I rode the PCC's all through secondary school in Philadelphia, except when we were stuck with some of the old Peter Witts. Now, in San Francisco, I still get to ride them occasionally. Thanks for the ride!
When I was visiting The Hauge "Den Haag" in the 70th that PCC with "standing windows" was only used on route 1 to Delft, going single. I saw it has the original painting, the other PCC wagons going multiple 2 trams on the other lines, they where shorter then the US PCC. When he openign the seats he checking the sand. I'm a former tram driver on linie 12 "zubringer nach U-Bahn", a short linie from Alvik metro station to Nockeby in Stockholm, Sweden. They called A24 and was made in the middle of the 40th. At 13:19 that red-white tram standing in front at the stop is made partly from old PCC wagons, I think they using the boggies and some other stuff.
Schitterend, zo'n mooi ontwerp, weergaloos, als kind in gereden, zo herkenbaar, sfeertje qua interieur met die ramen en plafonieres. Toch ooit weer eens een ritje mee zien te maken. Dank voor dit mooie sfeerbeeld.
I was lucky to ride one one the newer pairs (the orange ones) in Brussels in a Brussels tram museum day ten years ago. It's quite remarkable how smooth quiet and overall "civilised" the ride of these 70 y.o. vehicles is. I dare say much more of many contemporary modern tram vehicles. Thank you for the video and the tour of the city.
Man I miss when American technology was what the world wanted... seeing PCC streetcars from here to Moscow really shows the might of the American railroad industry at the early part of the PCC era. Too bad our railroad industry just squandered its own success and we failed to nationalize it...
hoi , tof om deze pcc tram te zien en spijtig dat die moest terug keren naar Nederland , aan de Vlaamse kust mag voorlopig geen enkele oude tram meer uitrijden omdat de volt tussen de nieuwe en oude trams 100 vol is , de nieuwe caf tram's zijn 700 volt
Ik heb veel filmpjes bekeken over de Haagse tram, en wist niet dat op de kruising van de Wouwermanstraat en de Parallelweg een NOVM-museum zit. Ik dacht dat het een regelmatige omkeerdriehoek was. Много пересмотрел видео о гаагском трамвае, и не знал, что на пересечении Wouwermanstraat и Parallelweg находится музей НОВМ. Я думал, там обычный разворотный треугольник.
In 2018 I had the privilege to drive one of their PCCs from the museum to Scheveningen. That was amidst all regular traffic. Great fun !! And no, I am not a tram driver in any way. At the time, you could book a 30 min "driving lesson" in a PCC with an instructor at a very reasonable price. Unfortunately, they don't do it anymore. I would certainly do it again.
😅ooit reed ik naar Delft met deze tram,jaaaren geleden,ik ben nu 1 jaartje ouder dan deze tram,toppie!!!🤣mooie rit,en een fijn weekend,bedankt.greetz:🍐Peer.🤣
Hallo, Hoe is het met je? Het is zo goed om ritten met historische trams te zien en er komen er nog meer. Ik volg je kanaal en ik zal er altijd zijn, ongeacht het kanaal. Bedankt voor weer een uitstekende en fantastische video. Ik hoop dat er nog meer video's komen en ik ga je kanaal volgen. Goed werk of veilige rust! Een knuffel!
I always wondered if you ever got to do anything with the museum trams we would occasionally see in your videos. Are you a museum member, or were you just a “tourist” on this ride? This particular model was almost exactly like the PCC cars I rode in Philadelphia when I was growing up, even into the 1970’s. The one I rode most was the route 13 to see a girl I was dating. It used to depart from Center City Philly in the subway tunnels where there was no street traffic and the operator could really get the unit wound up; I think we used to get up to 40 mph in the tunnels whereas you rarely got above 20 or 25 mph on city streets. The windows and interior were almost identical to the US versions we had in Philly. No AC, little heat in the winter. Of course, ours had trolley poles instead of pantographs, so they were a much bigger challenge to back-pole as the drivers referred to it. Thanks very much for the ride, it brought back tremendous memories.
Ik ken uit mijn jeugd nog de 1001 t/m 1003 ( meen ik ) met geen middendeuren, maar dubbele achterdeuren. Ben al 45 jaar weg uit Den Haag, maar zag dat er heel wat veranderd is ( logische ontwikkeling) Fietste vaak langs de remise Wouwermanstraat op weg naar de markt Herman Koster of naar de stad. Was even a trip down memory lane 😀
In 1959, Poland ordered the first batch of PCC-Westinghouse electrical equipment from ACEC. This allowed us to start the production of a Polish copy of the PCC cars, type Konstal 13N.
@@RunawayTrain2502 Czechoslovakia bought the license in 1948 from TRC (Transit Research Corporation, a subsidiary of ERPCC). On the basis of the license, the CKD Tatra T1 car was created in 1952. In 1956, two T1 cars were purchased for Warsaw, which were quickly tested and copied, resulting in the Konstal 11N project and a simplified version of the 12N. Unfortunately, the Polish electrical industry was not able to introduce Wetinghouse-type electrical equipment into production at that time, and an attempt to purchase such equipment in Czechoslovakia was refused. Equipment of this type could be purchased from the Belgian ACEC, but the equipment was different from the one in T1 (control voltage 40V instead of 24V), so the design had to be changed, and the design of the wheels was changed from the Silent type of T1 to the Super Silent type, such as in the Belgian BN, this is how the 13N car was created and sent into production. In Poland, attempts were made to introduce PCC cars already in 1947, when an agreement was signed with the Swedish company ASJ, which purchased licenses from TRC for the purposes of the contract with Poland. For unknown reasons, the contract was not concluded and ASJ built only 2 units. PCC A28 for Stockholm.
Thanks for the video, very interesting! A few questions: Why does he check under the seats at 5:58? If I understand correctly, modern trams have a system that communicates with the switches/points and automatically sets them to the correct position(?) Are these vintage trams retrofitted with the modern system or how does that work? A few times (like 24:29) he reaches down to the lower right to do something. What is he doing?
At 5.58 I was checking the amount of brake-sand there was left, which was plenty! The system for the switches, which is called VeTag (vehicle tagging) and is nowadays modernised to the new VeCom-system (Vehicle Communication) is actually already over 60 years old! So the original set-up in this tram still works with the modern infrastructure. This technology hasn't changed that much since. With this system we can simply enter the line we want to drive, and the presetted directions in the switches change accordingly. But when I want to differ from this route, I need to change the line in the cabinet on the right. So that's what I was doing :-) I'll make sure to film this for a future video!
That's super cool that the system is still backwards compatible decades later. Thanks for the explanation. One thing I'm still wondering: If the tram itself has to know all the lines and switch locations, what happens when there are changes to the lines or new tracks are built? For a modern tram I would assume only a simple software update is needed, but how about these old ones?
Leuke video. Er is iets dat ik me al een tijdje afvraag: ik neem aan dat de trambestuurder, bij een wissel, zelf kan kiezen welke kant hij/zij op gaat (ik zie immer nooit dat er iets beweegt op een tramwissel). Hoe werkt dit?
Ik weet niet hoe het werkt bij de PCC maar bij een gewone tram zit een transponder onder de tram die de lijncode naar de wissel stuurt wanneer die over een lus heen rijdt en dat gaat de wissel de juist stand in (kijk naar de blauwe driehoeken voor de wissels) maar bestuurders kunnen met dat kastje ( ik ben vergeten hoe dat heet) ook zelf een richting kiezen voor de wissel. De enige redenen dat een bestuurder zou uitstappen is dat de wissel alleen met de hand bediend kan worden of dat de lijncode niet is gelezen en de wissel niet is vergrendeld wat te zien is aan geen blauwe driehoek.
I rode the PCC's all through secondary school in Philadelphia, except when we were stuck with some of the old Peter Witts. Now, in San Francisco, I still get to ride them occasionally. Thanks for the ride!
SEPTA just redeployed 8 rebuilt PCC cars. Lovely to see the green and cream out and about again.
Love the old trams - thank you to Wes and yourself for this historic tram ride ❤
Mooi om te zien dag zulke oude trams nog in goede staat zijn.
I'm back, you know why now I'll watch your videos that I've missed these days. Good work
🙏 thank you!!
I do love a historic tram. Especially the decor and the motor sounds.
Lovely to see the old trams running.
Haga to najpiękniejsze państwo świata ❤
Благодарю за возможность увидеть работу водителя трамвая, некоторые специфические тонкости работы и, конечно же, за виды из кабины водителя.
When I was visiting The Hauge "Den Haag" in the 70th that PCC with "standing windows" was only used on route 1 to Delft, going single. I saw it has the original painting, the other PCC wagons going multiple 2 trams on the other lines, they where shorter then the US PCC. When he openign the seats he checking the sand. I'm a former tram driver on linie 12 "zubringer nach U-Bahn", a short linie from Alvik metro station to Nockeby in Stockholm, Sweden. They called A24 and was made in the middle of the 40th. At 13:19 that red-white tram standing in front at the stop is made partly from old PCC wagons, I think they using the boggies and some other stuff.
great thxs for the video hope u can make some more with the old trams they are interesting to watch
Geweldig dat zulke oude trams nog op straat rijden (net als in de rest van het land). Prachtig materieel
Schitterend, zo'n mooi ontwerp, weergaloos, als kind in gereden, zo herkenbaar, sfeertje qua interieur met die ramen en plafonieres. Toch ooit weer eens een ritje mee zien te maken. Dank voor dit mooie sfeerbeeld.
Beautiful tram, thank you for sharing. Watching from Colorado USA
I was lucky to ride one one the newer pairs (the orange ones) in Brussels in a Brussels tram museum day ten years ago. It's quite remarkable how smooth quiet and overall "civilised" the ride of these 70 y.o. vehicles is. I dare say much more of many contemporary modern tram vehicles. Thank you for the video and the tour of the city.
Man I miss when American technology was what the world wanted... seeing PCC streetcars from here to Moscow really shows the might of the American railroad industry at the early part of the PCC era.
Too bad our railroad industry just squandered its own success and we failed to nationalize it...
hoi , tof om deze pcc tram te zien en spijtig dat die moest terug keren naar Nederland , aan de Vlaamse kust mag voorlopig geen enkele oude tram meer uitrijden omdat de volt tussen de nieuwe en oude trams 100 vol is , de nieuwe caf tram's zijn 700 volt
Als rasechte Amsterdammer die al tientallen jaren in het buitenland woont is het leuk om te zien hoe een moderne Haagse tram eruit ziet.
Ik heb veel filmpjes bekeken over de Haagse tram, en wist niet dat op de kruising van de Wouwermanstraat en de Parallelweg een NOVM-museum zit. Ik dacht dat het een regelmatige omkeerdriehoek was.
Много пересмотрел видео о гаагском трамвае, и не знал, что на пересечении Wouwermanstraat и Parallelweg находится музей НОВМ. Я думал, там обычный разворотный треугольник.
Checking list completed ready to go !!! LOL😄
In 2018 I had the privilege to drive one of their PCCs from the museum to Scheveningen. That was amidst all regular traffic. Great fun !! And no, I am not a tram driver in any way. At the time, you could book a 30 min "driving lesson" in a PCC with an instructor at a very reasonable price. Unfortunately, they don't do it anymore. I would certainly do it again.
😅ooit reed ik naar Delft met deze tram,jaaaren geleden,ik ben nu 1 jaartje ouder dan deze tram,toppie!!!🤣mooie rit,en een fijn weekend,bedankt.greetz:🍐Peer.🤣
Wat ontzettend leuk om dit te kijken. Vroeger veel in deze tram type mee gereden. De chaufeur rijdt ook wel eens De Hoftramm
Hallo,
Hoe is het met je?
Het is zo goed om ritten met historische trams te zien en er komen er nog meer.
Ik volg je kanaal en ik zal er altijd zijn, ongeacht het kanaal.
Bedankt voor weer een uitstekende en fantastische video. Ik hoop dat er nog meer video's komen en ik ga je kanaal volgen.
Goed werk of veilige rust!
Een knuffel!
I always wondered if you ever got to do anything with the museum trams we would occasionally see in your videos. Are you a museum member, or were you just a “tourist” on this ride? This particular model was almost exactly like the PCC cars I rode in Philadelphia when I was growing up, even into the 1970’s. The one I rode most was the route 13 to see a girl I was dating. It used to depart from Center City Philly in the subway tunnels where there was no street traffic and the operator could really get the unit wound up; I think we used to get up to 40 mph in the tunnels whereas you rarely got above 20 or 25 mph on city streets. The windows and interior were almost identical to the US versions we had in Philly. No AC, little heat in the winter. Of course, ours had trolley poles instead of pantographs, so they were a much bigger challenge to back-pole as the drivers referred to it. Thanks very much for the ride, it brought back tremendous memories.
Ik ken uit mijn jeugd nog de 1001 t/m 1003 ( meen ik ) met geen middendeuren, maar dubbele achterdeuren.
Ben al 45 jaar weg uit Den Haag, maar zag dat er heel wat veranderd is ( logische ontwikkeling)
Fietste vaak langs de remise Wouwermanstraat op weg naar de markt Herman Koster of naar de stad.
Was even a trip down memory lane 😀
The "don't run people over" lever under the front is a nice touch... way to improve on the design guys.
In 1959, Poland ordered the first batch of PCC-Westinghouse electrical equipment from ACEC. This allowed us to start the production of a Polish copy of the PCC cars, type Konstal 13N.
The Tatra's of Czechoslovakia where build under licence of the St Louis Car Co right?
@@RunawayTrain2502 Czechoslovakia bought the license in 1948 from TRC (Transit Research Corporation, a subsidiary of ERPCC). On the basis of the license, the CKD Tatra T1 car was created in 1952. In 1956, two T1 cars were purchased for Warsaw, which were quickly tested and copied, resulting in the Konstal 11N project and a simplified version of the 12N. Unfortunately, the Polish electrical industry was not able to introduce Wetinghouse-type electrical equipment into production at that time, and an attempt to purchase such equipment in Czechoslovakia was refused. Equipment of this type could be purchased from the Belgian ACEC, but the equipment was different from the one in T1 (control voltage 40V instead of 24V), so the design had to be changed, and the design of the wheels was changed from the Silent type of T1 to the Super Silent type, such as in the Belgian BN, this is how the 13N car was created and sent into production. In Poland, attempts were made to introduce PCC cars already in 1947, when an agreement was signed with the Swedish company ASJ, which purchased licenses from TRC for the purposes of the contract with Poland. For unknown reasons, the contract was not concluded and ASJ built only 2 units. PCC A28 for Stockholm.
Leuk!
De Schedeldoekshaven is wel een stukje veranderd. Ben er al jaren niet meer geweest :)
Our last PCC in Allegheny County was retired in 2001 if I recall...
Wat leuk om te zien!
Ook grappig dat de bestuurder niet afgeschermd zit.
Rij je een aantal wissels nu open?
Great Tram.Love that window setup.
But that shield at the drivers desk would annoy me
it 's a 1952 design
They’re so narrow!
Bij een PCC tram denk ik altijd aan een 2 richting tram, maar dat kom vast omdat ik maar een paar Belgische trammen heb gezien die dit wel waren.
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Do you use pedals to drive this tram? I have never seen such a tram before.
Prachtig
Thanks for the video, very interesting! A few questions:
Why does he check under the seats at 5:58?
If I understand correctly, modern trams have a system that communicates with the switches/points and automatically sets them to the correct position(?) Are these vintage trams retrofitted with the modern system or how does that work?
A few times (like 24:29) he reaches down to the lower right to do something. What is he doing?
At 5.58 I was checking the amount of brake-sand there was left, which was plenty!
The system for the switches, which is called VeTag (vehicle tagging) and is nowadays modernised to the new VeCom-system (Vehicle Communication) is actually already over 60 years old! So the original set-up in this tram still works with the modern infrastructure. This technology hasn't changed that much since. With this system we can simply enter the line we want to drive, and the presetted directions in the switches change accordingly. But when I want to differ from this route, I need to change the line in the cabinet on the right. So that's what I was doing :-) I'll make sure to film this for a future video!
That's super cool that the system is still backwards compatible decades later. Thanks for the explanation.
One thing I'm still wondering: If the tram itself has to know all the lines and switch locations, what happens when there are changes to the lines or new tracks are built? For a modern tram I would assume only a simple software update is needed, but how about these old ones?
Leuke video.
Er is iets dat ik me al een tijdje afvraag: ik neem aan dat de trambestuurder, bij een wissel, zelf kan kiezen welke kant hij/zij op gaat (ik zie immer nooit dat er iets beweegt op een tramwissel). Hoe werkt dit?
Ik weet niet hoe het werkt bij de PCC maar bij een gewone tram zit een transponder onder de tram die de lijncode naar de wissel stuurt wanneer die over een lus heen rijdt en dat gaat de wissel de juist stand in (kijk naar de blauwe driehoeken voor de wissels) maar bestuurders kunnen met dat kastje ( ik ben vergeten hoe dat heet) ook zelf een richting kiezen voor de wissel. De enige redenen dat een bestuurder zou uitstappen is dat de wissel alleen met de hand bediend kan worden of dat de lijncode niet is gelezen en de wissel niet is vergrendeld wat te zien is aan geen blauwe driehoek.
do the tram drivers drive the buses aswell or is that a dedicated team
seperate professions , so dedicated teams.
Een icoon voor denhaag
if it was built in 1962 then it is 62 years old not 72
They were the ugliest trams both on the outside and inside ever built. Fortunately we never had any here.