a lighter stunt wheel tho🤙
Let me know also
Very good video! According to the information we had from InMotion. The first batch ( November ) will be with 50GB battery cells and only after that they will switch to 50S and the price of the wheel will increase. So we at MyEWheel will skip batch 1 and go directly for Batch 2.
Thanks for the info! I will add that info that you passed along to the pinned comment.
Good stuff, if Jason pulls it off he will get my future business.
Cheers
Awesome explanation of the 50s. Great info.. Thank You Jason / support Ewheels.! Always moving in a positive direction..
1:23: I really need and prioritize safety because my wheel almost killed me and killed my cats, destroyed my appartement...give me safety
Well this might be a game changer. As of right now I'm seriously looking at the Patton, but I might start paying more attention to the V14. I still want to see the V14 in action before I make a final decision.
This is spinning up to be the best wheel of all time. Thanks for the video.
Great job e-wheels!
Great video man keep up the great content and congrats on 1K subs!
the price will definitely drop after a few months so that is when i might buy it, also because hopefully all the problems of early batches will be fixed
Actually it might go up by about $700
That 10 amp constant discharge graph just sold me on the 50s. You would have to pull 5300 watts through the 134v 4p battery setup continuously to equate the same amperage per cell.
50S is the future! I hope all EUCs have this level of current discharge capability (or higher) in the future - for the sake of safety if nothing else.
You’re keeping the companies feet to the fire! The results have lead to the best PEVS an enthusiasts can ask for.
The Adventure will be the best EUC ever, which will spur mass adoption of all EUCS.
Are there any talks of unlocking the speed, and seat availability ?
Thanks
Jason at eWheels (again, the hero of the story) has been pushing for them to increase the top speed limit from 70 km/h to 80 km/h. He feels that the V14 still has plenty of safety room overhead, and I agree with him - especially with the 50S batteries now. As far as seat availability, I don't know. Based on IM's history, they likely will be selling it as an add-on for $50-90ish USD after release. That's not based on insider info, just a guess.
My V11 went kaput after a tire change at 5 months, the app said bad motor but we checked the motor and it was fine, inmotion said buy a 300 circuit board and see if that fixes it. No way in motion, im gonna sell it for parts, bought a vet patton instead
Engineering specs and "Real World" results are almost invariably different. I'd like to see an actual Adventure V14 reviewed rather than hearing manufacturers specs.
I hope they're as advertised !
I want these cells in my Airwheel X3
I'll give you this one.
I'd love to get your latest opinion on the V14. I just put down the $500 for a batch 2 version from ewheels, though I keep wavering on whether to stick with it or grab an Extreme or Patton. I saw you on Johnny Go Vroom riding around on his v14 while you had him demo your Extreme with the Grizzla setup. How do feel about the V14 at this point? Would you recommend the extreme over the V14 or do they both have their place? My use case will be primarily a trail cruiser, hoping to do mild jumps/drop-offs, lots of hills climbs, and also want it to handle quite well on road. Range isn't a huge deal for me, so I think either would do fine for my use case in that regard. A comfortable and nimble ride would be high on my list as well. Thanks again for all of the great videos!
Honestly I'd go with the Patton or Extreme instead. I don't have any skin in this game as far as biases are concerned since I will be selling my Extreme in order to help pay for my Lynx on the way. I fell in love with the patton and fell further in love with the extreme. They are just so so good. The Patton is more refined, but the suspension doesn't have as much trouble as the extreme, so personally I think that the extreme is the best choice for trails. The pattern is good for trails and also very good for the street. I felt that the v14 had a frustratingly stiff suspension that was not comfortable to ride on trails, but it also had a fairly low center of gravity so that was nice. If I had to choose between the three, I would be hard-pressed between the extreme and the patton but personally would not choose the v14. YMMV, of course 😊
@WheelGoodTime Huge help! I kept coming back to the new shiny V14 with the awesome looking stats, but I really don't want the suspension to be a miss for me. I'm tempted by the Lynx as well, but man that's one hefty price tag, ha!
@@tlgrimmy Inmotion does show in the V14 promo video that the spring is user-swappable with a common 200mm design so that should fix that issue. They showed a bunch of options on amazon.
Dual hall sensors was big safety marketing on the V13. Does this continue for the V14?
They haven't indicated either way. I'm guessing it's a no.
TLDW Summary
Introduction:
InMotion has significantly increased the value of the V14 Adventure. 0:00
It's set to be the first certified safe electric unicycle. 0:05
50e Battery Configuration:
The InMotion V14 Adventure was initially announced to have a 4P battery configuration with 50e battery cells. 0:11
Highlight: The V14 Adventure will now be sold with 50s batteries, which are capable of 25 amps per cell of continuous current. This is 2.5 times greater than the 50e batteries. 0:43
If you buy the V14 from eWheels, you'll get the safest electric unicycle with better performance and less battery voltage sag. 0:72
Waterproofing Concerns:
There were doubts about the V14's waterproofing claims. 1:00
InMotion followed the IEC 60529 certification processes for waterproofing. 1:48
They tested the wheel in two different ways, including complete immersion in water. 1:86
Safety Certifications:
eWheels is looking into getting the V14 UL 2849 certified, a comprehensive safety certification. 2:39
This certification process is costly and requires multiple pre-production samples. 3:13
Pricing and Battery Longevity:
The early bird price for the V14 Adventure is $3,300. 3:31
There are concerns about the 50s battery capacity reducing after a certain number of charges. However, the batteries are expected to last a long time. 3:73
Conclusion:
The video took a long time to plan, film, and edit. The viewers are encouraged to like and subscribe. 4:30
One more question) Do you think it makes sense to change my default v14 tire by the one which has the S version? I guess it should give more control in street riding/speed/turns etc. Or it is not significant?
I have heard good things about both, but the general consensus is that the 50S version tire is a bit better. I personally would just use the original tire until the tread wore down and then get the 50S version's tire, but that's just me. 🙂
@@WheelGoodTime thank you!
This is the first time im hearing about 50e on v14. Thier specsheet was mentioning 50gb cells originally.
Yes I was mistaken about the 50e's. GBs still have much lower discharge capability which was the impetus for the shift to 50S. While the 50e part is inaccurate, it's still fairly accurate aside from that.
Good vid
Is it possible just to buy 50s battery packs in future and swap it in my v14 that has 50gb now or need to change some other parts for that too?
Of course! Reach out to your local dealer and ask if they'll special order you 50S packs directly from IM. If they won't do it, I believe Next Gen Mobility will do that for you. 🙂 The battery packs are the only part needed to swap out. No additional parts necessary.
@@WheelGoodTime thanks!
My order is in ..lol
I'd totally buy the V14 if top speed was 50mph+
I don't think you'd want to be hitting 50 mph too often with a wheel diameter of that size 🤣 real sketchy
50s sounds good. Other batteries just cutoff with no reason... Maybe they are ready for swappable batteries due to lower charge cycles? I can pay for batteries if it means not eating pavement at 50mph...
What about 40T cells? Why isn't the Adventure using the 40T cells like the Extreme does?
Rumor has it that the 40T Extreme is already discontinued before it was produced en masse, and they will offer the option of a 50S or 50E version.
And to answer your question, the 40T has no advantages over the 50S, other than price. The 40T offers faster discharge rate capability, but it seems manufacturers are satisfied enough with the 25A discharge capability on the 50S.
Thank you for the quick response!@@WheelGoodTime
Thank you for the video! Did I miss it or did you say what company is auditing the certificate? Have been in a few ISO certificate ramp-ups. We do it ourselves, but the audit and confirmation of the certificate must be done by 3rd party.
I don't know anything about who is auditing it - but if you send an email to sales@eWheels.com, they can provide more details. Alternatively, if you reach out to InMotion via email, they might be able to give you more information. Honestly though, you'll get more honest and forthcoming details, and faster, from eWheels. 😊
@@WheelGoodTime I don't care that much, just wonder :)
Would buy it anyway.
Isn't the original battery 50GB? Why did you say 50E in the video?
You're 100% correct, my mistake. BG batteries, however, are still very similar to 50E's, to the info is still largely valid with that exception. I pinned a comment making that correction as well.
What about alienride ..r they doing the same
I don't know if AlienRides is offering the 50S version - you'll have to reach out to them and ask. 😊
Oh so I just got some updated information, we will eventually have the 50S versions, but at launch only ewheels will. Good move there. We should be able to sell it at a lower price though!
@@AlienRides thanks for the update. I'll copy and paste what you said and pin that comment for visibility. 😊
@@AlienRides You'll be selling the 50E at a lower price, or you mean for all batches with eucdeals?
@@critzlez8593 the 50e versions will be cheaper! We’ll try to update pricing this week.
Don't the "S" batteries have a shorter overall lifespan? Less charge cycles?
In theory they do, yes. But if you see later in the video, there's some data that IM posted that shows how you'd only get that few charge cycles if you are constantly running at an ultra-high discharge rate. If you ride like a normal person (or even if you're a hard rider) then it'll keep its capacity for far longer than the "on paper" stats.
Is there a way for me to get that done opgrade in the eu
Absolutely! Check the pinned comment for info on that from myewheel 😊
Info I got from them was they were using BG batteries not Samsung E's. ewheels is doing 50s.
You're 100% correct - my mistake. The BG batteries are essentially the same, specs wise though, to the 50E's.
6:33 you can be very very shocked my friend.... You haven't seen some riders possibilities
Sweeet !!
It's really annoying to have to choose between high-capacity versus high discharge cells with shorter life and capacity. I wish manufacturers would go back to using the 18650 so we can get more parallel groups and not have to worry about overstressing the batteries. I think the 50s batteries are going to get much shorter lifespan because literally no one is going to be riding at at 40 amps or less discharge with a wheel like this. I guess I am neglecting voltage in the equation of battery longevity I guess we'll see. And if the wheel is as good as it's made out to be i want to keep it for a while and not have to resell it at 50% percent loss especially if I'm paying nearly $4k for it.
4k? Aren’t the batteries quick release?
You're way off track there bro
why not just change to an 8P config and keep the 50E batteries? Best of both worlds..
If they did that, ultimately they would be robbing Peter to pay Paul. If they increased the amount of cells in parallel, then it would be reducing the amount of cells in series. In order to effectively do that without decreasing the system's voltage or battery capacity, they'd have to add more battery cells in parallel, which would increase system weight. Ultimately we are limited by the amount of cells is capable of carrying within a confined space
… or, just buy 4 extra battery packs and put all 8 in parallel. Just need some longer bolts and pedal extensions and you’re good to go farther than the Master Pro. 😮
Looks like inmotion is leading the safety innovation again. This is what i dont get, why does an EUC have to be waterproof? Submersible.
Survive a 4inch deep puddle and heavy rain and im good.
It's still capped at 43mph, made of a lot of plastic (not that durable) and has less suspension travel..I still prefer my extreme. I imagine wheels with 50s batteries will lose a lot more money when trying to sell used compared to those with 50e as they have fewer charge cycles left
There's nothing wrong with plastic. There are a zillion kinds of plastic blends. Some crack when you look at it, some are very strong. Like the plastic from expensive powertools.
Inmotion is not known to make their wheels with crappy plastic. And they sell the parts so if it does break you can replace it.
plastic keeps the weight down. I love my light S18
I am more worried about the brittle aluminium that comes with these wheels. Pedals can sheer off while riding.
Begode has amazing wheels, but you can’t deny Inmotion’s innovation. IMO, Inmotion and Leaperkim will push EUCS mainstream, because safety rules.
@@Stan-kj8fq I think begode are just as innovative.. wider 3" rims, smart bms, better durability, have always lead the field in terms of performance etc.. 'safety' isn't ignored by begode either..50s batteries coming to extreme and all begode wheels, many more mosfets in latest gen motherboards.. people who cutout on begode wheels refuse to take responsibility for turning off all the safety warnings like tilt back or setting the pwm too high etc.. cutouts are almost always rider error and the more powerful the wheel (begode wheels in general) the greater the headroom before cutting out/ over torquing which is the safest you can get.. most other brand wheels with less power will cutout/ over torque way sooner which means they are less safe imho or like inmotion cap the speed too much which is a deal breaker for me
@@bobdebouwer7835 no plastic will be better than the all cnc metal design of the extreme which is inherently the most durable material you can use.. plastic will crack or shatter more easily
Lame opinions...
50S ① Capacity ≥ 2,940mAh @ after 250cycles(60% of the standard capacity) - Charge : 6A, 4.20V, CCCV 100mA cut-off - Discharge: 25A , 2.5V cut-off .... The 50S is not a good battery for a wheel. Citation for the 600 charge cycles as that info isn't listed anywhere I've seen, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Cycle life refers to how many complete charges and discharges a rechargeable battery can undergo before it will no longer hold a charge. So that is 250 complete charges and discharges. The concern is that it drops so fast over time, way faster than other li-ion batteries. So 80% will hit pretty quickly, over the course of a season for some riders.
The citation is from Jason @ eWheels, and he received that graph from InMotion directly.
It's only 250 cycles when its discharged at 25A PER parallel and charged at 6A, which both is wayyyy over the actual amount anyone is actually going to use. So it'll be even more than 600 cycles based on real world conditions where it'll be charged at around 2.5A per parallel, and around
50s life cycle - 250 cycles, 50e - 500 cycles
That's a common misconception. Check out this video where I clear that up: th-cam.com/video/WnSDX9cNs8I/w-d-xo.html
50s has realy poor lifecycle
Was planning to put these in my S18.
Better to use the Molicel P45B in all future wheels
Molicels are good, but there are political tensions with Taiwan where molicels are made, making molicels not an option for new EUCs. ☹️ later in the video I addressed the concerns about 50S life cycle - it's actually not so bad at all! 😊
I ride my wheels hard haha, also good is the 40T@@WheelGoodTime
@@WheelGoodTime All they have to do is have a battery company/business in the West that secured bulk Molicels and assemble it in West.
@@Hunter_Heart that's all? How many are willing to pay 60 to 80% more?
@@porkchopspapi5757 You are short-sighted. If the like of ebike like Sur ron and Talaria could do it, so could EUC manufactors. Paying minimum wages are not going to increase to 60-80% as you imagine. The whole point of doing it in house in the West is to keep the cost low. Even if EUC manufacturers need to eat initial costs of molicel packs would still justified as it would be billion-dollar business. They need to focus on fixing all the shortcomings of EUC as fast as possible for mass adoption/before it got banned everywhere.
Never Buy the First batch.
Except for reviewers and too exited customers, no one want the first batch on any EUC brand too many problems in the past with ALL of them i prefer to pay more and get the third batch instead.
I hear you. Leaperkim and Begode send free replacement parts to 1st batch buyers after making fixes so at least there's that. IM and Kingsong haven't done that 😰
Meh, MOLICEL/NPE INR-21700-P42A "45A" 4200MAH priced at 4.89 per cell. Samsung 50S "25A" can't even hold a candle to Molicel's 45A. The industry 10A batteries are partly why we see many faceplants on a self balancing wheels, which lifeline is about sustaining high power. To put in perspective, the best of ebike like Sur ron and Talaria's 3rd party battery are all Molicel !!! Unless we get those 5 EUC manufactors or just inmotion to secured Molicel from Taiwan, we have not solved the battery/high power part of the problem.
Hopefully they get the political tensions resolved with Taiwan soon so we can get those delicious molicels again 🙌
First there 8)