I've heard the name "masters mix" mentioned so many times on other mushroom growing channels. I had no idea you invented and coined the name until this video got recommended to me by TH-cam!
Now this will really make you blush... i am in Australia and have just got into mycology, i bought some substrate for my first grow as i didn't have a pressure cooker at that point, so i bought some from ebay, thinking that the type i am growing likes a hardwood substrate i went with that, when it arrived you can guess what the label said on it... yep... masters mix haha. I don't know if it contained soy bean hulls, it looked just like dark saw dust (i am a carpenter) but i thought you would laugh at that 😂
I can not believe how you share your precious know how about growing mushrooms. So valuable gift for humanity :) It would be great to make a video about how you mix the masters mix. The mixing method, total weight of bags or any other parameters that i can not even imagine :) A honest thank you in advance.
Hello, I am also from Missouri and cotton is definitely grown here. The bootheel is actually a very important cotton growing region in the US and one of the major crops down there in our highest yielding area in the entire state
I was meaning not to the extent of real cotton producing states. There is no real cotton industry that would support oil mills. Which is where you get cotton seed hulls.
I'm currently in the middle of corn & soybean country. I wish they weren't all GMOs sprayed with weed killers. Thanks for sharing your mix and videos!!
Hey T.R. love your channel. I have a quick question. What's the ratio you recommend interms of spawn to substrate? I'm doing 4lbs of spawn to 100lbs dry weight of substrate. It works for me but I know it could be contributing to the time it takes to fruit and my contam levels. What do you think is best? Growing oyster btw
I grow mostly for myself and I tried straw because my friend gave me a few cubic feet. I was using sterilized hwfp and bran only since I started. It was a f****** mess trying to do it in my apartment with hydrated lime. I couldn't figure out how to dry it and I ended up dumping it in the bath tub to dry. It's also extremely filthy and I have little wheat plants sprouting in the bags. Somehow I managed not to contaminate all my bags and buckets despite the filth. Almost two weeks later it's still everywhere even after vacuuming it several times. My cats always tracking it into the bed. Also for the longest time I was wondering what was in this masters mix stuff people kept talking about. I've been meaning to get myself some soybean hulls for the longest. After my straw experience I'm sticking with my HWFP and sterilized bran bags.
@Earth Angel Mushrooms ... would using softened water in substrate be a big no no? I feel like the sodium would mess things up from growing. what about non softened well water with a high nitrate content? .. mycelia will feed on nitrates but so will bacteria. .. thanks in advance and super thanks for taking the time to share your knowledge.
Hello, one question, accualy 2. I am from Slovenia and it is realy hard to get soybean hulls in our county. can i use wheat instead or any other? We have a sawmill at home, so i have a lot of fresh beach sawdust. but i am a bit confused to use volume or weigt %. or i need to dry sawdust that i can get equal ammount of sawdust and soybean hulls (or wheat if possible)
Hi TR, I'm just getting into this stuff, can I just "cook" the sawdust and soybean in the pressure cooker along with water for 30 mins at 15psi? Wouldn't that sterilize the substrate better? Then dry off the substrate till it has required moisture for bagging?
Hello there! I've got question to you maestro , which way is better to hang bags or to put them on shelves ? I want to start my journey with mushrooms . I have around 26-29 m2 room for this and I don't know which way to do it . Thank you!
I'm having difficulty finding soybean hulls in my area unless I buy by the ton however wheat bran is easily available. would this be a suitable replacement and should I change the ratios?
Do you know if the use of soy hulls can transmit the thyroid issues that soy can cause through to the mushrooms? Thanks for the informative video. I really appreciate it.
ICopiedJohnOswald softwood is pretty trashy. Phoenix oyster likes it as well as reishi and some others. You can try it. There’s nothing in softwood that would kill mycelium outright, they just don’t like it.
Hey TR, I just started growing on sawdust and bran a couple months ago with a presto p.c.and want to up my production without having to use more energy and or buying a huge barrel steamer. Aloha medicinals has done tests on straw, chopped vs whole, and different ways of pasteuizing. They say that chopped straw pasteurized with wood ash gives the best B.E. and cheapest way for a farmer to grow. Have you seen this info they have put out? I'm wanting give it a go but you and Myers and Jewell all say blocks are way better. Can you give any more clarification on this? It seems a lot of people say oysters do awesome on straw. Thx man, just trying to make sense of all this before I commit to one way or the other
Earth Angel Mushrooms Why yes you did, you said it was messy and it didn't grow well. That's why I'm asking YOU, in particular about it because it goes against other wisdom that says straw is excellent for oysters. Since you did so much experimenting with "masters mix" to perfect it I assumed you did some experimenting on different methods with straw. I haven't seen anyone put out a video comparing sawdust vs straw. Just people promoting either side. I get the messy aspect for you it just "seems" to me that it would be so much cheaper to do straw pasteurized with lime, because you cut out the cost of so much big equipment to where the only extra cost for straw is the added spawn since it's used as a higher rate. I don't expect you to write a book on here about it. Maybe a good idea for making a video. Or maybe I don't make any sense lol
There is absolutely no comparison in regards to the economics of straw compared to sawdust and soybean hulls.... yield alone destroys straw, then there is the space savings. The list goes on and on.
When you mix shiitake spawn with GMO soy hulls it makes a mutant strain that eats unicorn bags. So the only way to grow shiitake on masters mix is using 5 gallon buckets.
well I haven't been able to find a reliable source for soybeans hulls which seems odd to me I used to live in Audrain Missouri which was like the soybean capital of the state you know but I haven't been able to find a feed store anything that has it around here so I've been using cottonseed holes cuz I managed to find those at a local feed store oh I almost forgot my point I was thinking all that bacteria was more me but I guess I'm probably just going to have to change up and try and look a little harder which I'm only running hobby right now you know but I see potential and really like mushrooms you know
What else do you grow on this? I'm mostly interested in species that conventionally do best on supplemented sawdust -- black poplar, lion's mane, king oyster. I will definitely give this a try with Calocybe indica when it warms up.
I am starting to experiment with mushrooms in West Africa oysters, lion's mane, shitake and button (on decomp. manure and straw). We don't have oak sawdust for one, so I am trying other tropical timbers. Also we don't have soy hulls/bran. I am trying out millet and sorghum bran and will try a "master's mix" with millet bran and eucalyptus sawdust. Any ideas or support would be greatly appreciated!
Straw is definitely a mess. I haven’t used it in more than 10 years yet. I still get yelled at about it because it still showing up in my sisters car. I switched over to brown rice hulls it’s amazing.
Came here from Tony and Tegan's (FreshCap Mushrooms) vid, where he explained about your mix. Kudos!!! And then I see another mushroom farmer who's videos I also watch (What The Fungus with Brian and Faith) is in the comments. Stoked. Thank you Sir, we really appreciate you and all of your trials, and are very thankful that you choose to share it.
Hello, I am from Iran. In Iran, there is soybean meal that has 45% protein. The soybean pellet that you use has a lower percentage of protein, and of course your soybeans have higher fiber. Do you think it is suitable for the 50.50 formula?
Haha! Great video! Theres a saying - the squeaky wheel gets the grease. Looks to me like that big mouth of yours paid off with the name "master mix". I'd say well deserved. Sweet operation you've got going on. Peace and love from Luton, UK
Ive watched a lot of sites now and have not had this question answered---instead of all the bags where you get a few mushrooms from a hole here and there, and the nutrients are used up; after a few growths---why not just have long open 3 inch deep flat trays so that fruit can grow on every inch of it?? And cant you spray fertilizer on the substrate to keep it viable and let some mature shrooms stay there and keep dropping sores on it?
I've heard the name "masters mix" mentioned so many times on other mushroom growing channels. I had no idea you invented and coined the name until this video got recommended to me by TH-cam!
Thank you so much for sharing your experience and knowledge.
We need more people like you, honest and unselfish.
Nothing but love for your work TR! Adding this to my mushroom playlist n hitting the like button
Now this will really make you blush...
i am in Australia and have just got into mycology, i bought some substrate for my first grow as i didn't have a pressure cooker at that point, so i bought some from ebay, thinking that the type i am growing likes a hardwood substrate i went with that, when it arrived you can guess what the label said on it... yep... masters mix haha.
I don't know if it contained soy bean hulls, it looked just like dark saw dust (i am a carpenter) but i thought you would laugh at that 😂
can you do a video on the master of master mixes next
WHAT THE FUNGUS I'll think aboot it
@@earthangelmushrooms2118 this video gets a thumbs down then, useless
@@Joe-mf9zz 450 grams soy hulls
450 grams hardwood fuel pellets
1.4 litres water
Here in Philippines we got a tons and tons of soybean farm they also used an organic fertilizer in it. We can get the soybean hulls for free.
Loving this content and happy to see you comfy in front of the camera!!!🍄💚mush-love
I can not believe how you share your precious know how about growing mushrooms. So valuable gift for humanity :)
It would be great to make a video about how you mix the masters mix. The mixing method, total weight of bags or any other parameters that i can not even imagine :)
A honest thank you in advance.
Başkan, devam mı yetiştiriciliğe? Ne durumdasın?
THIS is the video that changed the game forever!!
Thank you TR awesome videos!
Awesome story!!!
Hello, I am also from Missouri and cotton is definitely grown here. The bootheel is actually a very important cotton growing region in the US and one of the major crops down there in our highest yielding area in the entire state
I was meaning not to the extent of real cotton producing states. There is no real cotton industry that would support oil mills. Which is where you get cotton seed hulls.
I'm currently in the middle of corn & soybean country.
I wish they weren't all GMOs sprayed with weed killers.
Thanks for sharing your mix and videos!!
The straw that wiped the camel's backside
Your a Rock star !!!! Awesome info thanks !!!
YAY can't wait to try this. I live in a TX farm town so should be an easy find. Can't wait to try this one out.
Excited to see what 'the masters' using to humidify his fruiting rooms 👨🌾🍄
Nice homie.
Don't know that I'll ever be doing what you are but thanks for sharing.
Thank you.
More info on your shiitake mix!!!
Do you add any wheat bran? Also would you mind sharing your substrate recipe for shiitake?
what substrate do you grow shiitakes on?
One that shiitake really love😉
@@earthangelmushrooms2118 lol masters mix #2
Subscribed! Dude, you're rockin it!!
Great background story, let's us noobs what to be wary of.
Hey T.R. love your channel. I have a quick question. What's the ratio you recommend interms of spawn to substrate? I'm doing 4lbs of spawn to 100lbs dry weight of substrate. It works for me but I know it could be contributing to the time it takes to fruit and my contam levels. What do you think is best? Growing oyster btw
I grow mostly for myself and I tried straw because my friend gave me a few cubic feet. I was using sterilized hwfp and bran only since I started. It was a f****** mess trying to do it in my apartment with hydrated lime. I couldn't figure out how to dry it and I ended up dumping it in the bath tub to dry. It's also extremely filthy and I have little wheat plants sprouting in the bags. Somehow I managed not to contaminate all my bags and buckets despite the filth. Almost two weeks later it's still everywhere even after vacuuming it several times. My cats always tracking it into the bed. Also for the longest time I was wondering what was in this masters mix stuff people kept talking about. I've been meaning to get myself some soybean hulls for the longest. After my straw experience I'm sticking with my HWFP and sterilized bran bags.
All the way from South Africa - only clicked on this video because I know the Masters Mix - never even heard of you.
Another South African here, busy setting up to sell master mix
Can I replace soy husk pellets with sunflower husk pellets and keep masters mix the same best growing properties? tks .
Do the soybean hulls need to be organic?
Awesome video, thank you. Quick one, what would the masters mix be for a project of 200 bags to grow oyster?
What is the ratio of soybean hulls, hard wood pellets and wheat bran for growing shiitakes and portobellos?
Lmao awesome bathroom story dude...😂
Does master's mix work on Button mushrooms
@Earth Angel Mushrooms ... would using softened water in substrate be a big no no? I feel like the sodium would mess things up from growing.
what about non softened well water with a high nitrate content? .. mycelia will feed on nitrates but so will bacteria.
.. thanks in advance and super thanks for taking the time to share your knowledge.
Are your wooden racks made from treated wood? Wood pellets, how do they make them and if a glue is used, do you know it's food safe glue?
Hello, one question, accualy 2. I am from Slovenia and it is realy hard to get soybean hulls in our county. can i use wheat instead or any other? We have a sawmill at home, so i have a lot of fresh beach sawdust. but i am a bit confused to use volume or weigt %. or i need to dry sawdust that i can get equal ammount of sawdust and soybean hulls (or wheat if possible)
Thanks for that info.
Will it work on Cubensis?
hey, I can't locate soybean hulls any where in Portland, OR. Closest thing I could find is soybean meal. Can I use this instead?
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Have you experimented with pasteurizing soya hulls?
The growing room what kind of aircon you use? How many ton capacity.? Thanks
Hi TR, I'm just getting into this stuff, can I just "cook" the sawdust and soybean in the pressure cooker along with water for 30 mins at 15psi? Wouldn't that sterilize the substrate better? Then dry off the substrate till it has required moisture for bagging?
Hello there! I've got question to you maestro , which way is better to hang bags or to put them on shelves ? I want to start my journey with mushrooms . I have around 26-29 m2 room for this and I don't know which way to do it . Thank you!
I'm having difficulty finding soybean hulls in my area unless I buy by the ton however wheat bran is easily available. would this be a suitable replacement and should I change the ratios?
What is your average first flush yield per lb of substrate?
16
Anybody tried grind up corn halls
Is there another good replacement for soy hulls.? Its not that avaliable on my country. Also, why shitakes dont like masters mix?
Hay T.R. I'm still doing research before diving in. What kind of saw dust? Hardwood? Soft? Or irrelevant?
I only have experience with oak and eucalyptus. With limited experience in others.
Can wheat straw and soyabean hull be mixed for substrate sir ?
He's the guy who cuts mold out with a spoon and continues the batch? Unsafe.
your mix of 50 % sbh and 50 % SD then you said 60% water is that by weight volume or % of moisture Thank You
It should be % of water to the wet weight, so a 10 lb block contains 6 lb water, 2lb SD 2 lb SBH
Do you know if the use of soy hulls can transmit the thyroid issues that soy can cause through to the mushrooms? Thanks for the informative video. I really appreciate it.
I'm not sure
Is that red wood saw dust or any sawdust?
Would sunlight be alright for growing enoki mushrooms?
What do you think about adding gypsum to your masters and if you do . What percentage do you add ?
I don't add gypsum.
First thank you for making me aware of this masters mix but, What's the ratio ?
Doku 007 in the video he said 50/50 sawdust to soy hulls with 60% water
Would soybean hull pellets be the same thing?
Have you ever tried rice hulls?
What sawdust do you use. Where I am I can pretty much only source pine?
I use oak sawdust.
Ima start callin you reddog
how much your fee to train one on one
What kind of wood is the saw dust does it matter?
I use oak. Sawdust does make a difference. You want to stay away from pine. I also have some experience using Eucalyptus, which mushrooms like also.
Do you source hardwood sawdust specifically or can you use softwood in the Masters mix?
Ive never used soft wood. I would assume it would work just fine.
ICopiedJohnOswald softwood is pretty trashy. Phoenix oyster likes it as well as reishi and some others. You can try it. There’s nothing in softwood that would kill mycelium outright, they just don’t like it.
@@Dollapfin Some softwoods actually have anti fungal properties. This is why most myc won't take to it.
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You can thank Monsanto for all of your "clean", readily available soybean hulls. Are your mushrooms now all "RoundupReady"?
Hey TR,
I just started growing on sawdust and bran a couple months ago with a presto p.c.and want to up my production without having to use more energy and or buying a huge barrel steamer. Aloha medicinals has done tests on straw, chopped vs whole, and different ways of pasteuizing. They say that chopped straw pasteurized with wood ash gives the best B.E. and cheapest way for a farmer to grow. Have you seen this info they have put out? I'm wanting give it a go but you and Myers and Jewell all say blocks are way better. Can you give any more clarification on this? It seems a lot of people say oysters do awesome on straw. Thx man, just trying to make sense of all this before I commit to one way or the other
AB Brockus didn't I mention straw in the video???
Earth Angel Mushrooms
Why yes you did, you said it was messy and it didn't grow well. That's why I'm asking YOU, in particular about it because it goes against other wisdom that says straw is excellent for oysters. Since you did so much experimenting with "masters mix" to perfect it I assumed you did some experimenting on different methods with straw. I haven't seen anyone put out a video comparing sawdust vs straw. Just people promoting either side. I get the messy aspect for you it just "seems" to me that it would be so much cheaper to do straw pasteurized with lime, because you cut out the cost of so much big equipment to where the only extra cost for straw is the added spawn since it's used as a higher rate. I don't expect you to write a book on here about it. Maybe a good idea for making a video. Or maybe I don't make any sense lol
There is absolutely no comparison in regards to the economics of straw compared to sawdust and soybean hulls.... yield alone destroys straw, then there is the space savings. The list goes on and on.
Earth Angel Mushrooms
Would you say yield per dollar spent, yield per sq. ft of space, or B.E.?
I'd be more than happy to answer questions like these, if I were being paid as a consultant. Until then, videos are all you will get 😉
👍🏽
Where can I order soybean hulls
hello, how much carbon dioxide you have in the hall
Yeah, but are soybean hulls ever available?
Is that treated lumber ?
NO
Any ideas where I can find soybean hull pellets? What comes up is animal feed and I'm not sure if its got something added🤷
Sbh are a byproduct of the soy oil process. They are used almost exclusively for animal feed......... and mushrooms growing.
I got mine from👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼
#Mycojims#
hes on instagram¿
Best 🔌on all 💊🍄
Coconut coi?
Did you find the answer?😂
Zero growth with shiitake on master's mix?
When you mix shiitake spawn with GMO soy hulls it makes a mutant strain that eats unicorn bags. So the only way to grow shiitake on masters mix is using 5 gallon buckets.
just not good growth
Satan's substrate 😂😂.. Perhaps I won't start with straw then😂
That's funny.
😂😁
this guy talks like Obama
best comment haha so true!
Ive heard this multiple times. I guess he doesnt have a bad voice. I'll take that as a compliment.
Well done HBK growing mushrooms after leaving WWE.
nahh just joking.
Soy bean hulls haven’t a clue where to buy in Victoria Australia
Maxisoy horse feed $38 a bag here in Aus. Got it from a local agricultural shop. You can also find online.
well I haven't been able to find a reliable source for soybeans hulls which seems odd to me I used to live in Audrain Missouri which was like the soybean capital of the state you know but I haven't been able to find a feed store anything that has it around here so I've been using cottonseed holes cuz I managed to find those at a local feed store oh I almost forgot my point I was thinking all that bacteria was more me but I guess I'm probably just going to have to change up and try and look a little harder which I'm only running hobby right now you know but I see potential and really like mushrooms you know
Man your really tall
In my country it is very difficult to find soybeans hulls. Is there anything similar to mix with sawdust? In what ratio?
Ive heard of some folks using beet pulp
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I was shocked how cheap soybean hulls are. I got a 40 lb bag at my feed mill for $11.
What else do you grow on this? I'm mostly interested in species that conventionally do best on supplemented sawdust -- black poplar, lion's mane, king oyster. I will definitely give this a try with Calocybe indica when it warms up.
I am starting to experiment with mushrooms in West Africa oysters, lion's mane, shitake and button (on decomp. manure and straw). We don't have oak sawdust for one, so I am trying other tropical timbers. Also we don't have soy hulls/bran. I am trying out millet and sorghum bran and will try a "master's mix" with millet bran and eucalyptus sawdust. Any ideas or support would be greatly appreciated!
Straw is definitely a mess. I haven’t used it in more than 10 years yet. I still get yelled at about it because it still showing up in my sisters car. I switched over to brown rice hulls it’s amazing.
We don't have Soybean hullets overhere. Is soja schred also good? Thx
Where do you get soybean hulls in Missouri?
What % is the oyster mushroom spawn for each block?
10% is standard minimum
Came here from Tony and Tegan's (FreshCap Mushrooms) vid, where he explained about your mix. Kudos!!! And then I see another mushroom farmer who's videos I also watch (What The Fungus with Brian and Faith) is in the comments. Stoked. Thank you Sir, we really appreciate you and all of your trials, and are very thankful that you choose to share it.
you gotta let go of these giant bags bro. I'm getting up to 2+lb off 5lb bags. average around 1.5.
drakes89 I'm averaging over 2lb. Being as it you are one of the brightest business men I know in the industry, you work out the numbers.
Great video!
Where can we get a sweatshirt? I'd wear it on my videos.
An American Homestead email me earthangelmushrooms@gmail.com
Hello, I am from Iran. In Iran, there is soybean meal that has 45% protein. The soybean pellet that you use has a lower percentage of protein, and of course your soybeans have higher fiber. Do you think it is suitable for the 50.50 formula?
Haha! Great video! Theres a saying - the squeaky wheel gets the grease. Looks to me like that big mouth of yours paid off with the name "master mix". I'd say well deserved. Sweet operation you've got going on. Peace and love from Luton, UK
i'm hearing a metallica song in my head but the title is "master of fungus". :)
Ive watched a lot of sites now and have not had this question answered---instead of all the bags where you get a few mushrooms from a hole here and there, and the nutrients are used up; after a few growths---why not just have long open 3 inch deep flat trays so that fruit can grow on every inch of it?? And cant you spray fertilizer on the substrate to keep it viable and let some mature shrooms stay there and keep dropping sores on it?
Damn you! We call it masters mix down in mexico too. I give you all the credit
dont. it's not his mix.
Brilliant info mate, I have been looking for new substrate to try, Here in Thailand they complicate the additives and overkill what they put in.