@@Ramsey276oneDream of the Red Chamber is a Chinese book, not a Korean book, so no, it's not written in the Korean script Hangeul. On top of having 2500 pages, it is also written in Classical Chinese, not modern vernacular Chinese making it extremely difficult to translate and even understand.
outis's personality thing is because she is supposed to have a military personality, so she treats dante like someone would treat a higher rank, which is also why she disses him before he becomes manager
But then again, Outis means "Nobody", calling back to when Odysseus tricked the Cyclops into saying "Nobody" was attacking them. The Limbus Co. Higher ups even personally put 2 red flags in her profile like. Damn.
i wanna think is like one of those japanese cliches "looks like a bad person , seems like a bad person but in the end is actually good". Knowing project moon they probably gonna make faust a traitor and outis being on dante's side the whole time.
@@GatoEpico dante's inferno spoilers .. .. so odysseus actually appears in the divine commedia and, due to dante's half understanding of the odyssey (it wasn't translated from greek to italian at the time), dante is under the impression odysseus was sort of a jackass who let his hubris kill all his men (not far from the truth) and threw him in one of the lowest levels of hell as punishment for "taking the lives of others" and in the inferno, tells as much to odysseus (read:"you fucking idiot, you absolute moron") although good news is odysseus helps dante and vergil cross some treacherous seas(?) with his sailing experience so that's looking good for outis. i kinda expect a half turn around from outis because not only would it be a great parallel to odysseus, but also like a judas figure if we consider all the sinners akin to dante's disciples
@@GatoEpico Makes sense, considering how Book Faust quite literally made a deal with the actual devil in exchange for their unlimited knowledge. Hell, there's an entire WORD based on the book: Faustian, meaning "made or done for present gain without regard for future cost or consequences."
@@hikari9513 Tbf canon Koishi is genuinely lobotomized and has said some crazy stuff, though she is not insane in the same way that the fanon and KKTHA protrays her as.
Meursault: is B tier Also Meursault: "Gosh this weather is slightly too hot and the sun is in my eyes, would be so unfortunate if something were to happen to my mother right about now."
It's worth mentioning that outis at the start of the game calls you trash , and when you're appointed manager she suddenly butters you up which raised a flag atleast for me anyway
If Don has a million fans I am one of them. If Don has ten fans I am one of them. If Don has one fan then that's me. If Don has no fans, that means I am no more on the earth. If the World is against Don, I am against the World.
Remember, every alt Don is depressed. We must protect Don because the moment she realizes she lives in PM game she will go even more insane and add PTSD to her list of neurodivergence
@@seraph_dalgon_9216 Homie... sit down and shut up. *I'm* the number one Don simp, you're just a pretender to the throne. Don really is such a fun character, right?
So about the aging of the video: -Yi Sang wrote in his letters and ACTUAL THEATRE PLAY about his life, the crimes he and the others around him committed and his obsession with himself in another universe; -Mersault is actually the only one in the bus who can properly cook; -Ishamel`s sanity is directly proportional to her distance from the nearest boat or big body of water; -Dante seems to have gained sanity by losing his memories. He might slowly climb the rank if THAT moment from "Yield my flesh to claim their bones" is to be believed.
still sad about the fact that the model of Yi Sang, which is also Yi-Sang, is very popular and respected poet in Korea... Yi Sang sounds a bit more artistic in Korean version because there is difference in language, but he still speaks like a nerd addicted in literature
Fun part is that their Fixer Identities are the ones who become more normal. Yi-Sang becomes a mentor to many and is well liked in Seven, Outis now has her own place, Ryoshu is still Ryoshu, Gregor doesn't have cockroach arm and apparently wanting to have a break from work, Mersault isn't actually hard to communicate anymore but just stubborn and a blockhead while being a trainer to greenhorns, Hong Lu now realizes that people aren't rich like him, Don realizes what being a Fixer finally is and gets depressed, Heathcliff just wants to make ends meet and make a living while not having to handle anger management issues, Ishmael has a somewhat okay relationship with Heathcliff in the Shi Association, Sinclair is essentially a police patrol in Zwei and apparently friends with Don.
I think one of the "happiest" identities I've see of Don is her Cique Association identity. Every other one, she just looks lost and dead inside and it lowkey hurts to see that.
So you put Rodya in A tier for killing one person who arguably deserved it but you put faust in D tier completely ignoring the fact that she made a FLESH EATING BUS that runs on BRAIN JUICE AND MEAT. Faust is more sane than most but the person who made the limbussy can not be put lower than C the same place Rodya should be because murder is normal in the city and not really a big deal.
Like I said in a previous comment, I live in hope for Project Moon to give us an entire chapter of just Ishmael angrily shouting out (mostly incorrect) whale facts. I also find it funny how the character who looks the most like a Disney princess is ironically the most "bland" person on the bus (excluding Mr. Salt).
I just want a scene in her chapter were she gets wasted, starts crying because she misses Queequeg and then loudly starts singing sea shanties. Ishmael, before the drink: "While this is a public bar, we should avoid standing out yet again. Maybe we will finish a mission without any of us embarrasing themself" Ishmael, literly a single glass of beer later: "SOON MAY THE WELLERMAN COME! TO BRING US SUGAR AND TEA AND RUM!...."
@@plinfan6541 I would love to see how they adapt Ishmael's cannibal "husband". Although, knowing Project Moon, and the fact that Ishmael's backstory implies that she (and possibly Ahab) is the only survivor of the voyage, the gag might take a turn for the depressing. Which is why, if Project Moon ever decides to do it, we should milk that moment for every bit of meme potential from it while we can.
Idk how eng translation is made, but like 40% of Yi Sang popping into the conversation out of nowhere(ie, talking too much) is part of Korean-joke; his name sounds exactly the same to the word that is often used in conversation, so every time we use the word 이상 he thinks they are calling him But yeah he is more talkative than I expected him to, quite a surprise
Tsunul- infinite tier: try's to justify his reasons to simp to a girl that: speaks in the third person, made a bus that eats still living people and uses their pain and suffering as fuel, can communicate with a person that has a clock for a head. and this is why we need a Tsunul identity for every sinner except Faust :)
As an Outis simp. I can guarantee you that she will groom Dante to think like her instead of betrayal. Because Dante is such a pushover, it won't take him long to actually start acting like a scheming mastermind
Rodion - Murders one person - "I'm gonna put her on A-, because murder might not be uncommon in the city, but I can't call it exactly normal either." Mersault - Joins a genocidal organization - B tier
@@TsunulI mean, you also put a f**king narcissist who's probably still a virgin because she was studying her whole life into D. And the development process of the engine of Mephistopheles also probably didn't go without a few "experiments" of testing out if it could properly extract enkephalin out of living people. So i guess she's still innocent even tho she made this abomination of a machine part while working for a shady company, secrets of which she isn't going to share with us very soon, huh. Goddam simp... Also, I don't think that Rodion did what she did purely out of wanting to be special, or as Dostoyevsky said "To prove that she(he) isn't a shivering beast, but a person of power." (Translation may be different, and my memory is a bit hazy about C&P, but that's how I remember this particular phrase) Unlike the original Rodion, she seemed to really have the want to help other people. Hell, her E.G.O is basically her guilt tripping about the fact that what she has done led to the death of all of these people, so she clearly regrets it.
@@Tsunul I mean, when your community is being oppressed by the IRS, who can blame you for taking up an axe and a cause? "Wanted to feel special" is more Rodion's self-actualization. She can't justify her actions, she can only explain them. By making herself the "one in the wrong," it ironically makes it easier to bear all the pain she caused. She regrets nothing but knows it was a bad move, people do dumb things when consumed by anger, and she believes she can't be forgiven just yet. If she thought her actions were just, the Rodion we see today would be no different from Kromer. By contrast Mersault willingly signing up with N Corp without even believing or contesting their philosophies, simply going through the motions, strikes me as *significantly* more unhinged. Going by his novel, he's the kind of man who could shoot someone dead five times over with his only thoughts being "the sun is bright."
Faust is a B-Tier. Because she's not as so much the precious waifu, smarter beyond her peers, but just that she's hired these absolute god damn GORILLAS as well someone who just wants to vroom vroom and the next RED. Hell, even she gave up by around Chapter 2
I have a sense Hong Lu isn't that sane man. I love me the tall femboy as much as anyone whose sexuality is within the homosexual spectrum, but like. The man praises the colors of people blowing up when he kills them and wonders how that feels. Rich boy upbringing doesn't put you in the Ryoshu school of murder appreciation. Mersault is in a weird -D tier. He is too sane to be sane. And too insane to be insane (still saner than Don tho). And I'm sorry Faust simps but like, the woman speaks in third person all the time. That's at least C tier insane.
Like, I am at least 70% sure Hong Lu's personality is just a mask he has kept on so long he forgot it was fabrication. He mentions that his relatives are kinda backstabby and I fear he is downplaying it. I am calling it now that Hong Lu is the heir of his family because every ambitious sibling he had is already dead by politics and everyone is fine with a seeming idiot on the throne since its a chance for them to grab more power. No doubt that Hong Lu is safer now in Limbus than he was back in his home estates
ok, ok... are we ABSOLUTELY surge tsunul doesn't have a piece of vergilius's soul within him or something? i'm telling, i think i'm seeing a pattern with the don hating here (lol)
Rodion didn’t kill the guy to feel special. She killed the head of the irs because no one could afford the taxes but then the rest of the irs came for her community as punishment
Ishy is the straight man cause Dante is too much of a wimp to stand up for themself against the crazier sinners. Faust fans shouldn't legally be allowed to have opinions smh
376 pages of Ismael book. And while another character is: Yi Sang - 50 pages (who cares) Mersault 126 (who cares) Rodion - 672 (I read it) Outis - like 1500 (?) Hong Lu - 2500+ pages (Who would read that?) Orlando Furioso - 870 pages
Okay I read Crime and punishment just because I am a Russian person, and our school forced us to read it. And I like it, but there will be better Russian books and poems then that
@@reverie02 No of course not. In my heart Crime and punishment is like 3rd or 2nd place from Russian literature. 1st place is comedy "Woe from wit" or "Горе от ума" as you like.
I will stand behind Don Quixote till the day I die. (Spoilers for all of LC and Library of Ruina) She could have prevented 90% of L Corps failures if she was there, simply by beating the fuck out of Ayin till he got his shit together, calmed down, and finished the Seed of Light Project. No Angela trauma, because he would have gotten his act together and got out of his depressive spiral. Distortions wouldn't have occured, because the light would have shone for the full 7 days, which also means no Angelica death, and a happy papa Roland. He and Argalia still hate each other, but slightly less now. Everyone gets a happy ending, all because a short queen would have been there to beat up a depressed simp.
From what Carmen described, I can imagine the light in everyone's subconscious is E.G.O. Now imagine the whole city full of evil people with ALEPH E.G.O running amok.
You should very much know that is pretty much impossible. The seed of light couldn't be finished without some form of suffering the entire point of the meltdowns was for the sefirot to find answers and meaning in their suffering including A. Beating up A would have done nothing more than Roland's rampage did. Add to that Angela and Roland were bound to suffer at some point Ruina goes over how the suffering they induced on the city would one day come to bite them as it did for all in the city's cycle.
Edit: Making some MUCH NEEDED changes as I've had some time to think about this. Yes, Hell's Chicken made me realize a few things. Also came up with much better summaries. Yi Sang: A fucking weirdo. Faust: Simultaneously the smartest and dumbest person on the bus, but she looks nice in a sweater at least. Don Quixote: Is Don Quixote. Ryoshu: Is definitely into CBT. Mersault: Is actually a brick. Hong Lu: Doesn't even know that people die when they're killed. Heathcliff: Has no chill. Ishmael: The normal one. Rodion(my beloved): Team mom. Sinclair: Had burned through all his coping mechanism day one. Outis: Her favorite foods are boot leather and shoe polish. Gregor: Funny bug man.
Before ish' chapter drops, i have sth i noticed. She's not just reasonable, she also has the instinct to protect. In her IDs and ch4 she was first to jump in front of others with her shield up, scolding them for getting in danger or others for putting them in said danger. She does what she can to prevent mess and angers at wild cards that cause it. Considering that book ishmael drove entire crew to death just because of the obsession- and blamed the target of said obsession for all of the disaster that unfolded, there might be something heavy that interjects her stable, composed behaviour. It's a hopeless situatin where even witnessing how her own actions cause destruction, she pins the blame on a "monster" and that deepens her obsession [which led to said destruction] even more. A trauma that struck so deep, changed her life so much, that denial is one defensive mechanism preventing personallity from collapsing upon itself.
only real complaint in the placement are Fish and Faust, with Faust being A for making the train that eats souls and shits out your other selves to use as power-ups and Fish is easily S- for being the sole survivor in the suicide voyage. seriously, who the fuck goes whaling in the oceans of pm-verse? especially when your city is ruled by corpos and their factories dumping who-knows-what shit in the goddamn waters, plus, distortions already being a thing. gay frogs would be the least of your worries. also probably has too many cetology books if she's anything like the actual character. would be S+ if later events revealed, in memory of her crew, she baptized her harpoon with someones or her own blood(for maximum metal) like Cap. Ahab asked the 3 pagans did with his. Still best waifu. >said voyage summarized in song form btw, th-cam.com/video/J7u7Yoc0KMI/w-d-xo.html
Sinclair promo video. In the end he is like charge up and really ready to kill anybody in a way, with swearing some dirty words. But still C in my heart. Rodion: Kill money lander to help poor people... And that about it. I will put her in B at least. Well she take care of Sinclair and everybody else. She trying to do that.
4:37 This man literally just stated all the reasons why I love that adorable little gremlin. Thank you, good sir. 4:42 You'll never take me alive copper!
One thing someone said in the comments of someone's video about ishmael that might bump her up by one tier: Heathcliff's solution to a problem is to repeatedly hit it really really hard Ishmael's solution is to find a hypothesis of the solution, attempt to solve the problem using said hypothesis, give up and repeatedly hit it really really hard
This video reminds me of that quote where Faust says something like “your undereducation does not make me overeducated.” To Heathcliff. And I am DYING to remember which episode it was from
Mersault and Yi Sang are me whenever i'm at school. No words, only quiet, possibly you couldn't even realize i would be there, until you talk to me. Probably that's the reason why they treat me like i'm special or smt like that. Anyway, good video
honestly, there are two sinners who i wouldn't mind just listening to talk endlessly, hong lu (liu association) and yi sang, yi sang can talk all he wants, i'm not gonna complain
14:30 the implication isn't that she will betray us, no. The implication is that she really REALLY wants promotions and is sucking up to Dante cuz he is the boss and she wants advance!ments.
Good content. I feel like Rodion is more of a c+ tier or at least b-. She has regret and learned from it (right?). A playful rogue but doesn't shit talk people. Presented as selfish but i believe she also cares for others (will it grow as time goes on?). One of the better characters so far. My other take is that these 3 share the same spectrum\tier: Yi Sang, Meursault, Faust. It's hard to say anything in details. First two don't even talk that much. It's curious to see their stories for sure. If you google Yi Sang, it actually brings you to the wiki page of a real korean writer\poet. As for Meursault, wiki again: Meursault is a commune in the Côte-d'Or department and region of Bourgogne-Franche-Comté in eastern France. And wine brand CHATEAU DE MEURSAULT, straight "drops of god" manga territory. Hong Lu's Roseate Desire is the best ego animation (imo).
Meursault is the main character of The Stranger. A guy who's so different from everybody that he doesn't care about what most people care about and he killed a man cause it was a hot day and the sun shone in his eyes.
I have one minor correction: Yi Sang did canonically pull bitches per leviathan, and clapped Gubo from N corp's cheeks on the daily before he became a sinner
In the most surprising turn of events, we found out that Meursault, in fact, one of the only sinners that CAN cook.
And with little to no experience according to him
mr salt
we better let him cook
outis can also cook, only meursault and outis can cook
I mean... Yes he can... But you cant convice me he eats anything else than the blandest, most efficient food unless STRICTLY told so...
"Moby dick is over 300 pages i aint reading that"
No one tell him that hong lus book dreams of the red chamber is 2500 pages
I beg your PARGON?!
Written in Hangul, or Western letters???
@@Ramsey276one Yes
@@First-to-last Western letters means more pages, methinks...
@@Ramsey276oneDream of the Red Chamber is a Chinese book, not a Korean book, so no, it's not written in the Korean script Hangeul.
On top of having 2500 pages, it is also written in Classical Chinese, not modern vernacular Chinese making it extremely difficult to translate and even understand.
outis's personality thing is because she is supposed to have a military personality, so she treats dante like someone would treat a higher rank, which is also why she disses him before he becomes manager
But then again, Outis means "Nobody", calling back to when Odysseus tricked the Cyclops into saying "Nobody" was attacking them. The Limbus Co. Higher ups even personally put 2 red flags in her profile like. Damn.
i wanna think is like one of those japanese cliches "looks like a bad person , seems like a bad person but in the end is actually good".
Knowing project moon they probably gonna make faust a traitor and outis being on dante's side the whole time.
@@GatoEpico dante's inferno spoilers
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so odysseus actually appears in the divine commedia and, due to dante's half understanding of the odyssey (it wasn't translated from greek to italian at the time), dante is under the impression odysseus was sort of a jackass who let his hubris kill all his men (not far from the truth) and threw him in one of the lowest levels of hell as punishment for "taking the lives of others" and in the inferno, tells as much to odysseus (read:"you fucking idiot, you absolute moron")
although good news is odysseus helps dante and vergil cross some treacherous seas(?) with his sailing experience so that's looking good for outis.
i kinda expect a half turn around from outis because not only would it be a great parallel to odysseus, but also like a judas figure if we consider all the sinners akin to dante's disciples
@@liben5052 naw dawg, you just spoiled bible three to me
@@GatoEpico Makes sense, considering how Book Faust quite literally made a deal with the actual devil in exchange for their unlimited knowledge. Hell, there's an entire WORD based on the book: Faustian, meaning "made or done for present gain without regard for future cost or consequences."
"I cannot call him insane [...], but at the same time I cannot call him normal".
So, would you say that he is a... Stranger to the society norms?
Okay, you get my like for that reference.
Don having her own tier is exactly why I like her
she the koishi of projectmoon
@@duyanhbui5386fanon koishi, she aint no psychopath
@@hikari9513 Tbf canon Koishi is genuinely lobotomized and has said some crazy stuff, though she is not insane in the same way that the fanon and KKTHA protrays her as.
Who is koishi
@@su4682 A Touhou character that cannot think and stead just acts purely on emotion and subconscious desire.
the appeal to sinclair is that he is normal person, having normal reactions. until he doesn't. i love him :D
Man's seen some shit. I honestly don't blame him. I get that pissed off just playing valorant
gregor is the perfect sinner to get a claw identity fr
Outis arbiter
@@baconatortapeworm Faust Angelica(Black silence identity)
Faust beholder 🤣
he boutta kill tax evaders
@@skell6134 don black silence (allas insted of sueno
Meursault: is B tier
Also Meursault: "Gosh this weather is slightly too hot and the sun is in my eyes, would be so unfortunate if something were to happen to my mother right about now."
No I feel like his reaction would be
Meursault:
he didn't kill his mother though, that's just slander :(
He did kill that Arab guy, though.
@@revaryk6868 yes, he did indeed do that
it selfdeffend at minumum
It's worth mentioning that outis at the start of the game calls you trash , and when you're appointed manager she suddenly butters you up which raised a flag atleast for me anyway
It sounds like perfectly normal employee behavior if you ask me
@@andresarancio6696 Fr fr, literally me at work
Damn
It could be because she has a lot of respect for authority, but the flag is still there.
Look im not pointing fingers but there are 2 repliers here who wear a mask and plan out lists of potential free rank options using names
If Don has a million fans I am one of them. If Don has ten fans I am one of them. If Don has one fan then that's me. If Don has no fans, that means I am no more on the earth. If the World is against Don, I am against the World.
Remember, every alt Don is depressed. We must protect Don because the moment she realizes she lives in PM game she will go even more insane and add PTSD to her list of neurodivergence
And that's why you go into the Don tier
While I appreciate to see a fellow Don fan, we must make things clear, I'm the #1 Don simp
@@andresarancio6696 yuuup
@@seraph_dalgon_9216 Homie... sit down and shut up. *I'm* the number one Don simp, you're just a pretender to the throne.
Don really is such a fun character, right?
So about the aging of the video:
-Yi Sang wrote in his letters and ACTUAL THEATRE PLAY about his life, the crimes he and the others around him committed and his obsession with himself in another universe;
-Mersault is actually the only one in the bus who can properly cook;
-Ishamel`s sanity is directly proportional to her distance from the nearest boat or big body of water;
-Dante seems to have gained sanity by losing his memories. He might slowly climb the rank if THAT moment from "Yield my flesh to claim their bones" is to be believed.
-Don.
@@wildbill7942 She is her biggest fan.
still sad about the fact that the model of Yi Sang, which is also Yi-Sang, is very popular and respected poet in Korea... Yi Sang sounds a bit more artistic in Korean version because there is difference in language, but he still speaks like a nerd addicted in literature
TBF, most of his poems sound like maniac ramblings, and he clearly did had some mental issues irk...
Mersauslt: "I killed mother today, or maybe it was yesterday, I don't know."
Yep, this guy is definitely normal man, definitely.
Fun part is that their Fixer Identities are the ones who become more normal.
Yi-Sang becomes a mentor to many and is well liked in Seven, Outis now has her own place, Ryoshu is still Ryoshu, Gregor doesn't have cockroach arm and apparently wanting to have a break from work, Mersault isn't actually hard to communicate anymore but just stubborn and a blockhead while being a trainer to greenhorns, Hong Lu now realizes that people aren't rich like him, Don realizes what being a Fixer finally is and gets depressed, Heathcliff just wants to make ends meet and make a living while not having to handle anger management issues, Ishmael has a somewhat okay relationship with Heathcliff in the Shi Association, Sinclair is essentially a police patrol in Zwei and apparently friends with Don.
Oh lord, I'm not going to enjoy raising fixer Don into tier three when I get her ID 😅
I think one of the "happiest" identities I've see of Don is her Cique Association identity. Every other one, she just looks lost and dead inside and it lowkey hurts to see that.
So you put Rodya in A tier for killing one person who arguably deserved it but you put faust in D tier completely ignoring the fact that she made a FLESH EATING BUS that runs on BRAIN JUICE AND MEAT. Faust is more sane than most but the person who made the limbussy can not be put lower than C the same place Rodya should be because murder is normal in the city and not really a big deal.
Faust simps aren't rational
Speak ur facts indeed, i cannot allow him to put my goat in A tier
@@justpurpledrodion is normal while still seeming like an interesting person too like wtf
@@iexist_nt so true
Like I said in a previous comment, I live in hope for Project Moon to give us an entire chapter of just Ishmael angrily shouting out (mostly incorrect) whale facts. I also find it funny how the character who looks the most like a Disney princess is ironically the most "bland" person on the bus (excluding Mr. Salt).
I just want a scene in her chapter were she gets wasted, starts crying because she misses Queequeg and then loudly starts singing sea shanties.
Ishmael, before the drink: "While this is a public bar, we should avoid standing out yet again. Maybe we will finish a mission without any of us embarrasing themself"
Ishmael, literly a single glass of beer later: "SOON MAY THE WELLERMAN COME! TO BRING US SUGAR AND TEA AND RUM!...."
@@plinfan6541
I would love to see how they adapt Ishmael's cannibal "husband". Although, knowing Project Moon, and the fact that Ishmael's backstory implies that she (and possibly Ahab) is the only survivor of the voyage, the gag might take a turn for the depressing. Which is why, if Project Moon ever decides to do it, we should milk that moment for every bit of meme potential from it while we can.
@@0riginal_zer030 Of course it would be depressing, but it could still be a cute moment of characterisation.
Hong lu isnt bland, what are you talking about
@@alexanderartaza2173
Yknow what, you have a point
I do indeed cannot tell who is the more Disney princess like person between Ishmael and Hong Lu
Idk how eng translation is made, but like 40% of Yi Sang popping into the conversation out of nowhere(ie, talking too much) is part of Korean-joke; his name sounds exactly the same to the word that is often used in conversation, so every time we use the word 이상 he thinks they are calling him
But yeah he is more talkative than I expected him to, quite a surprise
Tsunul- infinite tier: try's to justify his reasons to simp to a girl that: speaks in the third person, made a bus that eats still living people and uses their pain and suffering as fuel, can communicate with a person that has a clock for a head. and this is why we need a Tsunul identity for every sinner except Faust :)
Tsunul identity Don would weird be the biggest self hating edgelord or more depressend looking than Yi Sang
I mean if Pierre’s right, it adds to the flavor.
The Ishmael part aged so poorly in Canto 5 HELP
Ishmael is more normal in this bus, more than Faust, but more sister-like
Faust is leader-like sanity
As an Outis simp. I can guarantee you that she will groom Dante to think like her instead of betrayal. Because Dante is such a pushover, it won't take him long to actually start acting like a scheming mastermind
Rodion - Murders one person - "I'm gonna put her on A-, because murder might not be uncommon in the city, but I can't call it exactly normal either."
Mersault - Joins a genocidal organization - B tier
It's because of the intent, Rodion wanted to feel special. Meursault just wanted some money, and I mean who wouldn't turn agent 47 for some cheddar?
@@TsunulI mean, you also put a f**king narcissist who's probably still a virgin because she was studying her whole life into D. And the development process of the engine of Mephistopheles also probably didn't go without a few "experiments" of testing out if it could properly extract enkephalin out of living people.
So i guess she's still innocent even tho she made this abomination of a machine part while working for a shady company, secrets of which she isn't going to share with us very soon, huh. Goddam simp...
Also, I don't think that Rodion did what she did purely out of wanting to be special, or as Dostoyevsky said "To prove that she(he) isn't a shivering beast, but a person of power." (Translation may be different, and my memory is a bit hazy about C&P, but that's how I remember this particular phrase) Unlike the original Rodion, she seemed to really have the want to help other people. Hell, her E.G.O is basically her guilt tripping about the fact that what she has done led to the death of all of these people, so she clearly regrets it.
@@Tsunul I mean, when your community is being oppressed by the IRS, who can blame you for taking up an axe and a cause?
"Wanted to feel special" is more Rodion's self-actualization. She can't justify her actions, she can only explain them. By making herself the "one in the wrong," it ironically makes it easier to bear all the pain she caused. She regrets nothing but knows it was a bad move, people do dumb things when consumed by anger, and she believes she can't be forgiven just yet. If she thought her actions were just, the Rodion we see today would be no different from Kromer.
By contrast Mersault willingly signing up with N Corp without even believing or contesting their philosophies, simply going through the motions, strikes me as *significantly* more unhinged. Going by his novel, he's the kind of man who could shoot someone dead five times over with his only thoughts being "the sun is bright."
@@Tsunul bruh how is dante normal,
i don't think a normal person would chop off their own head and replace it with a clock
@@Tsunul my man really forgets the fact that all of the crew are feeding people to magical school bus
Don having her own tier is just so perfect! I'm really curious for her chapter, I'll bet it's more screwed up than Sinclair's.
it's a coin flip as to which one is more messed up: don or hong lu
With Murder on the WARP Express... YEAH. **DEFINITELY.**
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yep…
Ah yes, the most reasonable person on the man eating bus fueled by the lives of human roadkill. The very person who made that bus.
Faust is a B-Tier.
Because she's not as so much the precious waifu, smarter beyond her peers, but just that she's hired these absolute god damn GORILLAS as well someone who just wants to vroom vroom and the next RED.
Hell, even she gave up by around Chapter 2
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I will admit, I can't accept this Ishmael slander. >:(
Like c'mon man have you seen her teth ego?
that smile man
Those f*@king shoes are too powerful.
Anyone who gets an E.G.O. with them immediately has their simps validated.
@@ParadoxAAA I would know. I'm one of those.
@@ParadoxAAA I am morbidly curious about what would happen if Mrsalt would put them on.
@@TO-gq1rk I bet the moment he wears those shoes he finally gets to think about something
And it's just the DVD logo hitting all sides
I have a sense Hong Lu isn't that sane man. I love me the tall femboy as much as anyone whose sexuality is within the homosexual spectrum, but like.
The man praises the colors of people blowing up when he kills them and wonders how that feels. Rich boy upbringing doesn't put you in the Ryoshu school of murder appreciation.
Mersault is in a weird -D tier. He is too sane to be sane. And too insane to be insane (still saner than Don tho).
And I'm sorry Faust simps but like, the woman speaks in third person all the time. That's at least C tier insane.
Like, I am at least 70% sure Hong Lu's personality is just a mask he has kept on so long he forgot it was fabrication. He mentions that his relatives are kinda backstabby and I fear he is downplaying it.
I am calling it now that Hong Lu is the heir of his family because every ambitious sibling he had is already dead by politics and everyone is fine with a seeming idiot on the throne since its a chance for them to grab more power. No doubt that Hong Lu is safer now in Limbus than he was back in his home estates
Well, now we know that it's not really a third person
This needs a remake
Don on top: We gucci
Meursault perfectly centred: We gucci
Gregor not on bottom: Bro we got a problem
Makes sense considering don is the only man who is genuinely insane and crazy in his respective novel
ok, ok... are we ABSOLUTELY surge tsunul doesn't have a piece of vergilius's soul within him or something? i'm telling, i think i'm seeing a pattern with the don hating here (lol)
So THAT's where Vergilius soul went after the Meatball Christmas
Yeahh after Canto 5 and 6 came out bro is gonna have to redo these rankings
you should do another one once all of the sinner's chapters are revealed, i feel that alot of these are gonna be shuffled around kinda
Ok, will see that in 2026-2027
Obsessed with how poorly Ishmael’s aged.
Mr. Salt actually likes spicy food at the end of Chapter 3 we see him drench his kebob in sauce.
Are we sure he just did broke the bottle with his strength
@@misssalty320 he haven't problem with strength or control.
@@greyfaceofaxe Lemme use sauce bottle with armored gauntlets
Rodion didn’t kill the guy to feel special. She killed the head of the irs because no one could afford the taxes but then the rest of the irs came for her community as punishment
It’s heavily implied by Sonya that Rodya CLAIMS she killed because of taxes, but actually did it mainly to feel special. Rodion does not deny this.
Several Months Later
Ishmael has become the Equivalent of Low Tier God
The don quioxite prediction goeeesss crazyyy
If this man gets his hands on fate he is gonna roast the entire human history
>if Yi Sang wrote Jack the Ripper-like letters
Oh you have no idea.
nah fam sinclair is definitely less sane than heathcliff. mans just has violent tendencies, funky child legit sees static and switches on murder mode
this obviously was done before you saw him in the hell's chicken event
Ishy is the straight man cause Dante is too much of a wimp to stand up for themself against the crazier sinners. Faust fans shouldn't legally be allowed to have opinions smh
376 pages of Ismael book.
And while another character is:
Yi Sang - 50 pages (who cares)
Mersault 126 (who cares)
Rodion - 672 (I read it)
Outis - like 1500 (?)
Hong Lu - 2500+ pages (Who would read that?)
Orlando Furioso - 870 pages
Okay I read Crime and punishment just because I am a Russian person, and our school forced us to read it. And I like it, but there will be better Russian books and poems then that
Great, now its my "to do" list
Isn't the translation of Hong Lu's also like, impossibly cryptic to go through?
@@reverie02 No of course not. In my heart Crime and punishment is like 3rd or 2nd place from Russian literature. 1st place is comedy "Woe from wit" or "Горе от ума" as you like.
@@reverie02 Ah, I see. Sorry. Language issue. Still don't have enough experience to write and speak in English
I will stand behind Don Quixote till the day I die.
(Spoilers for all of LC and Library of Ruina)
She could have prevented 90% of L Corps failures if she was there, simply by beating the fuck out of Ayin till he got his shit together, calmed down, and finished the Seed of Light Project. No Angela trauma, because he would have gotten his act together and got out of his depressive spiral. Distortions wouldn't have occured, because the light would have shone for the full 7 days, which also means no Angelica death, and a happy papa Roland. He and Argalia still hate each other, but slightly less now.
Everyone gets a happy ending, all because a short queen would have been there to beat up a depressed simp.
Don: White Damage Punch!!!
Agreed
From what Carmen described, I can imagine the light in everyone's subconscious is E.G.O. Now imagine the whole city full of evil people with ALEPH E.G.O running amok.
@@pomp7117 sound as fun times.
You should very much know that is pretty much impossible.
The seed of light couldn't be finished without some form of suffering the entire point of the meltdowns was for the sefirot to find answers and meaning in their suffering including A.
Beating up A would have done nothing more than Roland's rampage did.
Add to that Angela and Roland were bound to suffer at some point Ruina goes over how the suffering they induced on the city would one day come to bite them as it did for all in the city's cycle.
Starting the video with bullying yi sang for his speech while ryoshu and don sit at the back waiting for their turns is crazy.
mmm. clearly this video was made before canto 5.
You don't mess with the Don, the Don messes with you.
i share my single brain cell with other don players, we are wery big brain. trust me
Man Meursault being a bad cook aged poorly.
Edit: Making some MUCH NEEDED changes as I've had some time to think about this. Yes, Hell's Chicken made me realize a few things. Also came up with much better summaries.
Yi Sang: A fucking weirdo.
Faust: Simultaneously the smartest and dumbest person on the bus, but she looks nice in a sweater at least.
Don Quixote: Is Don Quixote.
Ryoshu: Is definitely into CBT.
Mersault: Is actually a brick.
Hong Lu: Doesn't even know that people die when they're killed.
Heathcliff: Has no chill.
Ishmael: The normal one.
Rodion(my beloved): Team mom.
Sinclair: Had burned through all his coping mechanism day one.
Outis: Her favorite foods are boot leather and shoe polish.
Gregor: Funny bug man.
Mersault outside: 😐
Mersault inside: 😐
Sinclair burns through coping mechanisms like a minigun burns through bullets
Moby Dick is literally Ishmael's monologue so the length speaks words for that
At 4 Minutes- And Was half expecting the 'Honorable Mention Of Kromer sidling up to the Don Tier'.
Before ish' chapter drops, i have sth i noticed. She's not just reasonable, she also has the instinct to protect. In her IDs and ch4 she was first to jump in front of others with her shield up, scolding them for getting in danger or others for putting them in said danger. She does what she can to prevent mess and angers at wild cards that cause it.
Considering that book ishmael drove entire crew to death just because of the obsession- and blamed the target of said obsession for all of the disaster that unfolded, there might be something heavy that interjects her stable, composed behaviour.
It's a hopeless situatin where even witnessing how her own actions cause destruction, she pins the blame on a "monster" and that deepens her obsession [which led to said destruction] even more. A trauma that struck so deep, changed her life so much, that denial is one defensive mechanism preventing personallity from collapsing upon itself.
only real complaint in the placement are Fish and Faust, with Faust being A for making the train that eats souls and shits out your other selves to use as power-ups and Fish is easily S- for being the sole survivor in the suicide voyage.
seriously, who the fuck goes whaling in the oceans of pm-verse? especially when your city is ruled by corpos and their factories dumping who-knows-what shit in the goddamn waters, plus, distortions already being a thing. gay frogs would be the least of your worries.
also probably has too many cetology books if she's anything like the actual character.
would be S+ if later events revealed, in memory of her crew, she baptized her harpoon with someones or her own blood(for maximum metal) like Cap. Ahab asked the 3 pagans did with his. Still best waifu.
>said voyage summarized in song form btw, th-cam.com/video/J7u7Yoc0KMI/w-d-xo.html
Sinclair promo video. In the end he is like charge up and really ready to kill anybody in a way, with swearing some dirty words. But still C in my heart.
Rodion: Kill money lander to help poor people... And that about it. I will put her in B at least. Well she take care of Sinclair and everybody else. She trying to do that.
4:37 This man literally just stated all the reasons why I love that adorable little gremlin. Thank you, good sir.
4:42 You'll never take me alive copper!
One thing someone said in the comments of someone's video about ishmael that might bump her up by one tier:
Heathcliff's solution to a problem is to repeatedly hit it really really hard
Ishmael's solution is to find a hypothesis of the solution, attempt to solve the problem using said hypothesis, give up and repeatedly hit it really really hard
This video reminds me of that quote where Faust says something like “your undereducation does not make me overeducated.” To Heathcliff. And I am DYING to remember which episode it was from
LETS GOOO DON NUMBER 1 !!!!! DON FANS KEEP WINNIN AND STAY WINNIN
Did somebody forget Faust invented the bus that eats people?
I GUESS
the goldenglow music for hong lu is killing me lmao
you can tell this video was made before canto V 😂😂😂
I mean no shit
It's one year ago
Mersault and Yi Sang are me whenever i'm at school. No words, only quiet, possibly you couldn't even realize i would be there, until you talk to me. Probably that's the reason why they treat me like i'm special or smt like that. Anyway, good video
Can we talk about his music selection for each section SLAPS
I don't suppose you know what the one playing at 12:01 is
honestly, there are two sinners who i wouldn't mind just listening to talk endlessly, hong lu (liu association) and yi sang, yi sang can talk all he wants, i'm not gonna complain
14:30 the implication isn't that she will betray us, no. The implication is that she really REALLY wants promotions and is sucking up to Dante cuz he is the boss and she wants advance!ments.
good music choice, i approve
edit: ahhahahaha operation blade as outis theme and lingering echoes lobby as gregors, very very good choice
making a very limbus decision trying to drink chocolate milk while watching this video
they might not find my body
Entering this fandom late and finding this video after knowing of canto 6 hits different... painfully different.
a sensible tier placement for such a sensible sinner as Ouitis
I don't see Gregor as a dr Jekyll and mr Hide like character, his arm is like that because it's the government's fault
good lord this video aged badly
I mean, I disagree. *_Don's a bloodfiend for crying out loud._* One that's lived a very long time, might I add.
The amount of lines done to write this video was probably in the triple digits, and boy does it show.
Bro almost had a Don predict calling her a demon
guilty gear and ff14 music in a limbus company video? unbelievably based
I swear to everything that is unholy in the world of Project Moon that if Don is not in a tier of her own…
I haven’t laughed this hard in a good year. Wonderful video 👏👏👏
Bugman gregor bugman gregor
Male Wife *GREGUS*
Gotta love how chapter 5 isn’t even out yet and the Ishmael section is simultaneously accurate and aged like milk. Can’t wait for whale facts
nobody can catch me!, I'll simp for Don, F O R E V E R!
Bro the ost you choose is immaculate
Plot twist, don is a vampire dommy mommy
How I can't wait for another one of these insanity tier list of the Limbussy cast when all the cantos are done
i think Gregor is the most sane person out of them all, aside from the PTSD.
6:38
After Canto 3, when the team goes to get kebabs together, Meursault DRENCHES his in sauce
As a hong lu enjoyer i fully agree with you,he is such an innocent sweetheart
It’s funny looking back on this knowing that Tsunul now considers Ishmael one of his top five fave sinners
Good content.
I feel like Rodion is more of a c+ tier or at least b-. She has regret and learned from it (right?). A playful rogue but doesn't shit talk people. Presented as selfish but i believe she also cares for others (will it grow as time goes on?). One of the better characters so far.
My other take is that these 3 share the same spectrum\tier: Yi Sang, Meursault, Faust. It's hard to say anything in details. First two don't even talk that much. It's curious to see their stories for sure. If you google Yi Sang, it actually brings you to the wiki page of a real korean writer\poet. As for Meursault, wiki again: Meursault is a commune in the Côte-d'Or department and region of Bourgogne-Franche-Comté in eastern France. And wine brand CHATEAU DE MEURSAULT, straight "drops of god" manga territory.
Hong Lu's Roseate Desire is the best ego animation (imo).
Meursault is the main character of The Stranger.
A guy who's so different from everybody that he doesn't care about what most people care about and he killed a man cause it was a hot day and the sun shone in his eyes.
About Rodion
Should we say that she was the one who was watching over Sinclair when he got anxious when N Corp was mentioned?
that guilty gear faust slander..... portal to hell NOW (this is a joke this is a /j moment if you will)
don is adorable so its fine, i cant stop laughing these jokes are insanely good btw, and you did well with giving Charon her own tier
screen cap this tier list, give it to someone and tell them to guess what this tier list was for
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Next what would we every sinner prison sentence if they existed in real life
Calling Heatcliff a Gorilla, and putting "Smell of the game" for him is just *214S 632146S*
The BGM choice for Faust’s part is absolutely perfect! Does anyone know the source ?
I lost it when Don gets her own tier 😂
not the Hong lu being alstofo in the thumbnail😱💀💀💀💀💀
Lost it at “bitch I got raid”
You have such a way with words, reminds me of itsrav
I have one minor correction: Yi Sang did canonically pull bitches per leviathan, and clapped Gubo from N corp's cheeks on the daily before he became a sinner