10 Signs You're An ABC (American or Australian Born Chinese)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ต.ค. 2016
- ABC means American or Australian Born Chinese. Really it's a term that fits any Chinese person born abroad in a westernized country. Being an ABC in many ways is a struggle ( we call it Displaced Asian Syndrome) because we don't perfectly fit into our adopted countries yet we're disconnected with our Chinese side as well. So we decided to list 10 things that all ABC probably can relate to.
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Ohhh, so BBC stands for "Britain Born Chinese".
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just don't look up "BBC" in google images
bIG BLACK C....
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lmao! oh come on! it's British Broadcasting Channel... silly goose.
When I try to speak Mandarin, I had incidences where people asking me "why is your chinese so bad!" Or "you are a bad Asian person." Yet my white friends say 你好 (ni hao), and they get "你的中文非常非常好！“ You Chinese is so good" I am like WTF?
haha right why don't we get props for speaking English?
You don't get props for speaking English because you are so common now.
echelon2k8 cuz asians are expected to have amazing linguistic abilities
I know what you mean. People from my country have questioned me about that. I had to explain that I spoke English at home.
For South Asians, it's called ABCD, American-Born-Confused-Desi.
LOL that's great
Adnan Ilyas it's a pain in the butt to hear that 24/7
lol
I don't consider Indians as Asians. I believe the West just got lazy and Assume that Indians and East Asians are somehow ethnically the same. We are entirely completely different. Infact Indians have far more similarity genetically speaking and culture wise with the Arabs. Do you not agree with this?
@@kaneidareyue7715anyone from Asia is an Asian. That's the definition of the word Asian
I'm American Chinese! I was born in New York,studied in Hong Kong, then back to New York and Beijing. Currently studying Sydney. To me Beijing is my hometown, since I lived there with my family for over 10 years. I realized I can't really relate with these examples too much. Maybe only when I speak to my mom in English on the bus in Beijing, people give you the funny look. I guess I'm not the typical ABC...Although when I was in Middle school I had time where I wasn't sure about my identity. But now this doesn't really bother me anymore. I learned to just enjoy that I'm a Chinese American, I speak both of the languages fluently and understand both of the cultures very well. The most important thing is to accept yourself for not because where you are from or what you look like, but because of who you actually are, and knowing what makes you you.
Vicky zeng 很高兴看到你说的。你把两个文化两个语言都认识的很好。而不是自我认识就问题。我的孩子6岁和8岁。我也担心以后他们的文化认同。
Similar one here,出生在澳大利亚，在中国长大，又回到了澳大利亚。
We are global citizens.
@@ED-pq9qr LoL, Shane Gillis doesn't agree with you! And trust me, he has a lot of supporters.
9 years ago, when i was like 10, my family immigrated to Canada; and I tried SO HARD to fit into one of you guys the "cbc" 8 years later, now my English sounds asian, and my Chinese sounds like ABC. wtf am i?
TCK - third culture kid. We all are - there's a whole community out there of people struggling with these things round the world. Sometimes it's easier to fit in with those who don't fit imho.
416 C hahaha it's even worse if you're someone like me who immigrated to Quebec, but foreigners still consider you as Canadian and expect you to speak perfect English... As someone who went to Chinese elementary school, French high school and English College, I feel that I ain't good at any of these languages. 😓
i feel u bro. btw which school u at rn.
416 C University of Montreal... I went back to the good old french educational system after doing 2 years of pre-university studies in English... and now both my English and French sucks
Canadian first. Consider your other identities bonus, not baggage.
I am ABC but the last time I visited HK I was chatting with the taxi driver in canto and he was shocked to hear that I was an ABC. He said my pronunciation was spot on. Of course my vocabulary would have failed me if we went too far beyond general chit chat topics. Props to my parents for forcing me to speak it growing up. I can easily get through a Dim Sum meal but I don't read much or write though.
yea exactly same with mandarin it's like we set ourselves up to fail the longer we talk!
David Lee just cuz ur an ABC doesn’t mean u cant speak Chinese, most probably speak it at home.
Great points got acrossed in a very funny way. Loved it!
So true! and you two are funny! Yaaaasss, do a series of these.
Fantastic video , your brilliantly awesome. Great job sharing information about cultures. Happy Friday.
Well as a Chinese Malaysian, I'm glad to call Malaysia my home. Although we're a minority but we get to preserve a lot of our culture despite many political efforts to stop us from preserving our Chinese culture 😊
Malaysians do a really good job, but the western ones just...
God i thought there's already so many Chinese generations in Malaysia
yi hsuan I'm Malaysian Chinese too!!!!
But most of Malaysian Chinese seems hardly to integrate with the Malaysian identity, unlike their neighboring Indonesian or Thai Chinese in which they've even been assimilated with their home country and mingled with the natives. Just my 2 cent as a Malaysian.
Weren’t the Indonesian Chinese actually threatened under Suharto’s regime. I heard that they were raped, tortured by the army and that they weren’t allowed to associate with anything Chinese. I don’t know, but it seems like they were forced to give up their culture. I know many Indonesian Chinese people who don’t know how to speak their mother tongue anymore.🤷♂️
Exactly! Felicia summarized my feelings when I have to meet my extended family!
Drunken shrimp is my favorite cold dish!!! Can't get enough of it! Very interesting topic, look forward to your Part 2, 3, 4…… or even your ABC Land, haha
You guys fit right in with we New Yawkas. Glad you're here!
So relatable! Canadian-Born-Chinese 🇨🇦. Always feel strange when I go back to the motherland. I love Canada! Who else is CBC?
me! Yeah, I visited China for the first time last year. It was quite an experience lol
Anyone who is not originally from the Western World can relate to this :D
No, even if you're originally from "the Western world": I think it applies for all of those that have emigrated ! I was born in France, I live in France, my parents are Portuguese: all they said in the video is true.. even for me. You don't fit anywhere, they can smell that you're not a "native" or whatever, the part with the family you didn't even know existed, etc !
This was so relatable. I came to the US at age 12, but I pretty much related to the 10 things on the list.
Love your new hairstyle Felicia
I'm third gen ABC half and half and never went to Chinese school. I think at first my dad's aunts and uncles asked if I was going to go to one since they heard it was good for kids to be bilingual. Then my parents found out there were no Cantonese schools in the area and none of my relatives speak Mandarin.
So yeah, I relate to quite a bit of this.
I am cantonese too and i will never forget how hard was it for me to learn mandarin. No one in my family speaks mandarin
I love these guys. They crack me up.
Greetings from Australia. ACB's RULE !!!. Love you guys. Thankyou for your great channel.
+Jenny Lee thanks and yes we do rule!
bahahah cheers
Jenny Lee greetings from New York City,USA ABC's RULE 1000000000000000000000000x
This is so true.. I recognise everything you mentioned. I'm not ABC but BBC (British Born Chinese). My kids are BBC too. After 60years, these sign's that you mention have been and are still real for us. I find it so amusing though. Felicia's comment that when in Asia eg HK we don't have to say anything at all! the locals know we are ABC/BBC/CBC ..we stick out like sore thumbs. But I love it. Keep up the great work guys.
#9 Felicia is correct. Here are some basic giveaways besides your westernized accent: gait, posture, gestures, facial expressions, makeup (girls) and clothing.
Samuel Mui Sadly true.
+Tina Lin I live in Asia now. This is a daily occurrence lol unfortunately.
Samuel Mui*sighs*
Samuel Mui Hi Samuel! Yes she is correct about our actions and attire do give us away culturally. I was told that by Indian (Asian) roommate told me that he knew I was not Chinese because of my behavior and actions. Our family has intermarried many times. Also you forget about the generation gap. Our relatives came to America from late 1890s to 1940s. We knew only the Hoisan dialect. We have no or little desire to go to China anymore!!!
ABC, I can confirm another giveaway: stature, muscle tone, weight, and even hair and skin and body odor. All from lifelong eating Western diet.
Good video, I enjoyed that. You guys should also do video about pros and cons of being an ABC (while in the US or in China). There were a few cons in this video already in good fun, but throw some positives too.
The running out of words thing is me. I'm actually pretty fluent but sometimes my brain can't handle it. LOL Straya!
Allen's back!!
msusanto I never left!
BBC. British Born Chinese or British Broadcasting Corporation.
Stefan Khoo I must stop you there .o.
It'd be funny if a BBC would work in the BBC
Stefan Khoo Big Black Cookies EVERYBODY LOVES COOKIES
Being Aussie Born Chinese helps in shopping as many times the locals can spot tourist a mile away and try to squeeze you for more for an item but understanding Cantonese gives you the advantage and surprise them when you talk back in their language.
I'm a BBC, British born chinese from Scotland. Strangely enough, when I am in China, I feel more Scottish and in Scotland, at times I feel very asian haha. My mum's only ever spoken to my in cantonese so I can speak it very well, just can't write much but it's funny when relatives are so surprised that I can actually speak it!
haha yea definitely few more americanized when overseas!
The little movie clips with the voice overs were really funny.
YESSS PREACH! 🙌🏻
just enjoy life and don"t worry about what people think! As long as happy, that's what matter's
I don't think I'm the only person here who took mandarin as a subject in school thinking it was going to be easy since you allready speak a little at home but then you start getting into all the technical stuff and you regret it.
Really wanna know how she did her makeup, looks so good!
That Was funny and well done. You two work very well together .. Please do more stuff "TOGETHER". I'm an older ABC, and sometimes for fun, we sit at Dim Sum with 'ABC's on one side of the table and HK born on the other side. ABC side talks english on one side and other side talks Cantonese on the other. We love to make fun of each other. When Grandma or Mom mispronounces English words, or when we (ABCs) mispronounce Chinese words. Its brutal, but funny. Here are my indicators of being ABC.
1. When in HK , I Have to ask for the English menu. If none is available, then my Wife has to order for me. It is not uncommon for cities in the New Territories HK to have only Chinese written menu. More Tourist or Business areas will have both written Chinese and English ... or better yet : Pictures !!
2. When I order drinks in HK, I'm not used to the 6 oz bottles of coke or cream soda, so I generally order 2 bottles. I get the strangest look from the waitress, as she walk away she might mutter something like he must be not born from around here. When I'm with my ABC friends, one time we ordered 8 of the 6oz bottle of Cream soda ( only 3 of us ), and she thought we were crazy, and had to ask us 2 times, if thats is what you want. Got good laughs from everyone around us, when we finally explained, that we are all accustomed to the 12 0z "American" size drink. I should next time show them a picture of the 7-11 BIG GULP !!!
3. When the best Chinese sentence you can say (from tons of practice) is: " My Cantonese speaking is very poor" or "I don't know how to speak, but I can understand" , or I speak only a little Cantonese" ... I have these complete sentences down perfect.
4. I think ABC's always order things like "Lemon Chicken" or "Broccoli Beef" from the menu because thats what they are accustomed to. Also, during Dim Sum, My go to order is "Siu Mai" or "Har Gow" or "Fun Gow" or "Charsu Bow" Thats all I ate when I was young. Then Of course by contrast, the HK born people will order "Chicken Feet" , "Tripe", and "Pig Feet". If you don't eat this, then you are most likely ABC. If you are a very very chinese ABC, then you will order "Chinese Gailan Beef" , instead of Broccoli Beef.
5. I play Ping Pong, but with a "Western" Grip. i.e. Not traditional "pen holder" grip
6. ABC Mah Jong players must play at the slower table, because we are way too slow and sometimes we require the tiles with both the written chinese and English numbers. BTW, I get the feeling there are not a lot of ABC Mah Jong players ... but its very common to "Banish" the slow players to the "slow" table.
I have more .... but these are the only ones I can think of now ...
the western grip! NOOOO but the asian grip is so much better haha JK JK thanks for sharing richard!
If there was really an ABC Land, it could have restaurants with the limited Chinese fare that's recognizable, and the names of the dishes would be "That Spicy Pork Pepper Dish" and "Those Noodles With The Brown Sauce"... Attractions would include an It's-A-Small-World-style ride where people shout "Ni hao" at you, and "Why don't you have a Chinese name?" and "Your English is really good..." and during Halloween season, instead of zombies and monsters jumping out at you, they would be women dressed as moms trying to hand you a phone to talk to your relatives.
LOL and a bar for all those who are Single and Ready to Mingle! Hi there I am an ABC, I can speak Cantonese well enough but can't write or read. So I can't work or live in China even if I wanted to :(
As a brit ,I find this channel so interesting.I would love to learn Mandarin .but ,for me , I feel it's like trying to break through a wall ,you have no idea where to start and the language is so different to english.Also in China there are so many languages so mandarin will only get you so far.
The cultural differences are also interesting.My Japanese mate knows fluent Japanese and can make sick sushi from a young age ,while I still struggle with beans on toast.
Thank you! I knew I ate snake in the basket(very delicious) at 杭州西湖景区中餐厅, when I stayed at the 'Shangri-la Hangzhou Hotel'! Loved the way they pronounced it 'Shanga-Lila'(so beautiful)!
This also true for kids that are adopted.
I just noticed, rather off topic, that the abacus portrayed in Mulan is Japanese not Chinese. Of course that isn't surprising...
I relate to most of these signs. I'm not a true ABC because I was actually born in China (adopted) but I do feel like I am and was raised as an American born Chinese.
I relate to this video so much.... it’s basically my life.
No CBC eh? Some pun intended. CBC as in Chinese born and in the Canadian Broadcasting Channel :D woop woop! I may only be a smidge asian but... i'm subbing! perspective is everything in this day in age.
This video was quite interesting to watch.
Edit : Now I want to go learn my mother's side of the family's language's, I've got Irish, Scottish or Welsh to choose from.
you are always welcome in Florida!:) everybody here is from somewhere else. except me. and my parents were Chicagoans, so true natives don't accept me, either. (sigh)
Aww thanks! New York is pretty diverse too, I feel like I hear so many different languages when i'm walking around
I have lived in Canada for 30 years, and 10 years ago, when my wife and I spent our honeymoon in Hong Kong, we walked in a shop and within 5 seconds we were made as expats....
Ain't nothing wrong watching TVB or Hong Kong movies with English subs. It's good stuff and we learn the cool phrases. also, ABC - MC JIN.
When you said you wanted to create your own community, i guess South East Asia is the place for you. We're just like in the middle of everything and got a big community here.
Lol. I kept seeing ABC being mention in an interview at first I thought it was an insult but you guys clarified it. In a way I can also be in ABC standing for American-Born Citizen.. Lol
Im from HK and Im no ABC but I got some friends who are ABC/CBC/IBC(Irish Born Chinese). Every now and then when they come bak HK for vacation and we hang out, I told them not to speak a single word of English and they somehow manage to speak decent Canto though they all r literate in Chinese(Yes it does take a few mins to brush up tho). Funny thing is that they never realize OR admit they could actually speak decent Cantonese. Literally they all r typical foreign born chinese like majority of the viewers here, picking up the language from their parents when they were a baby boy, never speak a word of chinese except for chatting with their parents, perhaps trying to learn more chinese thru chinese school on Sat/Sun but later on they figured that it won't work since all the chinese kids are speaking English to one another. Luckily enough, since they all showed different degree of interest in learning the language and culture, they decided to learn the language by watching a lot of TVB dramas, memorizing the pronunciation n vocabulary and then practised it by talking to their parents on regular basis. When they look back now on the whole journey of learning chinese, they all agree that it's not too hard than they first thought it would be cuz they all feel like, at the end of the day, Canto is technically their first language. They now are all delighted that they can at least speak the language so that the language barrier would not prevent them from trying to carve out a career here in HK. Not sure if that's the same case for someone here as well but if it is, congratz!
you bring up a good point although learning a language can be daunting, essentially most abcs are "relearning" their native tongues. Whenever I work on projects with chinese speaking people our am traveling abroad I usually pick up the language pretty quickly.
omg so relatable! You just described my life, although I'm not from HK (part of my family is), I'm from ShangHai and WenZhou, and I was born in Spain.
Congrats for what?
I'm neither one. I immigrated to the US when I was a freshman in high school. I didn't fit into any social groups at all, literally. Base on my life experience with the US military with several years in retail & several different college activities, the way how I stand & talk set me apart from ABCs and Chinese/Taiwanese immigrants. What set me apart from everyone else, when I visited my relatives in Taiwan years ago, was the way how I talked & carried myself.
I have been called that many times over. In a Chinese restaurant, I tend to order what is termed the "bastardised" Chinese food. My late father would complain that I would often pick sweet and sour pork, honey chicken, Mongolian lamb or beef, etc.
Things are changing. In Canada, all my Chinese friends are sending their kids to Chinese school in the weekend and keep speaking Chinese at home. most of parents borned after 1980, when China started its growing. so those parents know how important it is to a CBC to speak Chinese in the future.
I'm a Vietnamese born. I live in the US most of my life. I am living in Australia now. When I go back to Vietnam, I felt so out of place. Even though I looked Vietnamese, I often get treated differently, even from my own families. Yes, I do suffered from D.A.S.
You are so adorable Felicia! Love your charisma. There are no cool ABCs (or Asians) like you out here in the bush.
lol the Ben part is so funny
but its so true whenever I go to taiwan with him he always orders so embarassing
It bothers me when they add tons of “like” when they talk.
As an ARC (American-Raised Chinese), I grew up with Mandarin-speaking parents in a primarily English-speaking environment. I only spoke Chinese up to the age of four or five, but then, when I came to America at the age of 4, I started speaking English but only in school. At 9-11 years of age, I went to Chinese school in the US, where I learned pinyin and basic Chinese characters. Then, I decided consciously to stop speaking Chinese, because, being an introverted kid, there was no way I could improve my English skills if I just hung out with my Chinese-speaking parents all the time. Since then, I would speak in English to my parents, while they were speak in Chinese to me; and I just pretended that they were the same language. Out of university, I wanted to brush up on my foreign language skills, which was actually Spanish. But then, I became intensely drawn to Chinese language and culture. Also, the Chinese language, IMHO, is far more easier to learn than Spanish, despite taking years of Spanish in school. I am also exposed to Chinese more frequently than Spanish, which really helps in language learning. Also, I recently found my cousins' old schoolbooks. I don't know how they got in my house, but I think they just sent it to me when I was little. I find it very helpful, because it is written for Chinese elementary school students, not English speakers, so it's basically connecting my spoken language to written language.
To add to the mix there is SABC for South African Born Chinese. MIT for Made in Taiwan and MIC for Made in China.
Also, yeah, you can often (not always) tell either where someone is from or at least if they are from "here" whereever "here" is. I'm white Irish/British and live in Scotland. I can often spot american tourists, or polish people, or people from certain other European countries etc, or at least when people aren't from around here. People I know can tell the difference in accent between people who live in my area and people who live a 15min drive away (next town, that's pretty much stuck to this city). I can sometimes tell by looking what city someone is from (if they fit a certain stereotype). It must be so hard to feel like people can see that you aren't like the other people in a place you are "from", but it's not surprising. When I'm feeling displaced (long story) I try to remember there are advantages as well as disadvantages to being TCK/having lived in different places/not really having one place you are "from".
Yep, I relate to some because I am a American-born Malaysian with those struggles.
Educational
Felicia looks so gorgeous.
To me, it is more of a technical term, rather than one to feel offended about, because if a person was technically born in Australia, but of a Chinese heritage, let alone actually of a Chinese culture, that is, to be Chinese-orientated, it is simply an accurate technical descriptor.
For me, I am an 'Australian-Born Chinese' but I am Chinese-speaking, and Chinese-orientated by culture. There are some of us who are less westernised, or non-westernised, and hence, are more Chinese-orientated.
Many of the 'Australian-Born Chinese' however, I feel, are very westernised and have departed from Chinese culture altogether. All they have is a Chinese face. Some of them are even embarrassed about their Chinese names! Many from the generation of Australian-Born Chinese who parents were themselves ABCs have no Chinese names. They have totally departed from Chinese culture, that I feel that they are westernisers.
Family members get surprised when i am able to speak my mother tongue😂even tho i cant even speak it well.
It's a pity that many ABCs can't speak Chinese well, lose their root and miss the chance to become a great translator in their lives.
i hate my parent but the only thing im glad and thankful for is them talking in chinese to me.xddd
張凌宇 I wanna know why u hate them? may I konw?
+孙汶 they hit me when i don't listen. i mean even if i didn't listen they still shouln't hit me. especially if i was only 6 or 7 years old.
張凌宇 feel sorry for u.. only u can do is when you grow up and become more mature u surely will forgive them... and never hit your won kids
@孙汶 i already forgive them or else i won't be here writing comments, i'll be in jail if i never forgive them. (jk) XDDD and yes, i will never hit my kids bc that just wrong.^^
What about BBC (British Born Chinese)? I feel left out.
Privileged White Male k
I'm not NZ born Chinese and can speak Cantonese and Mandarin but always feel displaced because people always ask you where you come from in NZ and in HK too! crazy
Fact 10: I am in my twenties and every time I visit my grandparents back in China I still get to know someone new that is a close relative lol
I'm not even an ABC but I can completely relate with this 😅😅
Filipino-Chinese Filipino-born American here, one of the few on here I guess... most Filipino Chinese don´t even speak any Chinese languages at all, they just speak their regional Filipino language and study a Chinese language in school but don't use it so they lose it. Currently picking up Mandarin again for the sake of my heritage.
I'm a IBC, Italian Born Chinese and usually we just feel the same
This is actually so accurate it’s scary
And if u ever go to an actual Asian market in Asia, unless ur obviously not from there, speaking English is a fantastic way 2 get totally ripped off
have you ever realised that canto people have the same reaction when they find something that's surprising? it's kinda like "WAAAAAAAH"
I played piano and did lots of homework-I got worksheets from my mom because I had nothing to do after school- I also spent an hr playing video games and watching tv
Oh, Felicia. Cantonese only has six tones. The three other 'tones' don't have their own tone level, they're just stop consonants.
I'm not judging! (Just resisting rolling my eyes really hard. :op)
She's right, in an ancestral home and you're not from there, they automatically know without a word you're not from there. Direct African ancestry in my case.
Felicia so pretty! love her!
do you feel happy what you are now? if you have a second time, what will you choose to be? ABC or?
I like you two as a team. (:
aw thanks wait till Mia gets back from sanfran it'll be even more awesome!
A Tree Writes yes. You two look awesome together
I am wondering how my children will feel? They are American Born Chinese so all of their friends are also ABC. Does fitting in important? I met all sort of friends from different countries and I love it. That was very unique here in San Francisco.
I'm Chinese and do not judge our lives by ur own point of view. U can have fun from start to finish and go RIP in the end or work really hard to pursue wat u want. u live ur lives and we live ours.
I can relate. I am Australian born, but my parents are Chinese, and conversations with my extended family result in family members being so disappointed in me. It's not my fault that I can understand what they're saying, but do not know how to reply in Mandarin :(
what about the term "Australasian" for Australians of Asian background?
How long is Mia on vacation for? haha We need some updates of her travels :P
For some reason, I started to ship you two (F&A) after the first 30 seconds of this video.
Don't ask me why, it just happened with this video haha
Oh just realized Mia's back haha
She's kinda back, she's actually going to stay in SF for a few more weeks
For me it was only fact 9 xD
In Germany I'm the Asian or the "dark one", in the Philippines I'm the German or the "white one" haha
Every time someone they ask am I chinese or asian
hey off the great wall i think you guys should check the Philippines it is a asome contry they got alot of mangos
banana like I was just there a month ago and I'm going back there in like two weeks!
+Off the Great Wall oh okay
Well, I'm an IBNZ (Indian-born-New-Zealander), and a lot of these do apply to me. Do I suffer from DAS? I have no idea.
For me it's a really rare condition,I was born in China,but half White African,And I speak fluent Mandarin ,I came to Australia when I was 8, so my English is okay(not good at all),and I would like to say thank u to my parents because they were very strict with me of my Mandarin studying. I have a lot of friends who came to Australia like 5-8years old and can speak nearly no Chinese now. Btw my mom is a white African who was born in China,that means she speaks 100%fluent Mandarin.
would you be still considered abc if born in china moved overseas at 1 and have little to no knowledge of chinese culture?
Felicia is so beautiful and she has a bit of her Australian accent still
Can there be CBC (Canada born Chinese)
omg so relatable
guess I'm a SBC (Spanish Born Chinese)? hahah
I'm an ABC and i work in a restaurant with Chinese people who primarily speak Cantonese and/or Mandarin. How did I end up in there lol (displaced Asian).
I'm an ABC but none of them apply to me LOL. It's good that you may be like an American but never lose sight of where you're from! Accept the two cultures😉
what if you are MBC mexican born chinese, Mexico central and south america are west.
Malaysian born Chinese, where you guys at...
Jc Clio hey yo
But Malaysia is an Asian country, this video refers more to those who were born or grew up in a Western country from a very young age.
there are a lot of differente in asian countries.
ABC, MBC, etc... Sounds about as silly as a CBC (Chinese born Chinese) to me. Should just say you're Malaysian and properly integrate without the need to reference ancestry.
Jc Clio here
everything you said fits my situation too, as a turkish girl who grew up in germany. I would join your abc land :'D
*But what does Chinese even mean? There are 56 ethnic groups within that. Most of the Chinese from South East Asia would speak Hokkien or Hakka. There's Cantonese in the south and Mandarin in the north.*
Shanghai Noon good point even in a city like New York there are multiple chinatowns each with their own distinctive flavor because the people who live there are from different parts of China
Shout out to Queens, NY! And to all the hokkien speaking Taiwanese, and FUzhounese.
Ikr. Just like the Indian subcontinent.
Just like European Union...
Good question. I think it depends on how the term is used. To me, it is about culture, language and thinking. Where a person has lost the culture, he is not Chinese, except by ethnicity, even if he can speak the language. Where has person is very Chinese in his thinking and value, he is Chinese, whether he is from South East Asia, Taiwan, Hong Kong, America, Australia, or anywhere else in the world.
A good example would be the Malaysian Chinese. They tend to be more traditional, especially the older ones, and very Chinese-orientated by culture. They can speak Mandarin as well as their dialect.
My understanding in that ethnic minorities in China have their own culture, language and society. So, even if they are Chinese nationals, they would not be Chinese by culture if they have their own culture and society. That is just my take on it.
I am Latino place's born but does I still count as ABC ?