You’re nice for giving them another chance but don’t force yourself to like something you don’t! There’s a big reason why so many armys don’t listen to kpop and just listen to BTS.
@@tribeloui2023 cus BTS does is different genre, they a shouldn't be under kpop category, also their lyrics, production, performance all are studied well.. there is psychology books written abt their albums and songs 💜
@@tribeloui2023 they are the perfect storm of 7 guys who are talented, hard working, love music, make the music themselves, have a message, amazing personalities, immense love for each other and armys, fought for their place as artists with a small company led by someone who nurtured their talent and let them grow...perfect storm that in this lifetime we will never see again imo
My dude you are definitely fair (for giving them another chance) and honest (which just makes it even better). Ngl though, what a relief to be done with this. 😅
@@tribeloui2023I checked your channel to see if you uploaded and when I saw it was a blackpink video, I tapped out and almost changed my opinion about this channel but I'm glad you're back on track. You can't tell me you love great music and then react to Blackpink? That's disingenuous and just for cheap clicks from their fans. Thank God the pain is over after this video. Cheers ✌️
I agree with you in terms of the lyrics, i remember seeing a clip where an interviewer asked them their inspiration behind their lyrics and they couldn't answer and admitted that they don't write most of their lyrics. i also agree with what you said about girls potentially striving to be them. their message is intended to be about female empowerment but half of their lyrics are about how they're hotter and better than other women. it doesn't help that some of their fandom is misogynistic, especially towards other artists with female dominant demographics
I also kind just went shrug it's meant to be female empowerment, and probably mostly for teen girls who want the confidence boost of singing along BUT they are so sexual that it really rubs me the wrong way, if it is for teens. because if so that's children... like the song Ice Cream really tipped the scales for me
@@lilyduck4538 first of all, their lyrics aren't female empowerment at all, kind of the opposite. They just talk about how pretty and rich they're and how they're better than anyone else Second, I Don't agree with their music being for teenagers, they're still musicians even if they're not really artists. Music are for everyone to listen to. I hate how western media like to paint Eastern especially Korean music as children music
@Nada Madani I understand and agree, as an army (and being in my thirties) I am also tired of the association. Unfortunately, BP specifically says that they are targeting that market and also I really can't see why anyone else would be a fan... not that teen girls have bad taste but simply because they are more vulnerable and feel like they need that manufactured confidence
that's why I left that fandom. We waited for so long. We were fine as long as the girls kept us updated on how they're doing and how they're making their music or just something you know. But when they reappeared they sing that line , like wth , it's like a mockery to us . We were streaming and rewatching their shows from the past three years but what were they doing, they were going on fashion shows . That's all they do . Even at the concert, we had to flew twelve hours to watch them , but we got the same old thing again, and Jennie and Rose seemed they were lost on the stage, sometimes even bored. I was officially out. We were defending them again and again but that was the call . My sister is a huge Kpop enthusiastic. She called me unfaithful. Damn it what is faith ? How are we supposed to support someone who don't give a f about their craft. I was out right then . And my sister followed later. That was a wild experience being a Kpop fan .
When you talked about "materialistic" lyrics I thought about how much you would love the song "Spine Breaker" because they call out a lot of issues with money and then how you should also check "Go Go" where they tell people it is ok to just let it go and enjoy (but it is a little sad song even though general positive vibe)
As a girl... Honestly? There is nothing empowering about singing about money and how you are the boss and you look so good all the time. I would like to see them writing their own music, instead of singing what men tell them to sing, noe THAT would be truly empowering. Just saying.
You scratching your head while the video was playing TOOK ME OUT LMAOOO that was me back in the days when I tried to listen to their songs. As you said, maybe is the visuals and the "baddie" image what makes them appealing to other people. I think the fact they don't write their own songs or collaborate with the craft of their albums is a downside factor to it. Props to you for keeping it real and honest!
I felt genuine second hand embarrassment when I watched them perform pink venom on the (vmas?) Bc the song is about being badass but it’s so… toothless
Keeping it real. Love it. Isn't ratata a pokemon? LOLL. First time listening to shutdown, and that was probably the best of the 3 in this video. Also, I'd have to disagree with the girl empowerment. MEN write their songs. If anything, it's objectification.
Then you have a lot of pride and you don't need empowerment. Lyrics like the ones BP have doesn't work on proud people, for obvious reasons. That's why most fans are those young ones and wannabees. That is the original theme of girl crush. Girl crush music that speaks of life lessons and overcoming struggles are modification to cater female adults and the working class.
Totally. How can someone rely to this? And.. its only them talking about how “great” they are or have become and they dont even have big awards or recognition… their company did them dirty selling them as THE BEST before they even sold themselves
They've been in the music scene for what 6-7 years and their music has been the same since. They are all pretty ngl. Their music is catchy ngl. But bunch of catchy lyrics put together that talk a lot but don't speak a whole lot gets old pretty fast. This kinda music doesn't stick with you for long. You can't relate to it. Its good for shaking ass in a club but thats just it. Not listening to it while going through my daily life man.
Not to forget, in 10 year's they might be not pretty enough anymore to live up to the beauty standards and all they have are the deep profound lyrics hit me with the ddu ddu du.
@@CTKApoBangpo exactly! What do you have left when that pretty face fades away with age? No substance! Will you be able to perform these songs 10years down the line when you're 30 somethings?? Would anyone even want you to??
Lmaooo you’re like the first person that is actually this honest. Im glad this is over 😭 you honestly will never find a group that is as good as them (bts). Nobody is at their level in lyricism
I hope that Blinks will finally take this in the spirit in which it was intended now that a man has said it. Because if you're a woman telling them this they immediately accuse you of jealousy and misogyny instead of a legitimate critique. This is a part of why the group hasn't grown artistically. Their fans will just tell you "You just hate them because they're women and they're rich and prettier than you", hence proving the extent to which they've absorbed the group's message. I'm not saying that these women don't get actual undeserved hate, but everything does not fall under that category.
absolutely agree with what you're saying and they'll probably tell men that they hate women and men shouldn't be speaking over women like they're not allowed to have an opinion on women's music lol.
Don't they have little control over writing the music? How much control does YG even give them as artist. Yes, I am a Blink. Yes, I am an Army member. I get the issues with their stagnant music and lack of growth. What I have trouble understanding is the clear disdain in some regards. Also, I do believe, had they been given freedom like BTS, they would have produced creatively diverse music throughout their career. The best part about time is the growth and experience.
@@CammieB520 But hasn't YG always given freedom to their artist in this matter??? BigBang, 2NE1, IKON, Winner, and their older groups, all had their fair share of contribution in their work. Wasn't YG said as a place for giving freedom which SME would not give to their idols. Why is it that they gave no freedom to only BP?? Everytime you fans keep saying that they have no freedom then how are they allowed to go for brand deals they want but not what music they want to create?? Won't they make much more money if they could make better music??
Loads of respect for you for being honest and not chasing views over music you don’t connect to. I feel the same way about bp tbh you’re not wrong bestie
I appreciate your honesty and agree! I wish the girls all the best but you pinpoint exactly what bothers me about their music- the brand of empowerment they're selling is not just materialistic, but directly serves capitalist values. It doesn't empower girls to love themselves more as they are or to aspire to more beyond looking hot and spending a lot of money. Which is fine to aspire towards, but not as an end goal to life. There needs to be more soul substance. I'll shake ass to some of their songs if it comes on at a party ig but it's not something I feel like listening to beyond that. BTS music gives me something to reflect on and allows me to think about myself and the world from a new perspective; or makes me feel understood, in some corners of my existence that have rarely even felt seen, let alone accepted.
I think my thing with them is that they gave them this concept of "bad girls" "girl crush" from which they did not detach themselves and you can't see a growth or that the girls are completely connected with what they sing (I still don't really understand the lyrics of 'pink venom'), like a fun song when you just feel yourself is cool but when it's so repetitive it doesn't make me connect much with them. They're catchy tho
i get youuu the same message in the lyrics is what gets old. i'm kinda fine with the similar sound, although also tired of the same structure, but the message is what irritates me the most i get having several songs addressing haters when it feels natural, bc when your following grows, so does the number of haters and all i get having a flex song and some flexing lines here and there in songs with other messages... but EVERY single?.. i've never seen an artist so stuck on the same old shit they've been doing for 7 years
@@sfiaedri1910 I see where you're coming from but I don't know if bts in 2013/2014 are comparable to bp because even back then the boys had creative freedom, and their songs were very personal and meaningful- their music was related to what they were going through at the time. The way they portrayed the concept might have been a bit exaggerated (thinking of the early no more dream outfits lol), but it's not like bts was making music they didn't identify with, you know?
@@aanushasharma9150 ad I 1063938 % agree with your opinion, you are right and you said just facts!!! This is why I was introduced to kpop thanks to kdramas in 2016 and I didn't like it at all and how "fake" everything looked but again in 2017 I found bts and here I am today stanning one group and no other artist can make me feel what they do!! Bts gave us their story and how they went from that bad boy image to life problems like we do normally but bp are stuck there!! They still in the era of fake bad girls their music can make me like them if I was 13/14 but at this age we need genuine music!!
Once asked a classmate why they like bp and they just said it's because they're cool and hip and that their music is catchy that's it. I think the fact that they can't speak korean but can sing along with bp songs because of the onomatopoeic and repetitive lyrics adds to why they like bp's song... I always feel so left out with my classmate cause they always play bp cause it's hip but once somebody plays a bts song you're cringe 😢
U perfectly told the reason. Their repetitive lyrics make ppl feel like they r following the song. Whereas BTS song lyrics u need to look fr translations understand it..they make u think the first time u understand the lyrics then u watch some explanation video n think ' oh yeah this could b this way too' n then again some random day u figure out what it actually means to u
I’ve seen people say how hard some of their raps are to learn and tbh I, a non listener non fan of the group, could memorize those raps. And it’s exactly like you said, their lyrics are very repetitive and it seems like their prioritize good sounding syllables to actual cohesive lyrics because then people who don’t speak the language can learn it easier. I think it also speaks to this article I had to read for a class I took where they talked about how gg’s are marketed to fans as if they can be a part of the group by doing things like learning the dances and lyrics. Which to me could explain why gg dances and lyrics seem to be a lot easier to repeat
Lol there's this youtube reactor who apparently is a kpop fan and she posted a video reacting to bts for the first time and basically everytime they repeated some lyrics or sang something easy in english she was like "wow that's so cool and awesome!" and got hyped up while completely ignoring the deep lyrics that were showing in her screen, and all she cared about was their beautiful faces, the visuals and the parts where she could sing along and learn right from the spot lol 😂 I was mesmerised with how dumb (with all the respect, I can't call it otherwise) these people tastes are Her name was jeanet henning or something
I really enjoyed this reaction. BP isn’t for me either but what I loved was your honesty and actually going into why they’re not your thing. It’s great hearing your perspective and not just a yes or no.
this is exactly why im army for life. i actually really like kpop as a whole and listen to a lot of groups, but there very very few groups who have real substance in their lyrics imo. and of them bts are my absolute favourite by FAR. its why i dont like when people say its weird to only like kpop groups who write their own stuff. like damn like who you like, i like kpop groups who dont make their own music too. but there will always be a higher amount of respect for people who try their best to honestly convey their own stories and messages
You are living proof that you can try something, dislike it and be decent while talking about it. TBH I often wait for people who first discover BTS to react to BP just to see how genuine they can be with their opinions about lyrics and music. You are a gem Loui. Not only you took the time (3 videos!) to really give them a chance but you have valid arguments for your opinion. Personally, I do not like BP, I feel like they started well but did nothing to grow as musicians through the years - the songs sound similar to each other and there is a little to them when it comes to lyrics. They are not representing the k-pop stage well in my opinion so I was happy to see you checking MAMAMOO who are solid artists. I would give a go to LaSerrafim and New Jeans as well - they are quite new girl groups but they released good music so far. Oh, and out of boys groups I feel like you would enjoy TXT who are boy group - a little bit like younger brothers to BTS. Their albums were very good so far and they have very strong dance and live performances.
I am an ARMY but i was first introduce to Kpop by Blackpink.... i fell for Lisa and then i knew BTS and i just stick with them because i relate with a lot of their songs they made me cry, think about my behavior, think about how much i love me, reflect about how i was living my life and then making me want to be a better side of myself, thats what this group of young men is for me,and i mean learning live experiences from them its just so wonderful I am 37 years old and im learnin from them a lot ....so I respect your Blackpink reaction it was nice but it seems you want to feel and relate totally get you....... Im sorry if my english is not the best .........greetings from Mexico!!!!
This was exactly my experience. BP made me give BTS a try and I just got stuck. Nothing else has made me feel or think the things I have while listening to them. Everything else is just paler in comparison.
You are right in your summary of this group bruh. Like girls who listen to this might think BP is the ultimate perfection. The lyrics are all about putting other women down to make themselves feel good and ion vibe with that. It don't feel like empowerment... its more like giving you self image issues.
BTS and kpop groups are world's apart. When you listen to BTS you can feel their sincerity and 'them' in their music. It is because they come from very humble backgrounds and worked their arse up. Every music that comes from them is their own - they write their lyrics, their stories, and create their beats. They have a 'say' in their work. They had to struggle to get where they're now and their only cheat code was talent & hard work. Unlike these other groups that come from bigger influential companies who sing someone else lyrics in someone else's song. Not an ounce of artistry in them. When I got into BTS first, I thought all kpop was same but was so underwhelmed. Not even 1% of sincerity or artistry in their work. I'm proud to be an ARMY for BTS only. They're my life's artist and I'm forever grateful towards them. They were the first artist I got into and I am sure is my last and forever.
Try Mamamoo, they have really similar path to BTS (from poor company to build their label more famose and "Mamamoo company" basically). Hwasa, for example, fight against toxic beauty standards (like "if I am not suitable I will be my one standard"), also in their music topics like self love, being just yourself, take it easy sometimes and other stuff. Also their live performances are CRAZY. Literally live strong vocals all the time and stage presence is crazy (also I like how they engage with audience (when they change lyrics for example for different famous celebrities in audience or specific place, for example).
@@goldenhime8404 Hi, I am familiar with Mamamoo. Unfortunanetely, no fault of theirs ofcourse, the only song from them that I liked was Starry Night. I'm sure they're wonderful but I don't feel any connection to them. Also, it's not just coming from humble backgrounds you know, it's also BTS's music, personality and just them as people that connects me to them. I have been an army for over 7 years now, and before finding BTS I am what now we all call 'a GP'. I had no interest in musicians and didn't even get the fan culture. So imagine my surprise having BTS in my life. They're my life's artist and I honestly don't have any interest to find another musician. They're enough for me. BTS are it.
@@goldenhime8404 Dude I definitely like all the ladies of MMM. They are definitely people to look upto (except few past mistakes). But yeah, unfortunately a lot of their songs are not up my ally. I do like few of their songs like Starry Night, Egoistic, Maria, Twit, Gogobebe, Yes I AM and few others. I really love how they have such great stage presence.
You’ve just learned about 95% of k-pop from watching Blackpink. I have absolutely no hate towards the artists in Blackpink. They're clearly talented and beautiful and they work hard. It more an industry-wide problem to focus on visuals, beats/beat drops, and choreography and sort of forget about the melodies, lyrics, and messaging. BTS were nurtured as ARTISTS and the differences between them and most other k-pop artists get wider and wider as they mature as full-grown musicians given that early nurturing. Not all k-pop is like this, but most of it is. There are some other groups that write/produce their own stuff. I personally dont like most of it (I like a song here or there). Most ARMYs give k-pop a chance and most end up sticking with BTS.
You hit the nail on the head. If you are into music for the art, BTS is (for me personally) the only option in "k-pop". If you want it for the show, the eye candy and the entertainment, yeah, other groups will deliver it all. But the artistry of BTS is dramatically unmatched. No offence, but it’s just the truth.
Ty for your honesty. I found K-pop through BP but once I discovered BTS they became my ult group. Butter and Dynamite got me noticing them but Daechwita and the Cyphers got me down that rabbit hole. 💜
This was my first time hearing 2/3 of these songs, and... that was an experience. And while I like a couple of their older songs, I haven't vibed with them for a long time, and hearing those 2 new songs kind of cemented it. I do agree the beats and drops can be a draw, but it also just seems like a cacophony of sounds at times without enough of a voice of who they are and what's actually important to them as artists. As far as, "maybe it's because I'm not a girl..." no. That's the problem - these are lyrics written by a 40+ year old man for young women.
Not some of these comments recommending you another kpop group AGAIN 😭 yall really out here recommending a HIPHOP fan a group whos not even writing their own lyrics, or theres no substance at all 😭 saying theyre good dancers or what bruh ..for the love of God not everyone who gets into bts need to check every kpop group there is.. bye its embarassing. bts just built diff bc they actually HAVE substance. theyve got stories to tell in each one of their songs. u can also see it in their MVs. no matter how flashy their outfits are, the visuals, or choreography, their lyrics mostly stood out. Save Me mv didnt even have all that visuals and its just a one shot mv, but the lyric substance is there.
Kpopies are always like this if we comment on other groups related content they say "Armys are toxic not everything is about BTS blah blah" they think if someone like bts they would like to other groups too
Its so funny cos lemme tell you something whenever a new reactor starts to react on BTS kpoppies get in their comment section and keep suggesting their own group saying things like "Oh you liked xyz song of Bts then i am sure you will like xyz group" like they do this everytime...i mean i like the fact that you keeping it real and not forcing yourself to like something you genuinely dont enjoy ...anyways REACT TO INDIGO BY RM ....THATS A MASTERPEICE😭
this is exactly how I felt when I tried to get into bp. I was like "well they're the most popular female kpop group so they must be very good right" but I just couldn't relate. I agree with what you said about their lyrics that's exactly what drives me away from them. It's like I know they're talented we can see that, but why are their lyrics so meaningless, there's never any clear story throughout their music videos either. I love a good concept, like I need some art please. It also helps me enjoy an artist when they actually have writing/producing credits on their songs, but bp rarely ever do. They're supposedly a voice for 'women empowerment' but it feels like I can't actually know what their true voice and perception of things are.
YO THIS VIDEO HAD ME DYING CTFU FRFR🤣💀🤣💀🤣💀💀🤣💀💯 I was lmao so hard that I had to watch it again cause I couldn’t believe the sheer GENUINE AUTHENTIC REALISM in your thoughts and reaction. I literally had to watch this reaction again just to see you give the realism. It was amazing having a reaction where HYPE was not taken in at all. For a group that has been around for 7 years but only been really active for 2-3 years combined total due to long hiatuses. I’m glad you were able to see through the shell/facade of the HYPE. I have been a new sub of yours for a few days now but and I’m glad that I’m not regretting my decision to subscribe at all. This reaction solidified it for me. Standing ovation 👏🏾 🙌🏾👏🏾🙌🏾👏🏾🙌🏾👏🏾🙌🏾👏🏾🙌🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Blackpink is how kpop sounds like in generally. Catchy n trendy melody, especially from YG (blackpink company) is really good with created an unique instrument sounds. Their type of music suited for nightclub or just having fun without care with the lyrics because most of kpop music has shallow n cheesy lyrics. Is not suited with people who care with the beauty of the lyrics n have deep meaningful meaning. Is really few of kpop group have a deep n meaningful lyric that can stir ur emotion or make u contemplation beside have a good sounds with good production.
My problem with BlackPink is that you can see the claws of their company and corporation behind every single thing they do. Their songs are all about 'female empowerment' but how much input in the words they're saying have they even had? Honestly Pink Venom and Shut Down feel like how much cultural appropriation can you put into a song to profit from... They have '1 by 1 even 2 by 2' from Rihanna, 'you couldn't get a dollar out of me' by 50 cent, the flow in one part is literally a carbon copy of a Cardi B verse, Shut Down has a lot of UK Grime elements, there's more but these are just the ones coming to my mind. And again, being inspired and adapting music you like into your own artistic expression with homage is totally fine! BTS does this constantly, they are so rooted in American Hip Hop but they have taken it and transformed it into something which is their own, done their research and truly embodied it. BlackPink get handed a song that someone copy pasted other better artists work into and repeat it along with random noises. I want to be super clear that I'm not shitting on the girls themselves, I do think that they have talent and potential but it's like their entire artistic license has been squeezed dry from them by the company while they go on about how 'confident' and how much 'better' they are. I can't imagine that behind the scenes they are actually fulfilled and inspired or have high self worth honestly. As a woman I don't see them and think 'wow what confident, inspiring women' I see them and feel disgusted at the way the patriarchy and capitalism has taken advantage of them. It's honestly unsettling for me. But I can imagine that to impressionable young girls who are feeling like they're not enough, they would think this is peak confidence and jump right on board to try to be like them. But as you said, that's so harmful! It's not reality!!! You'll never be the prettiest or the best at anything no matter who you are but you are so beautiful and special because you're just you and that's more than enough. I would hope that the BlackPink members themselves would one day be able to do some soul searching of their own and really find out who they are and what they personally love, because I see absolutely none of that here. The only alternative theory to them being dragged along and controlled into this narrative honestly is that behind the scenes they're actually awful people with giant ego complexes who think they're better than everyone but I don't know them so want to give them the benefit of the doubt. Anyway, moving on lol!
One thing I realized when I got into kpop. It's that it is definitely hard to focus on other kpop groups when your introduction to kpop is Bts. Like, those guys set the standards too high. There's definitely a song out there from a kpop artist that you would like. I have a few. But let's just say the only group I followed is Bts.
11:38 BIG FACTS. That’s one of many factors that play into why blackpink is not great to me. If you’re not rich, skinny, beautiful and all of the things they are then the songs are just going to show you how much better they are than you. I don’t want to be reminded of how much uglier or fatter or poorer I am compared to them, I want to be told that no matter how I look I’m beautiful. And to my knowledge that is not something they’ve ever sang about
There are gg which have sang that for you :) "I respect you whatever you say" "They only see what they want to believe" "There's only one you in this world"
@@thatkpopsis I mean…I’m sure they don’t mean it like that but yeah. I can’t imagine if I had heard this as a middle schooler thinking that I had to be as skinny and rich to be considered great.
This really resonates with me. I've heard a couple blackpink songs that I've enjoyed, but i 'enjoyed' them the same way I enjoy other k-pop songs: as a purely auditory listening experience. A sort of "Oh, this is fun to listen to :)" sort of vibe. But when I think of music I love? I cherish? That I think about, come back to again and again? It's never been Blackpink. They've never inspired any genuine emotion in me. RM once said something along the lines of, when he makes music, his goal isn't necessarily to write a song you fall in love with completely immediately. He wants to write music that you come back to. That you read the lyrics for once and interpret it one way, just to listen to it again later and interpret it differently. That's the kind of relationship I like with music, and that's the only type of music that could inspire any sort of fantacism in me. That's why the only artist I've ever genuinely ~stanned~ is BTS. They have that, as well as genuinely enjoyable music in spades.
Yeah I'm surprised you're giving them another chance! We'll see how it goes ... I respect the fact that you're being real about what music you're wanting to try and stick with. Don't let others sway you - if you don't like it, then you don't like it. That's cool. But if you do, then awesome. Either way, it's all good. Anyways, I'm going to watch the reaction now and see what you think after a second listen.
Now that I've heard your thoughts - I totally respect it and get what you're saying. And in a lot of ways I agree with that you're saying. I still really love BLACKPINK's music, but I understand what you mean by wanting substance. Just stick to BTS for now.
There’s a reason people say BTS is the genre, we don’t really claim K-pop and honestly for a long time the establishment of K-pop didn’t claim BTS and worked against them soooooo we move on. Because BTS didn’t come up in one of the ‘big 3’ idol/k-pop producing labels, they were allowed to move a little differently and be more independent and produce music that is more honest, more political, more real, and more expressive. Not saying you shouldn’t give k-pop a chance! There are some talented folks in there, but you don’t want to be expecting a BTS around every corner (or frankly any corner…) bc you’ll just be disappointed! Enjoying watching you ARMY up! 😂
I literally saw your reaction to jhope and j Cole a view ours ago. And it's like 6.24 am here... I watched all of your reaction videos to BTS untill now. I have to go to work in about 2 hours (?), but I couldn't stop because it's the first reaction channel in a long time with honest reactions. I love how respectful and open you are to music and the artist's. Thank you for that 💜 Also I watch many reaction videos about our boys, because it feels like I have friends that watch the same content as me (I don't have any army friends 🥺 ) , so thank you again. I enjoyed every content. And I definitely have the notification bell on. Tribe Loui you nice keep going. Borahae 💜💃
I appreciate your honesty and being respectful. I think the male idea of empowerment is women becoming rich and blackpink embody that "male idea". It makes their lyrics sound more materialistic and more grounded in capitalism. It isn't a reflection of what empowerment is (because I can assure you that getting rich is one element of empowerment, not empowerment itself) so to me their image screams "if you're pretty and rich you're powerful" which really isn't the case out in the real world. Yeah their songs are nice to jam to once in a while, but if I'm looking for art I'll just look elsewhere.
I think its usually more commen for Army to like indiviual kpop songs instead of other groups, so it's not that unusual If you try another group to like a few songs but not really all of the group
it's a little crazy that most of their mvs look like they could be from the same album even though they've been around for a while! their singles kind of sound similar too. the most interesting part of their mvs for me so far was lisa talking about her thai roots and showing her culture in her solo song, so i did like that piece of storytelling, but it went straight back to their norm after that part lol. shut down is prob my fav of these minus the 'whip it whip it whip it whip it' part LoL. i can see why people like them - their songs are rhythmic earworms, but they lack the depth, growth & diversity i would want and look for from a top tier/fave artist
All their mvs looked similar to me too. Ik jisoo co-wrote 1-2 songs. But i didn't know lisa wrote lyrics too... I'm assuming she wrote since u said she talked about her roots and culture
as much as its really nice of you to give them another chance, i feel like if you dont like one blackpink song ur probably not gonna like most of their discography since each one of their releases have almost exactly the same formula and lyrics💀 "they have talent tho" yeah for sure which is pretty sad bc i feel like all of their potential gets wasted by the company that forces this overused "bad bitches better than everyone" concept on them instead of letting them grow musically and develop their own artistic essences. i think it would be for the best if the group just disbanded and each girl were to go in her own direction, maybe that way they could as least have some artistic freedom and show their true colors
honestly even their solo stuff is just very controlled i mean just looking at "lalisa", which is even worse than the group stuff, i mean imagine having a self title single and album that's supposed to be about YOU but you haven't wrote a single line and all it says is "lalisa love me lalisa love me" over and over again. This could only work if they don't renew their contract and go to another company, or just make music independtly which probably ain't gonna happen since the girls have never even produced or wrote a full song by themselves and that takes a lot of practice to learn. U don't just suddenly become a songwriter after years of singing bullshit handed out to you every 2 years.
@@-amel-9896 oh yeah for sure, i was definitely thinking about it in terms of them singing into a different company bc there's no way they could ever release their full potential and actually thrive under yg. but sadly that's most likely not gonna happen and they will stick to the easier and more profitable way
I don't see any talents or potential for each individuals. Rappers can't write a verse or make bits or melody, singers have been singing in same tone and tonality since their debut. They just look cool and pretty managed by their label company. Leaving from one of the BIG 3 management labels in Korea, doubt it.
@@anais3913 i have to disagree there, i think rose's voice is absolutely beautiful and with a help of a good vocal coach she could do wonders with it, same with jennie who on top of that has an outstanding stage presence (people may argue with that but just look at her during their coachella performance, i think the whole "acting lazy" situation right now boils down to her just simply not enjoying blackpink stages that much anymore therefore she doesn't even bother to try, but when she DOES enjoy it .. man you just can't take your eyes off her) and lisa imo should just stick to dancing bc that's her biggest(ekhm only) strength. as for writing and producing skills .. yeah they might not have much experience with that but i don't see why they couldn't reach at least a decent level if they had some actually good producers and lyricists to work with who could help them and guide them along the way. i mean just look at bts, they started off with rap line producing and writing most stuff while the vocal line members were only contributing little bits here and there, but they didn't stop at that, they were continuously learning and developing their own skills and here we are now, all of them ready to actually work on their personal solo projects and jimin just dropped a fucking incredible album where he is not only credited as a lyricist producer and composer but also he played some instruments himself. no one is really born with any 'talent' or a specific set of skills but people learn if only they are given a chance and have actual passion for what they're doing
@@lavendermistone let's forget abt the kpop idea of rap look into the real world of rap, if u cnt write ur own lyrics if u can compute a full sentence u ain't a rapper, n speaking of stage presence dey have none did u watch d nonsense dey did at vma or even on James corden, dey need a lot of practice like a whole lot to actually be real artists dey need to start 4rm beginning n focus on music if dey ever wanna become real artists, as for raw talent d only person dt has any is rose she has an amazing voice n if cultivated she could be a good artists, jennie n Lisa need to continue modeling dey av no artists talents jisoo is an amazing actress so thats d only place she will do well. That is the plain truth
There's LITERALLY a saying we have that "bts IS the genre". I always shiver a little when they're called a kpop group, like I know they're Korean, but they are so much bigger than just "kpop" 🤷♀️ Anyways I've tried a few other groups too but they made me feel nothing. Music video and choreography wise, some are great. But as far as lyrics, depth, and meaning, it is mostly shallow. Bts isn't just making music to make money. They are making art that is full of purpose 💜
Thank you for being honest, music is not only to be catchy, you have to value it for what it is in its entirety, as a material product, or as a song that seeks to contribute something to society, transmit your feelings or thoughts, which is done for the love of art and music.
im not gonna lie Tribe, BLACKPINK was the group that got me into kpop and even tho they're one of my fav girl groups, THERE'S A REASON why i resonate with BTS ALOT more than i do with BLACKPINK even tho i discoverd BLACKPINK and became a kpop fan first. PERSONALLY, I like BP's music bc of how their songs SOUND.. Not bc of their lyrics lol.. As a matter of fact, when 12 year old me discovered them in 2019, their lyrics never bothered me because come on-💀 i was literally a curious 12 year old so i never really pay attention to lyrics BUT when i became an ARMY in 2021, ALL OF THAT CHANGED! BTS's deep and thoughtful lyricism is EVERYTHING I NEVER KNEW I NEEDED and it has helped me soooooo much in my life. 💜 Not only did i fall in love with pretty much their entire discography but those 7 men are so random, down to earth, smart, charitable, funny and FINE ASL! 😭like HOW COULD I NOT BE HOOKED?? Im SO GLAD i found BTS cuz they literally proved that you can have music that NOT ONLY SOUNDS GOOD IN UR EARS, but ALSO has SUBSTANCE and REAL EMOTION. As a fan of BP, i can say that substance is definitely something they lack most of the time but i don't hold that against them. It is what it is lol😂 their music is more like party songs to me but BTS's music is more passionate, inspiring, deep and ACTUAL HEAT. 🔥 They be cookin up in the studio fr fr!
Asides from your honesty (which I appreciate a lot) I also really like how you word your opinion on stuff. Like I definitely feel the same way you do about black pink and their music. There’s just no substance at all. Their producers/writers chose a specific formula and just copy paste it for every song. Even for the solo song, you could tell it was just another blackpink copy paste. It sounded Exactly like the others, which is actually insane. I personally cannot enjoy music not only so void of meaning, but of life itself. I don’t think these songs are even good as thoughtless party music, coz they’re just so damn flat. Repeat an annoying chorus over and over again, over a non-changing noise-like instrumental, with an added switch at the last, like, 20 seconds. That’s literally It. I mean, if you enjoy it, kudos to you! Keep doing you and enjoying what you enjoy. Im just being real. But for real, I appreciate you and your channel for always being true to yourself as well. Truly looking forward to more of your content, coz I can tell you’re actually mad genuine and have a deep love for music. Keep doing your thing!
Bruh i like you being genuine its nice refreshing tbh i am watching some other vids from you as well, its nice you have a curious nature, makes for good content
first of all, thank you for being real. i am sure you must have heard this a lot but it's a really rare quality in reactors to keep it real. sorry for the big rant on here, but watching this i had a lot of thoughts so lol just need to put it out i guess. i just have a lot of frustrations and i have been a fan for six years so lmao if anyone comes for me just know i have witnessed all this stuff and i know how this works. so don't come at me. no need to read thought its just me being angry lmaosjd i don't usually say this stuff so yeah... i listened to bts first from kpop, and seeing how good they are (especially after getting to know their roots in hip-hop) i went out looking for other artists in kpop because i thought that if not everyone, at least someone should be as good right? blackpink had just debuted like barely a year ago and even then they had a lot of hype around them, a lot of my friends told me to check them out when i asked for recs.... it was a very underwhelming experience to say the least, but i thought that as the years go by they will find their creative direction as a group and their music will evolve. it's been six years since then if i am not wrong, and there is absolutely no change. i had realised way before though that bts are an anomaly in kpop. this is why i hate it when the whole damn world keeps bts and them at the same pedestal. these girls are talented and actually can do better but.. they don't? their fans keep saying the reason they don't have any hand in their music is because of their company and i would have listened to it if they were a new group just starting by. but bro six years down your career, allegedly a group with the same power as some of the biggest in the industry and your money keeps the company afloat and you want me to believe you are still treated like that? take a stand i dont know? it's your career, i would have been so tired if i was told to just keep saying the same thing just with different synonyms in every song. and the thing is their whole concept is women empowerment or girlbossing, but we established it in 2000's itself how toxic that mindset is. this is what people call toxic feminism because what they are doing is harming others. it's rare to be as attractive as them, or be as rich, so as you said it just makes you feel more bad. but no they are kept at the same level as bts when there is no need to! bts are on an another league it's okay to accept that. what i hate more is the group and their company itself keep saying the same. their whole career is made on the "bts only women" concept, like i am tired bro. also this thing with treated kpop as a genre when it's an industry will never get fail to amuse me.. this is why if you are an army and you say you just like bts as a team, you are treated as someone who is snobby or has a superiority complex. i remember the amount of hate i got just for being an army. why do i need to like every damn group in existence out there? it's not my taste that's all. i might have a few songs saved but that's all really, i don't need people treating me like some weird person just because i openly said i don't vibe with others. people run around saying all this shit about armys being toxic, and the worst fandom when seriously all we do is listen to bts and support them. yes there are some bad eggs but which fandom doesn't? TT atleast we don't mobilize with 10's or 20's of other fandoms to target one group and push them down (exactly what they did lmao we weren't even big then). most people here are for music and it gets proved so fast when you see the online community and see how good armys are with helping each other with different associations and charity projects we start. witnessing the amazing art armys put out after being inspired by the boy's music, and all the lyrical discussions and breakdowns we have every release is so cool. the agustd concerts proved it too, because the crowd was insane, even in songs which got released barely a week ago we had everyone singing and having fun. this is how you celebrate music and love art. and the reason for this is that bts have always been focused on the core of their art and have been genuine. and the fans have been focused on protecting them since the very start. and bts persisted the worst hate and smear campaigns throughout their career, nothing is breaking them apart. they love their team, and they love music and are talented that's all TT. this escalated into entirely something else and ik no one is gonna read so loljs just had to put this out. thank you!
@@rawrjoon bts was my introduction to kpop and I you're right. They set the standards too high. I enjoy other kpop songs and I do like some other groups after the fact, but they're just not doing it like them...
Your whole reaction is just so real. "WHAT ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT?" LOL. It's just... not only do all their songs sound alike (noise) but they all talk about the same thing and there's no substance 😩
love your honesty. you’re a breath of fresh air. I’m a girl and I don’t feel any kind of empowerment listening to their songs. I’m sticking with you! Don’t worry about the haters.
I appreciate you keeping it real because millions (yes, millions) are NOT into BP, and you're one of them as am I. I just wish more people would tell the truth about it, because every song they've released is not a SOTY contender. In fact, they've never won that award. I enjoy your reactions so very much. You're authentic and funny as hell. I love how you're always laughing. Keep up the amazing BTS reactions! Borahae💜
This happens to many armies too when they try to listen to other kpop artists after listening to BTS. Coz BTS write their own lyrics n are involved in making process so it's their stories many times which seems more relatable. N with BP, no doubt they are talented but their involve ment in making of songs are very less, these lyrics are not even written by them.
Maybe just a suggestion, and you may or maynot be doing this, knowingly or not, .... but I degrees, what I wanted to say is that there are many many reasons why lots of BTS fans love them but do not listen to kpop in general. Because like you have come to realize BTS is definitely kpop to a certain extent, but they have also broken past that genre a long while ago. So my advice when checking some of these other artists is to remember to actively not compare them to BTS. Don't even try and relate them, it will probably help you get a better opinion of the artist you are currently checking out. Just a recommendation. Hope it helps!
Hmmm ngl that’s a pretty good point BTS did raise the standards of what I thought K-POP would be they stand in a tier of their own tbh Thank you for saying this I would be doing these future kpop artists I listen too a disservice tryna compare them to BTS 10/10 observation DragonsWratthxxx💜😁
@@tribeloui2023 true, yep, thats what I was thinking, I'm glad you seem to completely understand, and of course hope it will help. Oh and O wanted to tell you.... I know you don't have a bias in BTS yet but....... (don't worry jhope is lots of peoples bias, including mine from day one, and has never changed, but promise I won't tell anyone, 😉 😉) But in all seriousness, thats your decision, no pressure, thats all you!
But how does he not fall into that state of mind when some random kpoppies are like: "If you like this xyz BTS song then you will like this xyz group/artist" 🤷♀️ they are already setting their fav up for comparison.
I think 90% ppl comes to know about k-pop through bts (esp. after dynamite) & then they start exploring other groups as well. At least that's what I did. i looked into a lot of other korean artists but ended up becoming army. & Never regretted it. I saw a blink's hate twt on my fyp saying sh!t about bts & that armys are more interested in bp music... I replied we listened to it that's how we decided it wasn't our taste. & Asked them if they hated bts without even listening to them... There was no reply. I get a feeling a lot of ppl just hate BTS without even giving them a proper chance. I always think of suga's word "if u listen to bts w/o prejudice u will like it" ( i also think even if u don't like it there's nothing to hate. I mean how can anyone hate a message like Love yourself, equal sign, life goes on, not today etc) Although there a few songs i like from others such as. Hwasa's maria, john eun's hope, epik high eternal Sunshine.
I definitely found one of my favorite reaction channels with you!! I am glad I subscribed. (alongside JoseOchoaTV, xCeleste, WhatchaGot2Say and Michael Beveraggi) Seriously it is like clockwork, everytime a channel discovers BTS and genuinely enjoys their art, the channel gets spammed with random K-pop groups to react to next. Most of these channels comply because it gives them interactions and they say exactly what people want to hear and not give honest opinions. Seriously the amount of reaction channels I have seen faking their videos made me (and many ARMY) block them. The engagement you get from K-Pop fans seems huge at first and people try to ride that wave but they don't realize that those clicks aren't from a specific fandom, most of them are from K-Pop fans who will drop you as a channel as soon as you say "something wrong" or don't react "properly". BTS is not K-Pop. ARMY are not a K-pop fandom. Dont get me wrong I listen to some K-Pop acts or certain songs sometimes and I think its really cool if you find someone else from Korea like BTS you genuinely enjoy - but the focus here is GENUINELY! I am really glad I found you, you seem like a really nice and genuine guy. I will keep it real, I will probably watch your BTS videos the most, but I have watched some of your other content aswell and I enjoyed it. (My older sister was born in 1986 roughly when Chernobyl happened, so it had a pretty significant inpact on our family here in Europe. My mom was so scared for her (birth defects or later issues from radiation, as people weren't supposed to go outside much, play in sand, or eat mushrooms etc) also ngl you are me and I am you when I listened to Blackpink the first time. I cannot get into them for the life of me but they are shoved down everyones throats constantly and get called "the female BTS" like???!!! Their marketing is crazy.
I recommend JIM GAMES channel, he is one of the very rare true reactional clips posted and he got many hate comments from BP fans and he doesn't care at all.
I'm sorry that I say this, but suggesting Pink Venom as if they have gold lyrics are DOOMED 😭😭😭😭 No substances and only "LOOK I'M RICH I'M HIGHER THAN U" 😭😭
honestly if they hadn’t sampled Paganini in Shut Down i wouldn’t have listened to it as much as i did... i first got interested in kpop because of my love for dancing, so i do enjoy some of their songs that i can dance to, but tbh that’s about it. after years of them singing about the same things it got predictable and i don’t even vibe with those messages so yeah. there’s a lot of lines in their songs that particularly bother me (for a women “empowering” group they sure have a lot of lyrics that put other women down). and the fandom is just nasty, if i’m being honest, i’m happy they didn’t come for you (and tbh how could they when you’re so respectful 🥺). i always have fun watching you, for real. so thank you for sharing your reactions and honest opinions! can’t wait for you to watch some more run bts because i’m having so much fun just chilling with you watching them all the way from the beginning 😊
This is the first time I'm actually reading BP lyrics. How do people like them? I mean... why would I like an artist who keeps telling me to bow down and worship and I can never be them and just keep being jealous? Seriously? Wow... This seems like brainwash honestly.
Yeah... they have catchy tunes but... there is not a lot there. The problem is their catalogue is small, so having some songs were you just talk shit is cool but you have to have something of substance to back it up. I can't take them seriously. The few songs that are more relatable just arent that good either. Many BP fans blame their company on limiting what they release and keeping them from being 'artists'. I think that's why they get defensive.
I’m convinced people stan them for their looks. Like there’s nothing to catch on. Like what is even pink venom is about? I’m trying to understand the lyrics but idk what the hell they’re saying 😂 just some random words together.. not even trying to shade them
I have never understood how people go from BTS to Blackpink. The two couldn't be more different when it comes to music and their passion for artistry.
people do that? 😑
@@penpae1211 they move from bts cuz they feel other artists should get participation awards instead of having actual good artistry to win awards
@@Siireneyes that's charity tho😅
if you mean yt reactors, that is all for clicks and subs.
Ikr
If Tribe Loui doesn't dance and vibe to your "music", you're doing something wrong. 😭😭
You’re nice for giving them another chance but don’t force yourself to like something you don’t! There’s a big reason why so many armys don’t listen to kpop and just listen to BTS.
Lmao yeah ngl I’m not doing that again😭😭
It’s crazy how different BTS is
They’re leagues above the other K-pop artists
@@tribeloui2023I recommend checking how why armys don’t like Kpop by boracity magazine
@@tribeloui2023 cus BTS does is different genre, they a shouldn't be under kpop category, also their lyrics, production, performance all are studied well.. there is psychology books written abt their albums and songs 💜
I'm Army for a reason :) Although I can genuinely say that there are a lot of other korean artists who also have truly beautiful music.
@@tribeloui2023 they are the perfect storm of 7 guys who are talented, hard working, love music, make the music themselves, have a message, amazing personalities, immense love for each other and armys, fought for their place as artists with a small company led by someone who nurtured their talent and let them grow...perfect storm that in this lifetime we will never see again imo
"It only works if you look as good as them or else it's just harmful" yes, you hit it the nail right there. 😏
I agree, he nailed it
This is best way to describe bp music
Sexism😍😍😍
G DRAGON THE KING ,
@@Launibu damn, body shamed, face shamed and slut shamed all in one sentence
BTS stans truly a different breed
My dude you are definitely fair (for giving them another chance) and honest (which just makes it even better). Ngl though, what a relief to be done with this. 😅
yeah no more lmaooo
😭lmaoo “what a relief” made me giggle
This comment is everything I wanted to say! lol
😂😂..💀
@@tribeloui2023I checked your channel to see if you uploaded and when I saw it was a blackpink video, I tapped out and almost changed my opinion about this channel but I'm glad you're back on track.
You can't tell me you love great music and then react to Blackpink? That's disingenuous and just for cheap clicks from their fans.
Thank God the pain is over after this video. Cheers ✌️
G DRAGON KING -
I agree with you in terms of the lyrics, i remember seeing a clip where an interviewer asked them their inspiration behind their lyrics and they couldn't answer and admitted that they don't write most of their lyrics.
i also agree with what you said about girls potentially striving to be them. their message is intended to be about female empowerment but half of their lyrics are about how they're hotter and better than other women. it doesn't help that some of their fandom is misogynistic, especially towards other artists with female dominant demographics
They don't write all of their lyrics m*
I also kind just went shrug it's meant to be female empowerment, and probably mostly for teen girls who want the confidence boost of singing along BUT they are so sexual that it really rubs me the wrong way, if it is for teens. because if so that's children... like the song Ice Cream really tipped the scales for me
which isn't surprising given those ''empowering'' lyrics come all straight from the pen of a middle aged dude.
@@lilyduck4538 first of all, their lyrics aren't female empowerment at all, kind of the opposite. They just talk about how pretty and rich they're and how they're better than anyone else
Second, I Don't agree with their music being for teenagers, they're still musicians even if they're not really artists. Music are for everyone to listen to. I hate how western media like to paint Eastern especially Korean music as children music
@Nada Madani I understand and agree, as an army (and being in my thirties) I am also tired of the association. Unfortunately, BP specifically says that they are targeting that market and also I really can't see why anyone else would be a fan... not that teen girls have bad taste but simply because they are more vulnerable and feel like they need that manufactured confidence
this is my first time hearing the second song nd lmao it said 'its not a comeback since we never left' loll they left for 2 years lmao
Wasn't it more?😭
@@mono-mq2ph it was definitely more and yet theyre like "its not a comeback" like bro😂
😂 its so dumb. They were gone for so ling w barely an album under their belt.
Its like the songwriters and producers collected all the valid criticisms they get and write lyrics as clapbacks
that's why I left that fandom. We waited for so long. We were fine as long as the girls kept us updated on how they're doing and how they're making their music or just something you know. But when they reappeared they sing that line , like wth , it's like a mockery to us . We were streaming and rewatching their shows from the past three years but what were they doing, they were going on fashion shows . That's all they do . Even at the concert, we had to flew twelve hours to watch them , but we got the same old thing again, and Jennie and Rose seemed they were lost on the stage, sometimes even bored. I was officially out. We were defending them again and again but that was the call . My sister is a huge Kpop enthusiastic. She called me unfaithful. Damn it what is faith ? How are we supposed to support someone who don't give a f about their craft. I was out right then . And my sister followed later. That was a wild experience being a Kpop fan .
"I need some art to grasp onto. I NEED SUBSTANCE" You're so right about that 🤣 don't force yourself you're too nice to give them a chance lmao 💜
When you talked about "materialistic" lyrics I thought about how much you would love the song "Spine Breaker" because they call out a lot of issues with money and then how you should also check "Go Go" where they tell people it is ok to just let it go and enjoy (but it is a little sad song even though general positive vibe)
I LOVE SPINEBREAKER SO MUCH THIS NEEDS TO HAPPEN
Yes go dongeul breaker 🎶
I LOVE spine breaker
As a girl... Honestly? There is nothing empowering about singing about money and how you are the boss and you look so good all the time. I would like to see them writing their own music, instead of singing what men tell them to sing, noe THAT would be truly empowering. Just saying.
True.
🗣️ say it louder
Same 😂
And saying i'm not like the other girls it's giving pick me vibes
well they did have writing credits in "the girls" and I can say not much difference there
You scratching your head while the video was playing TOOK ME OUT LMAOOO that was me back in the days when I tried to listen to their songs. As you said, maybe is the visuals and the "baddie" image what makes them appealing to other people. I think the fact they don't write their own songs or collaborate with the craft of their albums is a downside factor to it. Props to you for keeping it real and honest!
Me too ..i was on the floor
The chances of me reading this comment at the exact moment he scratches his head and stands with his hands on his hip🤣🤣🤣😭😭
I felt genuine second hand embarrassment when I watched them perform pink venom on the (vmas?)
Bc the song is about being badass but it’s so… toothless
G DRAGON THE KING .
Keeping it real. Love it. Isn't ratata a pokemon? LOLL. First time listening to shutdown, and that was probably the best of the 3 in this video. Also, I'd have to disagree with the girl empowerment. MEN write their songs. If anything, it's objectification.
Lmaoo I think it is a Pokémon actually😭😭
And actually you bring up a good point
Can’t be women empowerment if it ain’t written by a women
Gahos cover of shutdown is 1000% better IMO
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@@himaririku9254 is this a pokemon ? 🤔
@FunnyLobster yes and the pokemon is a literal mouse
As a girl this for me is not empowerment, this feels like looking down on people.
I feel the same way. The beat sounds cool, but the lyrics make me feel poor😅
You are not the spokesperson for women, you are insecure. You rather listen to men who doesn’t respect women… ok 😂
I do too. I will never understand I guess because I’m not dressed in designers from head to toe. 😂
Then you have a lot of pride and you don't need empowerment. Lyrics like the ones BP have doesn't work on proud people, for obvious reasons. That's why most fans are those young ones and wannabees. That is the original theme of girl crush. Girl crush music that speaks of life lessons and overcoming struggles are modification to cater female adults and the working class.
Totally. How can someone rely to this? And.. its only them talking about how “great” they are or have become and they dont even have big awards or recognition… their company did them dirty selling them as THE BEST before they even sold themselves
It’s ok. You’ve basically seen all their MVs now anyway. 😂
You should just listen to Indigo straight through.
“You’ve basically seen all their MV’s now anyway” took me out
😂😂⚰️
Yess indigo!!
😅😅😅😅😅😅
Not the tea and shade in the first part 🫢🫣🤣😅 the length of their discography and the time they've been out is crazy.
Yaaaasss Indigo but the live performance at the rolling Hall
You a real one 😂
Thank you lmaoo 😭 hopefully I wasn’t too disrespects
@@tribeloui2023 You are not at all. Please stay real, we love your honesty.
They've been in the music scene for what 6-7 years and their music has been the same since. They are all pretty ngl. Their music is catchy ngl. But bunch of catchy lyrics put together that talk a lot but don't speak a whole lot gets old pretty fast. This kinda music doesn't stick with you for long. You can't relate to it. Its good for shaking ass in a club but thats just it. Not listening to it while going through my daily life man.
They not pretty
Not to forget, in 10 year's they might be not pretty enough anymore to live up to the beauty standards and all they have are the deep profound lyrics hit me with the ddu ddu du.
@@CTKApoBangpo exactly! What do you have left when that pretty face fades away with age? No substance! Will you be able to perform these songs 10years down the line when you're 30 somethings?? Would anyone even want you to??
Isn't it how mostly k-pop is? Mostly. The crazy beats, catchy tunes n all? Idk though.. I only heard bp n few other's trailers
@@cupcakenfetti it is
Finally, a TH-cam channel that actually gives their honest opinion of a song and isn't kissing Blackpink's ass every two seconds.
Lmaooo you’re like the first person that is actually this honest. Im glad this is over 😭 you honestly will never find a group that is as good as them (bts). Nobody is at their level in lyricism
Black pink’s lyricism TF lmao! 😂
@@lzn1006 she meant bangtan. Bangtan’s level of lyricism is hard to match up
Yeah the only "next bts" as they say, is the members themselves as soloists 🤣💜
I hope that Blinks will finally take this in the spirit in which it was intended now that a man has said it. Because if you're a woman telling them this they immediately accuse you of jealousy and misogyny instead of a legitimate critique. This is a part of why the group hasn't grown artistically. Their fans will just tell you "You just hate them because they're women and they're rich and prettier than you", hence proving the extent to which they've absorbed the group's message. I'm not saying that these women don't get actual undeserved hate, but everything does not fall under that category.
absolutely agree with what you're saying and they'll probably tell men that they hate women and men shouldn't be speaking over women like they're not allowed to have an opinion on women's music lol.
Don't they have little control over writing the music? How much control does YG even give them as artist. Yes, I am a Blink. Yes, I am an Army member. I get the issues with their stagnant music and lack of growth. What I have trouble understanding is the clear disdain in some regards. Also, I do believe, had they been given freedom like BTS, they would have produced creatively diverse music throughout their career. The best part about time is the growth and experience.
@@CammieB520 But hasn't YG always given freedom to their artist in this matter??? BigBang, 2NE1, IKON, Winner, and their older groups, all had their fair share of contribution in their work. Wasn't YG said as a place for giving freedom which SME would not give to their idols. Why is it that they gave no freedom to only BP?? Everytime you fans keep saying that they have no freedom then how are they allowed to go for brand deals they want but not what music they want to create?? Won't they make much more money if they could make better music??
Loads of respect for you for being honest and not chasing views over music you don’t connect to. I feel the same way about bp tbh you’re not wrong bestie
I appreciate your honesty and agree! I wish the girls all the best but you pinpoint exactly what bothers me about their music- the brand of empowerment they're selling is not just materialistic, but directly serves capitalist values. It doesn't empower girls to love themselves more as they are or to aspire to more beyond looking hot and spending a lot of money. Which is fine to aspire towards, but not as an end goal to life. There needs to be more soul substance.
I'll shake ass to some of their songs if it comes on at a party ig but it's not something I feel like listening to beyond that. BTS music gives me something to reflect on and allows me to think about myself and the world from a new perspective; or makes me feel understood, in some corners of my existence that have rarely even felt seen, let alone accepted.
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I feel you
I’ve spent so many nights listening to paradise and sobbing
You listen to men, you don’t have a say 😂😂😂
I feel the same. This is why BTS and Mamamoo are the only two I could listen to for years.
@@aellahnjung ? I listen to music
your sentence makes no sense (:
@@fleurdelastef men who profits off a fake beliefs and their delulu fans buy it
I think my thing with them is that they gave them this concept of "bad girls" "girl crush" from which they did not detach themselves and you can't see a growth or that the girls are completely connected with what they sing (I still don't really understand the lyrics of 'pink venom'), like a fun song when you just feel yourself is cool but when it's so repetitive it doesn't make me connect much with them.
They're catchy tho
Yes it's like what bts was in 2013/14 but they stayed in it forever cause it worked at the beginning....
i get youuu
the same message in the lyrics is what gets old. i'm kinda fine with the similar sound, although also tired of the same structure, but the message is what irritates me the most
i get having several songs addressing haters when it feels natural, bc when your following grows, so does the number of haters and all
i get having a flex song and some flexing lines here and there in songs with other messages... but EVERY single?..
i've never seen an artist so stuck on the same old shit they've been doing for 7 years
@@sfiaedri1910 I see where you're coming from but I don't know if bts in 2013/2014 are comparable to bp because even back then the boys had creative freedom, and their songs were very personal and meaningful- their music was related to what they were going through at the time. The way they portrayed the concept might have been a bit exaggerated (thinking of the early no more dream outfits lol), but it's not like bts was making music they didn't identify with, you know?
@@aanushasharma9150 ad I 1063938 % agree with your opinion, you are right and you said just facts!!! This is why I was introduced to kpop thanks to kdramas in 2016 and I didn't like it at all and how "fake" everything looked but again in 2017 I found bts and here I am today stanning one group and no other artist can make me feel what they do!! Bts gave us their story and how they went from that bad boy image to life problems like we do normally but bp are stuck there!! They still in the era of fake bad girls their music can make me like them if I was 13/14 but at this age we need genuine music!!
They never grew because there is nothing to grow with. I find them shallow and just too simpletons
Once asked a classmate why they like bp and they just said it's because they're cool and hip and that their music is catchy that's it. I think the fact that they can't speak korean but can sing along with bp songs because of the onomatopoeic and repetitive lyrics adds to why they like bp's song...
I always feel so left out with my classmate cause they always play bp cause it's hip but once somebody plays a bts song you're cringe 😢
U perfectly told the reason. Their repetitive lyrics make ppl feel like they r following the song. Whereas BTS song lyrics u need to look fr translations understand it..they make u think the first time u understand the lyrics then u watch some explanation video n think ' oh yeah this could b this way too' n then again some random day u figure out what it actually means to u
Their taste in music and then the audacity to call BTS's music cringe wow
I’ve seen people say how hard some of their raps are to learn and tbh I, a non listener non fan of the group, could memorize those raps. And it’s exactly like you said, their lyrics are very repetitive and it seems like their prioritize good sounding syllables to actual cohesive lyrics because then people who don’t speak the language can learn it easier.
I think it also speaks to this article I had to read for a class I took where they talked about how gg’s are marketed to fans as if they can be a part of the group by doing things like learning the dances and lyrics. Which to me could explain why gg dances and lyrics seem to be a lot easier to repeat
Lol there's this youtube reactor who apparently is a kpop fan and she posted a video reacting to bts for the first time and basically everytime they repeated some lyrics or sang something easy in english she was like "wow that's so cool and awesome!" and got hyped up while completely ignoring the deep lyrics that were showing in her screen, and all she cared about was their beautiful faces, the visuals and the parts where she could sing along and learn right from the spot lol 😂
I was mesmerised with how dumb (with all the respect, I can't call it otherwise) these people tastes are
Her name was jeanet henning or something
I really enjoyed this reaction. BP isn’t for me either but what I loved was your honesty and actually going into why they’re not your thing. It’s great hearing your perspective and not just a yes or no.
this is exactly why im army for life. i actually really like kpop as a whole and listen to a lot of groups, but there very very few groups who have real substance in their lyrics imo. and of them bts are my absolute favourite by FAR. its why i dont like when people say its weird to only like kpop groups who write their own stuff. like damn like who you like, i like kpop groups who dont make their own music too. but there will always be a higher amount of respect for people who try their best to honestly convey their own stories and messages
Agreed, some people need some substance to grasp onto. It's hard to like groups who don't put their emotions into their music 😂
You are living proof that you can try something, dislike it and be decent while talking about it.
TBH I often wait for people who first discover BTS to react to BP just to see how genuine they can be with their opinions about lyrics and music. You are a gem Loui. Not only you took the time (3 videos!) to really give them a chance but you have valid arguments for your opinion.
Personally, I do not like BP, I feel like they started well but did nothing to grow as musicians through the years - the songs sound similar to each other and there is a little to them when it comes to lyrics. They are not representing the k-pop stage well in my opinion so I was happy to see you checking MAMAMOO who are solid artists. I would give a go to LaSerrafim and New Jeans as well - they are quite new girl groups but they released good music so far. Oh, and out of boys groups I feel like you would enjoy TXT who are boy group - a little bit like younger brothers to BTS. Their albums were very good so far and they have very strong dance and live performances.
I am an ARMY but i was first introduce to Kpop by Blackpink.... i fell for Lisa and then i knew BTS and i just stick with them because i relate with a lot of their songs they made me cry, think about my behavior, think about how much i love me, reflect about how i was living my life and then making me want to be a better side of myself, thats what this group of young men is for me,and i mean learning live experiences from them its just so wonderful I am 37 years old and im learnin from them a lot ....so I respect your Blackpink reaction it was nice but it seems you want to feel and relate totally get you....... Im sorry if my english is not the best .........greetings from Mexico!!!!
This was exactly my experience. BP made me give BTS a try and I just got stuck. Nothing else has made me feel or think the things I have while listening to them. Everything else is just paler in comparison.
saludos hermana!! exactly my case!
Same as me.. bp introduced me to kpop but then i encountered bts and never looked back since.. bts just hits differently
You are right in your summary of this group bruh.
Like girls who listen to this might think BP is the ultimate perfection.
The lyrics are all about putting other women down to make themselves feel good and ion vibe with that.
It don't feel like empowerment... its more like giving you self image issues.
Loui is literally still 😂😂😂😂.. never saw him so still 😅
you basically heard the discography atp anyways ☠️
HELPPPPP REAL
this made me giggle LMFAOOO just you standing in silence in the corner 😭😭😭
BTS and kpop groups are world's apart. When you listen to BTS you can feel their sincerity and 'them' in their music. It is because they come from very humble backgrounds and worked their arse up. Every music that comes from them is their own - they write their lyrics, their stories, and create their beats. They have a 'say' in their work. They had to struggle to get where they're now and their only cheat code was talent & hard work. Unlike these other groups that come from bigger influential companies who sing someone else lyrics in someone else's song. Not an ounce of artistry in them.
When I got into BTS first, I thought all kpop was same but was so underwhelmed. Not even 1% of sincerity or artistry in their work. I'm proud to be an ARMY for BTS only. They're my life's artist and I'm forever grateful towards them. They were the first artist I got into and I am sure is my last and forever.
Try Mamamoo, they have really similar path to BTS (from poor company to build their label more famose and "Mamamoo company" basically). Hwasa, for example, fight against toxic beauty standards (like "if I am not suitable I will be my one standard"), also in their music topics like self love, being just yourself, take it easy sometimes and other stuff. Also their live performances are CRAZY. Literally live strong vocals all the time and stage presence is crazy (also I like how they engage with audience (when they change lyrics for example for different famous celebrities in audience or specific place, for example).
@@goldenhime8404 Hi, I am familiar with Mamamoo. Unfortunanetely, no fault of theirs ofcourse, the only song from them that I liked was Starry Night. I'm sure they're wonderful but I don't feel any connection to them.
Also, it's not just coming from humble backgrounds you know, it's also BTS's music, personality and just them as people that connects me to them. I have been an army for over 7 years now, and before finding BTS I am what now we all call 'a GP'. I had no interest in musicians and didn't even get the fan culture. So imagine my surprise having BTS in my life. They're my life's artist and I honestly don't have any interest to find another musician. They're enough for me. BTS are it.
@@goldenhime8404 Dude I definitely like all the ladies of MMM. They are definitely people to look upto (except few past mistakes). But yeah, unfortunately a lot of their songs are not up my ally. I do like few of their songs like Starry Night, Egoistic, Maria, Twit, Gogobebe, Yes I AM and few others. I really love how they have such great stage presence.
You’ve just learned about 95% of k-pop from watching Blackpink.
I have absolutely no hate towards the artists in Blackpink. They're clearly talented and beautiful and they work hard. It more an industry-wide problem to focus on visuals, beats/beat drops, and choreography and sort of forget about the melodies, lyrics, and messaging.
BTS were nurtured as ARTISTS and the differences between them and most other k-pop artists get wider and wider as they mature as full-grown musicians given that early nurturing.
Not all k-pop is like this, but most of it is. There are some other groups that write/produce their own stuff. I personally dont like most of it (I like a song here or there). Most ARMYs give k-pop a chance and most end up sticking with BTS.
You hit the nail on the head. If you are into music for the art, BTS is (for me personally) the only option in "k-pop".
If you want it for the show, the eye candy and the entertainment, yeah, other groups will deliver it all.
But the artistry of BTS is dramatically unmatched. No offence, but it’s just the truth.
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I love this comment. Very much a clearer perspective of the situation than many on the comment section. 💜
Ty for your honesty. I found K-pop through BP but once I discovered BTS they became my ult group. Butter and Dynamite got me noticing them but Daechwita and the Cyphers got me down that rabbit hole. 💜
This was my first time hearing 2/3 of these songs, and... that was an experience. And while I like a couple of their older songs, I haven't vibed with them for a long time, and hearing those 2 new songs kind of cemented it. I do agree the beats and drops can be a draw, but it also just seems like a cacophony of sounds at times without enough of a voice of who they are and what's actually important to them as artists.
As far as, "maybe it's because I'm not a girl..." no. That's the problem - these are lyrics written by a 40+ year old man for young women.
"She is like trying to brainwash me"😭😭
Not some of these comments recommending you another kpop group AGAIN 😭 yall really out here recommending a HIPHOP fan a group whos not even writing their own lyrics, or theres no substance at all 😭 saying theyre good dancers or what bruh ..for the love of God not everyone who gets into bts need to check every kpop group there is.. bye its embarassing. bts just built diff bc they actually HAVE substance. theyve got stories to tell in each one of their songs. u can also see it in their MVs. no matter how flashy their outfits are, the visuals, or choreography, their lyrics mostly stood out. Save Me mv didnt even have all that visuals and its just a one shot mv, but the lyric substance is there.
Kpopies are always like this if we comment on other groups related content they say "Armys are toxic not everything is about BTS blah blah" they think if someone like bts they would like to other groups too
@@Dreamer0613 frrr
Fr save me is the best example of good lyrics music without visuals
Sorry had to laugh at the "sorry I ain't doing this shit again" bit 😂😂😂
Its so funny cos lemme tell you something whenever a new reactor starts to react on BTS kpoppies get in their comment section and keep suggesting their own group saying things like "Oh you liked xyz song of Bts then i am sure you will like xyz group" like they do this everytime...i mean i like the fact that you keeping it real and not forcing yourself to like something you genuinely dont enjoy ...anyways REACT TO INDIGO BY RM ....THATS A MASTERPEICE😭
this is exactly how I felt when I tried to get into bp. I was like "well they're the most popular female kpop group so they must be very good right" but I just couldn't relate. I agree with what you said about their lyrics that's exactly what drives me away from them. It's like I know they're talented we can see that, but why are their lyrics so meaningless, there's never any clear story throughout their music videos either. I love a good concept, like I need some art please. It also helps me enjoy an artist when they actually have writing/producing credits on their songs, but bp rarely ever do. They're supposedly a voice for 'women empowerment' but it feels like I can't actually know what their true voice and perception of things are.
YO THIS VIDEO HAD ME DYING CTFU FRFR🤣💀🤣💀🤣💀💀🤣💀💯 I was lmao so hard that I had to watch it again cause I couldn’t believe the sheer GENUINE AUTHENTIC REALISM in your thoughts and reaction. I literally had to watch this reaction again just to see you give the realism. It was amazing having a reaction where HYPE was not taken in at all. For a group that has been around for 7 years but only been really active for 2-3 years combined total due to long hiatuses. I’m glad you were able to see through the shell/facade of the HYPE. I have been a new sub of yours for a few days now but and I’m glad that I’m not regretting my decision to subscribe at all. This reaction solidified it for me. Standing ovation 👏🏾 🙌🏾👏🏾🙌🏾👏🏾🙌🏾👏🏾🙌🏾👏🏾🙌🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
His expressions 😂😂😂 I literally have the same reaction when i watch their mvs.😂😂😂
Blackpink is how kpop sounds like in generally. Catchy n trendy melody, especially from YG (blackpink company) is really good with created an unique instrument sounds. Their type of music suited for nightclub or just having fun without care with the lyrics because most of kpop music has shallow n cheesy lyrics. Is not suited with people who care with the beauty of the lyrics n have deep meaningful meaning. Is really few of kpop group have a deep n meaningful lyric that can stir ur emotion or make u contemplation beside have a good sounds with good production.
boy??? your freestyle was so much better than the whole song lmaooo
My problem with BlackPink is that you can see the claws of their company and corporation behind every single thing they do. Their songs are all about 'female empowerment' but how much input in the words they're saying have they even had? Honestly Pink Venom and Shut Down feel like how much cultural appropriation can you put into a song to profit from... They have '1 by 1 even 2 by 2' from Rihanna, 'you couldn't get a dollar out of me' by 50 cent, the flow in one part is literally a carbon copy of a Cardi B verse, Shut Down has a lot of UK Grime elements, there's more but these are just the ones coming to my mind. And again, being inspired and adapting music you like into your own artistic expression with homage is totally fine! BTS does this constantly, they are so rooted in American Hip Hop but they have taken it and transformed it into something which is their own, done their research and truly embodied it. BlackPink get handed a song that someone copy pasted other better artists work into and repeat it along with random noises. I want to be super clear that I'm not shitting on the girls themselves, I do think that they have talent and potential but it's like their entire artistic license has been squeezed dry from them by the company while they go on about how 'confident' and how much 'better' they are. I can't imagine that behind the scenes they are actually fulfilled and inspired or have high self worth honestly. As a woman I don't see them and think 'wow what confident, inspiring women' I see them and feel disgusted at the way the patriarchy and capitalism has taken advantage of them. It's honestly unsettling for me. But I can imagine that to impressionable young girls who are feeling like they're not enough, they would think this is peak confidence and jump right on board to try to be like them. But as you said, that's so harmful! It's not reality!!! You'll never be the prettiest or the best at anything no matter who you are but you are so beautiful and special because you're just you and that's more than enough. I would hope that the BlackPink members themselves would one day be able to do some soul searching of their own and really find out who they are and what they personally love, because I see absolutely none of that here. The only alternative theory to them being dragged along and controlled into this narrative honestly is that behind the scenes they're actually awful people with giant ego complexes who think they're better than everyone but I don't know them so want to give them the benefit of the doubt. Anyway, moving on lol!
i couldnt stop laughing when that "boring" slipped out. i mean its true
One thing I realized when I got into kpop. It's that it is definitely hard to focus on other kpop groups when your introduction to kpop is Bts. Like, those guys set the standards too high. There's definitely a song out there from a kpop artist that you would like. I have a few. But let's just say the only group I followed is Bts.
11:38 BIG FACTS. That’s one of many factors that play into why blackpink is not great to me. If you’re not rich, skinny, beautiful and all of the things they are then the songs are just going to show you how much better they are than you. I don’t want to be reminded of how much uglier or fatter or poorer I am compared to them, I want to be told that no matter how I look I’m beautiful. And to my knowledge that is not something they’ve ever sang about
There are gg which have sang that for you :)
"I respect you whatever you say"
"They only see what they want to believe"
"There's only one you in this world"
You’re just insecure and center men who doesn’t care about women in your life 😂
Actually the way you just put it, their music is just bully mentality
@@mirroruniverse9331 what gg?
@@thatkpopsis I mean…I’m sure they don’t mean it like that but yeah. I can’t imagine if I had heard this as a middle schooler thinking that I had to be as skinny and rich to be considered great.
"you're gonna be striving to look like them but you should be striving to look like you" Damn Tribe Loui! Wise words!
This really resonates with me. I've heard a couple blackpink songs that I've enjoyed, but i 'enjoyed' them the same way I enjoy other k-pop songs: as a purely auditory listening experience. A sort of "Oh, this is fun to listen to :)" sort of vibe. But when I think of music I love? I cherish? That I think about, come back to again and again? It's never been Blackpink. They've never inspired any genuine emotion in me.
RM once said something along the lines of, when he makes music, his goal isn't necessarily to write a song you fall in love with completely immediately. He wants to write music that you come back to. That you read the lyrics for once and interpret it one way, just to listen to it again later and interpret it differently. That's the kind of relationship I like with music, and that's the only type of music that could inspire any sort of fantacism in me. That's why the only artist I've ever genuinely ~stanned~ is BTS. They have that, as well as genuinely enjoyable music in spades.
Yeah I'm surprised you're giving them another chance! We'll see how it goes ...
I respect the fact that you're being real about what music you're wanting to try and stick with. Don't let others sway you - if you don't like it, then you don't like it. That's cool. But if you do, then awesome.
Either way, it's all good. Anyways, I'm going to watch the reaction now and see what you think after a second listen.
Now that I've heard your thoughts - I totally respect it and get what you're saying. And in a lot of ways I agree with that you're saying. I still really love BLACKPINK's music, but I understand what you mean by wanting substance. Just stick to BTS for now.
maybe armyblinks or shippers are keep requesting it?
There’s a reason people say BTS is the genre, we don’t really claim K-pop and honestly for a long time the establishment of K-pop didn’t claim BTS and worked against them soooooo we move on. Because BTS didn’t come up in one of the ‘big 3’ idol/k-pop producing labels, they were allowed to move a little differently and be more independent and produce music that is more honest, more political, more real, and more expressive. Not saying you shouldn’t give k-pop a chance! There are some talented folks in there, but you don’t want to be expecting a BTS around every corner (or frankly any corner…) bc you’ll just be disappointed! Enjoying watching you ARMY up! 😂
A friend perfectly describe their songs: very self serving.
Like, must it always be about you?
I literally saw your reaction to jhope and j Cole a view ours ago. And it's like 6.24 am here... I watched all of your reaction videos to BTS untill now. I have to go to work in about 2 hours (?), but I couldn't stop because it's the first reaction channel in a long time with honest reactions. I love how respectful and open you are to music and the artist's. Thank you for that 💜 Also I watch many reaction videos about our boys, because it feels like I have friends that watch the same content as me (I don't have any army friends 🥺 ) , so thank you again. I enjoyed every content. And I definitely have the notification bell on. Tribe Loui you nice keep going. Borahae 💜💃
Bestie go get some sleep!!
Damn im in your same position right now lol I have to work in a few hours shit
worth it 😄😄
Mad respect for being honest!!😆💜
"She tryin to brainwash me." 😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂
I appreciate your honesty and being respectful. I think the male idea of empowerment is women becoming rich and blackpink embody that "male idea". It makes their lyrics sound more materialistic and more grounded in capitalism. It isn't a reflection of what empowerment is (because I can assure you that getting rich is one element of empowerment, not empowerment itself) so to me their image screams "if you're pretty and rich you're powerful" which really isn't the case out in the real world. Yeah their songs are nice to jam to once in a while, but if I'm looking for art I'll just look elsewhere.
That’s a great point
I like the Paganini sample. That’s about the best thing I can say about any single they’ve put out.
It’s a 🔥 sample
have you watched the Sell Out parody from twoset violin yt channel? lol
I think its usually more commen for Army to like indiviual kpop songs instead of other groups, so it's not that unusual If you try another group to like a few songs but not really all of the group
it's a little crazy that most of their mvs look like they could be from the same album even though they've been around for a while! their singles kind of sound similar too. the most interesting part of their mvs for me so far was lisa talking about her thai roots and showing her culture in her solo song, so i did like that piece of storytelling, but it went straight back to their norm after that part lol. shut down is prob my fav of these minus the 'whip it whip it whip it whip it' part LoL. i can see why people like them - their songs are rhythmic earworms, but they lack the depth, growth & diversity i would want and look for from a top tier/fave artist
All their mvs looked similar to me too. Ik jisoo co-wrote 1-2 songs. But i didn't know lisa wrote lyrics too... I'm assuming she wrote since u said she talked about her roots and culture
Their music is not known to be too deep
as much as its really nice of you to give them another chance, i feel like if you dont like one blackpink song ur probably not gonna like most of their discography since each one of their releases have almost exactly the same formula and lyrics💀 "they have talent tho" yeah for sure which is pretty sad bc i feel like all of their potential gets wasted by the company that forces this overused "bad bitches better than everyone" concept on them instead of letting them grow musically and develop their own artistic essences. i think it would be for the best if the group just disbanded and each girl were to go in her own direction, maybe that way they could as least have some artistic freedom and show their true colors
honestly even their solo stuff is just very controlled i mean just looking at "lalisa", which is even worse than the group stuff, i mean imagine having a self title single and album that's supposed to be about YOU but you haven't wrote a single line and all it says is "lalisa love me lalisa love me" over and over again. This could only work if they don't renew their contract and go to another company, or just make music independtly which probably ain't gonna happen since the girls have never even produced or wrote a full song by themselves and that takes a lot of practice to learn. U don't just suddenly become a songwriter after years of singing bullshit handed out to you every 2 years.
@@-amel-9896 oh yeah for sure, i was definitely thinking about it in terms of them singing into a different company bc there's no way they could ever release their full potential and actually thrive under yg. but sadly that's most likely not gonna happen and they will stick to the easier and more profitable way
I don't see any talents or potential for each individuals. Rappers can't write a verse or make bits or melody, singers have been singing in same tone and tonality since their debut. They just look cool and pretty managed by their label company. Leaving from one of the BIG 3 management labels in Korea, doubt it.
@@anais3913 i have to disagree there, i think rose's voice is absolutely beautiful and with a help of a good vocal coach she could do wonders with it, same with jennie who on top of that has an outstanding stage presence (people may argue with that but just look at her during their coachella performance, i think the whole "acting lazy" situation right now boils down to her just simply not enjoying blackpink stages that much anymore therefore she doesn't even bother to try, but when she DOES enjoy it .. man you just can't take your eyes off her) and lisa imo should just stick to dancing bc that's her biggest(ekhm only) strength. as for writing and producing skills .. yeah they might not have much experience with that but i don't see why they couldn't reach at least a decent level if they had some actually good producers and lyricists to work with who could help them and guide them along the way. i mean just look at bts, they started off with rap line producing and writing most stuff while the vocal line members were only contributing little bits here and there, but they didn't stop at that, they were continuously learning and developing their own skills and here we are now, all of them ready to actually work on their personal solo projects and jimin just dropped a fucking incredible album where he is not only credited as a lyricist producer and composer but also he played some instruments himself. no one is really born with any 'talent' or a specific set of skills but people learn if only they are given a chance and have actual passion for what they're doing
@@lavendermistone let's forget abt the kpop idea of rap look into the real world of rap, if u cnt write ur own lyrics if u can compute a full sentence u ain't a rapper, n speaking of stage presence dey have none did u watch d nonsense dey did at vma or even on James corden, dey need a lot of practice like a whole lot to actually be real artists dey need to start 4rm beginning n focus on music if dey ever wanna become real artists, as for raw talent d only person dt has any is rose she has an amazing voice n if cultivated she could be a good artists, jennie n Lisa need to continue modeling dey av no artists talents jisoo is an amazing actress so thats d only place she will do well. That is the plain truth
There's LITERALLY a saying we have that "bts IS the genre". I always shiver a little when they're called a kpop group, like I know they're Korean, but they are so much bigger than just "kpop" 🤷♀️ Anyways I've tried a few other groups too but they made me feel nothing. Music video and choreography wise, some are great. But as far as lyrics, depth, and meaning, it is mostly shallow. Bts isn't just making music to make money. They are making art that is full of purpose 💜
Your honesty and reasons you aren't a fan makes me like you even more
i cant stan them for the life of me after seeing jennie wearing box braids unapologetically and saying the n word and theyve never apologized for it.
Wait wha?????????
Wait Hol on hol on 😭😭😭 wtfffff
@@tribeloui2023 yea bro just look up her name wt the key words n itll pop up
corn rows but yeah, lisa wore the box braids i’m pretty sure, i could be wrong tho, i don’t pay attention to BP much
@@reese8912 Jennie’s done em a lot I remember seein her wt both tbh
@@al-qt1kl oh no😟
Thank you for being honest, music is not only to be catchy, you have to value it for what it is in its entirety, as a material product, or as a song that seeks to contribute something to society, transmit your feelings or thoughts, which is done for the love of art and music.
You're being respectful, kudos. I wouldn't be able to do that 😅 thank you for keeping it real and genuine!
props to you for giving them another chance. and another props for being true to you.
im not gonna lie Tribe, BLACKPINK was the group that got me into kpop and even tho they're one of my fav girl groups, THERE'S A REASON why i resonate with BTS ALOT more than i do with BLACKPINK even tho i discoverd BLACKPINK and became a kpop fan first.
PERSONALLY, I like BP's music bc of how their songs SOUND.. Not bc of their lyrics lol.. As a matter of fact, when 12 year old me discovered them in 2019, their lyrics never bothered me because come on-💀 i was literally a curious 12 year old so i never really pay attention to lyrics BUT when i became an ARMY in 2021, ALL OF THAT CHANGED! BTS's deep and thoughtful lyricism is EVERYTHING I NEVER KNEW I NEEDED and it has helped me soooooo much in my life. 💜 Not only did i fall in love with pretty much their entire discography but those 7 men are so random, down to earth, smart, charitable, funny and FINE ASL! 😭like HOW COULD I NOT BE HOOKED??
Im SO GLAD i found BTS cuz they literally proved that you can have music that NOT ONLY SOUNDS GOOD IN UR EARS, but ALSO has SUBSTANCE and REAL EMOTION.
As a fan of BP, i can say that substance is definitely something they lack most of the time but i don't hold that against them. It is what it is lol😂 their music is more like party songs to me but BTS's music is more passionate, inspiring, deep and ACTUAL HEAT. 🔥 They be cookin up in the studio fr fr!
You spoke your truth fearlessly and I just subscribed because of it😭the honesty is what’s lacking on TH-cam lmao
First time to hear these songs and my head hurts ngl.
Asides from your honesty (which I appreciate a lot) I also really like how you word your opinion on stuff. Like I definitely feel the same way you do about black pink and their music. There’s just no substance at all. Their producers/writers chose a specific formula and just copy paste it for every song. Even for the solo song, you could tell it was just another blackpink copy paste. It sounded Exactly like the others, which is actually insane.
I personally cannot enjoy music not only so void of meaning, but of life itself. I don’t think these songs are even good as thoughtless party music, coz they’re just so damn flat. Repeat an annoying chorus over and over again, over a non-changing noise-like instrumental, with an added switch at the last, like, 20 seconds. That’s literally It. I mean, if you enjoy it, kudos to you! Keep doing you and enjoying what you enjoy. Im just being real.
But for real, I appreciate you and your channel for always being true to yourself as well. Truly looking forward to more of your content, coz I can tell you’re actually mad genuine and have a deep love for music. Keep doing your thing!
Right?!
Pink venom is such an awkward song!!?! And it was the one they were promoting??!
I honestly felt embarrassed watching them perform it
11:32 lmao im a woman but can't relate to them too 😂
I'm binge watching your kpop reactions. Love your honesty 🤣❤️ the rap was cool at the end.
Bruh i like you being genuine its nice refreshing tbh i am watching some other vids from you as well, its nice you have a curious nature, makes for good content
first of all, thank you for being real. i am sure you must have heard this a lot but it's a really rare quality in reactors to keep it real.
sorry for the big rant on here, but watching this i had a lot of thoughts so lol just need to put it out i guess. i just have a lot of frustrations and i have been a fan for six years so lmao if anyone comes for me just know i have witnessed all this stuff and i know how this works. so don't come at me. no need to read thought its just me being angry lmaosjd
i don't usually say this stuff so yeah... i listened to bts first from kpop, and seeing how good they are (especially after getting to know their roots in hip-hop) i went out looking for other artists in kpop because i thought that if not everyone, at least someone should be as good right? blackpink had just debuted like barely a year ago and even then they had a lot of hype around them, a lot of my friends told me to check them out when i asked for recs.... it was a very underwhelming experience to say the least, but i thought that as the years go by they will find their creative direction as a group and their music will evolve. it's been six years since then if i am not wrong, and there is absolutely no change.
i had realised way before though that bts are an anomaly in kpop. this is why i hate it when the whole damn world keeps bts and them at the same pedestal. these girls are talented and actually can do better but.. they don't? their fans keep saying the reason they don't have any hand in their music is because of their company and i would have listened to it if they were a new group just starting by. but bro six years down your career, allegedly a group with the same power as some of the biggest in the industry and your money keeps the company afloat and you want me to believe you are still treated like that? take a stand i dont know? it's your career, i would have been so tired if i was told to just keep saying the same thing just with different synonyms in every song.
and the thing is their whole concept is women empowerment or girlbossing, but we established it in 2000's itself how toxic that mindset is. this is what people call toxic feminism because what they are doing is harming others. it's rare to be as attractive as them, or be as rich, so as you said it just makes you feel more bad. but no they are kept at the same level as bts when there is no need to! bts are on an another league it's okay to accept that. what i hate more is the group and their company itself keep saying the same. their whole career is made on the "bts only women" concept, like i am tired bro. also this thing with treated kpop as a genre when it's an industry will never get fail to amuse me.. this is why if you are an army and you say you just like bts as a team, you are treated as someone who is snobby or has a superiority complex. i remember the amount of hate i got just for being an army. why do i need to like every damn group in existence out there? it's not my taste that's all. i might have a few songs saved but that's all really, i don't need people treating me like some weird person just because i openly said i don't vibe with others.
people run around saying all this shit about armys being toxic, and the worst fandom when seriously all we do is listen to bts and support them. yes there are some bad eggs but which fandom doesn't? TT atleast we don't mobilize with 10's or 20's of other fandoms to target one group and push them down (exactly what they did lmao we weren't even big then). most people here are for music and it gets proved so fast when you see the online community and see how good armys are with helping each other with different associations and charity projects we start. witnessing the amazing art armys put out after being inspired by the boy's music, and all the lyrical discussions and breakdowns we have every release is so cool. the agustd concerts proved it too, because the crowd was insane, even in songs which got released barely a week ago we had everyone singing and having fun. this is how you celebrate music and love art. and the reason for this is that bts have always been focused on the core of their art and have been genuine. and the fans have been focused on protecting them since the very start. and bts persisted the worst hate and smear campaigns throughout their career, nothing is breaking them apart. they love their team, and they love music and are talented that's all TT. this escalated into entirely something else and ik no one is gonna read so loljs just had to put this out. thank you!
It’s like bts has set those standards idk but i dont know how to explain but yeah i feel what you’re saying
@@syugas you get it!! bts set these insane standards, and labels think it's easy to "replicate" it TT this is why no one comes close
@@rawrjoon bts was my introduction to kpop and I you're right. They set the standards too high. I enjoy other kpop songs and I do like some other groups after the fact, but they're just not doing it like them...
Your whole reaction is just so real. "WHAT ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT?" LOL. It's just... not only do all their songs sound alike (noise) but they all talk about the same thing and there's no substance 😩
love your honesty. you’re a breath of fresh air. I’m a girl and I don’t feel any kind of empowerment listening to their songs. I’m sticking with you! Don’t worry about the haters.
"What are they talking about?".. 😂😂... i like u Tribe! Your face during the whole vid is a whole mood😅
I appreciate you keeping it real because millions (yes, millions) are NOT into BP, and you're one of them as am I. I just wish more people would tell the truth about it, because every song they've released is not a SOTY contender. In fact, they've never won that award. I enjoy your reactions so very much. You're authentic and funny as hell. I love how you're always laughing. Keep up the amazing BTS reactions! Borahae💜
You need to decode "134340" by BTS, i bet it is one of the most beautiful song by them lyrically.
This happens to many armies too when they try to listen to other kpop artists after listening to BTS. Coz BTS write their own lyrics n are involved in making process so it's their stories many times which seems more relatable. N with BP, no doubt they are talented but their involve ment in making of songs are very less, these lyrics are not even written by them.
Maybe just a suggestion, and you may or maynot be doing this, knowingly or not, ....
but I degrees, what I wanted to say is that there are many many reasons why lots of BTS fans love them but do not listen to kpop in general. Because like you have come to realize BTS is definitely kpop to a certain extent, but they have also broken past that genre a long while ago. So my advice when checking some of these other artists is to remember to actively not compare them to BTS. Don't even try and relate them, it will probably help you get a better opinion of the artist you are currently checking out. Just a recommendation. Hope it helps!
Hmmm ngl that’s a pretty good point
BTS did raise the standards of what I thought K-POP would be
they stand in a tier of their own tbh
Thank you for saying this I would be doing these future kpop artists I listen too a disservice tryna compare them to BTS
10/10 observation DragonsWratthxxx💜😁
@@tribeloui2023 true, yep, thats what I was thinking, I'm glad you seem to completely understand, and of course hope it will help. Oh and O wanted to tell you....
I know you don't have a bias in BTS yet but.......
(don't worry jhope is lots of peoples bias, including mine from day one, and has never changed, but promise I won't tell anyone, 😉 😉)
But in all seriousness, thats your decision, no pressure, thats all you!
But how does he not fall into that state of mind when some random kpoppies are like: "If you like this xyz BTS song then you will like this xyz group/artist" 🤷♀️ they are already setting their fav up for comparison.
I love BTS, but I’m unable to get into K-Pop in general. I find a lot of other ARMYs feel the same.
Don't worry, you already prolly already listen 50% of their total album.
Oh GOD please never ever change Mr. Loui😁😁😁
I think 90% ppl comes to know about k-pop through bts (esp. after dynamite) & then they start exploring other groups as well. At least that's what I did. i looked into a lot of other korean artists but ended up becoming army. & Never regretted it.
I saw a blink's hate twt on my fyp saying sh!t about bts & that armys are more interested in bp music... I replied we listened to it that's how we decided it wasn't our taste. & Asked them if they hated bts without even listening to them... There was no reply.
I get a feeling a lot of ppl just hate BTS without even giving them a proper chance. I always think of suga's word "if u listen to bts w/o prejudice u will like it" ( i also think even if u don't like it there's nothing to hate. I mean how can anyone hate a message like Love yourself, equal sign, life goes on, not today etc)
Although there a few songs i like from others such as. Hwasa's maria, john eun's hope, epik high eternal Sunshine.
that's what happen when other people write your rap for you not a single meaningful word lmafoooo
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The rappers don’t even write their own verses 😭 frauds
You might enjoy Rosé's solo stuff. It's a little bit more acoustic, but her lyrics actually mean something
I agree. Not a fan, but i love her solo songs
I definitely found one of my favorite reaction channels with you!! I am glad I subscribed.
(alongside JoseOchoaTV, xCeleste, WhatchaGot2Say and Michael Beveraggi)
Seriously it is like clockwork, everytime a channel discovers BTS and genuinely enjoys their art, the channel gets spammed with random K-pop groups to react to next.
Most of these channels comply because it gives them interactions and they say exactly what people want to hear and not give honest opinions. Seriously the amount of reaction channels I have seen faking their videos made me (and many ARMY) block them.
The engagement you get from K-Pop fans seems huge at first and people try to ride that wave but they don't realize that those clicks aren't from a specific fandom, most of them are from K-Pop fans who will drop you as a channel as soon as you say "something wrong" or don't react "properly".
BTS is not K-Pop. ARMY are not a K-pop fandom.
Dont get me wrong I listen to some K-Pop acts or certain songs sometimes and I think its really cool if you find someone else from Korea like BTS you genuinely enjoy - but the focus here is GENUINELY!
I am really glad I found you, you seem like a really nice and genuine guy.
I will keep it real, I will probably watch your BTS videos the most, but I have watched some of your other content aswell and I enjoyed it.
(My older sister was born in 1986 roughly when Chernobyl happened, so it had a pretty significant inpact on our family here in Europe. My mom was so scared for her (birth defects or later issues from radiation, as people weren't supposed to go outside much, play in sand, or eat mushrooms etc)
also ngl you are me and I am you when I listened to Blackpink the first time. I cannot get into them for the life of me but they are shoved down everyones throats constantly and get called "the female BTS" like???!!! Their marketing is crazy.
I recommend JIM GAMES channel, he is one of the very rare true reactional clips posted and he got many hate comments from BP fans and he doesn't care at all.
I'm sorry that I say this, but suggesting Pink Venom as if they have gold lyrics are DOOMED 😭😭😭😭 No substances and only "LOOK I'M RICH I'M HIGHER THAN U" 😭😭
honestly if they hadn’t sampled Paganini in Shut Down i wouldn’t have listened to it as much as i did... i first got interested in kpop because of my love for dancing, so i do enjoy some of their songs that i can dance to, but tbh that’s about it. after years of them singing about the same things it got predictable and i don’t even vibe with those messages so yeah. there’s a lot of lines in their songs that particularly bother me (for a women “empowering” group they sure have a lot of lyrics that put other women down). and the fandom is just nasty, if i’m being honest, i’m happy they didn’t come for you (and tbh how could they when you’re so respectful 🥺). i always have fun watching you, for real. so thank you for sharing your reactions and honest opinions! can’t wait for you to watch some more run bts because i’m having so much fun just chilling with you watching them all the way from the beginning 😊
This is the first time I'm actually reading BP lyrics. How do people like them? I mean... why would I like an artist who keeps telling me to bow down and worship and I can never be them and just keep being jealous? Seriously? Wow... This seems like brainwash honestly.
Yeah... they have catchy tunes but... there is not a lot there. The problem is their catalogue is small, so having some songs were you just talk shit is cool but you have to have something of substance to back it up. I can't take them seriously. The few songs that are more relatable just arent that good either.
Many BP fans blame their company on limiting what they release and keeping them from being 'artists'. I think that's why they get defensive.
I’m convinced people stan them for their looks. Like there’s nothing to catch on. Like what is even pink venom is about? I’m trying to understand the lyrics but idk what the hell they’re saying 😂 just some random words together.. not even trying to shade them
Watching you just stand still in the corner the entire time is having me WEAKKKK😂😂
You posting this shows you’re a real one 🤧
DUDE YOU ARE SO REAL FOR THIS😭😭😂😂😂😂