I remember old cartoons where a knight in one would talk, or more often mock, at someone and the helmet would open and close like that was a mouth. As I kid a always thought it was so dumb it was hilarious. XD
I love how it almost looks futuristic and minimalistic in design, like if I just saw the helmet for the first time not knowing anything about history I'd think it was for some modern scifi robot movie
I kinda' like the design of the frogmouth helmet. I think the fact that it hides all of the facial features gives it a more intimidating look. It's definitely cool on an aesthetic level in my personal opinion. Awesome video, Metatron! I can really tell how much work you put into them.
@Matrix Reloaded I'd think about taking some English classes before you act like a smartass. Even then everybody knows the Frogmouth helmet was for jousting exclusively.
I'd say its well worth remembering that no armor is 100% effective, so even if this gives 'em a (much) better chance very likely reducing the instant severity of any injury it may just change how you die. Especially pre-antibiotics and advanced medical facilities.
@@foldionepapyrus3441 I totally agree with you, even if the helmet survives a heavy hit, the head inside still shakes around violently wich could cause brain damage or even death in unlucky cases.
Yeah probably, in a jousting tournament though I would be more so worried about any internal injuries you can’t fix. Not so much broken bones they could probably fix those to an extent. Especially for the time period. Although I doubt the king is getting in heavy amounts of jousting tournaments. He is probably training to some extent but he’s definitely not getting the crap beat out of him on a normal basis.
I recently went to a medieval village here in Denmark and tried a great helm for jousting (but not a frog mouth). I was surprised by that visibility (much better than I expected and the model I tried allowed some vertical FoW as well) but what I didn't expect was the noise: I could hear myself breathing so loudly and every external noise was amplified inside the helm. I think that would've distracred me more than anything else while jousting.
@@m0-m0597 With that weight I doubt it. To test the visibility me and some guys from my HEMA club tried to swing around at reduced speed with some short swords that were available for use in the same spot and though again visibility didn't bother us too much (or as much as we thought) at that speed, it hindered our agility a lot.
@@davidvalderrey9385 I would assume so but then breathing would be pretty miserable while wearing that for more than a few minutes at a time. I'd like to try it though
It’s amazing how trying out something in real life gives you unique insights into what you would have otherwise never grasped! Thanks for this. I’m very surprised about the field of vision. Those medieval smiths knew what they were doing. One thing I noticed as you did some close ups on the lip is that the sharp (relatively) edges of the frogmouth opening would have easily bit into and grasped any wooden shaft entering into to, so that specific design was likely very purposeful. Even if a lance or spear somehow made it into the gap, the shape would have stopped it before it went too far-hopefully before it reached your face!
The frogmouth helmet looks awesome. Imagine a warrior wearing this charging at full tilt with their lance pointed straight at you! Though it really seems too impractical to use outside of jousting
I love how the helmet looks. It's a shame that it's limited to just jousting, rather than battles and duels. I'd love to see more of the frogmouth helmet.
In an rpg setting I think you could justify frogmouths being used for fighting large monsters and whatnot. Easy to see big monsters even with the limited vision and your normal helmet won't stop your neck from breaking if something like a giant smacked you in it. Also, if you had gladiator type fights in a medieval setting you could easily make classes/characters like the Romans did and have one that wears a frogmouth.
The Frogmouth helmet was designed for Jousting. It's basically a Jousting helmet. On the Battlefield this type of helmet would impair your field of view but for jousting is perfect.
The Frogmouth looks as if it acted as a forerunner to the HANS device (a device used in motorsports to reduce whiplash in vehicle impacts) as the FM helmet straps to the armor. The perfect helmet concept for jousting.
My thoughts exactly. I used to race and as soon as i saw the inside of that helmet and how it was tied to the chest plate it instantly reminded of the HANS i used to own.
I've studied absolutely insane armor made for jousting. Just last week, I recognized examples in a museum, looked like normal armor except the arm, the breastplate and even the helmet were all one piece.
I would wager that knights competing in jousts in heavy rain would have wished they had the option of getting weather forecasts. Or at least forecasts that didn't depend on which way a flock of birds flew or how the entrails of a goat looked. The upside is if you actually found yourself competing one without a lance nearby, a piping hot cup of McDonald's coffee down the visor would work.
People tended to look up at the sky more than on pagan prophetic traditions for semi-reliable forecasts, they also relied on the season, such as expecting way less rain during summer, more during other times of the year, and made educated guesses based on those. Weren’t entrails a roman thing? Probably not more than a day or two at most of forecast though depending on the region and culture
@@xariasfury5782 most places had a yearly farmers almanac. Wet winter dry summer or late spring and Indian summers for example. You can use trees or flowers to predict the weather. Flowers drying means no rain now or in the bear future.
@@Apathetic_Corndog The first topic of this video is visibility inside the helment. The visibility isn't demonstrated, which is a missed opportunity as it's easy to show.
Oh man, I fuckin' love the OG Knight chest plate/shield, and how they remove it before thrusting with their spear. Not to mention the chain that draws their spear back into their hand which in real life would be totally impractical due to the weight of the chain, but damn is it awesome. Like some kind of medieval exosuit.
If you ever played AssCreed 2 or Brotherhood, you’ll find that heavy Borgia guards wear frog mouth helmets as footsoldiers. It’s funnier than it should be.
I wounder how medieval people would react to the idea of someone using one of these in combat I would assume they would react somewhat similarly to someone in the current era seeing a moder day soldiers wearing a football helmet.
Thank you for such an informative video on this helmet. I always had an interest and curiosity of this style of helmet. Never went to deep into the research, so thank you for explanations.
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Jouster and frogmouth wearer here... In a joust, you most definitely *do* want the weight of this helmet resting on your breast/back plate and strapped down very tight. This is a very heavy helmet and to carry the weight of it all on your neck would dangerous. As you mentioned, this helmet was designed for the "Joust of Peace" (i.e. "gestech" or joust "a'plaisance") and, as such, the head was a target. This helmet was specifically designed to sit on your cuirass. You *do not* want to be hit in the head if this is just resting on the top of your head. Also, in this style of joust, the breast and back plate were much different than your field armour cuirass. In the proper joust of peace cuirass, the weight of the breast/back are not only suspended via internal leather straps at the shoulders but also via a leather "girdle" that is cinched at the waist. These two systems help balance the weight of the helmet and cuirass on the hips and the shoulders vs. just on your neck. The integral suspension system of the padded liner is to keep your head suspended in the middle of the helmet and protect it from rattling around inside the helmet when struck. An excellent extant example of this suspension system can be seen inside of the "joust of war" (i.e. "rennen" or joust "a'outrance") harness at the Royal Armouries at Leeds. collections.royalarmouries.org/object/rac-object-17485.html (although this picture doesn't show it, there are others on the internet that do)
I've been around horses all my life and I promise you the horses looked out for them. the horse would work out "know" the rider was blind below a certain field of view, when in such gear, and protect them. horses are herd animals and their instincts to look for their fellows mean they can do this rather well - including their sharing of vision - it is a fact that during rides at night they can see far better than humans can and they would weave the rider away from low branches etc quite naturally - it was considered a safe way to get about at night - horses will also do quite complex manoeuvres (untrained) to save their riders they are very aware of the mortality of their "friend" and will not easily risk them a horse wold step, spin, block, and use body language to tell the rider what is going on - and the rider would know instantly what to do
I've seen some frogmouth helms with holes opened below the lower "lip" to allow for more ventilation and better sight...but I understand that those are NOT for jousting,but for duelling. On foot.
im ngl when i get better at modeling i wanna make a modernized/sci - fi version of this taking all of the classic cues and combining it with a respirator, camera suite, etc
Speaking of battlefield helmets, what do you think of the morrion? It was used by spanish Conquistadors and by papal armies. It seem to be some kind of variation of the kettle hat.
I love the look of a frogmouth helmet. Unfortunately for me, you mentioned the one thing that would have forever kept me out of the joust. I don't need to *feel* claustrophobic; I already am claustrophobic, and I would be completely unwilling to wear it as a result.
When I was younger (way younger, like, when I was 7 or 8) I redesigned the frogmouth helmet to theoretically offer more mobility and vision and it seemed like it could work for my 7 or 8 year old mind. I wonder if I could find it or redo the exercise because it is still my aesthetically favorite type of helmet. That and the armet.
Breathing deeply to expel the CO2 from the helmet or another similarly enclosed helmet is important otherwise it will feel like suffocating on a plastic bag and you will suffer breathing and stamina penalties to the point of loss consciousness while in the battle field.
Aahhh, I thought it was going to be 13minutes of Metatron just striking glorious poses in the armour with the epic music in the back ground. But the info part is just as good I guess.
Firstly, when I was a 75 kilogram triathlon runner I use to bicep curl 10kg dumbbells. And I use to train and exercise for years maintaining 75 kilograms of bodyweight. Furthermore, when I was 75kg in bodyweight it did not matter how much protein powder and training I had I never curled above 10kg dumbbells. In contrast, in later years I one day decided to eat up to 200 kilograms of bodyweight. And when I did that my dumbbell curls went up to 24 kilogram dumbells. As a result, during my life I have established that the heavier you are the stronger you are. And regardless of how much exercise you do if you are heavier in bodyweight you will be stronger.
I think that, with some adjustments, the frogmouth helmet would be great for actual battles. Some of these changes would be slightly more form-fitting, (but still inhuman looking) more articulation for the neck, and the visor being more downturned.
Some gladiators fought in similarly protective yet blinding helmets. Sources say their training and fighting technique depended on never losing sight of the opponent, because, if that happenened, they suddenly became sitting ducks. Gladiators wore little armour besides their helmets which made them nimble and quick so respotting the opponent in time with such obstructed vision was to be avoided at all costs.
Gladiators actually wore kit specific to the kind of Gladiator they were trained as. It was very game like in that they had class specific gear. Also as far as how important anything was in a match between Gladiators, it's important to remember most of their fights with each other were shows, NOT actual fights to the death. Yes, they did fight to the death occasionally. However, Ludus owners paid OBSCENE amounts of money to train strong slaves as Gladiators. It was a massive investment. They did not like pouring coin down the drain. Think of them as professional fighters who mostly put on shows and only very occasionally actually fought for real.
@@thisdude9363 Yes, you're right. Inflicting mortal wounds wasn't what their owners wanted them to do, because that would damage the whole sport/business as an institution.
Looking at how the front of the helmet is angled it looks suited for jousting since the tip of the lance could strike the face, but the angles prevent it from making a solid hit, but would likely deflect the lance rather than absorb it. I'm also reminded of a certain king, who Nostradamus famously warned, who got killed during a joust when fragments of a lance pierced his eye and killed him. I don't know if he wore something like this helmet, but he might have survived if he did wear it.
I often think about fitting medieval armour, especially the heavy, restrictive armour like frogmouth helmets with modern technology. Making up for loss of vision with cameras and internal screens, having integrated fan and cooling systems for a more comfortable temperature and a greater level of air circulation, etc, etc. I think there's a lot of interesting potential there, but I can't recall I've ever seen it discussed (or done) before. Can't help but imagine, in an alternate universe where gunpowder and explosives were never a thing, a full plate power armour knight is riding his motorbike into battle.
Well, a Frogmouth that is bolted to a chest plate, doesn't actually look that different from the Brewster Body Shield, one of the earliest attempts at bullet proof armor.
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I'm convinced the visor slot was only made with the intent of consuming beverages in mind. Seriously, pour a coke down there, just funnels it straight to your mouth. It's actually genius design.
saled with bevor in a joust... that's why at som point in the 15th century the bevor was rivered to the visor (later to evolve into the closed helmet) in the 1970s this was reinvented by reenactors. and than the curator of the museum thay where at showed them the original. (ask doc. Capwel)
Its iconic no doubt, I have seen it in Alien movies - the aliens had this kida Helmet, not the humans ;) It's a highly specialised helmet for peace times - just sports, wich makes it even better - which kind of armour we invented without having killing the enemy in mind? It's surprising how much relatively comfort you had with his helmet, I am impressed.
The Frogmouth always looks like its chuckling smugly at everyone, like its just constantly thinking about how superior it is to everyone around it.
I remember old cartoons where a knight in one would talk, or more often mock, at someone and the helmet would open and close like that was a mouth. As I kid a always thought it was so dumb it was hilarious. XD
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I love how it almost looks futuristic and minimalistic in design, like if I just saw the helmet for the first time not knowing anything about history I'd think it was for some modern scifi robot movie
It looks like the head of a Cylon from Battlestar Galactica.
The head of RoboCain in Robocop 2 was quite reminiscent of a frogmouth helmet.
It´s the helmet still in use by the alien Chigs in Space: Above and Beyond (or Space 2063, in Germany)
It has some similarity to the snake head helmets from stargate i'd say.
Less is better
I kinda' like the design of the frogmouth helmet. I think the fact that it hides all of the facial features gives it a more intimidating look. It's definitely cool on an aesthetic level in my personal opinion. Awesome video, Metatron! I can really tell how much work you put into them.
And the helmet let's your opponents see the reflection of the last face they make before they die
@Giuliano Matrix Yeah, I mistakenly posted it before getting to that part 😅
I like it because it's a staple appearance in my favorite video game series
@Matrix Reloaded I'd think about taking some English classes before you act like a smartass. Even then everybody knows the Frogmouth helmet was for jousting exclusively.
The frogmouth helmet would make a fantastic novelty teapot or pitcher for serving drinks.
A pitcher made from the helm of a defeated enemy.
But the drink has to be blood!
I'LL DRINK FROM YOUR SKU... Actually huh, guess your helmet works much better for drunking than a skull.
I do love the look of it it reminds me of the frost style helm that suit from warframe.
It would be 🤔
I wonder if Henri II would have survived had he worn this kind of helmet during his fatal jousting in July 1559.
I'd say its well worth remembering that no armor is 100% effective, so even if this gives 'em a (much) better chance very likely reducing the instant severity of any injury it may just change how you die. Especially pre-antibiotics and advanced medical facilities.
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This is a lot of protection though. It would have made survival the most likely outcome methinks
@@CtrlAltRetreat maybe he was supposed to get on a plane before the joust and the plane crashed…
@@foldionepapyrus3441 I totally agree with you, even if the helmet survives a heavy hit, the head inside still shakes around violently wich could cause brain damage or even death in unlucky cases.
Yeah probably, in a jousting tournament though I would be more so worried about any internal injuries you can’t fix. Not so much broken bones they could probably fix those to an extent. Especially for the time period. Although I doubt the king is getting in heavy amounts of jousting tournaments. He is probably training to some extent but he’s definitely not getting the crap beat out of him on a normal basis.
I’ve never seen something look so badass AND so ridiculous at the same time. 😂
I recently went to a medieval village here in Denmark and tried a great helm for jousting (but not a frog mouth). I was surprised by that visibility (much better than I expected and the model I tried allowed some vertical FoW as well) but what I didn't expect was the noise: I could hear myself breathing so loudly and every external noise was amplified inside the helm. I think that would've distracred me more than anything else while jousting.
I wonder if one could have worn it on the battlefield though
I think It would be ways around the noise too, a padded coif that fills the gaps inside the helmet would mitigate that "bell" effect.
@@m0-m0597 With that weight I doubt it. To test the visibility me and some guys from my HEMA club tried to swing around at reduced speed with some short swords that were available for use in the same spot and though again visibility didn't bother us too much (or as much as we thought) at that speed, it hindered our agility a lot.
@@davidvalderrey9385 I would assume so but then breathing would be pretty miserable while wearing that for more than a few minutes at a time. I'd like to try it though
@@davidvalderrey9385padded coif plus the chain mail coif then the great helm
It’s amazing how trying out something in real life gives you unique insights into what you would have otherwise never grasped! Thanks for this. I’m very surprised about the field of vision. Those medieval smiths knew what they were doing.
One thing I noticed as you did some close ups on the lip is that the sharp (relatively) edges of the frogmouth opening would have easily bit into and grasped any wooden shaft entering into to, so that specific design was likely very purposeful. Even if a lance or spear somehow made it into the gap, the shape would have stopped it before it went too far-hopefully before it reached your face!
The frogmouth helmet looks awesome. Imagine a warrior wearing this charging at full tilt with their lance pointed straight at you! Though it really seems too impractical to use outside of jousting
I love how the helmet looks. It's a shame that it's limited to just jousting, rather than battles and duels. I'd love to see more of the frogmouth helmet.
In an rpg setting I think you could justify frogmouths being used for fighting large monsters and whatnot. Easy to see big monsters even with the limited vision and your normal helmet won't stop your neck from breaking if something like a giant smacked you in it.
Also, if you had gladiator type fights in a medieval setting you could easily make classes/characters like the Romans did and have one that wears a frogmouth.
The Frogmouth helmet was designed for Jousting. It's basically a Jousting helmet. On the Battlefield this type of helmet would impair your field of view but for jousting is perfect.
@@mhauda if the monster had a tail you wouldn't see that tail swipe
@@BringDHouseDown needs breath holes or slots for a bit of added visibility
would it be possible in theory to solve the FOV problem with mirrors?
The Frogmouth looks as if it acted as a forerunner to the HANS device (a device used in motorsports to reduce whiplash in vehicle impacts) as the FM helmet straps to the armor. The perfect helmet concept for jousting.
My thoughts exactly. I used to race and as soon as i saw the inside of that helmet and how it was tied to the chest plate it instantly reminded of the HANS i used to own.
😮 and those double lane snow plows!!
The potential for comedic sketches in that get up is phenomenal. I want to see Metatron Python routine with that!
Unbreakable Lapp thanks you for the coverage
I've studied absolutely insane armor made for jousting. Just last week, I recognized examples in a museum, looked like normal armor except the arm, the breastplate and even the helmet were all one piece.
So cool man, after you showed the frogmouth helmet in that video I was waiting for this video. I got in love with this helmet 😁
I would wager that knights competing in jousts in heavy rain would have wished they had the option of getting weather forecasts. Or at least forecasts that didn't depend on which way a flock of birds flew or how the entrails of a goat looked. The upside is if you actually found yourself competing one without a lance nearby, a piping hot cup of McDonald's coffee down the visor would work.
I'd sneak up behind with a drawstring sack. Game over.
They didn't exist though. That's like saying they would have wished for smartphones
People tended to look up at the sky more than on pagan prophetic traditions for semi-reliable forecasts, they also relied on the season, such as expecting way less rain during summer, more during other times of the year, and made educated guesses based on those. Weren’t entrails a roman thing?
Probably not more than a day or two at most of forecast though depending on the region and culture
You spend enough time outdoors you smell rain in the air. Animals let you know too by their actions.
@@xariasfury5782 most places had a yearly farmers almanac. Wet winter dry summer or late spring and Indian summers for example. You can use trees or flowers to predict the weather. Flowers drying means no rain now or in the bear future.
Please get also a Corinthian helmet! That would have been a great antique comparison to the frogmouth!
Even if it did absolutely nothing dude frogmouth helmets just look epic
This is my favorite knight helmet; it looks noble and almost futuristic.
Expected a footage from inside the helmet. Unless I've missed it.
@@Apathetic_Corndog The first topic of this video is visibility inside the helment. The visibility isn't demonstrated, which is a missed opportunity as it's easy to show.
One video I’d be interested in seeing is a breakdown of how historically accurate aspects of Fire Emblem are. Armor, combat, cost of materials, etc.
Oh man, I fuckin' love the OG Knight chest plate/shield, and how they remove it before thrusting with their spear. Not to mention the chain that draws their spear back into their hand which in real life would be totally impractical due to the weight of the chain, but damn is it awesome. Like some kind of medieval exosuit.
Neighbor: "Bill...that weird fella is out there walking around in his armor again!"
Thanks a lot. I just spit coffee all over my keyboard when you did the Teapot knight pour at 7:05 🤣
I feel like we don't give this guy enough credit for walking around in public parks in full armor for science.
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Whatever you have done, keep doing it.
Ah yes, the medieval Kermit
Metatron has become a Dark Souls 3 sweat.
Exactly lul
I just realized the Chigs from Space: Above and Beyond had the frogmouthed helm.
If you ever played AssCreed 2 or Brotherhood, you’ll find that heavy Borgia guards wear frog mouth helmets as footsoldiers. It’s funnier than it should be.
The drip is unreal with this helm
Metatron looks horrific with that kabuto shadowline.
Even if the frogmouth helmet is awful to wear, it still looks incredibly intimidating. You look like a freaking Dark Souls miniboss.
I wounder how medieval people would react to the idea of someone using one of these in combat I would assume they would react somewhat similarly to someone in the current era seeing a moder day soldiers wearing a football helmet.
US soldiers did actually used hockey helmets during early 90s due to how uncomfortable helmets were until recently
@@KudoRedfox I definitely wouldn't blame them the PASGT Helmets on top of being super uncomfortable where only level 3a.
I'm curious what you'd think of the quite abundant pictorical depictions of people wearing frogmouths into battle, though.
Thank you for such an informative video on this helmet. I always had an interest and curiosity of this style of helmet. Never went to deep into the research, so thank you for explanations.
You Look GLORIOUS in the intro!
*Titanium Armour*
Firstly, titanium armours can be spaced apart to increase the effectiveness at stopping bullets. And spacing the titanium sheets apart creates a cushion that slows the bullet before the titanium is penetrated. For example, a titanium shield can have a thin 1.2mm sheet of titanium over the front of the main shield plate. This 1.2mm sheet can have spacer lugs welded to it. Furthermore, a bullets force will be reduced on impact with a space of 1 centimetre inbetween two titanium sheets. And a 1.2mm sheet of titanium in front of the main shield plate would do this. Lastly, this titanium spaced armour has actually been demonstrated and tested to be effective on the American demolition ranches.
Next, spacing other metals apart would create a similar bullet stopping effect. And I imagine that spacing steel apart would be effective to create a cushion that would slow a bullet. In addition, aluminium would also increase in effectiveness spaced apart. Furthermore, I think because of the properties of aluminium spacing it would have limited benifits. However, you would still increase your bullet stopping power by spacing your aluminium apart. As a result, I think that all your metal and alloy armours should be spaced in some way and taking the time to do that is a good idea. Lastly, when you space your armours apart it is so effective that you can expect to stop a higher calibre bullet. And this is particularly useful on a shield.
Table#1 Types of Shields
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*Titanium backpack buckler*
-40cm in diameter
-4mm thick titanium
-Weight 2.5kg including handle
-If the 4mm of titanium is a high tensile strength and spaced correctly you will be able to stop 7.62 NATO and 50cal magnum rounds with this buckler.
*Steel backpack buckler*
-40cm in diameter
-3.5mm thick steel
-Weight 3.7kg including handle
-If the 3.5mm of steel is a high tensile strength and spaced correctly you will be able to stop 5.56 NATO and 45cal magnum rounds with this buckler.
*Titanium Tower Shield*
-100cm×70cm in Area
-3mm thick titanium
-Weight 10kg including handle
-If the 3mm of titanium is a high tensile strength and spaced correctly you will be able to stop 45cal magnum rounds and 5.56 NATO with this shield.
*Titanium Shield*
-50cm×70cm in Area
-3mm thick titanium
-Weight 5kg including handle
-If the 3mm of titanium is a high tensile strength and spaced correctly you will be able to stop 45cal magnum rounds and 5.56 NATO with this shield.
*Aluminium Shield*
-50cm×70cm in Area
-10mm thick Aluminium
-Weight 10kg including handle
-The tensile strength of aluminium varies a lot between regular aluminium and the 7000 series of aluminium. And that means you can make this shield just as effective as titanium.
*Steel Shield*
-50cm×70cm in Area
-3.5mm thick steel
-Weight 10kg including handle
-If the 3.5mm of steel is a high tensile strength and spaced correctly you will be able to stop 45cal magnum rounds and 5.56 NATO with this shield.
Lastly, the perfect thickness for bullet proof brigandine plates is 3.0mm or 4mm titanium. And you just try and find the highest tensile strength titanium you can and just use that thickness. In addition, I have also decided that if you get a 1mm thick aluminium face size plate you can shape it in to a horror face and then bolt it to your titanium helmet. As a result, you can have a full set of bullet proof brigandine armour with a horror face helmet. That is going to be terrifying with swords and bowling ball cannons. Finally, if your metal tensile strength is high enough you will be able to deflect or even completely proof yourself against 7.62 NATO bullets.
Table #2 Use of Formulas
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s = tensile strength in pascals (Pa)
F = force in newtons (N)
A = cross-sectional area in (m²)
m = bullet grain mass (kg)
a = acceleration of bullet (m/s²)
t = time of impact (seconds)
v = velocity (m/s)
*(m(v/t=a)=F)/s=A*
9mm bullet Force = (m(v/t=a)=F)
v/t=a
(430m/s)/(0.0024s)=179,167m/s²
ma=F
(0.0075kg)(179,167)=1344N
Aluminium tensile strength = 240MPa = 240000000Pa
F/s=A
(1344N)/(240000000)=5.6e-6m²
5.6e-6m² = 0.0000056m2 = 0.056cm² = 5.6mm²
Therefore, a 115 grain 9mm bullet traveling at 430m/s requires 5.6mm² of 240MPa Aluminium to block it.
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Thats technicaly true.
Great content as always Raph, keep up the good work
Jouster and frogmouth wearer here...
In a joust, you most definitely *do* want the weight of this helmet resting on your breast/back plate and strapped down very tight. This is a very heavy helmet and to carry the weight of it all on your neck would dangerous.
As you mentioned, this helmet was designed for the "Joust of Peace" (i.e. "gestech" or joust "a'plaisance") and, as such, the head was a target. This helmet was specifically designed to sit on your cuirass. You *do not* want to be hit in the head if this is just resting on the top of your head.
Also, in this style of joust, the breast and back plate were much different than your field armour cuirass. In the proper joust of peace cuirass, the weight of the breast/back are not only suspended via internal leather straps at the shoulders but also via a leather "girdle" that is cinched at the waist. These two systems help balance the weight of the helmet and cuirass on the hips and the shoulders vs. just on your neck. The integral suspension system of the padded liner is to keep your head suspended in the middle of the helmet and protect it from rattling around inside the helmet when struck.
An excellent extant example of this suspension system can be seen inside of the "joust of war" (i.e. "rennen" or joust "a'outrance") harness at the Royal Armouries at Leeds. collections.royalarmouries.org/object/rac-object-17485.html (although this picture doesn't show it, there are others on the internet that do)
I would really love to see a Video on the Heaviest Samurai Configuration, its uses, history, and what situations favored and disfavored it.
I've been around horses all my life and I promise you the horses looked out for them. the horse would work out "know" the rider was blind below a certain field of view, when in such gear, and protect them. horses are herd animals and their instincts to look for their fellows mean they can do this rather well - including their sharing of vision - it is a fact that during rides at night they can see far better than humans can and they would weave the rider away from low branches etc quite naturally - it was considered a safe way to get about at night - horses will also do quite complex manoeuvres (untrained) to save their riders they are very aware of the mortality of their "friend" and will not easily risk them
a horse wold step, spin, block, and use body language to tell the rider what is going on - and the rider would know instantly what to do
Horses - the first self driving vehicles.
I swear the greatest pro of that helmet seems to be intimidation. Similar to how certain face covers are used by military nowadays.
I admit I lol'd with the teapot graphic. The frogmouth helmet has always looked badass.
I've seen some frogmouth helms with holes opened below the lower "lip" to allow for more ventilation and better sight...but I understand that those are NOT for jousting,but for duelling.
On foot.
Looks like Lapp from the ringed city.
The helmet matches the British space suit designed in the 1940s.
im ngl when i get better at modeling i wanna make a modernized/sci - fi version of this taking all of the classic cues and combining it with a respirator, camera suite, etc
I love ypur videos. Such a complete TH-camr
Speaking of battlefield helmets, what do you think of the morrion? It was used by spanish Conquistadors and by papal armies. It seem to be some kind of variation of the kettle hat.
Tried sharing the video with my cat, she disappointed there were no actual frogs to chase, I however enjoyed the video! Keep up the good work
thank you to thos channel for always doing the right thing for the right reason bravo metatron and the nobleones!!!
I am still surprised that someone came up with that design. I am really curious to know what was the thought process.
I love the look of a frogmouth helmet. Unfortunately for me, you mentioned the one thing that would have forever kept me out of the joust. I don't need to *feel* claustrophobic; I already am claustrophobic, and I would be completely unwilling to wear it as a result.
I hear you, playing paintball and hearing my breathing all around the mask used to freak me out!
Coolest knight helmet, when I see this helmet it makes knights look as menacing as they should be
I would love to see you spar wearing this against someone wearing a kettle hat! 😆
Fantastic Intro !! When can
We expect the rest of the Movie Coming out? 😉😂
When I was younger (way younger, like, when I was 7 or 8) I redesigned the frogmouth helmet to theoretically offer more mobility and vision and it seemed like it could work for my 7 or 8 year old mind. I wonder if I could find it or redo the exercise because it is still my aesthetically favorite type of helmet. That and the armet.
Breathing deeply to expel the CO2 from the helmet or another similarly enclosed helmet is important otherwise it will feel like suffocating on a plastic bag and you will suffer breathing and stamina penalties to the point of loss consciousness while in the battle field.
Dark Souls 3 Lapps cosplay xD
Haven't watched you in a while, love the warhammer fantasy minis in the back
I know that helmet is just supposed to be armor but I see art.
Aahhh, I thought it was going to be 13minutes of Metatron just striking glorious poses in the armour with the epic music in the back ground. But the info part is just as good I guess.
Firstly, when I was a 75 kilogram triathlon runner I use to bicep curl 10kg dumbbells. And I use to train and exercise for years maintaining 75 kilograms of bodyweight. Furthermore, when I was 75kg in bodyweight it did not matter how much protein powder and training I had I never curled above 10kg dumbbells. In contrast, in later years I one day decided to eat up to 200 kilograms of bodyweight. And when I did that my dumbbell curls went up to 24 kilogram dumbells. As a result, during my life I have established that the heavier you are the stronger you are. And regardless of how much exercise you do if you are heavier in bodyweight you will be stronger.
I bought a bascinet with a similar Plow visor, it's one of my favorite styles of helmet, that flat, angular look on a sleek helmet
The helmet looks so nice. Great insight into what it feels like to wear a helmet of this type
Not just tea, but you could give an oration from within the frogmouth using a Kermit the frog type voice.
I think that, with some adjustments, the frogmouth helmet would be great for actual battles. Some of these changes would be slightly more form-fitting, (but still inhuman looking) more articulation for the neck, and the visor being more downturned.
If you ever decide to fight on foot while wearing a frogmouth, pray that you never encounter your kryptonite: an angry dwarf.
The tea with the biscuits part made me laugh so hard.
thorough indeed. a gaijin pronouncing ‘samurai’ correctly? absolutely amazing.
Some gladiators fought in similarly protective yet blinding helmets. Sources say their training and fighting technique depended on never losing sight of the opponent, because, if that happenened, they suddenly became sitting ducks. Gladiators wore little armour besides their helmets which made them nimble and quick so respotting the opponent in time with such obstructed vision was to be avoided at all costs.
Gladiators actually wore kit specific to the kind of Gladiator they were trained as. It was very game like in that they had class specific gear.
Also as far as how important anything was in a match between Gladiators, it's important to remember most of their fights with each other were shows, NOT actual fights to the death. Yes, they did fight to the death occasionally. However, Ludus owners paid OBSCENE amounts of money to train strong slaves as Gladiators. It was a massive investment. They did not like pouring coin down the drain. Think of them as professional fighters who mostly put on shows and only very occasionally actually fought for real.
@@thisdude9363 Yes, you're right. Inflicting mortal wounds wasn't what their owners wanted them to do, because that would damage the whole sport/business as an institution.
As for looks, I really love it. Now I see it's most likely the producers of "Space: Above and Beyond" based their Chigg design on the frogmouth.
Looking at how the front of the helmet is angled it looks suited for jousting since the tip of the lance could strike the face, but the angles prevent it from making a solid hit, but would likely deflect the lance rather than absorb it. I'm also reminded of a certain king, who Nostradamus famously warned, who got killed during a joust when fragments of a lance pierced his eye and killed him. I don't know if he wore something like this helmet, but he might have survived if he did wear it.
The teapot joke was SPOT ON
Wow that's freakin beautiful. Congratulations.
I wish you could put camera inside the helmet so we can understand the real vision scope. Really curious..
One of my favourite helmets. They look so cool.
I love the frog helm it will forever be one of my favorites next to the shallot
just gotta love the tactical bucket
best part of the video? the tea pot knight, that had me roll. Really interesting video anyway
I often think about fitting medieval armour, especially the heavy, restrictive armour like frogmouth helmets with modern technology.
Making up for loss of vision with cameras and internal screens, having integrated fan and cooling systems for a more comfortable temperature and a greater level of air circulation, etc, etc.
I think there's a lot of interesting potential there, but I can't recall I've ever seen it discussed (or done) before.
Can't help but imagine, in an alternate universe where gunpowder and explosives were never a thing, a full plate power armour knight is riding his motorbike into battle.
Well, a Frogmouth that is bolted to a chest plate, doesn't actually look that different from the Brewster Body Shield, one of the earliest attempts at bullet proof armor.
Very interesting episode. Fascinating helmet.
"Oh, look at you, you've got your head screwed on correct.
Fantastic, to meet a kindred spirit, on this godforsaken crag.
Call me Lapp. I can't remember my real name, so let's just go with that.
I have a feeling we're going to make a fabulous team. Oh, you'll see, you'll see!
ohh, in all honesty there's something I should tell you
I'm..a hollow. Yes, I try to play it off, but i haven't a clue about my past.
Who I was , or what I lived for. Not even my own blessed name.
That's why I've come here, searching - for the purging monument, said to be in the ringed city. Where the pygmies who found the dark souls at the dawn of fire reside.
All I can say is, those little stones aren't doing much to help me remember anymore.
Well, that's the long and short of it,
so if I completely forget who you are, don't be wrath with me
c'mon what else can I say, I'm a bloody hollow for heaven's sake!"
the tea one was spot on, you could make a chinese kettle mechanism to spit tea on your enemies.
I might be the only one, but honestly the frogmouth looks so badass to me.
Dark souls 2 made this one of my favorite helmets; love to see how it functions in reality.
Teapot knight! That got me. 🤣🤣🤣
Metatron's wife is a legend! 😄👍
That's what a bulletproof vest should look like.
Wow, that's some piece of gear.
That is an amazing set of armor! You look monolithic in it.
I'm convinced the visor slot was only made with the intent of consuming beverages in mind. Seriously, pour a coke down there, just funnels it straight to your mouth. It's actually genius design.
Weren't the cheek guards tied down on some Roman helmets? 🤔
The horse would basically be a seeing guide horse with that helmet.
You look glorious in medieval armor my friend!
saled with bevor in a joust... that's why at som point in the 15th century the bevor was rivered to the visor (later to evolve into the closed helmet)
in the 1970s this was reinvented by reenactors. and than the curator of the museum thay where at showed them the original.
(ask doc. Capwel)
Its iconic no doubt, I have seen it in Alien movies - the aliens had this kida Helmet, not the humans ;)
It's a highly specialised helmet for peace times - just sports, wich makes it even better - which kind of armour we invented without having killing the enemy in mind?
It's surprising how much relatively comfort you had with his helmet, I am impressed.
I'm more of a hounskull fan myself. I love the beakie.
This is simple a BADASS video. But I never want to wear a frog helmet. Thank you for your time and video.
That helmet makes my think of a Alessi coffee pot! I still think it’s cool though!