Thank you Andrew and Joe! Joe, I'm 56 in June, I'm an electronics engineer, a software engineer by degrees and experience, also a draftsman and electrician. Ten years after the death of my famous artist and sculptor Dad, Edgar Bowlin Sr. 1919-2001, in 2010 I had a dream he told me that I must paint. I said Dad I'm an engineer, a draftsman, but I can't paint. He said, son, you can and you will, it's your time, so PAINT! I got up that frigid Saturday morning in January 2010 and painted a landscape. I have been painting in oil and pastel, sketching in watercolor, graphite, charcoal for 13 years now. I FEEL EVERY WORD JOE SAID. I am concerned about technology, much of which, I've been a part of for 38 years now. I am a jazz guitarist, like my mentor, Jim McVicker, who is one of the greatest living oil artists who also plays Alto Sax. Our creativity is far and away from technology, and besides photography and photoshop, I do not, will not, have no plans to use technology in my art! Like Joe, I came up as one of the last generations to learn drafting and graphics without a computer, and I am very thankful!
Wow. For those artists for whom painting is not a job or a hobby, but a fulfillment of something they know they were born to do and never stop thinking about it, this particular podcast just simply scratches that itch. A genuine exchange of heartfelt discussion. Very honest, probing, revelatory. Joe Paquet exudes teaching experience. Both Joe and Andrew seem to always have this inner dialog running all of the time, asking themselves "what does this all mean for me and my art, and how can I express it so others will understand." Impressive! Thank you guys!
Doing art is a connection with life. Like Joe says it's a feeling, an expression. It's the same as closing your eyes and losing yourself in the music. It's pure spirit
Thank you Andrew for this interview of the wonderful Joe Paquet. I came across Joe Paquet's work quite by accident and was astounded that he could find such beauty in industrial scenes and rough ramshackle elements. . His personal attitude and approach to painting I can really relate to. I love his humility and honesty and it shows in the work. He is not painting grandiose themes and "pretty" bucolic scenes but in the end he manages to always find beauty in the commonplace and that takes great skill and vision. Because I admired his work and trusted his good instincts I decided to apply for a residency to the Padula Art Center where Joe taught a workshop and will be returning. I want to thank him for sharing this information. . I have always loved and wanted to paint in the footsteps of Corot in the campania of Italy and in a few weeks I will be there. Much of what was discussed in this interview I will ponder for awhile. The one phrase I will take away and write in my journal is "Painting is an organic process that comes through solitude". Again, I could not agree more with this sentiment. so thank you gentlemen I wish you both well. Andrew I love your work too and I think you have built a very strong connection with many people and are very helpful in sharing information especially to novices.
Everyone making art or painting needs to listen to this. This helped clarify some of my own values as an artist "popularity has become confused with substance"-something I see in plein air contests and instagram. He talked about getting criticized in art school for saying he liked Wyeth. I can relate, was completely called out in an art history class 20 years ago (in NYC) for daring to say I liked timeless art or art with virtues like beauty.
I’m 15 minutes into this and have already taken a page of notes. I can’t express how much I am getting from these deep talks among you two. I get caught up in the mechanics and start to feel anxious as though I’m performing. This conversation is going to change my thinking… ahem… I mean feeling while I’m painting.
As my 65th year comes to a close, having worked as an Art professor, Art Director, Graphic Designer and Illustrator, all the time being an Artist, all this resonates so deeply... thanks for being... REAL!
Theres some great nuggets in this podcast but at most I loved hearing this guy go on a grumpy tear about everything lol!! Andrew - "How do you feel about flying kites?" Joe - "Omg Kites?! Back in my day kites were simple with four corners and a tail and a string and we were happy y'know? No showin off it was just you and your kite!! Now you've got animal shaped Kites, SuperHero shaped kites, Kites that people surf with I mean.. we've lost our soul! Our Simplicity! Those kites are narcissistic flying spotlights for cryin out loud!"
This was an incredible conversation! I’m not the greatest artist, but I paint and draw what inspires me, what I enjoy, and what motivates me and me alone. I’ve sold a few, but I strive to improve my process for me and if someone else likes it and wants to buy it…that’s the icing on the cake, but it’s not the ultimate objective. Painting is my way to completely disconnect from the craziness of this sinful world and all it’s tragedy to enjoy the beauty of creation. Thank you for this!
Some people are natural born teachers. He is one. Loved this episode. So much wisdom. I felt like a dry sponge soaking up and soaking up more and more wisdom. " Why not feel your way to a better painting instead of trying to think your way there.
AWESOME content, both of you. Forgive this shameless boast, but I recently just finished my first set of mentorship sessions with Joe in his studio. It was a HUGE privilege being able to do it in person surrounded by his amazing work while being fed his words of wisdom. Joe’s approach suited me well. His exuberance and passion for art is infectious. I will be watching this episode a few times more with a notebook and pen in hand. What I got out of this upload was the importance of having the courage to express what you love. Working from internal vs. external motivations. And how good it is to expose yourself to the peace in solitude. My Father would always preach to me when I was young on how good it was to experience boredom. Being unplugged is a virtue now a days. Spending time alone letting your mind wander can be raw, exhilarating and extremely therapeutic. Like many I had an epiphany during the early days of the COVID lock down. Being an extrovert, and a big people pleaser there was a mild panic at first, but what I discovered was the pure BLISS in the solitude of it vs. isolation. It was then I started to listen to my heart again and gained a rebirth to my passion for making art. Thank you, Andrew and Joe, for the incredible service you provide to artists like me. Cheers, Gary
I found Joe's statement about his art being a piece of his life so profound. I think many of us artists feel this effect. After we create a piece that we are truly happy with, completely satisfied with the end result, that feeling of producing something worthy of sharing, It is incredibly rewarding. It is giving the world a part of ourselves. This is a wonderful and insightful interview. Thanks Andrew
This is honestly by far the best video I've come across on TH-cam. At first I thought it would be a bit long for 2 hours but I was greatly surprised by the relevancy of everything that was being said! It's just a real, sincere talk and I'm all for it. Currently trying to understand colors and painting is complete unknown territory, but so fascinating. This conversation reminded me of what my art teacher said when I asked him how to blend skin tones for a masterstudy of a Felix Valeton portrait: "Ah, that my friend, is the only question I cannot give you the answer." He's right in the sense that learning to see nuances and representing those subtle changes and knowing how to control the brush comes from personal experience and understanding things oneself. Very powerful advice indeed.
Wow! As an almost 60 year old, I can attest to how we were taught at the University of Georgia art department in the early 80s. This video connects with what I know to be true on a spiritual level but wasn't sure others felt the same. This is a freeing video not just on an artistic level, but a life level.
If you are confident in your own critical thinking skills, honest about questioning and inquiry until the absolute truth is reached you don't need others to feel the same. You know you're connecting with and their the art and it's creation.
You've shared a feast for this geezer, for which I thank you. The career I enjoyed was playing the piano in restaurants and hotels, so my skills rested there - a genetic contracture ended public performance, though simultaneously the music scene was changing. A 5-star hotel I played in at the time placed a player grand in the lobby so they no longer had to deal with artists and all the ten-thousand things which are connected to hiring, firing and protocols. This is actually true. The digital reality had seeped in. I've been honing drawing skills over these years, enough that I grok these discussions, and these are pure joy for me. Ambitions don't exist - I'm 77, and feel that though I enjoy the creative process, to face a regime as painters do is way beyond my imagination to consider. But, to appreciate that regime and dedication is in my understanding, and gives much joy to me - and both of you have my full respect, and your works move me tremendously. Thank you for sharing your time together with us - deeply instructive!🙏
Hi Andrew just wanted to say how inspiring this podcast was. So refreshing hearing someone talk about painting from the perspective of feeling the landscape and painting things you love as opposed to whats currently trending. I got so much out of this podcast my husband listened along with me and wrote copious notes. We both so enjoyed it.
Hello Andrew, thank you for this interview with Joe Paquet who is not only a phenomenol painter but a wonderful human being. I agree with you that he is a great inspiration for his work and his "work ethic". I connected with him by accident on facebook and it was an advertisement for his workshop in Italy. I decided after looking at his work which really spoke to me that I would like go to this little town in Italy. I did a residency there and it was glorious and I hope to return. I know I could have learned something from his workshop especially more in depth about the prismatic palette, but at my age I feel utterly saturated with information and feel confident in my own approach with a little help from time to time but I can not change at this point, nor do I want to. I can accept "wisdom". Everything in this podcast comes from the heart. Joe is truly one of a kind out there in the sea of posers and pleasers. He paints from his heart as he espouses and it truly shows. You are also a wonderful painter and more important for this podcast you are a sincere and thoughtful listener. I think if we are to grow as an artist we must question what we do and readjust our thinking , even in small ways. Awareness makes a huge difference. ...... note: I just saw that I had made a comment already below. I guess I enjoyed listening a second time!
Such a brilliant conversation. I met Joe many years ago at an event called Paint Across America. I stood next to him as we painted together and I was just learning the craft of plein air painting. He offered some wonderful advice in a kind and generous way. He is as truly genuine as he seems to be in this conversation. Thanks for sharing this conversation Andrew.
OMG ANDREW WYETH is my favorite American painter!!!...never trite or sentimental.. he captured my heart and my mind with his eloquence! and I was an art student during those 'conceptual' 1960s!!
24:52 "You still have an image but the humanity is gone"... That's true on so many levels! I hate to show my age but do you remember "Is it Real or is it Memorex"? LOL
Thank you both for letting us all listen in to your great conversation! I couldn't agree more to what the two of you feel about Art integrity and creating from heart and soul.
I love how everything you do relates to spirituality for me. I look at nuances when it comes to that, but hadn't thought about it in relation to my paintings. It's so true and I think it is sexy beautiful! Feeling your way rather than thinking your way is soul. 🥰
Hi, A beautiful conversation! What stays with me the most is the part where you both are talking about thinking or feelings art. I hear you speak using the Words connecting with thinking a lot. And working for food and drinks and all soort of things. My father said that one has to remain 10 years doing the same to make it in the world. My reply to this is still that my way/goal of art making would not be completed in this life when I would do so. I had a lifelong need to express myself and suddenly 2 years ago my passion was gone. So… I didnot make it in the world, had a very intens life, suffered a lot, made no money….. But I did not fail. Although moneyless I considder myself one of the most rich people on Earth. I Heart Joe speak of painting from the hart and that is something that can only come in time. Expression is only needed because we have to tell ourselfs something. When one is passioned one has to loose the ties that bind to become the real self and be Free without feelings above someone else. Joe might feel it’s for everyone to have. But not everyone is passioned. Love and hate in arts. My struggle between me and myself and the I. My war is over without Amy casualties :) It is important to follow the hearts directions to finish to procces…. But does one wants to finish and be able to create anything without a drive to create? I you want a real challenge: try to paint like Van Gogh. Paint a finished painting in 1 day. Most probebly you will not paint the same stile and be a changed painter. The big question is: The red or the blue pill Does one take the chance Is it a risk or an oppertunety It’s all in the mind Are you ready for the next door?
This conversation was off tge charts. So much yo think about. I'll be listening to it multiple times! Thank you both so much for your generosity of spirit at knowledge!
Thank you for making this conversation available. It's refreshing and inspiring to see and hear the thoughts of artists who value the importance of real and authentic art making process. The authentic process is what I believe to be the main purpose of what the artist was created for - to make readily available the sense of wonder and grounding to the deeper purposes for humanity.
Two amazing artists who love and breathe their passion ….ART in every way. Passionate about their artistic bond they genuinely share in the same zone and same wave length. So inspirational to watch, listen and learn . Thank you so much for sharing, Jose from Melbourne Australia.
I’ve got about a half hour left and never want this to end. It is so packed with honesty guided by knowledge. Andrew, these talks with you and Joe border on life-changing. Well, they are art-changing for sure. One thing I’m coming away with: I need to spend way less time on social media looking at the work of others because it leads to insecurity and confusion about my personal vision for painting a subject. My mind fills with “what about this approach and that ‘rule’.” I get way too into my analytical brain and forget the heart-felt element of creating. I love what he said about poetry first and then edit. That’s the way I wrote articles and blogs for years - just let it flow and then go back and refine. I think I need to do that with painting as well. I keep approaching the easel with anxiety rather than love for my subject. Many times, I’ve heard, don’t think of this as a tree, but just shapes and colors. Well, that doesn’t work for me because I adore trees and depicting them. This talk has been so freeing! Thank you both to Andrew and Joe for this.
The humanity..the feel its all...I learn quick drawing gesture you learn to capture from 15 min to1 min amazing what what you can see in 1 min and sketch ..yes! Loved it Will look deeper at whole painting not sections ..again. xx thank you for reminder 🍁🥰💖🌼🌍☮
Man,.. Thank you, Joe and Andrew. Really agree and resonate with so many of your comments on Art and Life in general. We so need to respect and be kind to each other and the world around us. Let's not let unreasoned "political correctness" fool us - we can hurt people with this. Speak up for the truth with clarity and kindness. And what is wrong with a little discussion and debate - let's be open to having our minds changed if we need it! Btw, I just paint for the JOY of it - fun, relaxation and therapy. Your workshops sound wonderful :-)
I absolutely loved this podcast! I usually do, however this one is very special, so much so that I intend to watch it again. I thank you for that. I have found that I am addicted to early morning sketching, it has become such a sacred time for me, when all that can be heard is the stroke of the pencil, building in momentum and the sound of my heart. I have wondered about the affect it has on my feeling of well-being. After much introspection and analysis, I have come to the conclusion that when I am creating in such a manner and really paying attention to what I am doing; I am pulled into a state of becoming fully and completely present to the process. So, in essence, being in a state of total presence of whatever it is that I am doing, pulls me outside of the shallow and troublesome waters of my life and into the bliss of an egoless time. I refer to these small moments as "Dancing With God", they feed something inside of me, soul food. This episode reminded me of some of those moments. Does this statement read as pretentious? I hope not, that was not my intention; it's just me.
Thankyou Thankyou Thankyou Andrew and Joe... your conversation has unblocked me.. wonderful heartfelt, soulful ,truthful content . All of which validated but set free things that held me back.
ANDREW, THANKS SO MUCH FOR HAVING JOE GIVE US SUCH A WONDERFUL LOOK AT THESE THINGS, WE REALLY NEED TO THINK ABOUT. GOD BLESS YOU GUYS. MUCH LOVE & LIGHT. BRUCE DOWN IN SOUTHWEST UTAH. A BIG, BIG FAN. 😇
Love this interview...even if it has a touch of "Get off my lawn" mentality. Interesting that he brings up Anthony B and states about his honesty when while I loved what AB did, his books etc, I felt he was mostly a fraud,...so unusual that all I thought of AB was he was a content creator - self promoter...and a great one. What is great about this podcast is that it gets you thinking. Agree about doing what you love...I love to paint palette knife paintings of pop culture and I love to paint classical oil paintings in an Old Master style. I have heard many times that having conflicting styles will hold me back...so be it. Perfect timing on the podcast with Joe as I am just beiginning my Plein Air journey and expanding from oils to watercolors for oudoor quick work. I spend so much time outdoors yet only h ave painted outside as an extended studio.
"Slickness and cleverness have never been traits that I'm attracted to, in people or in anything else. " (Might not be quite right, but that's what I remember.) I think it's possible to use the tools out there without losing our humanity, but we have to be thoughtful, even viligent, at all times.
Hey, Andrew! The way you paint clouds is "the next level". Very few artists out there are capable of creating that mesmerizing realism you do, and learning that skill has obviously taken alot of time, determination and sacrifice. I began painting at the age of 45, and one of the important things you (and a few others) have contributed to my own journey are these conversations with other great dedicated artists. Keep up the astonishing work! Eleo
Andrew, this was a wonderful interview with Joe P. and I appreciate much of what he was saying. On the other hand I love your humbleness and reverential respect for nature. You are a brilliant artist.
Hey Andrew, Thank you for allowing us to listen to this conversation between you and Joe. It really has resonated with me. I recently quit a local art school after 10 years because I felt I had to start taking the chance to develop my own work. In all honesty, it was difficult because I love the place. However having listened to your conversation, my feeling it was the right thing to do at this time has been confirmed and it brings some ease of mind. Besides that, there were so many points you and Joe touched upon that reflect ideas I have going on in my head. So a very well meant thank you, this one episode really has had an impact. With friendly regards, Christof
Not exaggerating in one bit, but this was profoundly life-changing! Wow! I mean, the idolatry thing, I'm caught up on that, giving too much of an importance to my concept. I gotta let God's glory shine more through, I'm only a vessel. Amazing talk, amazing!
Very well said Joe!! You see people not knowing how to do something and instead of spending the time to learn, they say a bunch of shrap like if I want something realistic, I would go and take a photo. It is not about photo realism. It's about what you can and cannot do. These kind of people, if they are not lucky, they give up painting eventually; if they are lucky and know how to market themselves, then they change the course of what people think about real art. (And they have!!)
What a fantastic conversation. I'll listen to it again a few times as there are so many gems in here that has been discussed. Thank you for taking the time to do these podcasts and I'm with you, listen to learn and ask when not understanding or unsure of what next, what's wrong, what is there to improve? Keeping one's own identity but incorporate the lessons learned by others. Looking thru the eyes of others at what they see and experience and improve on that where you fall short. Thank you Andrew. This means a lot for us as artists, as there is so much still to learn and to experience
This was most enlightening, moving and with real passion that is in every true artist. How can it be lost, it never will because it's a gift given by the greatest artist "God". He will see us taken care of.... Thankyou for this gift of true genius truth, in a fake filled emptiness they want. Empty heads!!!
Whew...this interview just made me so happy. Verbalized and encapsulated so many of my feeling on art. I feel inspired, relieved and am exhaling. Thank you.
Great interview. I’m a comic artist and it’s great to find likeminded men. And people are sick of agendas. It’s rampant in the comics industry and trying to filter into the movies of comics. And people aren’t putting up with it anymore.
WOW!!! Knocked my socks off with this podcast! Nothing you and Joe said didn't take my thoughts reeling. SO many nuggets in this one. Thank you to both of you for this spectacular and thought provoking podcast.
Thank you Andrew and Joe. I so enjoyed this podcast. I felt quite inspired to keep going with my art. Simply to enjoy the process. I painted an entire background to a painting while I was listening to this. I was painting from a photograph as winter is in full swing up here in Canada. I am really looking forward to painting outdoors next summer, which I haven\t done for a very long time. Thanks again for the inspiring words.
These lessons are humbling for Andrew. The last one was raw umber use or burnt umber as a Virgil mentioned as a bad long term option. And now with Joe that he can tell when someone starts with the sky and works their way down. Andrew your model is exactly that! Will their be an adjustment in the next painting demonstration? We are truly on a learning journey together. Those pathways are fractals. We reach the end of one and the next is presented to us.
This interview was a real "gem" and it certainly has helped me see where I have to grow and change how I think about a lot of things. Thank you so much Andrew.
This is probably the single most influential interview with an artist I’ve ever heard. Reams of notes, massive insight and perspective that I can consume and apply.
Amazing video. I've been following you for about 4 years, praise God your a brother in christ, and hearing you share this is next level awesomeness, the rest of the video is icing and custard on the donut. Psalms 9:10
Iv listened to Joes episode on Jeff Heins channel about ten times. Excited to hear nuggets of information from this episode. Thank you for doing this, it’s truly changed how I paint and think.
Also, what the take away for me was not to focus on what others want or on what you could get for a painting, but on what you love. Also, I never thought about those differences in painting from a photograph than from actually being there in the moment painting.
There is only one ‘’like’’ button and i can only press it once. How can i express how meaningful and important this interview is with that limitation? But i can say a deep ‘thank you’ to you both as a poor substitute. Only two working artists who are still studying the game can have this type of in depth conversation….!
Joe Paquet has been a solid inspiration for me for a long time. I’ve done a few studies of his paintings because I absolutely love the how they draw you in and I’ve learned a lot even by that silly exercise. Listen to him talk and seeing how poetic he is about the process that goes into creating his art explains a lot about the feelings that his paintings exude. What a joy of a podcast. Thanks Andrew for getting him on.
En Plein Air - Watching another Artist at work. His tip was to quickly capture the light and dark areas in one tone before the light changes. Rosie Hoy
I think it's like what Stephen King says about his creative process. He's says his stories come to him, fully formed, from his inner muse. And he is like an archaeologist digging up the story, brushing away the dirt, to get as much of the story on paper as he can before he forgets it. So to apply that to art: Look at various images and see what stimulates your inner muse. See what speaks to you. Art shouldn't be a chore. I think it's a largely subconscious process.
Thank you two for an awesome discussion ☀️ I painted along with this video and I am grateful for the oppotunity to listen to these inspiring talks! I will be sure to paint more of what I love instead of what is easy to sell and take risks but also to inspire others to do the same ♥️🖼️
Being human and organic and real and honest is about our identity as created in the image of God! Modernity is bullshit, sorry for being so blunt-worded. May the Lord Jesus bless you, Tisch, Joe and everybody. We are brothers and sisters and we all just have one King, and He's kind and just!
Yet more amazing advice that helps one become a better artist. Thank you both. Though not finished the podcast yet, it reminds me of the CW Mundy advice along the same lines "Get out of the way of the painting!" What you both say is so true. I'm starting my painting'career'very late in my life (74) but I don't care. I'll learn anything and try to grow my inner artist. Sorry, I'm rambling.
Thanks guys for this thought provoking conversation. I can relate in many ways; confirming attitudes, and questioning my own ideas. Thanks! You both were great!
MARK-MAKING...... such an excellent interview with Joe!!... and What he says about Monet rings true for me as well.. I always felts that Monet's waterlilies became very formulaic mark-making.
What a great episode. Such a heartfelt talk, it did sure leave a mark. I actually paused it midway, to go for a stroll with my sketchbook. That one phrase "anyone can paint the golden hour..."... man, that poked me right through. Thanks guys.
Yeah - I used to feel annoyed when the instructor takes all the morning light then says go paint at noon in the flat light! Then we have something scheduled at the evening light time.
Creating Art is a uniquely human process. That is a good reason a particular music genre uses the word "Soul" to describe music. Thank you, Sam Cooke. People aren't going to stop making AI. And people will still pay someone or some company who uses it to create an image for them. But, AI does not qualify as Art, aesthetically or intellectually. Please look at this example the next time you see a picture at an art fair. In 2022, the Colorado State Fair's annual art competition gave prizes in all the usual categories: painting, quilting, and sculpture. But one entrant made his entry with an artificial intelligence program that turns lines of text into hyper-realistic graphics. He took home the blue ribbon in the fair's contest for emerging digital artists, making it one of the first A.I.-generated pieces to win such a prize. The next time you relish celebrating the Artist's mind, the human soul, or a unique talent and ability to inspire feelings through an original piece of Art, be sure it's real and not generated by a computer. Better yet, commission a living, breathing Artist to paint something for you!
Thank you Andrew and Joe! Joe, I'm 56 in June, I'm an electronics engineer, a software engineer by degrees and experience, also a draftsman and electrician. Ten years after the death of my famous artist and sculptor Dad, Edgar Bowlin Sr. 1919-2001, in 2010 I had a dream he told me that I must paint. I said Dad I'm an engineer, a draftsman, but I can't paint. He said, son, you can and you will, it's your time, so PAINT! I got up that frigid Saturday morning in January 2010 and painted a landscape. I have been painting in oil and pastel, sketching in watercolor, graphite, charcoal for 13 years now. I FEEL EVERY WORD JOE SAID. I am concerned about technology, much of which, I've been a part of for 38 years now. I am a jazz guitarist, like my mentor, Jim McVicker, who is one of the greatest living oil artists who also plays Alto Sax. Our creativity is far and away from technology, and besides photography and photoshop, I do not, will not, have no plans to use technology in my art! Like Joe, I came up as one of the last generations to learn drafting and graphics without a computer, and I am very thankful!
Where can we see your work?
Some people talk just to hear their own voice, and then there are people like Joe, whom I can listen to for hours. A man truly full of wisdom.
Greatly appreciated
Wow. For those artists for whom painting is not a job or a hobby, but a fulfillment of something they know they were born to do and never stop thinking about it, this particular podcast just simply scratches that itch. A genuine exchange of heartfelt discussion. Very honest, probing, revelatory. Joe Paquet exudes teaching experience. Both Joe and Andrew seem to always have this inner dialog running all of the time, asking themselves "what does this all mean for me and my art, and how can I express it so others will understand." Impressive! Thank you guys!
Doing art is a connection with life. Like Joe says it's a feeling, an expression. It's the same as closing your eyes and losing yourself in the music. It's pure spirit
This is the most profound talk I have ever heard - bringing in quantum science and spirituality into what’s going on
Thank you Andrew for this interview of the wonderful Joe Paquet. I came across Joe Paquet's work quite by accident and was astounded that he could find such beauty in industrial scenes and rough ramshackle elements. . His personal attitude and approach to painting I can really relate to. I love his humility and honesty and it shows in the work. He is not painting grandiose themes and "pretty" bucolic scenes but in the end he manages to always find beauty in the commonplace and that takes great skill and vision. Because I admired his work and trusted his good instincts I decided to apply for a residency to the Padula Art Center where Joe taught a workshop and will be returning. I want to thank him for sharing this information. . I have always loved and wanted to paint in the footsteps of Corot in the campania of Italy and in a few weeks I will be there. Much of what was discussed in this interview I will ponder for awhile. The one phrase I will take away and write in my journal is "Painting is an organic process that comes through solitude". Again, I could not agree more with this sentiment. so thank you gentlemen I wish you both well. Andrew I love your work too and I think you have built a very strong connection with many people and are very helpful in sharing information especially to novices.
Everyone making art or painting needs to listen to this. This helped clarify some of my own values as an artist "popularity has become confused with substance"-something I see in plein air contests and instagram. He talked about getting criticized in art school for saying he liked Wyeth. I can relate, was completely called out in an art history class 20 years ago (in NYC) for daring to say I liked timeless art or art with virtues like beauty.
"I wont talk to you about brushwork, but I will talk to you about character."
I’m 15 minutes into this and have already taken a page of notes. I can’t express how much I am getting from these deep talks among you two. I get caught up in the mechanics and start to feel anxious as though I’m performing. This conversation is going to change my thinking… ahem… I mean feeling while I’m painting.
As my 65th year comes to a close, having worked as an Art professor, Art Director, Graphic Designer and Illustrator, all the time being an Artist, all this resonates so deeply... thanks for being... REAL!
Theres some great nuggets in this podcast but at most I loved hearing this guy go on a grumpy tear about everything lol!!
Andrew - "How do you feel about flying kites?"
Joe - "Omg Kites?! Back in my day kites were simple with four corners and a tail and a string and we were happy y'know? No showin off it was just you and your kite!!
Now you've got animal shaped Kites, SuperHero shaped kites, Kites that people surf with I mean.. we've lost our soul! Our Simplicity! Those kites are narcissistic flying spotlights for cryin out loud!"
This was an incredible conversation! I’m not the greatest artist, but I paint and draw what inspires me, what I enjoy, and what motivates me and me alone. I’ve sold a few, but I strive to improve my process for me and if someone else likes it and wants to buy it…that’s the icing on the cake, but it’s not the ultimate objective. Painting is my way to completely disconnect from the craziness of this sinful world and all it’s tragedy to enjoy the beauty of creation. Thank you for this!
Some people are natural born teachers. He is one. Loved this episode. So much wisdom. I felt like a dry sponge soaking up and soaking up more and more wisdom. " Why not feel your way to a better painting instead of trying to think your way there.
I totally agree. There’s no satisfaction or feeling in making something that doesn’t come from your heart and hands.
AWESOME content, both of you. Forgive this shameless boast, but I recently just finished my first set of mentorship sessions with Joe in his studio. It was a HUGE privilege being able to do it in person surrounded by his amazing work while being fed his words of wisdom. Joe’s approach suited me well. His exuberance and passion for art is infectious. I will be watching this episode a few times more with a notebook and pen in hand.
What I got out of this upload was the importance of having the courage to express what you love. Working from internal vs. external motivations. And how good it is to expose yourself to the peace in solitude. My Father would always preach to me when I was young on how good it was to experience boredom. Being unplugged is a virtue now a days. Spending time alone letting your mind wander can be raw, exhilarating and extremely therapeutic. Like many I had an epiphany during the early days of the COVID lock down. Being an extrovert, and a big people pleaser there was a mild panic at first, but what I discovered was the pure BLISS in the solitude of it vs. isolation. It was then I started to listen to my heart again and gained a rebirth to my passion for making art.
Thank you, Andrew and Joe, for the incredible service you provide to artists like me.
Cheers,
Gary
I found Joe's statement about his art being a piece of his life so profound. I think many of us artists feel this effect.
After we create a piece that we are truly happy with, completely satisfied with the end result, that feeling of producing something worthy of sharing, It is incredibly rewarding.
It is giving the world a part of ourselves.
This is a wonderful and insightful interview.
Thanks Andrew
This is honestly by far the best video I've come across on TH-cam. At first I thought it would be a bit long for 2 hours but I was greatly surprised by the relevancy of everything that was being said! It's just a real, sincere talk and I'm all for it. Currently trying to understand colors and painting is complete unknown territory, but so fascinating. This conversation reminded me of what my art teacher said when I asked him how to blend skin tones for a masterstudy of a Felix Valeton portrait: "Ah, that my friend, is the only question I cannot give you the answer." He's right in the sense that learning to see nuances and representing those subtle changes and knowing how to control the brush comes from personal experience and understanding things oneself. Very powerful advice indeed.
Thank you for listening
Wow! As an almost 60 year old, I can attest to how we were taught at the University of Georgia art department in the early 80s. This video connects with what I know to be true on a spiritual level but wasn't sure others felt the same. This is a freeing video not just on an artistic level, but a life level.
Thank you for listening
If you are confident in your own critical thinking skills, honest about questioning and inquiry until the absolute truth is reached you don't need others to feel the same. You know you're connecting with and their the art and it's creation.
You've shared a feast for this geezer, for which I thank you. The career I enjoyed was playing the piano in restaurants and hotels, so my skills rested there - a genetic contracture ended public performance, though simultaneously the music scene was changing. A 5-star hotel I played in at the time placed a player grand in the lobby so they no longer had to deal with artists and all the ten-thousand things which are connected to hiring, firing and protocols. This is actually true. The digital reality had seeped in. I've been honing drawing skills over these years, enough that I grok these discussions, and these are pure joy for me. Ambitions don't exist - I'm 77, and feel that though I enjoy the creative process, to face a regime as painters do is way beyond my imagination to consider. But, to appreciate that regime and dedication is in my understanding, and gives much joy to me - and both of you have my full respect, and your works move me tremendously. Thank you for sharing your time together with us - deeply instructive!🙏
Hi Andrew just wanted to say how inspiring this podcast was. So refreshing hearing someone talk about painting from the perspective of feeling the landscape and painting things
you love as opposed to whats currently trending.
I got so much out of this podcast my husband listened along with me and wrote copious notes. We both so enjoyed it.
Cheers to you two for championing truth and reality, and having the guts to live (and paint) to honor those.
Hello Andrew, thank you for this interview with Joe Paquet who is not only a phenomenol painter but a wonderful human being. I agree with you that he is a great inspiration for his work and his "work ethic". I connected with him by accident on facebook and it was an advertisement for his workshop in Italy. I decided after looking at his work which really spoke to me that I would like go to this little town in Italy. I did a residency there and it was glorious and I hope to return. I know I could have learned something from his workshop especially more in depth about the prismatic palette, but at my age I feel utterly saturated with information and feel confident in my own approach with a little help from time to time but I can not change at this point, nor do I want to. I can accept "wisdom". Everything in this podcast comes from the heart. Joe is truly one of a kind out there in the sea of posers and pleasers. He paints from his heart as he espouses and it truly shows. You are also a wonderful painter and more important for this podcast you are a sincere and thoughtful listener. I think if we are to grow as an artist we must question what we do and readjust our thinking , even in small ways. Awareness makes a huge difference. ...... note: I just saw that I had made a comment already below. I guess I enjoyed listening a second time!
Such a brilliant conversation. I met Joe many years ago at an event called Paint Across America. I stood next to him as we painted together and I was just learning the craft of plein air painting. He offered some wonderful advice in a kind and generous way. He is as truly genuine as he seems to be in this conversation. Thanks for sharing this conversation Andrew.
OMG ANDREW WYETH is my favorite American painter!!!...never trite or sentimental.. he captured my heart and my mind with his eloquence! and I was an art student during those 'conceptual' 1960s!!
24:52 "You still have an image but the humanity is gone"... That's true on so many levels! I hate to show my age but do you remember "Is it Real or is it Memorex"? LOL
Its a spiritual journey no matter what you're doing..where were going...
We need truth..xxx..live the love
Thank you both for letting us all listen in to your great conversation! I couldn't agree more to what the two of you feel about Art integrity and creating from heart and soul.
Joe Paquet is a great painter from life and that was a thoroughly enjoyable insight into his thinking. Very inspiring. Thank you, Andrew.
I didn't know this painter, so after listenning this video I checked on the Internet and wahou, what a great painter he is!
I love how everything you do relates to spirituality for me. I look at nuances when it comes to that, but hadn't thought about it in relation to my paintings. It's so true and I think it is sexy beautiful! Feeling your way rather than thinking your way is soul. 🥰
Hi, A beautiful conversation!
What stays with me the most is the part where you both are talking about thinking or feelings art. I hear you speak using the Words connecting with thinking a lot. And working for food and drinks and all soort of things. My father said that one has to remain 10 years doing the same to make it in the world. My reply to this is still that my way/goal of art making would not be completed in this life when I would do so.
I had a lifelong need to express myself and suddenly 2 years ago my passion was gone.
So… I didnot make it in the world, had a very intens life, suffered a lot, made no money…..
But I did not fail.
Although moneyless I considder myself one of the most rich people on Earth.
I Heart Joe speak of painting from the hart and that is something that can only come in time. Expression is only needed because we have to tell ourselfs something. When one is passioned one has to loose the ties that bind to become the real self and be Free without feelings above someone else. Joe might feel it’s for everyone to have. But not everyone is passioned.
Love and hate in arts. My struggle between me and myself and the I.
My war is over without Amy casualties :)
It is important to follow the hearts directions to finish to procces….
But does one wants to finish and be able to create anything without a drive to create?
I you want a real challenge: try to paint like Van Gogh. Paint a finished painting in 1 day.
Most probebly you will not paint the same stile and be a changed painter.
The big question is: The red or the blue pill
Does one take the chance
Is it a risk or an oppertunety
It’s all in the mind
Are you ready for the next door?
This conversation was off tge charts. So much yo think about. I'll be listening to it multiple times! Thank you both so much for your generosity of spirit at knowledge!
I paint because I love something and paint it as an appreciation and a joy.
Thank you for making this conversation available. It's refreshing and inspiring to see and hear the thoughts of artists who value the importance of real and authentic art making process. The authentic process is what I believe to be the main purpose of what the artist was created for - to make readily available the sense of wonder and grounding to the deeper purposes for humanity.
Two amazing artists who love and breathe their passion ….ART in every way. Passionate about their artistic bond they genuinely share in the same zone and same wave length. So inspirational to watch, listen and learn . Thank you so much for sharing, Jose from Melbourne Australia.
I’ve got about a half hour left and never want this to end. It is so packed with honesty guided by knowledge. Andrew, these talks with you and Joe border on life-changing. Well, they are art-changing for sure. One thing I’m coming away with: I need to spend way less time on social media looking at the work of others because it leads to insecurity and confusion about my personal vision for painting a subject. My mind fills with “what about this approach and that ‘rule’.” I get way too into my analytical brain and forget the heart-felt element of creating. I love what he said about poetry first and then edit. That’s the way I wrote articles and blogs for years - just let it flow and then go back and refine. I think I need to do that with painting as well. I keep approaching the easel with anxiety rather than love for my subject. Many times, I’ve heard, don’t think of this as a tree, but just shapes and colors. Well, that doesn’t work for me because I adore trees and depicting them. This talk has been so freeing! Thank you both to Andrew and Joe for this.
The humanity..the feel its all...I learn quick drawing gesture you learn to capture from 15 min to1 min amazing what what you can see in 1 min and sketch ..yes! Loved it
Will look deeper at whole painting not sections ..again. xx thank you for reminder 🍁🥰💖🌼🌍☮
Man,.. Thank you, Joe and Andrew. Really agree and resonate with so many of your comments on Art and Life in general. We so need to respect and be kind to each other and the world around us. Let's not let unreasoned "political correctness" fool us - we can hurt people with this. Speak up for the truth with clarity and kindness. And what is wrong with a little discussion and debate - let's be open to having our minds changed if we need it! Btw, I just paint for the JOY of it - fun, relaxation and therapy. Your workshops sound wonderful :-)
I absolutely loved this podcast! I usually do, however this one is very special, so much so that I intend to watch it again. I thank you for that.
I have found that I am addicted to early morning sketching, it has become such a sacred time for me, when all that can be heard is the stroke of the pencil, building in momentum and the sound of my heart. I have wondered about the affect it has on my feeling of well-being. After much introspection and analysis, I have come to the conclusion that when I am creating in such a manner and really paying attention to what I am doing; I am pulled into a state of becoming fully and completely present to the process. So, in essence, being in a state of total presence of whatever it is that I am doing, pulls me outside of the shallow and troublesome waters of my life and into the bliss of an egoless time. I refer to these small moments as "Dancing With God", they feed something inside of me, soul food. This episode reminded me of some of those moments.
Does this statement read as pretentious? I hope not, that was not my intention; it's just me.
Thankyou Thankyou Thankyou Andrew and Joe... your conversation has unblocked me.. wonderful heartfelt, soulful ,truthful content . All of which validated but set free things that held me back.
ANDREW, THANKS SO MUCH FOR HAVING JOE GIVE US SUCH A WONDERFUL LOOK AT THESE THINGS, WE REALLY NEED TO THINK ABOUT. GOD BLESS YOU GUYS. MUCH LOVE & LIGHT. BRUCE DOWN IN SOUTHWEST UTAH. A BIG, BIG FAN. 😇
Andrew, thank you for presenting yourself and Joe, two of my favorite artists. What a great conversation. I love it.
Very impactful conversation. I’ll be listening to this one twice! Thanks Andrew and Joe!🫶🏼
Love this interview...even if it has a touch of "Get off my lawn" mentality. Interesting that he brings up Anthony B and states about his honesty when while I loved what AB did, his books etc, I felt he was mostly a fraud,...so unusual that all I thought of AB was he was a content creator - self promoter...and a great one. What is great about this podcast is that it gets you thinking. Agree about doing what you love...I love to paint palette knife paintings of pop culture and I love to paint classical oil paintings in an Old Master style. I have heard many times that having conflicting styles will hold me back...so be it.
Perfect timing on the podcast with Joe as I am just beiginning my Plein Air journey and expanding from oils to watercolors for oudoor quick work. I spend so much time outdoors yet only h ave painted outside as an extended studio.
"Slickness and cleverness have never been traits that I'm attracted to, in people or in anything else. " (Might not be quite right, but that's what I remember.)
I think it's possible to use the tools out there without losing our humanity, but we have to be thoughtful, even viligent, at all times.
Hey, Andrew!
The way you paint clouds is "the next level". Very few artists out there are capable of creating that mesmerizing realism you do, and learning that skill has obviously taken alot of time, determination and sacrifice.
I began painting at the age of 45, and one of the important things you (and a few others) have contributed to my own journey are these conversations with other great dedicated artists.
Keep up the astonishing work!
Eleo
Andrew, this was a wonderful interview with Joe P. and I appreciate much of what he was saying. On the other hand I love your humbleness and reverential respect for nature. You are a brilliant artist.
Absolutely brilliant! Thank you both for letting us in on a vital conversation!
Hey Andrew,
Thank you for allowing us to listen to this conversation between you and Joe. It really has resonated with me.
I recently quit a local art school after 10 years because I felt I had to start taking the chance to develop my own work. In all honesty, it was difficult because I love the place. However having listened to your conversation, my feeling it was the right thing to do at this time has been confirmed and it brings some ease of mind.
Besides that, there were so many points you and Joe touched upon that reflect ideas I have going on in my head.
So a very well meant thank you, this one episode really has had an impact.
With friendly regards,
Christof
Not exaggerating in one bit, but this was profoundly life-changing! Wow! I mean, the idolatry thing, I'm caught up on that, giving too much of an importance to my concept. I gotta let God's glory shine more through, I'm only a vessel. Amazing talk, amazing!
Very well said Joe!! You see people not knowing how to do something and instead of spending the time to learn, they say a bunch of shrap like if I want something realistic, I would go and take a photo.
It is not about photo realism. It's about what you can and cannot do.
These kind of people, if they are not lucky, they give up painting eventually; if they are lucky and know how to market themselves, then they change the course of what people think about real art. (And they have!!)
Kongrats ; This is one of the best insites you made avalable to us : thanks Joe and Tisch !...regards out of Austria
What a fantastic conversation. I'll listen to it again a few times as there are so many gems in here that has been discussed.
Thank you for taking the time to do these podcasts and I'm with you, listen to learn and ask when not understanding or unsure of what next, what's wrong, what is there to improve?
Keeping one's own identity but incorporate the lessons learned by others. Looking thru the eyes of others at what they see and experience and improve on that where you fall short.
Thank you Andrew. This means a lot for us as artists, as there is so much still to learn and to experience
This was most enlightening, moving and with real passion that is in every true artist. How can it be lost, it never will because it's a gift given by the greatest artist "God". He will see us taken care of.... Thankyou for this gift of true genius truth, in a fake filled emptiness they want.
Empty heads!!!
Whew...this interview just made me so happy. Verbalized and encapsulated so many of my feeling on art. I feel inspired, relieved and am exhaling. Thank you.
Great interview. I’m a comic artist and it’s great to find likeminded men. And people are sick of agendas. It’s rampant in the comics industry and trying to filter into the movies of comics. And people aren’t putting up with it anymore.
I got full goosebumps listening to Andrew describe sharpening the pencil lol... Great episode!!!✌️
WOW!!! Knocked my socks off with this podcast! Nothing you and Joe said didn't take my thoughts reeling. SO many nuggets in this one. Thank you to both of you for this spectacular and thought provoking podcast.
Wow, I wish I go to one of Joe's workshops! What a wonderful teacher, you can just tell! Thanks Andrew...I love your work!
Thank you Andrew and Joe. I so enjoyed this podcast. I felt quite inspired to keep going with my art. Simply to enjoy the process. I painted an entire background to a painting while I was listening to this. I was painting from a photograph as winter is in full swing up here in Canada. I am really looking forward to painting outdoors next summer, which I haven\t done for a very long time. Thanks again for the inspiring words.
Amazing discussion….. thoroughly enjoyed and very insightful, thank you Andrew for providing this platform
MUCH LOVE AND LIGHT TO YOU & THE FAMILY. GOD BLESS!
This was a truly fantastic discussion, very inspirational and informative. These podcasts are perfect to listen to while painting! Thanks for sharing.
So glad you got back on the creative endeavour podcast, can't wait to see Cesar again! Thank you a lot ❤
Outstanding! Thank you for the most inspiring two hours I've spent in a long time!
I loooooved this interview. So much to think about and had me yelling "YES!" aloud. Thank you Andrew and Joe
These lessons are humbling for Andrew. The last one was raw umber use or burnt umber as a Virgil mentioned as a bad long term option. And now with Joe that he can tell when someone starts with the sky and works their way down. Andrew your model is exactly that! Will their be an adjustment in the next painting demonstration? We are truly on a learning journey together. Those pathways are fractals. We reach the end of one and the next is presented to us.
Thank you for all aspects of this program. Wonderful interview, and I am so elated to welcome you to the bride of Christ. That was such good news.
This interview was a real "gem" and it certainly has helped me see where I have to grow and change how I think about a lot of things. Thank you so much Andrew.
I'm so glad I listened to this, thank you Andrew! Please keep doing what you do and long live traditional art
This is probably the single most influential interview with an artist I’ve ever heard. Reams of notes, massive insight and perspective that I can consume and apply.
I enjoyed this episode so much. Thank you, it was wonderful.
Amazing video. I've been following you for about 4 years, praise God your a brother in christ, and hearing you share this is next level awesomeness, the rest of the video is icing and custard on the donut.
Psalms 9:10
Iv listened to Joes episode on Jeff Heins channel about ten times. Excited to hear nuggets of information from this episode. Thank you for doing this, it’s truly changed how I paint and think.
Also, what the take away for me was not to focus on what others want or on what you could get for a painting, but on what you love. Also, I never thought about those differences in painting from a photograph than from actually being there in the moment painting.
There is only one ‘’like’’ button and i can only press it once. How can i express how meaningful and important this interview is with that limitation? But i can say a deep ‘thank you’ to you both as a poor substitute. Only two working artists who are still studying the game can have this type of in depth conversation….!
I really appreciate your realization of idolatory, Andrew. And I'm glad you're able to self - reflect and self- criticize.
Joe Paquet has been a solid inspiration for me for a long time. I’ve done a few studies of his paintings because I absolutely love the how they draw you in and I’ve learned a lot even by that silly exercise. Listen to him talk and seeing how poetic he is about the process that goes into creating his art explains a lot about the feelings that his paintings exude. What a joy of a podcast. Thanks Andrew for getting him on.
Joe Paquet is speaking my language! This is one of the best interviews I have ever watched. Thank you for this and all you do.
En Plein Air - Watching another Artist at work. His tip was to quickly capture the light and dark areas in one tone before the light changes. Rosie Hoy
Very rich and interesting thoughts and a lot of truth there.
I think it's like what Stephen King says about his creative process. He's says his stories come to him, fully formed, from his inner muse. And he is like an archaeologist digging up the story, brushing away the dirt, to get as much of the story on paper as he can before he forgets it. So to apply that to art: Look at various images and see what stimulates your inner muse. See what speaks to you. Art shouldn't be a chore. I think it's a largely subconscious process.
Thank you two for an awesome discussion ☀️ I painted along with this video and I am grateful for the oppotunity to listen to these inspiring talks! I will be sure to paint more of what I love instead of what is easy to sell and take risks but also to inspire others to do the same ♥️🖼️
Being human and organic and real and honest is about our identity as created in the image of God! Modernity is bullshit, sorry for being so blunt-worded. May the Lord Jesus bless you, Tisch, Joe and everybody. We are brothers and sisters and we all just have one King, and He's kind and just!
Yet more amazing advice that helps one become a better artist. Thank you both. Though not finished the podcast yet, it reminds me of the CW Mundy advice along the same lines "Get out of the way of the painting!" What you both say is so true. I'm starting my painting'career'very late in my life (74) but I don't care. I'll learn anything and try to grow my inner artist. Sorry, I'm rambling.
Thanks guys for this thought provoking conversation. I can relate in many ways; confirming attitudes, and questioning my own ideas. Thanks! You both were great!
MARK-MAKING...... such an excellent interview with Joe!!... and What he says about Monet rings true for me as well.. I always felts that Monet's waterlilies became very formulaic mark-making.
I’m feeling Blessed I stumbled across your videos🙏🏻
Andrew, I've learned so much from you. I did a wonderful little painting en plein air using your insightful ideas. ❤
Man, I'm fired up from hearing you guys.
SO grateful. Thank you both. You cannot know what this has meant to me.
I love your humility, Andrew.
Love your paintings and your faith!!! And much more...
"Beating your paintings into submission..." man, that hit deep with me.
What a great episode. Such a heartfelt talk, it did sure leave a mark. I actually paused it midway, to go for a stroll with my sketchbook. That one phrase "anyone can paint the golden hour..."... man, that poked me right through. Thanks guys.
Yeah - I used to feel annoyed when the instructor takes all the morning light then says go paint at noon in the flat light! Then we have something scheduled at the evening light time.
I very much like Mr. Paquet's philosophy.
Profilicity vs Authenticity, such an interesting topic of this day and age!
Thank you for another truly insightful episode ❤
absolutely lost for words totally inspired and just wow so many "gems"
Creating Art is a uniquely human process. That is a good reason a particular music genre uses the word "Soul" to describe music. Thank you, Sam Cooke. People aren't going to stop making AI. And people will still pay someone or some company who uses it to create an image for them. But, AI does not qualify as Art, aesthetically or intellectually. Please look at this example the next time you see a picture at an art fair. In 2022, the Colorado State Fair's annual art competition gave prizes in all the usual categories: painting, quilting, and sculpture. But one entrant made his entry with an artificial intelligence program that turns lines of text into hyper-realistic graphics. He took home the blue ribbon in the fair's contest for emerging digital artists, making it one of the first A.I.-generated pieces to win such a prize.
The next time you relish celebrating the Artist's mind, the human soul, or a unique talent and ability to inspire feelings through an original piece of Art, be sure it's real and not generated by a computer. Better yet, commission a living, breathing Artist to paint something for you!
Thank you！you are my teacher ，I learned so much from you ！😘
I cannot express how much I've enjoyed this podcast .. so many nuggets and thoughts to ponder and paint on .. thanks to you both!!! Norakag