SMDV B120 and B240 HSS flashes vs Godox AD100 and AD200 for photography
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- Round flashes are cool. The new SMDV B120 HSS and SMDV B240 HSS TTL flashes have arrived. Here we compare them with the Godox AD100 pro and Godox AD200 flashes. If you are into photography, cameras, portrait and wedding photography, you may enjoy this video.
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you pronounced my name correct!! and wow what a disappointment. i have the same feeling as you when it come to look, build, sexyness with smdv. but to have the ad100 do so much better than both the B120 and the B240, well ill have to do the same, sell them on ebay and id rather get two more ad100pro. i will forward / share this video with smdv in hopes that they will lower the price for other buyers. thanks for the video markus!!!
Love this damn channel.
Yeah, it's uplifting. I always end up in better mood after a video of him 🙏
@_creative360 Yeah, Mark seems like a good soul 👍and I learn something every video.
The spectrometer is the best toy you have bought. It helps alot to see what our Godoxs' are doing.
This is really helpful thanks Markus
Thank you for all of the honest, unsponsored comparisons.
"For those who live in Europe". Markus, less than 20 countries use the imperial system, the rest of the world uses the best system: the metric system. 😊
Most of my overseas followers are UK and Europe, so I was addressing them.
Hello, this is SMDV. Many users have sent the link to this review to SMDV Official, so we have checked it out. First of all, thank you for introducing SMDV's lighting gear. From SMDV's perspective, it would have been even better if the review had included more detailed information, such as how evenly the light is emitted, the number of shots possible immediately after a full power recharge, the total number of flashes possible with one battery, and the advantages and disadvantages of the U-Shape lamp. However, it is still a great review because it highlights that SMDV not only produces softboxes like FLIP but also manufactures photography lighting, and that this is done in Korea. Thank you for your review. ;-)
I love the Flip 32 softbox and have made a number of videos about it
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A number of people have purchased them because of my videos.
The SMDV flashes are well made, high quality devices, but I travel the world and hike many miles to exotic locations where every bit of size and weight matters. The SMDV flashes are too big and heavy for me personally compared to the AD100's which are more powerful for doing portraits like I do. I do not need perfectly even light that illuminates a whole room- I need to just light up a portrait, that's all. Again, my reviews are only based on my own personal needs and I showed in the video how even the light pattern is and how good the light spectrum is, so I am not knocking them. They are just too big and heavy for me personally but they would be great for anyone in a studio situation or just carrying one or two a short walk from the car, but not for hiking many miles with all kinds of equipment. Keep up the good work and by the way, my main and favorite car is a car from Korea, a KIA Amante, and that's saying a lot coming from someone who has a Ferrari, Lamborghini and Jaguar!
@@MarkusPix We have seen your video and great review of the FLIP softbox. Thank you very much. We are a company in Korea that manufactures photographic equipment, improving products based on photographers' feedback to address inconveniences in the field. We are grateful for your support. Since you have given us feedback through your review, we will consider what we can do for photographers like you. We look forward to more of your excellent reviews and support your journey as a fan. By the way, the CEO of SMDV is also a photographer. ;-)
@@smdv_officialPlease read my review in this comment section. I have been using your units for a while and I am a big fan. I know you guys are pretty receptive to feedback for ways to improve your units.
The AD200 is tough to beat. I bought mine years ago and it still is my go to.
Great review, thank you Markus 👍👍👍
Glad you liked it!
.... and Godox for the win! Love my Godox. I have the AD200, AD600bm, two V1's and four SK400 II.
Hey Markus,
As a photographer using the SMDV system for more than one year (and probably one of the only SMDV flash owner in Canada), I would like to add some things that I can share. I got multiple SMDV units (B500, B120 and B240) so I can give you my full impression on them, it might help other users :
The good :
- Build quality, feels very solid
- Impressive power of the modeling light for such small units
- Centered modeling light. Give a better idea of the light pattern compared to the smaller bottom modeling lights on Godox and Profoto units
- Made in Korea > Made in China (this is a politics thing for me, ha)
- Same (impressive) battery for both B120 and B240
- Goes down to 1/256 power, in small units like these, I prefer to be able to go as low as possible instead of as high as possible for night shoots and stuff
- Battery is well placed on the unit and easy/quick to change
- Can be used with SMDV Flip softboxes without and adapter
- HSS available : By the way, you don't have to turn it on via the unit, you just press HSS on the transmitter and there you go. In fact, I don't even understand why there's a HSS button on the units. I'm not sure I understand why you said you tested the power in HSS mode on the units either.
- You can put units in no group. That's pretty unique for this system. Say you want to trigger one unit from the optical sensor or an external receiver, it can great as you won't adjust it with any of the 4 available groups.
The bad :
- The plastic "foot" thing that comes with it to be able to use it on a stand is not worth much. The turn/grip at the bottom that attaches to a babypin stand is a good idea on paper, but doesn't work well in practice. It won't grip much as it's only friction based and plastic and will turn easily with the wind. The ratcheted lever is a good thing, but since everything is plastic... well, I don't trust it for the long run. I bought some Arca-compatible plates and screwed them at the bottom of the units and use metal Phottix umbrella brackets instead. Much more solid. That plastic bracket is the same as the one on the Flip softboxes and it's one of the reason I won't buy these softboxes.
- Power adjustments are made in thirds of a stop. I prefer to have tenth of a stop adjustments (as I am mainly a Elinchrom shooter)
- No TTL : this is a head scratcher to me. TTL function is possible on the transmitter and it works with the B500 that I have, but they didn't implement the function in the B120/B240. I am baffled at why, since these have a very good form factor for run and gun types of shoots like weddings and events where TTL is an important tool to have. Maybe it could be added via a firmware update.
- There doesn't seem to be a way to turn on or off modeling lights in only one group from the remote. It's like you turn them all on or all off. You can turn only one on directly from the unit, but if it's out of reach, it's bothersome. Maybe I just haven't figured it out.
The ugly
- The one thing that really makes me cry about this system is the wireless transmitter/protocol used to trigger the unit. Maybe I would have to play with the channels or something but everything I tried didn't give me good results at all. The number of misfires I get from these things is frustrating. Very... frustrating. I tend not to use the integrated wireless systems nowadays since I have gone back to PocketWizards/Fusion TLC Raven as they operate on the much less crowded 433Mhz frequencies instead of the crowded 2.4Ghz bands... but these can't remotely adjust anything. I often shoot with flash a bit far from me and I very often get one or more flash not triggering at all if I use the integrated wireless system. So, hopefully, some firmware updates for the transmitter can fix this or the Fusion TLC Raven might become compatible one day, but I'm not counting on it.
I still like these things a lot, but I am a very critical person, so I give my very honest opinion after having worked with these on location for a while.
Forgot to add, out of the top of my head :
The good :
- Very impressive battery life. SMDV claims more than 900 full power flash pops one one charge on B120 and more than 500 if I remember correctly on B240.
- Spare batteries are good and not very expensive
- Useful magnetic accessories for B120/240
- US distributor gives good customer service and answers promptly
The bad :
- No "action mode" available on the units. This is not a big deal to me since they are IGBT-based units and you can get pretty fast flash durations at the lower power settings. I put it in the bad section as most competitors have this mode.
Note : english is not my main language so please excuse me if some sentences are a bit incoherent. I'm trying my best 😅
Thank you for the info. A system with an unreliable triggering system is very limiting, IMO.
@@hiepvophan It is, but to be frank, I feel like most integrated systems are not very reliable compared to PocketWizards. I would really like to have flash units with integrated PW triggering. That would be something.
Thanks for this comparison. As much as I want to never be a Godox fanboy, I have to say they are really steps ahead of the competition. What they may lack in build quality, they make up with features, versatility, speed, and bang for the buck. With the design of those two flashes, it is kinda clear to see that SMDV is completely focused on making lights just to fit their Flip ecosystem and adding actually compelling features is an afterthought. Maybe there are higher quality electronics in these, who knows? If they're gonna make lights that boring, instead of trying to one-up Godox, just make them cheaper. I might have liked a ~100 watt flat "pancake" version of their flash.
So great to see the follow up especially for the results on the AD100 as I just bought two on Amazon Prime Day for $239.00 each and the XPro II controller. I look forward to trying them out in conjunction with 2 Godox V850 IIs. Thanks for the great videos and helpful tips to improve our photo skillsets.
You probably won't be using your 850s any more 😄
Love the combo SMD flipboxes with AD100, small is also less storage at home. On a side note, I asked Inkee how they put their Gold Crow on the SMD FB and got a 3D SLT file to print an adapter for that. In case your interested I will be happy to send it.
I just stuck the Inkee in there and it held pretty good as long as the softbox is tilting downwards a bit. But yeah SMDV or Inkee should make an adapter
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I bought a Godox 100 and love it!
Need 2 more to max out my trigger you like so much.
Always hated the flash on camera, a red eye monster...
Appreciate what you do!
Your channel is so informative. Godox is my go to for flash. Thanks
Seems the Godox has a much tighter beam spread. I wonder how the SMDV B120 compares with the AD100 using the softbox as far as light output. Perhaps they might be a lot closer. Still love the size and lightweight of the AD100.
I noticed the same thing. The SMDV flashes may have as much or more power than the Godox units, but they just spread it out more evenly, which I like. Shame they don't have a zoom option, though.
When using the flip 32 softbox, the AD100 was 28mm 8.03, 85mm 8.02 and the SMDV 120 was only 5.67. And guess what- the SMDV flash also has a hot spot in the flip softbox sorry SMDV.
@@MarkusPix - Wow! Thanks for the extra test and info! I should know better than to question you
markusrothkranz.com/SMDV_flip_32_hotspots_compared.jpg
In photography lighting, U-shaped lamps and straight tube lamps each have their own unique advantages and disadvantages. These two lamp types are suitable for different uses and shooting styles.
U-Shaped Lamp
Advantages:
1. Even Light Distribution: The U-shaped design spreads light more broadly and evenly, providing natural and soft lighting across the entire subject.
2. Versatile Use: Commonly used in softboxes, beauty dishes, and ring lights, it is suitable for portrait photography, product photography, and other applications where soft lighting is desired.
3. Efficient Heat Management: U-shaped lamps can efficiently disperse heat, maintaining stable performance during extended use.
Disadvantages:
1. Size and Weight: U-shaped lamps are generally larger and heavier, making them less portable and more cumbersome to move.
2. Cost: These lamps are often more expensive, and replacement costs can be high.
Straight Tube Lamp
Advantages:
1. Portability and Easy Installation: Straight tube lamps are small and lightweight, making them easy to transport and set up. They are suitable for equipment like speedlights, making them ideal for on-location shoots or quick setups.
2. Focused Lighting: Straight tube lamps provide concentrated light, which is useful for highlighting specific areas or creating strong shadows. This is beneficial for achieving dramatic effects.
3. Cost-Effective: Generally, straight tube lamps are cheaper than U-shaped lamps, with lower replacement costs.
Disadvantages:
1. Light Distribution: Straight tube lamps have more focused light, making it difficult to evenly illuminate the entire subject and can create harsher shadows.
2. Heat Issues: Prolonged use can lead to significant heat buildup, potentially requiring additional heat management solutions.
Summary
• U-shaped lamps offer soft and even lighting, making them ideal for studio photography. However, they are bulkier, heavier, and more expensive.
• Straight tube lamps are highly portable and easy to install, providing focused lighting suitable for on-location shoots. They are cost-effective but can have uneven light distribution and heat issues.
Choosing the right lamp depends on your specific needs and shooting style.
Thanks a lot for your great videos and thanks to Clara too!
Test drive Neweer Z1, Z2, Q3, Q4 Pro, G Pro Trigger, S101 400. Surprise good godox quality for half the price
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My favourite setup ad200 +
beloved AD100pro
I am not interested in the giveaway but went to the giveaway site to just say *hi* to both of you - well that won't work, so *hi* and thnaks for the work you put into doing these videos for us.
Give this one a go, may not be the best but could do ok for stuff I try lol. Always fun and informative from Markus.
Thanks for the experiment!
How about comparing the brightness when the same softbox is used for two lights?
The two lights seem to have different luminous areas. SMDV has a larger light emitting area than Godox, so the brightness seems to be relatively lower.
Flip 32 softbox hotspot comparison markusrothkranz.com/SMDV_flip_32_hotspots_compared.jpg
brightness output comparison using Flip 32 softbox
AD100 28mm 8.06, 85mm 8.02
SMDV 120 5.67
SMDV 240 11.2
Just started my flash journey using the Yongnuo which is only manual but I think learning manual is good before going TTl. Great info buddy.
I never use TTL. Manual all the way for me
Love the review but I'm a bit confused as to why you were using hi speed sync to do the comparison. Seems it would be better just to fire the flashes at full power with no HSS and then compare the results.
I did and the results were similar. I used HSS hre because that's what almost everyone out there has been brainwashed to use so I gave them what they are used to and will probably use.
@@MarkusPix Thanks for the reply. Frankly, I'm as amazed as you were at the results.
@@MarkusPix I have never even used the HSS mode on my V1 pro. I mostly use it in manual or TTL, manual mostly. HSS mode always made me think that it would not be able to make the pictures without banding.
For a FAIR comparison, all flashes should use the exact same reflector or softbox - ignoring whatever comes in the box. That would eliminate most of the difference in the area lit by the different flashes. The way you present the meter readings, It looks as if the SMDV engineers were incompetent or stupid. It's just a wider beam of light from those flashes which would be great for close applications. For travel use, I'd prefer a tighter beam of light or the ability to zoom with a fresnel lens. Especially in HSS scenarios you can use every bit of light.
By the way, SMDV might be a smaller brand but it's without doubt high quality stuff. I have been using SMDV light formers for years. They are a lot more expensive than the ones from Godox, but the fabric and the mechanical stuff feels sturdier in comparison. You also get spare parts from SMDV - good luck with Godox. :D
Having said that, I also have several Godox softboxes and AD200s which I like a lot.
Different bulb designs also interact differently in a hard reflector or a softbox. I have done these tests myself and I can assure you to normalize the spread is not easy. Even the indirect softbox comparison by Rob Hall can’t fully normalize the light spread.
Good info, as always. Q: Do the old style speedlight strobes still have relevancy? Is there any area where they are preferred?
They're ok but the AD100 is twice as bright and produces a softer light
Hello first I want to say thank you for all of your information that you have given us over Time regarding Lighting. What I would like from you if you would please do a tutorial on the flashpoint 600 pro II or the godox 600 pro II . Especially regarding the high-speed sink / or freezing Mode scenario that they have for this light I am completely lost when you enter the realm of the 512 set up that they have and then the freeze mode that they have in the system unfortunately I have not seen any videos whatsoever at all regarding this or explaining how it actually works. There are a few other issues inside the menu that's a little elusive as well can you go over each one of those especially the odd ones you have your normal settings that are self-explanatory and then there's a couple settings in there that are confusing and I'm not sure exactly what there for. Once again thank you and I hope to see some information on this light in the future
Love this - Markus can you do a video on compact video lights for portable documentary makers who want to travel light (interviews style docs)
I've done dozens of those on this channel. In fact I have a whole Lights and Lighting playlist of them
with videos like this th-cam.com/video/NVYCnqFiqdA/w-d-xo.html
@@MarkusPix thanks I’ll check it out cheers
Thanks for the video 👌
was at 28mm .... if you zoomed your lens , wouldnt it tell your flash to zoom too or is that why you used manual settings..
Very interesting review, thank you Markus. If you are so inclined, I would appreciate a review of the NEEWER Q300 and Q4.
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Thanks for sharing.
Good Video thanks for the info, do you ever compare the Ad 100 Pro Vs Profoto A2??
Good Godox.
Maybe the Geekoto GT250 or NLX280 next. They are about the only thing left for compact strobe. The good thing is that you can use your Godox trigger with them. Or there is a review on the Elinchrom One showing it’s being more powerful than the AD200 bare bulb using the same 7” reflector.
Yes I tried those. No bueno for me. It tried to be an AD200 but didn't come close. Frustrating to use, the flash trigger didn't work and it wasn't any smaller or lighter.
@@MarkusPixyou have tried them all! Then like you said, Godox truly made some efficient lights. The findings are different from what others reported. And your results so far aligned with mine.
Hey Markus! From my experience, the AD100 doesn't fully fill the Flip32. If you lower your camera's aperture to around F21 and shoot your softbox front diffuser, you'll notice a hotspot. Thus, the effective area (and softness) is less than 32 inches.
Personally, I have to add the AK-R13 or AK-R11 diffusers to fill the Flip32 with the AD100, but this consumes a lot of power. Most of the time, I have to step down to the Flip28 or Flip24.
I understand that the B120 and B240 waste a lot of power on built-in diffusion (like the Godox H200R, which I like because it provides excellent artistic light with proper modeling light, unlike the AD100. Great for snoots, gobos, etc). However, perhaps these SMDV strobes can at least fill the Flip32 properly? I won't buy them myself because I'm happy with the AD100 and AD200 and I don't want to have a different trigger system.
By the way, there is also a special SMDV adapter for the AD200 bare bulb, and I hope it will help me fill my Flip32 properly without wasting power on diffusion. But it hasn't arrived yet, so I can't recommend it yet.
What you're describing is a classic example of overthinking. You make it sound like there is this super bright spot in the middle of the softbox and very little light around the outside. Yes it is a little brighter in the middle but there is also quite a bit of light all around. When using the flip 32 softbox, the AD100 was 28mm 8.03, 85mm 8.02 and the SMDV 120 was only 5.67. And guess what- the SMDV flash also has a hot spot in the flip softbox sorry SMDV. I don't go by theoretics, I go by results, and the AD100 with the flip 32 gives me the softest light I have ever had th-cam.com/video/yxwJRoD2u1U/w-d-xo.html
and th-cam.com/video/2Vg-WYMlqWk/w-d-xo.html
@@MarkusPix Thank you for the additional information, sir!
markusrothkranz.com/SMDV_flip_32_hotspots_compared.jpg
I would use those indoors anyway so I probably would have no issues :).
Correct. The difference only becomes apparent if having to carry them around outdoors a lot.
Hi Markus, if possible, could you please do a video review of the new Godox ML100Bi? I love its compact size & the support for V-mount batteries. I hate proprietary batteries because they will hold very little charge after 1 year. Thank you very much.
Hi Markus! Have you measured f-numbers while using above flashes inside same quick-folding SMDV softbox? Bare-heads' f-numbers sound amazing but light patterns of those heads not always look nice. Like AD200 fresnel head produces bright but very ugly light pattern :( So you made a choice of Godox for their light-condesing solutions but can you please check how do these units compare when used with quick-folding SMDV softbox?
Thank you for a great video!
AD100 28mm 8.06, 85mm 8.02 ..... and the SMDV 120...drum roll.... 5.67. And guess what- the SMDV flash also has a hot spot in the flip softbox sorry SMDV
markusrothkranz.com/SMDV_flip_32_hotspots_compared.jpg
Have you tried the new round head attachment for the AD200? I have been trying to decide on a off camera flash, and the features of the AD 200 seem very nice along with its very small size. Does the AED 100 have any advantages over the AD200 if you strap the body of the AD200 to the light stand and put the head on the top of the light stand? I would love to see your opinion on the new round head for it also.
The AD200 round head is actually dimmer than an AD100 ! I returned mine
There have been a few reviews of both products, but this is the first one I've seen where the SMDV has less light output than the godox. I know it probably doesn't matter, but I'm curious to see if other methods of measuring light output would yield different results.
"Reviewers" that give glowing reviews are often given gear to review by the companies that make the gear
Thank you for good information. The B120 and 240 look like U-shaped lamps, and the AD100 and 200 are straight lamps, so they talk about the power of light in a straight line, but I think it is wrong to compare U-shaped lamps and straight lamp products. Since the pros and cons of these two types of products are clear, I think it would be more accurate to compare the B240 and ad300pro, which are both bulb-type lamps. Can you compare them?
B240 has a flat front, recessed bulb design. AD300 has a protruded bulb, so much bigger spread. It would be just hard to normalize.
It'll be interesting to compare this SMDV 240 with Godox's ad200 round head
The AD200 round head is actually quite a bit weaker than the AD100! I was shocked. Everyone thinks they are the same but they are not.
@@MarkusPix Wow, that's interesting! Thanks for testing it!
Sad, these light manufacturers cheapening the light output of their products. All my lights GODOX AD200s and V1 are amazing to use and gives max POWER.
Hi Marckus. The stop readings are at 100 ISO? Just curious to reproduce this. You basically start from the top reading and work than down?
yes 100 @ 1/60 at 6ft
Markus, ever try the SMDV "Bansa" flash fill reflector? Takes seconds to assemble over the larger semi-circular ones that takes 15-20 minutes to setup, and the same to tear down. Might get rid of one lower fill flash too.
That thing is way to cumbersome for location hiking. Here is a video on alternatives th-cam.com/video/Qv5uznN68aY/w-d-xo.html
@@MarkusPix Thanks Markus for your feedback.
I ordered one to replace the bigger one that takes a half hour to put together, but was shocked at how heavy it is! Much more than the SMDV Flip 32 G box which I also ordered too based on your recommendation and love that soft box. Now I want a second one , maybe a Flip 28 G size for fill.
The Bansa legs and height extension tubes and its ball head are the heaviest parts of the unit. I might look for some sort of carbon fiber replacements. It does a really nice wrap and even the snap-on gold fabric does a bit of highlighting to the undersides of hair and chin but not too much. Least it sets up fast!
I have decided that the Godox AD100pro will be my first light I will purchase, the alternative was a Godox V1, this will be the second then. (Or the other way around?..or something else?? Men I can't decide, I value my money so much lately and it makes me think way too much) - thanks if anyone just gives me a short 'get this: , you're welcome ' lmao
Just get the 100, its twice as bright as the V1
If I could heart-react a comment, I would. Thank you so much!
Hola Markus, I have the Neewer Q3 (200W). It works very well, and it is an affordable alternative for those strobes.
I wonder if you could do a Markus evaluation on the Q3 and where it stands against the AD200
Its not as bright as the 200 and it doesn't have the bare bulb which is what I use with the 200 exclusively. The fresnel is not flattering for portraits
@@MarkusPix Thanks for your input!
Talking about the HSS power loss, I'd love to see a video comparing output of a strobe with HSS vs no HSS w/ ND filter. Is the power loss from HSS more than what you have to increase the light to get through the ND filter? No one ever talks about that when comparing the two. Like, if you lose 3 stops by using HSS, isn't that the same as having to overcome a 3 stop ND filter? Or is it worse than that?
That's not the point. HSS overworks and overheats the flash, cuts your battery power down dramatically, more misfires, and also causes horizontal lines in electronic shutter cameras like A7C etc Most people want to shoot at low F-stops like 1.4 or 1.8 and since non-HSS only goes up to 1/250, you need NDs on bright sunny days th-cam.com/video/Cx9Jemua3J4/w-d-xo.html
how many flashes from the bigger battery ?
I dont understand something. Sometime ago I saw you explainning a viewer who commented that the best setting for AD100 was 28mm, now you state 85mm is even stronger. Could you elaborate on that Markus? For a softbox in a studio whats the best setting?
Best regards from Portugal!
85 concentrates the beam more into a smaller stronger spot so its brighter. 28 is wider so better for softbox
Maybe they have cooling system? And they can do 300 1/1 flash? )))
2 meters in europe !! 2 meters in the world except Liberia, Myanmar, and the United States
AD 200 pro II: th-cam.com/video/z0xm96mHVA4/w-d-xo.html
ehhhh.... what does it read if you move the lights so that the spot size is the same? It's not distance only unless you have a bare bulb with no reflector at all, and none of them are being compared that way. If the spot size isn't the same size, then they will never read the same power. You even see that with the AD100. Zoomed all the way in, it reads with more power, but the lit area I smaller. I could have a 400ws light, but if I'm lighting up a spot that is more than 4 times the area, it will look like it has less power than the AD100. If I move the light (or zoom it for the AD100) so that the spot size is the same area, that's when you'll see how efficient or in-efficient a light is.
I know you're trying to quantify how it will perform with how you use it, but the reality is how much area you're lighting up plays a factor into it.
Nobody will realistically put the light 18 inches from someones face to get the same spot size. The light will always be just out of sight of the cameras edge, which is 4-6 feet. That's the real world. But yes I hear you. I personally do not need to light up a whole room, just the top two thirds of a person.
Exactly that; the spread on the SMDV120 shown in the video is at least twice as much the spread of AD100 at its widest setting. And to say that zooming AD100 all in gets 1 stop brighter is again ignoring the change in light size and quality. Markus knows that very well, but omits it because his average viewer is not smart/willing enough to understand it, and the videos would get too tech and his people would probably grow bored. Markus is entertaining and fun for the average Joe shooting their kids or the cat, but when you come to serious work you should look somewhere else for proper education.
@@MarkusPix It was just an observation. You can normalize the spread by putting each in the same simple modifier like a basic soft box. That won't completely normalize it, but it should significantly level things so that the front diffuser is the light source, and as long as it's position stays the same between lights you'd be dramatically closer to having the same lit area. then it's just down to how much light is getting lost inside the soft box as opposed to being directed to the front diffuser.
@@AdrianBaconif you really want to compare two lights, why go halfway to get it close enough? Typically Robert Hall would use an indirect softbox to normalize two lights. That would equalize the lights, and most of the time you will find the outputs are proportional with the Ws specs (only Broncolor is about half a stop more efficient).
@@ritrattoaziendaleTruthfully, besides Rob Hall, I have not come across any good light output comparison (maybe that John Gress Elinchrom vs. Profoto). Normalizing the spread is not easy without the right modifiers.
Markus, I'm on Ebay to see how much to buy the AD 100. Do I have to find specifically for Canon? Or will they work across the board? Thank you.
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They work with all brands but you need the appropriate brand specific Godox flash trigger. I would not trust ebay because the early AD100s had a green color and people are selling them to get the newer ones which are color corrected. Just get a new one. They are currently reduced from 299 to 239
@@MarkusPix Ok, glad I saw your video. Thank you buddy, I'm always grateful for your knowledge on this stuff. Say hi to Cara for me.
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Hi Markus, could you investigate StellaPro CLx10 and Reflex Studio-Hybrid light. I think you will be quite suprised!
He did.
I started showing those 4 years ago th-cam.com/video/WFW9Ej9Ukhk/w-d-xo.html
and th-cam.com/video/3uHVqj1OpfY/w-d-xo.html
and I got even more powerful than the CLx10 with the Studio Pro th-cam.com/video/k3jlWb87i54/w-d-xo.html
All of which I will be giving away because they all have unacceptable fan noise
Thanks Marcus!
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Hej Markus, please check out the Theory of Holistic Perspective and comment in one of your channels. Interesting to hear your thoughts as a philosopher.
Not sure what you're referring to, but holistic perspective is not a theory, it is the way I see life.
@@MarkusPix The Theory of Holistic Perspective is indeed a conceptual framework that integrates various philosophical, psychological, and practical insights to help individuals understand and interact with reality more holistically. While it may not be widely recognized within mainstream scientific circles, it draws upon well-established concepts from multiple disciplines, including systems thinking, mindfulness practices, and cognitive psychology.
Lol nice copy-paste MC 😄 You must be new and haven't read my books.
Welcome and check out all the holistic perspective videos on my health channel "The Healthy Life" www.youtube.com/@MarkusRothkranz
Stick with the godox!! :) why not just return them for a refund instead of giving away if you only had them 4 hours?
Where's the fun in that? 😄
Hello sir
Godox AD100pro is $350 in EU 🥲
You can buy used for 200€ at worst; I recently bought one for 160€
Thanks for confirming what I'm too lazy to test out ... 🦘