Interesting to finally see a study done on the alleged toxicity of the container floors. I epoxy sealed my entire container home's floor because of the claims that pesticides used ln the floorboards could off gas toxicity.
Ditto, I was told that the manifest sheet on the side of the container tells you what chemiclas were used in the container to prevent pests and rodents so I had planned on removing all of my floors. I had my first container floor epoxied as well but now I'm glad to find out that I don't have to remove the flooring of my other containers.
Ive worked in and around containers for years and I have owned 2. If you intend to live in or store soft goods in one you should have a plan for mitigating the "toxic" smell/ oder, because it will permeate whatever you store in it. If you store soft goods like cloths and dont have them sealed and protected they will end up smelling like the floor of a container. I like the bamboo floors as they dont have an oder like the chemicaly treated floors. Posibly because they have a polyurethane seal on top. Just my 2 cents.
Iived permanently +5 years in these boxes, new and very old one. Never had any issues, except for moisture which is handled efficiently by Meaco dehumidifier.
I really enjoy your information that will be helpful for me not to learn the hard way. I am still living in my car but saving my money to be in a better place in another year when my daughter moves over. The floor has been an issue in some of our ideas for a layout with joining 3 side by side. Thinking of a raised floor on the middle section.
I recommend High Cube if possible, the extra height makes a huge difference. Don't weld any fixture for framing/plating! Just make an wooden H shaped construction and hold it place with the top beams. We made hundreds of these insulated constructions... Insane what extra work even professionals are wasting on that widespread basic misconception!
I was happy to see the plywood isn't listed as toxic. However, my containers were used for tires and tractor parts. Without sealing the odor of oil and rubber is pronounced. So, the initial plywood might be 'okay' but many are chemically treated for insects. So, the same reason I don't direct contact pressure treated lumber, I would not direct contact shipping container plywood. I intend to paint with Kilz then skim coat the plywood and tile.
I like your videos. You do a good job at it and you have a great personality for communicating with viewers. I must say though I find your hardware prices strikingly high relative to the same or similar items available elsewhere on the internet. If you can continue to sell hardware at more than twice the price of others, I guess it's all good, at least for you all.
Excellent video. If you position that ring toward the corner and ratcheted it up it might pop it up easier. Then get yourself a Burke Bar. Best pry bar known to man. Once you pop a corner up with a 1/4" gap that Burke Bar will do the rest.
We repair hundreds of shipping containers yearly, including smashed flooring. Never had any issues lifting these boards or exchanging parts of destroyed flooring. Suits evenly... Eventually drill new holes and remember to seal efficiently.
The floor looks good as a hempcrete guide. I reckon you could put hempcrete in the container and put tiles down for hot environments And use those floor boards as for wall guides extending the building
About the floor, what I heard is that chemicals could be spilled that makes them unsafe. But I did not hear the flooring itself was unsafe. But if it had a spill, that would seam to be evident by either smell or staining the flooring.
I'm building a house out of 2forty foot container and need to know if I need to add extra strength to the container beams along the bottom of the container
So when you remove the flooring you can then insulate the floor? Because you can not insulate from the bottom there will be a vacant area in there? Or is it possible to just spray foam the bottom and your done? Do you think i will need to insulate the floor living in Rosarito México? Its always 50-80 degrees all year round mostly 69 degrees here most everyday thanks love your videos i never wanted to believe that the floors are toxic but i see they are toxic but we eat a lot of tacos so i think we will be fine and we wont have much to walk on if we do keep eating the floors
I missed it in your video. Are those floor joists I beams or C channels? 1 of my sea cans mice are coming through the floor at my farm. I was thinking of removing the plywood and cutting it into strips to drop into the bottom of the I beams and silicone around them to seal up then start filling the channels with quikrete. I seriously doubt mice will chew through that much steel and concrete to get in again. But if its C channel I'll need to secure one side of the plywood with screws through the channel. Overall a great video. It is hugely helpful to see how to remove that flooring.❤
The PVC wall panels that we use all the time are for people who don't know how to drywall. Screw them on and you're done. Already white.. no mudding, no taping, no sanding, no painting.. waterproof finish. Can't ask for more than that.
thanks for the very useful video what would the best way for a normal guy to insulate the floor? set it up on a bunch of blocks and crawl under and put mineral wool? use a forklift and lift it up and have a spray foam guy get underneath? both of these ideas sound super risky to me any experts?
2" rigid foam on top of the container floor, tape the seams, install 5/8" T&G plywood subfloor on top (screw down through foam into the container floor), install flooring on top of subfloor, build walls directly on top of the new flooring. Leave everything 1" away from the walls. Spray foam insulate.
Tilt the box ~30 degrees with a plain "coffee mill" jack. Support with suitable steel fixture for personal safety. Isolate with Styrofoam or whatever preferred... Seal of the whole bottom with blind riveted ~1mm galvanised sheet against pests. We made hundreds of these constructions for industrial use in Scandinavia..
I just got a used container with a few cracked spots. No way the philips head screws are coming out. I just cut all the screws off a rusty truckbed recently. Im not doing that again... Going to cover it all in 1/2 plywood, and maybe epoxy floor paint.
another great vid, thanks for sharing. Instead of the ratchet straps, you could just put the d rings on each side, then two guys with big crowbars or pips stick them inside d rings and use it like a fulcrum to lift up the piece of wood?
Keep in mind that on these floors on the centerpieces and on the edges they router down a section from front to back about 1/16th to 1/8 of an inch thick on the bottom of the panels so they will sit flush. On the edges underneath the floor and in the center there is about a 1/8 inch thick piece of flat strap metal going from front to back and in order for the panel to sit fully flush the plywood panels on the bottom are routered down.
Great video bud! Hey we have a container that we converted into a bike repair shop. The floor was epoxy painted but now we are having an issue with a dark oily substance seeping up through the floor. We cut out a section of the floor and found that the bottom of the container was coated with a tar type of substance. Is there something we can do to prevent the seepage without having to replace the floor? Thanks
Weird that it's seeping upwards. Not really how gravity works. Must be catching a ride with water or something. Is the container sitting directly on the ground? If so, try getting it up on blocking to air out the underside.
The myth isn't actually a myth but more the usual confusion of facts. A 'one tripper' will usually have a safe floor but where the actual concern comes from is the used/well used containers that could have been used for transport and/or storage of highly toxic chemicals and products that would have contaminated the floorboards. Some companies keep strict records of items transported with these containers but if the container was used as extra storage at some location using extremely toxic products, there's no enforcement on logs so you'll never know.
Thankyou for providing information. It is too bad you do not offer container services in the US, specifically VA. There seems a wash of internet container companies across the US. Mis advertising, not disclosing full pricing, transportation costs... I am interested in the purchase of some containers and may transport them myself... but I can not get a depot price to understand the markup in price. I am willing to pay a fair price for me not a good price to the "broker " who has no controll on the quality. The "shipping container transportation seems more then the container cost, great gig. Thanks for your information. Additional information on how to move/load them ourselves would be helpful. At least not what to do.
You never addressed the rumours about wood flooring being impregnated with toxic insecticides, fungicides, and rodenticides (is that even a word?), and the dangers with offgassing of these toxic chemicals.
Over 9 minutes before any attempt was made to remove a single piece of flooring. Does everyone know to remove all the screws? Does everyone know how to tell a phillips head from a torx head?
Buying a used one and not knowing what may have been spilt or leaked on the floors during their working life, might be what online people are referring to. My friends container was bought used and has actual lumber, maybe 2 x 12s treated boards and I have heard that treated wood is meant for outdoor use only.
Maybe in some instances but others think it's the chemical applied at the factory that's toxic. Don't use used containers for container homes. Silly to waste all that money on something that won't last.
I suppose the larger block placed underneath could have been used to push out a flooring section. I kept thinking of how the hand signals to lower the box were not clear and fool proof, so losing an arm could happen.
The cat was 3/4 froze to death on the side of the road when we rescued it and happy and healthy now with a couple dozen owners that love her too much and should get back to work 😂
Pro tip use a thin angle grinder blade to cut the old screw head into a flathead it breaks the tension between the counter sink as well then a decent large flathead followed by a couple taps with a hammer this does render the old flooring pretty useless on the one side though but I live on the coast and just done up a container that has set for 12 years this track work to treat to remove the fully rotten ply and rusted screws
It's $279 for only one bracket/lug only without the jack, which is crazy. I see another brand charging $42 for a jack lug with the jack, which makes it $168+ to lift all corners simultaneously.
I've been eating container flooring for years, and I'm fine!
🤣😂
Ha ha ha...everything is toxic according to the gurus....
Wouldn’t be Christmas without it…
I love these vidz, but I did not expect to get a good laugh at the end out of 'do not eat your floor boards' - bonus ball!
Myths are bad. Thank you for fixing that. You made floor removal easy.
Interesting to finally see a study done on the alleged toxicity of the container floors. I epoxy sealed my entire container home's floor because of the claims that pesticides used ln the floorboards could off gas toxicity.
Ditto, I was told that the manifest sheet on the side of the container tells you what chemiclas were used in the container to prevent pests and rodents so I had planned on removing all of my floors. I had my first container floor epoxied as well but now I'm glad to find out that I don't have to remove the flooring of my other containers.
I use a HiLift Jack to raise the container or lift a corner.
Thanks for destroying that myth. Well that went a whole lot better than I expected it to, good job!
Definitely the best source for container mod information on the internet. Wish you were here in the mountains of Virginia.
Wow, thanks!
Ive worked in and around containers for years and I have owned 2. If you intend to live in or store soft goods in one you should have a plan for mitigating the "toxic" smell/ oder, because it will permeate whatever you store in it. If you store soft goods like cloths and dont have them sealed and protected they will end up smelling like the floor of a container. I like the bamboo floors as they dont have an oder like the chemicaly treated floors. Posibly because they have a polyurethane seal on top. Just my 2 cents.
Iived permanently +5 years in these boxes, new and very old one. Never had any issues, except for moisture which is handled efficiently by Meaco dehumidifier.
I really enjoy your information that will be helpful for me not to learn the hard way. I am still living in my car but saving my money to be in a better place in another year when my daughter moves over. The floor has been an issue in some of our ideas for a layout with joining 3 side by side. Thinking of a raised floor on the middle section.
I recommend High Cube if possible, the extra height makes a huge difference. Don't weld any fixture for framing/plating! Just make an wooden H shaped
construction and hold it place with the top beams. We made hundreds of these insulated constructions... Insane what extra work even professionals are wasting on that widespread basic misconception!
I was happy to see the plywood isn't listed as toxic. However, my containers were used for tires and tractor parts. Without sealing the odor of oil and rubber is pronounced. So, the initial plywood might be 'okay' but many are chemically treated for insects.
So, the same reason I don't direct contact pressure treated lumber, I would not direct contact shipping container plywood. I intend to paint with Kilz then skim coat the plywood and tile.
Excellent vid and info as per usual. Thank you for posting this up! I wish you were located closer to the 808.
Thanks for posting about the myth!
I like your videos. You do a good job at it and you have a great personality for communicating with viewers. I must say though I find your hardware prices strikingly high relative to the same or similar items available elsewhere on the internet. If you can continue to sell hardware at more than twice the price of others, I guess it's all good, at least for you all.
Thank you so much for all the great ideas. Thank you for sharing
Excellent video. If you position that ring toward the corner and ratcheted it up it might pop it up easier. Then get yourself a Burke Bar. Best pry bar known to man. Once you pop a corner up with a 1/4" gap that Burke Bar will do the rest.
Yeah after watching it, we definitely realized there are better ways. We weren't expecting it to work.. just an experiment that ended up working
Great stuff guys‼️
The ratchet strap method works , but did you ever think to use a come along ? I think that it would make pretty quick work of those floor boards.
We repair hundreds of shipping containers yearly, including smashed flooring. Never had any issues lifting these boards or exchanging parts of destroyed flooring. Suits evenly... Eventually drill new holes and remember to seal efficiently.
Just subscribed. I have seen a couple of your videos and I think you are doing something great
Thank you very much
The floor looks good as a hempcrete guide. I reckon you could put hempcrete in the container and put tiles down for hot environments
And use those floor boards as for wall guides extending the building
I really enjoy your videos!!
Good idea 💡
About the floor, what I heard is that chemicals could be spilled that makes them unsafe. But I did not hear the flooring itself was unsafe. But if it had a spill, that would seam to be evident by either smell or staining the flooring.
I'm building a house out of 2forty foot container and need to know if I need to add extra strength to the container beams along the bottom of the container
So when you remove the flooring you can then insulate the floor? Because you can not insulate from the bottom there will be a vacant area in there? Or is it possible to just spray foam the bottom and your done? Do you think i will need to insulate the floor living in Rosarito México? Its always 50-80 degrees all year round mostly 69 degrees here most everyday thanks love your videos i never wanted to believe that the floors are toxic but i see they are toxic but we eat a lot of tacos so i think we will be fine and we wont have much to walk on if we do keep eating the floors
I missed it in your video. Are those floor joists I beams or C channels? 1 of my sea cans mice are coming through the floor at my farm. I was thinking of removing the plywood and cutting it into strips to drop into the bottom of the I beams and silicone around them to seal up then start filling the channels with quikrete. I seriously doubt mice will chew through that much steel and concrete to get in again. But if its C channel I'll need to secure one side of the plywood with screws through the channel.
Overall a great video. It is hugely helpful to see how to remove that flooring.❤
Thanks for busting the myth. Can you go over the different and easiest interior diy wall for a container home? Aside from dry wall. Thanks
The PVC wall panels that we use all the time are for people who don't know how to drywall. Screw them on and you're done. Already white.. no mudding, no taping, no sanding, no painting.. waterproof finish. Can't ask for more than that.
Always wondered what it looked like underneath the floor
Ask the local rats and mice..
I see you have a way to jack corners can you add wheels to the corner for temp moving containers without a lift
In the factory floor the castor wheels are locked to the bottom of the corner casting hole to move it in the assembly line. You can do the same.
thanks for the very useful video
what would the best way for a normal guy to insulate the floor?
set it up on a bunch of blocks and crawl under and put mineral wool?
use a forklift and lift it up and have a spray foam guy get underneath?
both of these ideas sound super risky to me
any experts?
2" rigid foam on top of the container floor, tape the seams, install 5/8" T&G plywood subfloor on top (screw down through foam into the container floor), install flooring on top of subfloor, build walls directly on top of the new flooring. Leave everything 1" away from the walls. Spray foam insulate.
@@TheContainerGuyTV great answer ... no need to mess with the floors if you don't have to
Tilt the box ~30 degrees with a plain "coffee mill" jack. Support with suitable steel fixture for personal safety. Isolate with Styrofoam or whatever preferred...
Seal of the whole bottom with blind riveted ~1mm galvanised sheet against pests.
We made hundreds of these constructions for industrial use in Scandinavia..
I just got a used container with a few cracked spots. No way the philips head screws are coming out. I just cut all the screws off a rusty truckbed recently. Im not doing that again... Going to cover it all in 1/2 plywood, and maybe epoxy floor paint.
1:28 I just put a eye bolt @ top & bottom & then attached a 2x4 to them
nice thanks!
Do you have a link for the attachment for jacking the container ?
another great vid, thanks for sharing. Instead of the ratchet straps, you could just put the d rings on each side, then two guys with big crowbars or pips stick them inside d rings and use it like a fulcrum to lift up the piece of wood?
i've had plenty of stripped phillips over the years not as much torx, suprised whent back to phillips
Agreed
Seems like the ratchet straps work but I gotta believe most people buying shipping containers have a come along laying around.
Thank You.....
Use the osolating tool with a scraper blade to cut out any caulking. Custs like butter. Save the ute knife..
Do you recommend use a epoxy over that floor?
Yes, we use anti-slip epoxy paint quite often for industrial mods
Keep in mind that on these floors on the centerpieces and on the edges they router down a section from front to back about 1/16th to 1/8 of an inch thick on the bottom of the panels so they will sit flush. On the edges underneath the floor and in the center there is about a 1/8 inch thick piece of flat strap metal going from front to back and in order for the panel to sit fully flush the plywood panels on the bottom are routered down.
So since its not haz can i just use water sealant or have to use epoxy
Great video bud! Hey we have a container that we converted into a bike repair shop. The floor was epoxy painted but now we are having an issue with a dark oily substance seeping up through the floor. We cut out a section of the floor and found that the bottom of the container was coated with a tar type of substance. Is there something we can do to prevent the seepage without having to replace the floor? Thanks
Weird that it's seeping upwards. Not really how gravity works. Must be catching a ride with water or something. Is the container sitting directly on the ground? If so, try getting it up on blocking to air out the underside.
The floor provides major lateral bracing! Think twice before removing
we used crow bars. me and another welder unscrewed a 40 footer and removed all the flooring in 30 minutes. but no joke it was rough
What bit do I need to undo these?
عمل جميل شكرا لك
Is it safe to insulate the container from underneath?
We spray foam the underside all the time.
We insulate with Styrofoam and close with galvanised sheet against pests.
safety glasses guys👍🏻
When pulling up flooring. Use better straps. Pick up at Truck travel centers. Not the ones at harbor freight or hardware store.
That's what I said in the video. Use 2" straps.
Spent a few years replacing damaged floors in shipping containers.
? does it contain formaldehyde in the wood glue?
Who cares. Don't eat it and you'll be fine.
The myth isn't actually a myth but more the usual confusion of facts. A 'one tripper' will usually have a safe floor but where the actual concern comes from is the used/well used containers that could have been used for transport and/or storage of highly toxic chemicals and products that would have contaminated the floorboards. Some companies keep strict records of items transported with these containers but if the container was used as extra storage at some location using extremely toxic products, there's no enforcement on logs so you'll never know.
There's no way to insulate under the wood floors without removing them?
Easy to insulate under without removing the floor. Block the container up and spray foam them.
Tilt the box ~30 degrees with plain "coffee mill" jack and fix it for personal safety..
Thankyou for providing information. It is too bad you do not offer container services in the US, specifically VA. There seems a wash of internet container companies across the US. Mis advertising, not disclosing full pricing, transportation costs... I am interested in the purchase of some containers and may transport them myself... but I can not get a depot price to understand the markup in price. I am willing to pay a fair price for me not a good price to the "broker " who has no controll on the quality. The "shipping container transportation seems more then the container cost, great gig. Thanks for your information. Additional information on how to move/load them ourselves would be helpful. At least not what to do.
So, this isn't acceptable as a high fiber diet?
When you innovate your whole floor removal process with a single tie strap and free up all of your heavy equipment of other work around the yard.
part of the floor issue - is if it soaks up chemical spills.. likwe a 50 gallon drunm of cyanide lleaking..
Would be pretty obvious on a new container (only used once). People should be using one time use containers if they are building a house out of it.
Will needs some new boots 😄
Haha he finally got some. Been 2 weeks of blisters in the scorching heat 🤬
I suggest not standing on the floor panel you are trying to lift. Also cutting around all four edges of caulk before you try to lift the panel.
I love this channel for all the amazing feedback 🤠
You never addressed the rumours about wood flooring being impregnated with toxic insecticides, fungicides, and rodenticides (is that even a word?), and the dangers with offgassing of these toxic chemicals.
Yeah agent orange was perfectly safe too.
Over 9 minutes before any attempt was made to remove a single piece of flooring. Does everyone know to remove all the screws? Does everyone know how to tell a phillips head from a torx head?
@@Jim-h9u 3 mins
Come a long would work well
Question _Are your D rings strong enough to hold a moving ladder with a 200 lb. Person?
Yes
Where's the volume?!
Right side of your phone 🤳
@@TheContainerGuyTV I know that! I had my volume up all the way. But couldn't hear your video. Usually I have no problem. I like watching your videos.
🙂
Do not eat the chinese plywood, amazing that you had to say that....
Buying a used one and not knowing what may have been spilt or leaked on the floors during their working life, might be what online people are referring to. My friends container was bought used and has actual lumber, maybe 2 x 12s treated boards and I have heard that treated wood is meant for outdoor use only.
Maybe in some instances but others think it's the chemical applied at the factory that's toxic. Don't use used containers for container homes. Silly to waste all that money on something that won't last.
06:16 WTF???!!!!!!!!
Yes, haphazardly reaching under while lowering the box, and the block should only go under corner brackets.
I suppose the larger block placed underneath could have been used to push out a flooring section. I kept thinking of how the hand signals to lower the box were not clear and fool proof, so losing an arm could happen.
Did Shop Cat approve?
100%. Our staff thinks the cat deserves its own video haha. Be funny to strap a GoPro to it and see what it gets up to in a day.
x1 Twist 'N' Jack 280€!??!?!?!?!?
I can weld two with my self $10 worth of scrap steel.
Guys the price is outrageously high!
The scrap steel pile eventually runs out. Engineers don't stamp scrap either.
We don't sell in Euro so that price may be what Amazon is charging.
I like my floor with ketchup.
The kitty cat looks unhealthy and hungry. Please take it inside and feed it.
The cat was 3/4 froze to death on the side of the road when we rescued it and happy and healthy now with a couple dozen owners that love her too much and should get back to work 😂
Philips head, the worst of the worst
I'd like to meet Philip
Pro tip use a thin angle grinder blade to cut the old screw head into a flathead it breaks the tension between the counter sink as well then a decent large flathead followed by a couple taps with a hammer
this does render the old flooring pretty useless on the one side though but I live on the coast and just done up a container that has set for 12 years this track work to treat to remove the fully rotten ply and rusted screws
$279 for 1? Or a set of 4? Amazon doesn't specify. Thx
Are you referring to the Twist N Jack container lifters?
@@TheContainerGuyTV yes
Wow yes Amazon charges $280 USD. for this twist jack that's nuts
It's $279 for only one bracket/lug only without the jack, which is crazy. I see another brand charging $42 for a jack lug with the jack, which makes it $168+ to lift all corners simultaneously.