Kill the tech gap by skill...damn that was an awesome point!! 🔥👍 Awesome comparison. Regarding the autofocus I think it is because the A7III was released in 2018 and had eye AF only for still, not video. In video it has only face detection. The renewed A6xxx line (6100, 6400, 6600) was released in 2019 and got the updated AF technology including eye AF in video. I think back then there was a general complaint among Sony folks that the AF tech was always better in the APS-C line compared with full frame. That discussion is history since Sony released the A1, A7Siii and A7IV 😀 It's also amazing that Sony puts in the latest AF tech into their smaller cameras. For example if you do a AF comparison between the A7III and the ZV1 - the ZV1 would also beat the A7III like the A6600 😇😇😇
I use both cameras... I enjoy both of them but, I will most often use the A7iii in more static situations such as studio and portrait work and I use the A6600 (because of its small form factor) for travel and in situations in which I need greater mobility.. My favorite three lenses for the full frame Sony are: 28-75mm f/2.8 Tamron, 85mm f/1.8 Sony and the 70-200mm f/4 Sony. I chose the f/4 over the f/2.8 version because of the lighter weight and lower price. My favorite lenses for the A6600 are: Sigma 18-50mm f/2.8 (because of its form factor) and the Sony 70-350mm f/4.5-6.3. I also use the 85mm Sony on my A6600 and love this lens for both cameras.
Yes you can. But if you use a full frame lense with an apsc camera you have to consider the crop factor. Simply multiply the focal length and fpoint with 1.6, so a FE 50MM f1. 8 lense acts as a 80mm f2.8 lense in your apsc camera.
Bokeh is very complicated. It's actually not dependent on sensor size, its dependent on the lens.. if you use the 28-75mm to test bokeh on both cameras, it will show very similar results since you're using the same lens with the same opening. but if you test a 35mm 1.8 on a full frame camera, and a 24mm 1.8 (the focal length equivalent you'd buy as a apsc user), then you'll see not a difference in focal length (because the 24mm is a 35mm full frame equivalent cropped 1.5x), but a difference in the bokeh, even if they're both 1.8. this is because to get a 35mm view on APSC, you have to buy a wider lens, and even if the focal length is cropped to a 35mm equivalent, a 24mm is a wider lens which makes the bokeh smaller, even if the focal length looks the same as a 35mm on a full frame camera. so then comparing a 24mm 2.8 on an apsc, to a 24mm 1.8 on a full frame, and cropping that full frame to 1.5x, then again you will see similar bokeh, because the focal length and aperture are similar. get me? so yes, apsc bokeh is much smaller when comparing lenses designed for apsc because the focal length equivalents are 1.5 wider (roughly) to compensate for the crop, meaning a wider lens makes for less bokeh.
I had a fujifilm xt4 and upgraded to the Sony A7 IV. While I really liked fuji colours, the lowlight performance sucked. The A7 iv is amazing with high iso. If you have the money, definitely go for full frame.
For what you need high iso performance? No serious photographer would shoot above 400 is and a apsc camera is breaking down at arround 6400, so apsc is more than capable enough.
Great video man! I really appreciate all the side-by-side comparisons.... too many videos out there where the youtubers just "talk." Great point about kill the tech gap with skill - I agree! Definitely earned a like & sub!
All good points, but personally I would still get the full frame lenses for A6600. APS-C body with full frame lens is actually the perfect combo, unlike a full frame camera using the entire lens, the APS-C because of the smaller sensor uses only the center part of the lens (the best part of the lens) while cropping out the soft corners.
Is there any difference in image quality between FE and E equivalent lenses? Read about FE not bundling the same amount of light on APSC as E lenses and thus having worse image quality..
I pretty much made up my mind on what to get. For my goal, smaller is definitely better. I specifically was looking at the weight and size of both cameras beforehand. Then I watched your video and it confirmed my decision. It’s also nice to know that there’s almost no difference on the quality of the images and videos. I will be mainly using this for travels so I’m looking for something light and compact. Thank you for making great comparison. Nice intro by the way haha 😋
afaik, a6600 (and a6400, and a6100 maybe too?) has a newer processor that allows for that live trackin af in video. a7iii has an older processor, incapable of that, and didnt (and will not) get an af update because its not capable of it. afaik, its the processor inside.
APS-C is good for beginners. It was and still is my first mirrorless camera (a6400), for 2 years I learned much about cameras settings, manual lenses, vintage lenses and I think after more 2 years I will switch to full frame camera, maybe it will be Sony A7V. Full frame, because video looks closer more better for me, like you can see on TV, video have more professional, detailed look. About photos....you can shoot great photos even in vintage film cameras, but video is different, here you need better gear.
The summary was just perfect and so true... Gear really doesn't matter that much... But for me the problem begins, when I'm about to buy a new camera (changing from Canon to Sony). Do you think that it is better to buy Sony A7III for around 1400 USD and grab some FF lenses or buy newer Sony A6700 for around 2000 USD and use canon APS-C lenses with adapter?
How about putting a camera on a desk in a small room and making a video that doesn’t have that fisheye look? Skill doesn’t matter in that case right? Might be a good idea for a video - I can’t find any videos on it.
Question! With prices coming down, the price gap in the used side of things between the a7iii and a6600 has gone down..given the difference of about $100 bucks or so, would you the recommend the a7iii? I mostly take shots of moving cars, so wondering what might be best if they're both close to equal
Been using my brothers camera for a while and I feel like it’s time to get my own 😅 I’m thinking of getting the 6600! Any suggestions on a good lenses that are good in low light? Want to minimize the noise on pictures when I shoot in the dark 😭 Thank you!
Great video. They seem so close. I am predominantly going to be using mine for car photography and videos and some low light situations. I just dont want to make the wrong decision
I think the lack of fine details of the A6600 in situations, compared to the A7 III is more due to the fact that the crappy kit lens you used for testing is unable to serve the tightly pixel-packed APS-C sensor. Also, when you use faster glas the noise performance improves drastically, of course. Also, APS-C lenses tend to be lighter and more affordable so I'd rather compare F1.4 APS-C to F2 on FF or so..
Good point. I compared the a6600 and a7iii (I own both), and noted that the Sigma Trio lenses have a very good light transmission... better than any of my FF glass, so at the same F stop, the apsc utilizes a lower ISO value.
@@Greenepyon Interesting, thanks for sharing! Makes the difference even smaller. Maybe it'd be better going straight for the lighter F1.8 FF lenses.. 😁
The lack of fine details does not boil down to how good the lens is. You can't simply ignore the sensor limitations, especially ISO performance. Even if you use a 1.4 lens on apsc and compare it with FF 2.8, the number stops ahead of the 1.4 is not significant enough to make a difference for the apsc. Just look at this comparison to see how limiting the apsc sensor really is: th-cam.com/video/yag1NZOsIzE/w-d-xo.html
@@JinKazama92 Apart from the fact that what you claim is physically nonsense, it does not stand up to reality, because I have owned both cameras (A6600 & A7 III) and can say that the images are indistinguishable at ISO 100 under optimal conditions in each case. And of course, it's normally expected that a lens at f2.8 will perform better than one at F1.4. As for your linked video comparison, the Sony FE 1.8/20 mm lens can't handle the resolution of the smaller sensor as well as that of an FF sensor. And that's because 24 MP on APS-C is equivalent to a FF pixel density of 54 MP and that's why APS-C makes higher demands on the sensor than a 24 MP FF sensor. In addition, the optimal aperture of APS-C is lower than that of FF because, among other things, you have to take diffraction effects into account.
Hi. I am no pro but I am thinking of upgrading my a6000 to either a6600 as I want to be able to reuse my lenses. Or do I upgrade to a7Iii with new lenses. I normally use for travel/holiday shots and indoor. What would you recommend
I’m considering the same. But from my understanding; the 6600 should be more than enough camera for the usage you describe. Being able to use your other lenses is a huge deal too!
Thanks so much for. Your replied. I have order the a6600. BUT I am thinking, have I made the right decision. The lenses I have is since 2015 16-70mm f4 is my best one. There is a special promotion for the a7iii in Australia. I can get body and Sony 24-105mm f4 for $2950. The a6600 body is costing me 1950. The a7iii after rebate is $1800. What do you think. I want the camera for long term.
Hello, 1st i wanna say i like your charisma and your style of talking and making videos ! Keep the good work up brother !! 2nd,i own Sony a6000 for about a year,and i think next year to change my gear,any recommendation for nature and animals photography? (only SONY :D ) i love Sony a7 III but i feel like i will have it and i dont know to use it at full potential maybe? idk :)
Nice content! Looking to buy either A7iv with Sigma 24-70 or ZVE10 with Sony 11 1.8 Sigma 16 and 56 1.4. Not sure which route to go. Price and weight scares me off a7iv. Rolling shutter scares me off the zve10 :) any suggestions? I mostly do video. But I do want photo capability too, so I'm getting the Godox AD200 with either one.
6600 or 6400? I really want a good hybrid camera. For stills and video. But can’t afford the a74 right now Or really the a73 either. But would you recommend the 6600 over 6400?
@@KenseiAkatsu can I ask why? All my research has led me to the 6400. Haha. So what are the main reasons you would pick the 6600 for a hybrid camera that does good photos and video ?
Thanks for video, so i have a question, i m a beginner and looking for the camera but cant really decide now, i am looking at brand new a6400 with kit lens 18-135mm which is around 1200€ and there is a used a7III which costs 1600€ with kit lens 28-70mm i cant really decide on which should i go, i am beginner and all help will be welcomed Edit since a6400 doesnt ahve any stabilisation i was thinking to buy Ronin SC Combo for 300€. Would that be better combo, new a6400 + kit lens + Gimbal or used A7III + kit lens?
@@KenseiAkatsu bad rolling shutter no IBIS and no 10bit files unlike full frame A7x series but if you know how to workaround the APSC limitations it can still give you satisfactory results. Side flippy screen is a win, definitely.
im looking to get back into photography and need to relearn all of the settings like the back of my hand before I get back into professional work. Do you guys think it would be best to relearn on a cheaper new APSC instead of buying an old full frame then invest in the new full frame I want later ?
i like the word "i can kill the gap by my skills" it impresses me !!!
Kill the tech gap by skill...damn that was an awesome point!! 🔥👍
Awesome comparison.
Regarding the autofocus I think it is because the A7III was released in 2018 and had eye AF only for still, not video. In video it has only face detection. The renewed A6xxx line (6100, 6400, 6600) was released in 2019 and got the updated AF technology including eye AF in video.
I think back then there was a general complaint among Sony folks that the AF tech was always better in the APS-C line compared with full frame.
That discussion is history since Sony released the A1, A7Siii and A7IV 😀
It's also amazing that Sony puts in the latest AF tech into their smaller cameras. For example if you do a AF comparison between the A7III and the ZV1 - the ZV1 would also beat the A7III like the A6600 😇😇😇
Thanks!
And thank you for the info!
I agree! I just feel good about that Sony still doesn't forget about APS-C cameras!
I use both cameras... I enjoy both of them but, I will most often use the A7iii in more static situations such as studio and portrait work and I use the A6600 (because of its small form factor) for travel and in situations in which I need greater mobility..
My favorite three lenses for the full frame Sony are:
28-75mm f/2.8 Tamron, 85mm f/1.8 Sony and the 70-200mm f/4 Sony. I chose the f/4 over the f/2.8 version because of the lighter weight and lower price.
My favorite lenses for the A6600 are: Sigma 18-50mm f/2.8 (because of its form factor) and the Sony 70-350mm f/4.5-6.3. I also use the 85mm Sony on my A6600 and love this lens for both cameras.
Thank you for sharing it!!!
Hey
im a bit confused here
these two cameras have the same mount, no? So you could use the same lenses.
Yes you can. But if you use a full frame lense with an apsc camera you have to consider the crop factor. Simply multiply the focal length and fpoint with 1.6, so a FE 50MM f1. 8 lense acts as a 80mm f2.8 lense in your apsc camera.
Bokeh is very complicated. It's actually not dependent on sensor size, its dependent on the lens.. if you use the 28-75mm to test bokeh on both cameras, it will show very similar results since you're using the same lens with the same opening. but if you test a 35mm 1.8 on a full frame camera, and a 24mm 1.8 (the focal length equivalent you'd buy as a apsc user), then you'll see not a difference in focal length (because the 24mm is a 35mm full frame equivalent cropped 1.5x), but a difference in the bokeh, even if they're both 1.8. this is because to get a 35mm view on APSC, you have to buy a wider lens, and even if the focal length is cropped to a 35mm equivalent, a 24mm is a wider lens which makes the bokeh smaller, even if the focal length looks the same as a 35mm on a full frame camera. so then comparing a 24mm 2.8 on an apsc, to a 24mm 1.8 on a full frame, and cropping that full frame to 1.5x, then again you will see similar bokeh, because the focal length and aperture are similar. get me? so yes, apsc bokeh is much smaller when comparing lenses designed for apsc because the focal length equivalents are 1.5 wider (roughly) to compensate for the crop, meaning a wider lens makes for less bokeh.
I had a fujifilm xt4 and upgraded to the Sony A7 IV. While I really liked fuji colours, the lowlight performance sucked. The A7 iv is amazing with high iso. If you have the money, definitely go for full frame.
Yeah, definitely the low light performance is the huge reason to have a full frame.
For what you need high iso performance? No serious photographer would shoot above 400 is and a apsc camera is breaking down at arround 6400, so apsc is more than capable enough.
unlimited possibilities
Great video man! I really appreciate all the side-by-side comparisons.... too many videos out there where the youtubers just "talk." Great point about kill the tech gap with skill - I agree!
Definitely earned a like & sub!
All good points, but personally I would still get the full frame lenses for A6600. APS-C body with full frame lens is actually the perfect combo, unlike a full frame camera using the entire lens, the APS-C because of the smaller sensor uses only the center part of the lens (the best part of the lens) while cropping out the soft corners.
Is there any difference in image quality between FE and E equivalent lenses? Read about FE not bundling the same amount of light on APSC as E lenses and thus having worse image quality..
I pretty much made up my mind on what to get. For my goal, smaller is definitely better. I specifically was looking at the weight and size of both cameras beforehand. Then I watched your video and it confirmed my decision. It’s also nice to know that there’s almost no difference on the quality of the images and videos.
I will be mainly using this for travels so I’m looking for something light and compact. Thank you for making great comparison. Nice intro by the way haha 😋
The a6600 has a more updated auto focus system than the A7III. That’s why it performed better in the auto focus test.
Oh that's why!
Thanks!!!
It actually has the focusing system of the a7r iv if I remember correctly.
afaik, a6600 (and a6400, and a6100 maybe too?) has a newer processor that allows for that live trackin af in video. a7iii has an older processor, incapable of that, and didnt (and will not) get an af update because its not capable of it. afaik, its the processor inside.
Thanks for your comment... Quite unique & different from other guys. Very appreciated... and clear tutorial.
Thank you!
Glad you liked it!
Solid video, I will be keeping my a6400. I don't see enough of a difference to upgrade to full frame.
Good decision!
You summed it up perfectly in the end. Great video!
Thank you!
APS-C is good for beginners. It was and still is my first mirrorless camera (a6400), for 2 years I learned much about cameras settings, manual lenses, vintage lenses and I think after more 2 years I will switch to full frame camera, maybe it will be Sony A7V. Full frame, because video looks closer more better for me, like you can see on TV, video have more professional, detailed look. About photos....you can shoot great photos even in vintage film cameras, but video is different, here you need better gear.
That's a good point.
When it comes to videos, the spec gets more important than photography.
Thanks for the video man. Good information! 👍🏻 God bless you bro! 😊🔥
Thank you Kensei for the helpful comparative video!
The summary was just perfect and so true... Gear really doesn't matter that much... But for me the problem begins, when I'm about to buy a new camera (changing from Canon to Sony). Do you think that it is better to buy Sony A7III for around 1400 USD and grab some FF lenses or buy newer Sony A6700 for around 2000 USD and use canon APS-C lenses with adapter?
Although a6700 is APSC it has Sony's latest technology.
So if I were you, I would go for a6700
How about putting a camera on a desk in a small room and making a video that doesn’t have that fisheye look? Skill doesn’t matter in that case right? Might be a good idea for a video - I can’t find any videos on it.
Question! With prices coming down, the price gap in the used side of things between the a7iii and a6600 has gone down..given the difference of about $100 bucks or so, would you the recommend the a7iii? I mostly take shots of moving cars, so wondering what might be best if they're both close to equal
Yes, that sounds like a better choice!
i am intoxicated with the full frame bokeh 🙂 cant believe i just chose a7s (2014) over the a6400 (2019) worst mistake ive ever made
Been using my brothers camera for a while and I feel like it’s time to get my own 😅 I’m thinking of getting the 6600! Any suggestions on a good lenses that are good in low light? Want to minimize the noise on pictures when I shoot in the dark 😭 Thank you!
Very informative video . Thank you ❤
Great video. They seem so close. I am predominantly going to be using mine for car photography and videos and some low light situations. I just dont want to make the wrong decision
Very good video ✋ clear & simple 😊😃
I think the lack of fine details of the A6600 in situations, compared to the A7 III is more due to the fact that the crappy kit lens you used for testing is unable to serve the tightly pixel-packed APS-C sensor. Also, when you use faster glas the noise performance improves drastically, of course. Also, APS-C lenses tend to be lighter and more affordable so I'd rather compare F1.4 APS-C to F2 on FF or so..
Thanks for info!!!
Good point. I compared the a6600 and a7iii (I own both), and noted that the Sigma Trio lenses have a very good light transmission... better than any of my FF glass, so at the same F stop, the apsc utilizes a lower ISO value.
@@Greenepyon Interesting, thanks for sharing! Makes the difference even smaller. Maybe it'd be better going straight for the lighter F1.8 FF lenses.. 😁
The lack of fine details does not boil down to how good the lens is. You can't simply ignore the sensor limitations, especially ISO performance. Even if you use a 1.4 lens on apsc and compare it with FF 2.8, the number stops ahead of the 1.4 is not significant enough to make a difference for the apsc.
Just look at this comparison to see how limiting the apsc sensor really is:
th-cam.com/video/yag1NZOsIzE/w-d-xo.html
@@JinKazama92 Apart from the fact that what you claim is physically nonsense, it does not stand up to reality, because I have owned both cameras (A6600 & A7 III) and can say that the images are indistinguishable at ISO 100 under optimal conditions in each case. And of course, it's normally expected that a lens at f2.8 will perform better than one at F1.4. As for your linked video comparison, the Sony FE 1.8/20 mm lens can't handle the resolution of the smaller sensor as well as that of an FF sensor. And that's because 24 MP on APS-C is equivalent to a FF pixel density of 54 MP and that's why APS-C makes higher demands on the sensor than a 24 MP FF sensor. In addition, the optimal aperture of APS-C is lower than that of FF because, among other things, you have to take diffraction effects into account.
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Hi. I am no pro but I am thinking of upgrading my a6000 to either a6600 as I want to be able to reuse my lenses. Or do I upgrade to a7Iii with new lenses. I normally use for travel/holiday shots and indoor. What would you recommend
I’m considering the same. But from my understanding; the 6600 should be more than enough camera for the usage you describe. Being able to use your other lenses is a huge deal too!
Totally agree!!
Thanks so much for. Your replied. I have order the a6600. BUT I am thinking, have I made the right decision. The lenses I have is since 2015 16-70mm f4 is my best one. There is a special promotion for the a7iii in Australia. I can get body and Sony 24-105mm f4 for $2950. The a6600 body is costing me 1950. The a7iii after rebate is $1800. What do you think. I want the camera for long term.
@@quynhgiang5780 just get a6400
Hey, Kensei! Between the A7iii or the FX30 wich would you recomend the most?
FX30
the ending very inspired me. i have a6400.
Thank you!!!
Hello, 1st i wanna say i like your charisma and your style of talking and making videos ! Keep the good work up brother !! 2nd,i own Sony a6000 for about a year,and i think next year to change my gear,any recommendation for nature and animals photography? (only SONY :D ) i love Sony a7 III but i feel like i will have it and i dont know to use it at full potential maybe? idk :)
Thank you!!
A7III is the best option if you switch from a6600 series!!
A7III is still in the game in 2022!!
On the a6600 with APSC sensor a 150-500mm lens will become a 225-750mm, but AF tracking might become a little harder.
Loved the wisdom thought. I too believe in same.
Nice content! Looking to buy either A7iv with Sigma 24-70 or ZVE10 with Sony 11 1.8 Sigma 16 and 56 1.4. Not sure which route to go. Price and weight scares me off a7iv. Rolling shutter scares me off the zve10 :) any suggestions? I mostly do video. But I do want photo capability too, so I'm getting the Godox AD200 with either one.
I think that depends on how far you wanna go with those gears.
If you potentially wanna make it a career, Sony A7IV would be good in a long term!
@@KenseiAkatsu thank you. What about rolling shutter on ZVE10 vs A7iv? Is it MUCH better or just a little bit?
your review is nice...
Precise and informative.
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Awesome, thank you!
Very good video but a6600 little bit overprice. spend little more money to buy a7c i think that is good choice instead of a6600.
That's interesting.
I might make a video about it!
Like A7iii vs A7C
@@KenseiAkatsu yes ,we want that video.
i like your content bro
Glad you enjoy it!
6600 or 6400? I really want a good hybrid camera. For stills and video. But can’t afford the a74 right now Or really the a73 either. But would you recommend the 6600 over 6400?
6600!!
@@KenseiAkatsu can I ask why? All my research has led me to the 6400. Haha. So what are the main reasons you would pick the 6600 for a hybrid camera that does good photos and video ?
@@andrewchristian3017 IBIS
Don't smoke. That's dumb
They are almost the same price unless a6600 is 10bit its a waste of money for it is not superior in any topic
Well, I think it's still a good camera to have in 2022
Sony a6600 🥰 I love a6600
Great budget camera!!
Whats the image quality like? I have the a6000 use it most for insect photography and wildlife looking to update
A6600 sales are on hold in the states right now. Strange, considering Sony released three new APS-C lenses this week.
Global chip shortage. The A6400 is back in production already.
Good to know! Thank you!
Amazing video man. Really interested in beginning my photography journey and this helped a lot! Thank brother.
Bokeh difference is huge, if you dont put background miles away and will use fast lenses.
Thanks
Thanks for video, so i have a question, i m a beginner and looking for the camera but cant really decide now, i am looking at brand new a6400 with kit lens 18-135mm which is around 1200€ and there is a used a7III which costs 1600€ with kit lens 28-70mm i cant really decide on which should i go, i am beginner and all help will be welcomed
Edit since a6400 doesnt ahve any stabilisation i was thinking to buy Ronin SC Combo for 300€. Would that be better combo, new a6400 + kit lens + Gimbal or used A7III + kit lens?
Used A7III + Kitlens!
👀👀 does it matter tho?
Thanks for this fantastic compare and basic knowledge.
Thank you for watching!!
you're so funny haha. I like watching your videos
Thank you!!
8 seconds in and I subscribed. I really enjoy your editing style
Thank you so much!!
I can toss my ZVE10 with a small lens in any bag and carry me with me all day every day. Definitely won't be able to do that with a full frame.
Interesting.
Soon, I will try that camera!!
@@KenseiAkatsu bad rolling shutter no IBIS and no 10bit files unlike full frame A7x series but if you know how to workaround the APSC limitations it can still give you satisfactory results. Side flippy screen is a win, definitely.
awesome comparison. Subscribed
Great education
Thanks!!
im looking to get back into photography and need to relearn all of the settings like the back of my hand before I get back into professional work. Do you guys think it would be best to relearn on a cheaper new APSC instead of buying an old full frame then invest in the new full frame I want later ?
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