Zelda's Depressing Release Schedule (And How to Fix It)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ส.ค. 2017
- Zelda games are glorious, but they release at a PAINFULLY slow rate. Here's how I think Nintendo could pick up the pace a smidge without sacrificing quality.
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"Really Arlo you of all people want a Zelda every year just like Call of Duty unsubscribed"
"1000 subs"
1,000 subs no vids midoo?
Well should highlight this so that it shows he gets the joke
_"Yeah but Solid Snake"_
1,000 subs no vids wow u dummy he said 3 years not 1 why don't you watch the video..
OHHH so you think nintendo should release Zelda every year like Call of Duty HUUUUHH???
Master Flip 😂
Lol
Oh so you think that Mario games should be out for every second
yeah but solid snake
So mario games around 1month per game Kirby 3 games per month so yeah live would be so better if they look the same quality as for around a year per game
*I would be GREATLY disappointed, if there won't be another Zelda game using the BotW engine!*
Sure, they can enhance the engine and make it even better suited for the Switch (without a Wii U Version in the Background), but the core (like physics and climbing and stuff) should stay more or less the same.
Markus Kramer especially that art style it’s like skyward sword wind walker and a sprinkle of anime I love it
Bla bla bla boriing
I don't imagine Nintendo wants to bother making another new engine. Especially since the Chemistry Engine was the reason why BotW took so long to release.
This is a genuinely good idea, why are there 2 people talking shit on this opinion?
The switch was the port btw, search it up
Arlo got exactly his wish of a asset reusing sequel for Breath of the Wild... but taking even longer than any other 3D Zelda in history. Even I don't know what to think of this lol
Lol it's so ironic
It's a monkeys paw! Like with the OLED model
Nintendo listened to Arro wanting a sequel anything BUT 5 YEAR PLUS. Therefore, tears of the kingdom release 6 years later to fulfil Arlo
You call that depressing ? Have u seen the half life schedule.
this is the best comment I have ever seen
Aymen rest in peace...
OHHH so you think -nintendo- *valve* should release -Zelda- *Half life* every year like Call of Duty HUUUUHH???
I heard half life 3 will come out in 2069
I went to comment about the elder scrolls then I saw this...
Paper Mario & Metroid had a more depressing release schedule than Zelda, just saying
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Ice is Nice and F-Zero.....oh wait
Ice is Nice but paper mario also had other mario games to fill in
especially paper mario since we havent seen a real paper mario in a long time
yeah but those games are not ZELDA
continuous HUNGRY what?
"A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad." -Miyamoto himself
@Corey Stokely Too Human, Perfect Dark Zero, Nuts and Bolts, Mighty No. 9
bioshock infinite was great even though it was delayed 3 times. so this holds a lot of truth
Dying Meme
Leave N&B out of this
@@meeperdudeify It still haunts me in my dreams... Lest I forget
He's not suggesting a rush. He's suggesting a schedule tweak.
Arlo: We should get another Zelda game using BotW's assets to help speed up development time.
Nintendo: Hold my beer.
You mean Nintendo: hold my non alchaholic kid friendly beverage
@@Onlyitsmereid hold my vacation juice
"to help speed up development time"
Nintendo: Wait give me my beer back
But lets make it take 5 years anyway
@@nuclearpikmin5484 still no date
If they reuse botw's engine the next release shouldn't take as long to release.
radical nan In before they make a multiplayer BOTW
Andrew Federici Already in the works!! ... on pc... through emulation... not official.
radical nan hopefully the dungeons will be better. seriously, BotW was disappointing to me.
They won't, they're going to use an engine built from the ground-up for the Nintendo Switch or something like Unreal Engine 4.
The Zelda BOTW engine is not well optimized for the Switch.
The BOTW engine was one of the big reasons the game has such poor FPS though. It was a Wii U port, not something made for the Switch...
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"There are pizza toppings other than Pepperoni and Parmesan."
Arlo best educational channel 2017. Enjoy your ice cream.
Those quotes will forever change the world...
Mario Mario a like for you, simply because I'm eating ice cream right now
No, pepperoni and parmesan are the *only* toppings for pizza. (And crushed red pepper/sriracha, though I don't think they qualify for the term)
I meant Arlo, but I hope you enjoy your ice cream too (:
But did anyone bring you your ice-creaming hat??
F-Zero is stuck in limbo because they can't think of a way to new-ify it. It doesn't need new stuff, just a new game.
and yet interesntingly star fox 64 has come out many times under a different name
It ain't in limbo. It is hella cancelled. The most it could ever get in the future is marry into the mario family and get invited to tennis and go carting.
Brachmin Dunsparce that’s a kart with a k
During splat fest I saw a post saying arlo will eat all the mayo
XD So have I.
I was wondering if it was the real Arlo until I checked on Twitter which confirmed it
So did I :)
Same!
Also saw xD
Thank god for screenshot button.
As a kingdom hearts fan, every 5 years seems pretty good
Indigo too true. Painfully true.
Indigo Kingdom hearts waited a long time for Kingdom hearts 3 so I see that
Indigo stop, kingdom heart games come out so often. You didn't go from 2006 to 2018 without a game
But there's a Kingdom Hearts game every other year?
They release a game every year. However, mainline games take longer yeah.
I have a theory that the next Zelda to be released WILL be a Majora's Mask-style departure, at least as far as theming, setting, and story go. Why?
Aonuma was the dungeon designer for OoT before he was made the Zelda series's director starting with Majora's Mask. OoT was so hugely successful that Nintendo wanted the team to make an expansion for it, but Aonuma refused - he said he had already created the perfect dungeons for a traditional 3D Zelda, and couldn't make any more without a major rethink of how the game works. So, he made Majora's Mask
Now we're seeing this repeat with BotW. Rather than the first 3D Zelda, this is the first open world Zelda - and again, it was enormously popular. I predict that Aonuma has already told Nintendo that his team has created the perfect open world Hyrule, and that he will not rehash or expand it. Which means the team will probably create another Majora's Mask - a cobbling together of all their outlandish ideas (e.g. repeating time, transformation masks, a major focus on sidequests) set in a completely different world for you to explore. And who knows, maybe by the time they make the next game they'll *still* feel like they have nothing new to bring to plain old Hyrule, and they'll make the next Wind Waker - a loose adaptation on the classic Zelda formula but with major changes to its core aspects
Turtles Tortellini I don't see any perfect dungeons in breath of the wild.
The only problem with your theory is that they ARE making DLC.
Or even better- a reboot of the CDi series!
FrogTM Mah boi, a reboot of the CD-I Zeldas is what all true gamers strive for!
Maybe it could take place on top of that massive cliff that TAUNTS ME with its elusiveness
"anything but 5 years plus!"
* Botw 2 is coming 2022 *
Hinestly I feel its a bit unfair to not include the handheld titles those are still main series titles if you add them back in youll notice that those gaps you mention become smaller
Ventar Madness not to mention the 2D console games
Yep, specially because the same group used to make both, the handheld and the big console releases.
At least the same group made Four Swords Adventures, Twilight Princess, Phantom Hourglass, Spirit Tracks, Skyward Sword and A Link Between Worlds.
They used to release a Zelda game every 2 years, even Phantom Hourglass was released after one year of Twilight Princess.
Nintendo was recently restructured, so the group that used to make those rushed Zelda games no longer exists.
Yes, but after twilight princess, they publicly divulged the split between the development groups for consoles. So time spent on those titles shouldnt influence this issue at all any more.
Please hear the second sentence. He said indirectly that he wasn't going to talk about the handhelds I guess
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Zelda is a game series that'll I wait for if the quality stays as good as it is.
I hope the quality can keep up if the rate we get Zelda games speeds up!
He has a point though. A lot of my disappointment with BotW would have been alleviated if it didn't take so long to come out. There was so much waiting and hyping for it that my expectations were too high. Instead of expecting another great Zelda game like it is, I was expecting a masterpiece, which it isn't.
I really want to see a game that takes everything from BotW and builds off it.
Graestra I personally loved BOTW what about the game disappointed you.
The expectations thing is kinda your fault.
Nick Dawson The dungeons and lack of more different types of enemies (I.e darknuts,skulltullas, and peahats
I want a prequel to BoTW 2019-2020
That could be rad, I've thought of that too. It would be cool to live out the story of what happened "100 years ago". The only issue I see with that is we've already seen all the memories of what happened, we know exactly how things pan out, and the locations would all remain exactly the same since the plot would have to take place in the same Hyrule. But maybe Nintendo could come up with something.
Damian Calle Welp, they’ve got the cutscenes down
I'm more on a Sequel.
Maybe they could tell the story of 10,000 years ago, when the divine beasts were first used
That sound awsome! Just like the legends Kass sings about!
"Holiday 2019"
Oh god no. At least give people time to beat the damn game.
Well excuse me, slowpoke.
LazyTitan too bad you only saw 5% of the whole game
Just 100% botw I'm sure I'm less than 8% who has actually done that
Studley D. Muffin lol
But I already did.
I completely agree 1000%. However, I do think BotW is a slightly different case. Seeing as how people have put 100+ or even 200+ hours in the game, if we have another one with the same visuals will cause a little fatigue. Not hugely, but noticeably.
Andrew Johnson You know... agreeing just 100% is enough to "completely agree" ^^. Also, you agree "however" ? You are wayyyy under 1000% then.
Michael. My point is that in this one case (BotW), there will be a little more fatigue compared to other Zelda games. For we are already very saturated to this style. Just from personal experience with my friends and I. We played OoT probably 40-50 hours of thoroughly enjoying ourselves. Then the same or a little less for Majora's Mask. so 80-100ish hours. But we'll play BotW, again, for more than 100 hours. Than to make another 50-100h game with the same guts and visuals will cause a "little" fatigue. Not that I think it's a BIG deal, but you'll notice while playing, while you didn't with OoT and MM. His point is still right even with BotW though.
Andrew Johnson I can see where you are coming from. I was so blown away by BotW's art style and all everything about it, and then a few weeks later I was just so accustomed to it. Now, I've seen everything in the game and it's sad to admit that I am a little tired of it. It's still an amazing art style, but I miss the feeling of being so blown away by it. BotW is a game that you can only truly experience once.
True which is why they would need to approach the game from a quirky angle like they did with Majora's mask. Though majora uses many of the same assets at Ocarina it still FEELS very different and that's because it has a completely different tone. If they kind find a far out tone for a sequel they could still use many of the assets, physics, mechanics, etc but have the game feel like a whole new world/game.
Agreed, a quirky approach would be exactly what they need to mage a good console follow-up to BOTW. Especially the bosses.
Botw 2? I have a better name *Gasp* of the Nature.
Mr.BudrWafl13 EXHALING OF THE OUTDOORS
I hope it's a prequel about the events of 100/10,000 years ago.
Whiff of the Earth
Or a sequel that takes place in the future- SIGH OF THE INDOORS
THEGREATMAX gold
Oh the irony. Arlo got exactly what he asked for and it STILL took Nintendo 6 years to release a follow up (and there’s no guarantee that game will not be delayed… though unlikely). Seriously, if you look at TotK compared to BotW, they obviously used a LOT of the same assets. Guess it doesn’t even matter.
Nintendo should hire this guy
That would be interesting
They basiclly did..
@@terrygreene5942 How?
Giggity giggity goo
Yes
But there is top down zelda games between 3d ones
Bookers He knows this, he's merely talking about the major titles.
I would argue that the isometric ones are major titles though... at least the non spin-off titles anyways.
why are the handheld games less important though? This is where Arlo's argument falls apart.
that's because they split development, 3DS got specific ones, and Wii U got specific ones. Time will tell if they continue splitting, or if that unified development Iwata did back in 2013 means future 3DS only Zeldas now on Switch.
True, but the 3D ones are the Zelda games that people get more excited about, and there are actually some people who consider the top-down Zeldas to be spinoffs (Which I don't agree with but I can see where they are coming from).
I really can't Imagine a more beautiful art style than breath of the wild, so, why not use this artistic direction for a new Zelda? This would be a waste
Brandon Guimaraes BOTW is gorgeous for sure. I would love to see them do something totally crazy like a literal watercolor style
You would love Okami
maybe like take this art style and tweak it slightly for a bit more detail, or just more particle effects etc.
Breath of the Wild is definitely the perfect art style for the series.
The King I've seen that one! Always wanted to play it, but I don't have a ps2 or 3, but thank you for reminding me, because I looked it up and HOLY MOTION CONTROLS! I didn't know it came out on Wii!!! I've been out of gaming for like 7 years and just got a Wii for myself last Christmas! Now I gotta hunt a copy down!
"I feel like holiday 2019, is completely realistic"
Oh if he only knew
I hope we never get a yarn Zelda.
Linky and Zeldy's Woolly Hyrule!
W O O S H Y E X P L O S H Y.
... Paper Zelda could actually work.
automaticdeath this isn't yoshi or Kirby
Or a paper Zelda
Thank you Arlo. A Zelda release is basically a lifetime event.
I want them to take their time but I don't want them to get increasingly longer in between.
There isn't a five-year gap between Zelda unless you don't consider the 2D overhead games that started the series "real Zelda games" ala 3D World criticisms.
timrtabor123 he didn't mean to say 2-D Zelda games are not Zelda games. He's strictly saying that 3-D Zelda games are too good to release once every five or six years. I for one agree with him. I'm 22 now and if the schedule maintains with every five years I'll be near thirty. Jesus I don't wanna wait that long for a sequel to Breath of the Wild.
Pariah Mentality I'm 32 and I have waited my entire life. You'll get used to it.
why don't you just...play the 2D games?
And he also didn't include "The Legend of Zelda Phantom Hourglass, Spirit Tacks, Link Betweeen worlds , Tr Force Heroes even though thay are 3D "
aside from ALBW all those games are shit tier though
And still somehow we are in the midst of one of the longest sequel breaks in this franchise
Me watch this in 2023, hearing Arlo’s prediction for TotK: 💀
what about the portable Zelda games
Ocarina of Time: 1998
Majora's mask: 2000
***The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Ages/Season:2001****
The Wind Waker:2002
***The Minish Cap:2004****
Twilight princess 2006
****Phantom Hourglass:2007****
***Spirit Tracks:2009***
skyward sword:2011
***a link between worlds:2013****
Breath of the Wild:2017
a wait for a Zelda game isn't even that long and I'm not counting the multiplayer games or remakes. so the wait for a new Zelda is only a 2 to 3 few years
Yeah... Nintendo does keep pushing Zelda out. I know he mentioned 3D games but... The 2D game ARE there solution to the wait between 3D games to hold us over till they can push the next.
You have ADHD. He says 3D games at the very beginning. Get medicine
THEGREATMAX Yes. But to only look at the 3D games is to ignore Nintendos game plan with the Zelda series. The 2D games are the supplement to hold us over between 3D game as the 2D game don't need as much time or money in order to make well.
Yes.most of us missed him mumble something about “At least the 3d” omces but the 2D games are a valid point to what Nintendo is doing to keep the Zelda series going.
THEGREATMAX He/she doesn't have ADHD for pointing out something like that. They're saying that even though the wait for a 3D Zelda is long, we still get 2d Zelda's so we're preoccupied.
Though keep in mind all the classic Zelda games are 2D. That was the start of the series. Heck I had so much fun playing Link Between Worlds over and over just because it was a modern 2D Zelda highly resembling the best 2D Zelda ever! But then again, I have spent 300+ hours in Breath of the Wild which is probably more hours than all other 3D Zelda games combined lol. I would absolutely love to have a Breath of the Wild sequel. But, just imagine if they pushed an incredible 2D Zelda adventure on the Switch..... Made it huge in some other land (not Hyrule) with a completely new story and tons of dungeons (yes more than Link to the Past!) ..... Oh boy!!
I like Zelda because it's like a golden egg each time it's released. Development times will get longer rather than shorter if pattern is to be followed
Nintenjam If they use the same assets and engine it actually won't. When they use the same stuff in a way it's like recycling what they made is there so they can pull it out again and tweak and add changes, so it's familiar but different.
@2:40 Between Skyward Sword and BotW coming out, I graduated high school, moved out of my parents' house, got married, went to college, dropped out of college, and started planning on opening TWO BUSINESSES. That's a long time between 2 games.
Layne McCallum having kids in that short of a time and opening two businesses in that short of a time too.
The awkward moment that you been watching a blue furry monster for 5 years and relatively been keeping up to date with their content. God, I'm getting old. It's already been 5 whole years. Holy crap.
I bought my Switch last night off of this old man on my facebook electronics sales group. I met him at Wal-Mart to buy just a Switch for $300. I was astonished when he pulled out the switch, still in its box, carefully repackaged with all the original plastic put back on each part, like new by definition AND the Special Edition Breath of the Wild (dude....this box is bigger than the box for the switch) AND a Pro Controller, carefully repacked into its box. Nervous because I only brought $300 (that I had to scrap together) I told him I can't buy the rest. He smiled and told me it came with it. I asked "Why are you selling this for so cheap? " and informed him of the shortage and all that. He told me he was 78 and had been playing Zelda from the NES era tell now. He told me he had bought all of this to get 1 last run out of the series because he knew he wouldn't live to see the next 1. I thought the story kinda fit here so I shared it.
There's an irony in the thumbnail and date of release for the video, lol.
Yeah, this would be awesome, imagine that end the end of e3 2019 they revealed a dark and creepy asset reusing botw 2.
wait...
Yes but now it’s 2021 so it’s been 5 years
And imagine if they did that and the game somehow managed to take just as long anyway!
@@mrwho995 yes😑 yep
Great video! I love the videos where you go into possible theoretical solutions to things!
And I'm also happy to have helped with my Majora's Mask footage! Thank you!
Using the same engine is fine, Gamefreak and the Pokémon Company do the same thing as Zelda with the engines. Example, Pokemon Ruby Sapphire had a 3rd version, Emerald using the same engine. Black &a White got a sequel using the same engine, updating some sprites. Pokemon X & Y did it with Omega Ruby Alpha Sapphire, and Sun and Moon will be doing it too with Ultra Sun Ultra Moon. So this proves that the Zelda team can do it too, faster.
Braden Allan But Pokémon is constantly slated for releasing too many games that are way too similar
Luke Ryan you aren't forced to buy both
Like the Pokémon games are fine but maybe they can add more story New gameplay mechanics and maybe extend the amount of Pokémon that are usually added in the games, they could even add more Pokémon types.
Also Pokémon Stars actually may break the Pokémon 's game engine streak so Pokémon might be like Zelda, Metroid F-0, Starfox and WHERE IS THE MOTHER SERIES!!
Argonxx12 1 I'm pretty sure stars isn't happening. Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon is next.
Arlo: Breath of the Wild sequel by late 2019
Nintendo: 2023, take it or leave it.
Miyamoto- It's finished when it's finished.
Well boys looks like Nintendo took arlo's advice
BO2W HYPE SQUAD
Auri DiSavan Arlo was spot on here
So hyped
Breath of 2 wild?
let's just hope it doesn't become a 5/10 game like botw.
Yeah but it's still going to be a four year wait, which is kind of ridiculous
5 years later….
I'm fine with that release schedule. It makes each game feel more special and unique and it gives me more time to finish other games
It is the Olympics of video games. That is what makes it so special and beloved. That the big event (summer olympics and 3D Zelda games) only come every four years.
+Commonwealth Realm but who knows what will happen to the 2D Zelda team in this Switch era. If there is no successor to the 3DS then maybe we get more 1st party games more often on Switch (or they reduce staff) . Not that we need more! I just don't like the habit of cross platform zeldas, show us what new hardware can do
I just hate that most people ignore the 2D games, ALttP and ALBW are propably among the top 5 in the whole series.
+Jonathan G A Legend of Zelda Four Swords Adventures sequel of gamecube would be aWESOME Four Swords Adventures 2 MAN Make it BIG N !!!!
Four Swords Adventures... I didn´t like it, stopped halfway through.
So uuuuh, they did what Arlo suggested and still took 6 years to make the game lol
Alexa, play the Curb Your Enthusiasm theme.
While I don't have a problem reusing art styles, I'm not sure reusing BOTW's would work well. It would be strange to see the exact same game engine used for a very different Zelda game, and If they still go for an open ended world, it would feel too much like BOTW as well.
AaronEVX it depends on how they do it. Majora's Mask reused assets but had a vastly different art style. It felt darker, and more oppressive than OoT did thanks to how they coloured and shaded everything. They could do something similar with BotW where it has the same engine but with a different style.
You have to realize that Breath of the Wild didn't have a whole lot of variety in its environments. They could really do a lot more with the same art style.
They could actually reuse the engine without copying all of the art assets. This way they wouldn't have to use all of the time dealing with physics and mechanics issues and the game would still feel fresh especially if the world would be considerably different than the BOTW's world.
AaronEVX They could reuse it if the game is somewhat connected to Breath of the wild. Just like OoT and MM or the whole Adult timeline. If they made a sequel or prequel to BotW they could reuse the art style .
AaronEVX Art style and engine are very different things. For instance, The Wind Waker and Twilight Princess run on the same engine.
I wish Nintendo would release Zelda games more often
OH SO YOU WANT NINTENDO TO release ZELDA GAMES LIKE CALL OF DUTY HUUUUUUUUUH?!?!?!!
wow, he was right
*OH,* so you want Nintendo to release games in the Zelda series every twelve months like FIFA, _huh?!?_
OoooOOOOOoooohhh, so you want Nintendo to release like Madden games, with Zelda 2018 and Zelda 2019 etc???? ShaaaAAAAAaaame on youuuuuu!!!! XD
Arlo: Five years!?!?
Kid Icarus: Am I a joke to you?
Somehow, they took the asset reuse idea and STILL WE HAVE TO WAIT 5 YEARS
"Man, what is it with 3s...?" *Glares at Valve*
I wish you could retweet YT comments, cause that was good
But Arlo, I need money to buy food...
Awsome idea Arlo love your videos keep it up!
rewatching the video that got me into your channel half a year ago
probably one of my favourite channels ever XD
I know you're only looking at the 3D games here, but with all the 2D games a Zelda fan doesn't need to be short on content.
Quality > Quantinty
Joshua 'TheTrueMaster' Baptista quantity*
Majora's Mask. It's possible.
Quality quantitties.
EVERYONE SAYS THAT. Ever meant anyone who said the opposite.
Quality >= Quantity
And then they proceeded to use the same assets and core gameplay without speeding up anything
The worst of both worlds...
Nintendo: yeah... so let's do this sequel idea thing, but just make the development the same as a ground up game... thats basically the same thing right?
BOTW could use a Majora's Mask like game, just use it's engine and assets to make something strange and different
With that said I don't think an entirely new game using entirely new assets and a new engine should come out after 2 or 3 years after new games, we don't want a Zelda that suffers from the same problems as Devil May Cry 4 or MGSV
YES! Nintendo needs to take the engine and assets from BotW, cut the world size in half and fill it with great characters and dungeons! Nothing against BotW world or size, quite the opposite, but Nintendo has so much opportunity to make another Majora's Mask!
Nintendo: Make it 3X as large???? OKAY
If you put it in perspective Oot was released on Nov 1998 and MM was released on Apr 2000(Japan). Slightly longer than a year by maybe 16-17 months.
The Legend of Zelda: *Makes smaller games on handheld or spinoffs that has that Zelda theme*
Super Mario: Imma go play some baseball
You're asking for another zelda as if you were asking for another bag of potato chips. Let the dang meal cook. let it cook for 10 years if necessary. games are art. you can't rush art. but you can eat another bag of chips while you wait. y'know, as in.. all the other billion zillion games that exist.
That's very well put.
The Legend of Zelda's release schedule is quite generous, fans of many other game franchises would kill to have 5 year release schedule.
There's a Zelda product almost every year if you look at releases. 2012 was the last year we got absolutely nothing Zelda, so I found this video a bit silly. Ignoring Hyrule Warriors, and everything else they released on 3DS between SS and BoTW and then saying "it's not enough", just comes off as whiny.
Dude your video are at first super weird. But wow! You make incredible well paced, well made, highly engaging, and well produced videos! Arlo is easily one of my favorite subscribes!
Arlo in 2017: "Heck, make it 2020 for all I care. Three and a half years ain't that. Anything but five years plus!"
Nintendo: Yeah... About that... 😬
First time I’ve ever gone to a video early and it didn’t say “ 5 views, 5000 likes”
This is tom 👉 :D
He died because he typed "First!"
Don't be like Tom, don't type first.
What a life lesson...
Jadyn Marek Now you know and knowing is half the battle.
I can agree on that.
Your punctuation is terrible.
Jared Gauthier Thanks. (I'm not being sarcastic )
It is February 9th, 2022. There was a Nintendo Direct today. No sign of BotW2. It looks like this is going to be the longest wait for a 3D Zelda game ever, coming close to six years or even beyond. There is no reason for this. It reuses the world, it reuses the engine, it reuses the assets. There's no excuse here.
@@ChinDogToshi Did you even watch the video?
@@Bobb11881 If it takes this long even though they are reusing assets i really do wonder what it is that is taking so long. Hopefully We won’t be disappointed because one of my biggest concerns is the world feeling too similar and the fun of exploration Will be gone.
@@TonysLittleFavorite I don't even care if the fun of exploration is gone. Not every Zelda game needs to be about the same thing.
Nintendo: Making BoTW 2
Also Nintendo: Takes 5+ years
More frequent Zelda?
Yea but solid snake.
I only want 1 Zelda (Maybe 2 MAX) per system for each console gen. Their schedule release is all wonky, but I think the rate at which we get them is appropriate. This past gen had 4 remakes, and 3 new titles, plus 1 big spinoff title. I was overwhelmed by it all, to be honest.
I love you man, you're my favorite TH-camr, you're a genius! And Majora's Mask has been my favorite since 2000:)
Arlo: anything but 5 years plus!
Nintendo: *releases the next Zelda 4 years 11 months and 30 days after Breath of the Wild*
You should make a $5 tier on your Patreon (or put it in the $10 tier) and have the reward be exclusive access to a discord server that you make. Never in my life have I agreed completely with everything a TH-camr says in every one of his videos, and it'd be awesome to chat with you and a bunch of others who share similar opinions.
I dunno, you know what they say about too much of a good thing... im kidding of course
yeah but why lock it behind patreon? he could make a specific channel in the discord for patrons but the server itself should be open to everyone.
I want a Zelda Switch pack with Wind Waker HD and Twilight Princess HD, That would be awesome!
AleNekra Vilar it could include the 3d remasters as well
Botw's sequel will be like Majora's Mask, because they can't just make the same story, (like you said) so they have to do something new! I LOVE MAJORAS MASK, can we please have a story like that oh please oh please OH PLEASE!!!
thePredman#9 lol boy do I have some news for you
Boy do I have some news for ME! Past-Matt, I'm sorry to say but not only will the sequel to BOTW take 6 years, longer than the gap between Skyward Sword and BOTW, but it will use the same map and have an even weaker story, somehow fumbling Ganondorf as antagonist, reducing him to literally saying the line "peace-loving fools".
BUT DON'T WORRY! you'll eventually discover the Xenoblade series in 2021 and get to experience a *real* story game with an actually amazing world, and fantastic music. And of course a narrative that will profoundly impact your life and how you go on living it...leaving the Zelda series behind like a fresh young adult leaving behind his old toys and going off to college for new and more meaningful experiences...perhaps still having a place in his heart for those old toys and the memories they hold...even if he's since grown past needing them. Such is the tale of a Zelda fan eventually discovering Xenoblade.
I totally agree with you Arlo! The first time I played through Majora's Mask I was thinking in my head how crazy it was that this game was made in a year or two and not only is it my favorite Zelda game of all time but one of my favorite games of all time! P.S. As you can tell by my profile picture I am a huge fan of Uncharted so when I saw you bring up Uncharted as an example I thought that was awesome!
He proceeded to get what he wanted, but had to wait 5 years anyway lol
Oh you want Call of Duty to release a new year every Nintendo like Zelda, huh?
Wait, did I say that right?
They should release games on a 3 year basis. If they could do it with majoras mask in one year which is a loved game. They can introduce new ideas without it taking half a decade. That leaves two or even three Zelda games per console, and then they can change up the graphics every generation
WE ARE IN 2023 AND THIS GAME IS 24 DAYS AWAY FROM US, I'M SO SICK OF WAITING 😭😭😭
"OOOOOOOH, Soo YOU want NINTENDO to release a new Zelda every year like Call of Duty huuuuuuuuuuuh?"
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Keep trying TH-cam, I'm sure you can get it right soon!
We are cheering for you TH-cam!
I love these points brought up in your video. Especially when you stated how the sequel could be done by one half of the team, and the other half could be planning the new mechanics and gameplay ideas (which as stated, seem to take up majority of the development time. By the time the mechanics and gameplay have been worked out, the sequel for the former entry would have been released and still have an audience, and the new game would already be in a good development cycle.
This concept seems so simple and fluid that it’s crazy they haven’t thought of this their selves.
realisticaly 2019...
me in 2022: oh boy
But 3D Zeldas aren't the only Zelda games. A Link Between Worlds, a fantastic game, came out 2 years after Skyward Sword, and Triforce Heroes came after that. Plus, there was Four Swords and Four Swords Adventure, along with Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks. I repsect your opinion, but to me, these Zeldas are just as important as the 3D ones.
(is going to the store)
(Arlo uploads video)
I DIDN'T NEED FOOD AND WATER ANYWAYS.
cookie 101 Same here. Dropped what I was doing. What was I doing?
I was about to go to sleep, but who needs sleep when they can watch a blue puppet man talk about video games for fourteen minutes and ten seconds?
Awesome arlo!
Great points, as always!
My only extra little tidbit to add, as I mentioned on Patreon, is the DLC issue. Are new games using the same basic everything needed when you can just add new stories, missions, and territories through DLC.
There's been a new game consistently every 2 years since 2007
He means 3D games, watch the video
Even then he also didn't include "The Legend of Zelda Phantom Hourglass, Spirit Tacks, A Link Betweeen worlds , Tr Force Heroes even though thay are 3D "
When people talk about 3D Zeldas they mean the third person ones, not the top view games
he means the high budget console releases
That's a wrong way to see it, if Arlo decides to ignore 2D Zeldas that doesn't mean that Nintendo doesn't spend time and resources working on them. In fact, prior BOW, the same development group of Nintendo was making 2D Zeldas as well as 3D Zeldas, they weren't a different studio in most cases (only with Minish Cap and the Oracles was a different studio), and Zeldas from that studio were being releasing every two years until ALBW, after that Nintendo reorganized.
It's like saying that "Non numerical entries of Assassin's Creed doesn't count: then they took, 2 years between AC and ACII, 3 years between II and III, 1 year between III and IV, and Ubisoft has been working in AC V for more almost 4 years by now".
Arlo committed a similar mistake with Mass Effect Andromeda, he assumed that BioWare was working on Mass Effect Andromeda since they finished Mass Effect 3 (he didn't count DA: Inquisition, nor Old Republic, nor the fact that the studio that was making ME: Andromeda wasn't the same that made the previous ME games).
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More like..."Two out of thee ain't bad" amirite?
Heh...Meat Loaf quotes. =)
I would love to see Vaati come back as a main villain in a BoTW styled LoZ game. Vaati was a damn good enemy.
I could watch a whole video of just arlo walking , the way he Bob's up and down literally makes me laugh every time.
I'm a simple man. I see an Arlo video and I watch it.
Same here, well maybe a slight change to "a simple woman"
Has he done a BOTW review yet?
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You do have a point Arlo. Making games in the same art style and having the same mechanics along with new ones sprinkled in would help the games come out faster and make them automatically have amazing gameplay and so on, but there are 2 areas where this idea comes to falter. If the story dosen't count for a sequel, or another Zelda in the same world that isn't necessarily a follow up of the previous story, it makes sense to start new and make a new world. In most of Zelda's cases there wouldn't really be anything linking the next game to the previous one, or any reason for another game to continue in that world. Zelda tends to tie up pretty neatly at the end of each instalment. You could argue that you could make a different game with a different world and story in the same art style with the same mechanics, but most mechanics in each game work specifically for that game and it's story. If you reuse these things, you end up with another game that has to capture the exact same mood as the last game. Let's say you were to make a game in the style of twilight princess, you wouldn't be to make it more lighthearted like the windwaker because of the parts of it that make it cemented into it's own feel. Where in you can't make a very serious windwaker, it'd seem silly. After awhile it'd become kind of dissapointing to see another console release that'd be almost exactly like the previous game. The reason it worked for Majoras Mask is because there were parts in OOT's story and world that weren't entierly finished, it was a great game that seemed incomplete. So Majoras Mask was the way they brought closure to that feeling of emptiness, although not in a very drastic way (we still don't know where Navi is). I think it'd be cool if they did start making sequels to Zelda games, but not every time a new game is being released. It'd work better if every once and awhile we were treated to an expansion of a game if the story or world can expand. When you make a sequel to every game it gets old and takes away the charm of the expansion. Also comment section, when people say 3D Zelda, they mean a Zelda with an X, Y, and Z axis. One where you can actually look up and jump and fall and look around, the game actually has an up and down you can interact with, not the graphics looking better and having 3D characters.
In Wind Waker they cut the Nauru’s pearl dungeon but what was the other missing one? Also why weren’t the cut dungeons added back in for the HD release?