I would love to see the cost breakdown per block to operate. Seems to me...and I could be wrong...that the fuel cost would outweigh the advantages of being able to do larger numbers because of the inefficiency of not being able to reach 15-20 psi?
Love these build vids, keep them coming! I used a fireproof expanding foam to stick the insulation boards to our steamer, works a treat. Holding up 1 year later doing weekly cooks - though not doing anywhere near as many blocks as you!
Excellent design brother (This is Kiefer btw) whenever you see comments from Linda Bonomo it's Kiefer Myers on my wife's TH-cam account. I use a sauna steam generator, an aluminum shelving unit 8ftx2ftx4ft, and a custom 40oz neoprene cover strapped over it on gaskets. It's a design inspired by Cyrus Lester with a few modifications. 14-16 hours and it rolls into and out of the lab. We only do 120 bags a week but that's plenty right now because I have no employees. $1200 total for the design and it holds a max of 180 10 lb blocks.
We stuck our polyiso to our milk tanks using cans of greatstuff polyiso spray foam. Worked great. Make sure its the same 200+F rated foam spray not low temp sprayfoam. Most of the stuff on the hardware store shelves is polyiso high temp rated foam spray (various brands). We also used brass gate valves for cold hepa air input and vents. We run cold water through the milk tank cooling coils. We gave up on a big metal box idea (gasket leaking issues) and use single lid giant milk tanks instead (200 bags a tank). Soo much better. Don't forget the UVc in the fogger tank. ;-)
Wassup brother, I appreciate all you do, (GREAT VIDEOS), although I've watched all of your videos numerous times, curious about the one, where you said you was gonna start making your own bags, because of filter patch issues...
Great video and awesome sterilizer, it's huge but i have a question, in smaller sterilization setups why do some people use a boiler connected to a trough for atmospheric sterilization, doesn't it make more sense to boil water in the trough with a burner underneath? I do this with a steel drum and at least at the top the steam easily gets to 300f.
@@earthangelmushrooms2118 there is an exception to this, steam can be 'superheated' after it's produced but it's not good for our application, it doesnt give to it's heat as easily. It's also called 'dry steam'. All that said, you can not directly produce superheated steam from a open boiler, it requires a superheating exchanger section. Fun stuff thanks for sharing.
@@CMZneu maybe ur thermometer is touching the metal parts. If you use a burner, the metal parts temp can easily exceed the temp of boiling water. You have to make sure u are measuring the temperature of the steam/air inside, not the temp of the barrel walls, so your termomether absolutely must not touch any metal parts.
@@Quiablo it's a bimetal oven thermometer so it's hard for it to not be touching the steel drum since it has to be screwed to it, the drum has a good amount of glass wool insulation around 80% of the sides and the lid, but the thermometer is near the lid so it's as far as possible from the burner. I've done test with supplemented sawdust filling a sealed jar 1/4 of the way and left them for months and there never was any visible sight of contam, and i opened a closed a few for a few seconds and sure enough contam got in a grew as expected so it's at least sterilizing quite well at whatever temp it does reach.
Great video, I’m currently testing out an insulated and waterproof cinder block unit to fit all my bags in. I don’t see anyone else doing this so I hope it works. I just have a question about what is your source of pressurised steam? Do you use a boiler? Or a DIY unit? Thanks
Cant u use polyurethane foam to stick the insulation to the walls? If there are no leaks, polyurethane should be pretty stable at those temps. Is will not behave well if there is hot steam blowing on it though.
Use a insulation like this with steel studs. You can screw the studs to the box and they won't fall off because of the glue failing. It is sold at Menards. Johns Manville TempControl® R-23 Mineral Wool Insulation Batt 15.25" x 47" (24.9 sq ft)
I have build a couple steam cabinets but I am just starting to probe the substrate (masters mix) to hold at 95c (203F). How long are you holding it there now? 2-4 Hours?
Whow only 2hours cook when you achieve 200F, I thought it was 15hours! I should try with my 55 gallon barel! (or I missed something?). You are doing super-pasteurization, right?
@@earthangelmushrooms2118 Hey TR, can you make a video about the boiller? Thanks for the info. I just built a mush farm. I am coocking 150x12pounds bags per week but need more capacity, my atmosferic boiller is not good enough for expansion.
I would love to see the cost breakdown per block to operate. Seems to me...and I could be wrong...that the fuel cost would outweigh the advantages of being able to do larger numbers because of the inefficiency of not being able to reach 15-20 psi?
8 hrs to cook and with in 24hrs ( total) cooled down enought to nock up......you sir are the man!
I love how everybody stays sleeping on your videos, how is it working now that it's like three months later? Much love from Central Florida Man
Love these build vids, keep them coming!
I used a fireproof expanding foam to stick the insulation boards to our steamer, works a treat. Holding up 1 year later doing weekly cooks - though not doing anywhere near as many blocks as you!
Tons of work, thanks for letting us watch everything
Hey T.R.! Killian @ CJC Transport here... Awesome stuff! Looking forward to talking mushrooms & reefer freight with you!
Excellent design brother (This is Kiefer btw) whenever you see comments from Linda Bonomo it's Kiefer Myers on my wife's TH-cam account.
I use a sauna steam generator, an aluminum shelving unit 8ftx2ftx4ft, and a custom 40oz neoprene cover strapped over it on gaskets. It's a design inspired by Cyrus Lester with a few modifications. 14-16 hours and it rolls into and out of the lab. We only do 120 bags a week but that's plenty right now because I have no employees. $1200 total for the design and it holds a max of 180 10 lb blocks.
6kw of power
We stuck our polyiso to our milk tanks using cans of greatstuff polyiso spray foam. Worked great. Make sure its the same 200+F rated foam spray not low temp sprayfoam. Most of the stuff on the hardware store shelves is polyiso high temp rated foam spray (various brands). We also used brass gate valves for cold hepa air input and vents. We run cold water through the milk tank cooling coils. We gave up on a big metal box idea (gasket leaking issues) and use single lid giant milk tanks instead (200 bags a tank). Soo much better. Don't forget the UVc in the fogger tank. ;-)
Wassup brother, I appreciate all you do, (GREAT VIDEOS), although I've watched all of your videos numerous times, curious about the one, where you said you was gonna start making your own bags, because of filter patch issues...
Great video and awesome sterilizer, it's huge but i have a question, in smaller sterilization setups why do some people use a boiler connected to a trough for atmospheric sterilization, doesn't it make more sense to boil water in the trough with a burner underneath? I do this with a steel drum and at least at the top the steam easily gets to 300f.
Yes, you can do it the way you are. That said, steam cannot get above 212f unless it's under pressure.
@@earthangelmushrooms2118 Huh... maybe my thermometer is broken then, i does have a bit of pressure but not that much.
@@earthangelmushrooms2118 there is an exception to this, steam can be 'superheated' after it's produced but it's not good for our application, it doesnt give to it's heat as easily. It's also called 'dry steam'. All that said, you can not directly produce superheated steam from a open boiler, it requires a superheating exchanger section. Fun stuff thanks for sharing.
@@CMZneu maybe ur thermometer is touching the metal parts. If you use a burner, the metal parts temp can easily exceed the temp of boiling water. You have to make sure u are measuring the temperature of the steam/air inside, not the temp of the barrel walls, so your termomether absolutely must not touch any metal parts.
@@Quiablo it's a bimetal oven thermometer so it's hard for it to not be touching the steel drum since it has to be screwed to it, the drum has a good amount of glass wool insulation around 80% of the sides and the lid, but the thermometer is near the lid so it's as far as possible from the burner. I've done test with supplemented sawdust filling a sealed jar 1/4 of the way and left them for months and there never was any visible sight of contam, and i opened a closed a few for a few seconds and sure enough contam got in a grew as expected so it's at least sterilizing quite well at whatever temp it does reach.
Great video, I’m currently testing out an insulated and waterproof cinder block unit to fit all my bags in. I don’t see anyone else doing this so I hope it works. I just have a question about what is your source of pressurised steam? Do you use a boiler? Or a DIY unit?
Thanks
What is your procedure to move the bags into the clean room?
So we dont have to keep 9h core temp 200f??
Cant u use polyurethane foam to stick the insulation to the walls? If there are no leaks, polyurethane should be pretty stable at those temps. Is will not behave well if there is hot steam blowing on it though.
You seen Mondo Duran's new design? It's high quality, very functional. A little pricey but I like it.
Sir, can you please go thoroughly with the design, from the smallest to the biggest details... I'm really interested... Thanks.. ☺ nice video btw...
I'm starting to understand why you get a lot of contamination.
Use a insulation like this with steel studs. You can screw the studs to the box and they won't fall off because of the glue failing. It is sold at Menards.
Johns Manville TempControl® R-23 Mineral Wool Insulation Batt 15.25" x 47" (24.9 sq ft)
A pressure cooker has a pressure relief. What did you use?
There is a 2in exhaust
I have build a couple steam cabinets but I am just starting to probe the substrate (masters mix) to hold at 95c (203F). How long are you holding it there now? 2-4 Hours?
Whow only 2hours cook when you achieve 200F, I thought it was 15hours! I should try with my 55 gallon barel! (or I missed something?). You are doing super-pasteurization, right?
Hello, I love your channel, would it be ok to share some of your videos, on my website. I hope to here back from you! thank you Earth Angel!
Impressive, nice setup!
Which type of PID controller do you use?
These are inkbird
@@earthangelmushrooms2118 Hey TR, can you make a video about the boiller? Thanks for the info. I just built a mush farm. I am coocking 150x12pounds bags per week but need more capacity, my atmosferic boiller is not good enough for expansion.
Only 2 hours at 200?
I miss Menards!
HI BIG MUSHROOMMAAAAN ;)))
First baby
Man… I mean…wtf xD wow