SONY A6700 vs SONY A7IV - which is actually better?
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Keen eyes will notice that I actually filmed this back in July 😅. I just haven't given myself the time to edit this due to lack of time. However it's out and what did you think?
Just ordered the a6700 with a sigma 18- 50mm 2.8. For me it’s the perfect upgrade from a Nikon 1 j5. Mainly because of its size which suits my style of taking photos.. on the go. Not just hiking and mountain biking camera, I like to take a camera with me wherever I go, even just to the shops just incase a opportunity catches my eye.
Great choice for that my friend 😊
I am hoping to buy the same camera and lens. Could you recommend that for a beginner photographer?
Dude your gonna love this Camera Sony has upgraded there shit for real!!!!
Thank you for the comparison, these cameras are irresistible, if you buy the A6700 you will want the A7IV and viceversa :)
Both really good and each has its advantage over the other ☺️
Great video! I was able to see a difference, even though it was very small. The highlight rolloff is always smoother on a FF sensor, that’s what gives it away for me. But the image coming from the a6700 is still fantastic. I would personally always pick FF over apsc. I’m using the original a7c and have fallen in love with the image it produces. I upgraded from an a6300, just because it is very old and beat up. It was time for retirement 😂
I didn’t think going FF would make a big difference, because I loved the old and trusty a6300, but it did. The files are so much more robust, and can take more pushing and pulling, and the low light is just amazing. Even the video quality looks a lot better and endures more pushing and pulling, still being 8bit. Although, when I bought the a7c, the 6700 wasn’t out yet. But I still think I would’ve gotten the FF, knowing what I know now 😂
Anyway, if on a 1500 budget for a body I’d say buy a used FF for photos, but maybe something like the 6700 for videos, if 10bit is important to you. But basically all of these Sony cameras are monsters and are more than capable of producing “professional” photos and videos.
Keep up the good work man! I love your channel. The content is getting better and better. I just miss Oscar, haven’t seen him in while 😂
Hahaha you miss Oscar, we will need to put him back on the channel then! Yea the highlight rolloff is better for sure, but the a6700 is a great bang for you buck indeed! Thank you brother for taking your time to comment :) I really appreciate it!
I sold my a7c for an a6700. People only seem to notice after I tell them I went back to APS-C (funny how that happens lol).
@@chosenideahandle yes thats actually a sensible comment.. people think Apc is less quality than FF. 😅
The one thing I never knew about apsc lens is that you also have to do the 1.5x with the aperture max I.e. if you have a 1.8f on apsc you’re really getting a 2.7 aperture 😮😮
Only in terms of depth of field though, you don’t get extra stops of light.
Aperture doesn't change. 1.8 is just that on all formats. The equivalent depth of field is the only change.
I won 2 prizes woo-hoo but I had to pause the photos
I have the FX30. I think the a6700 would be a great a/b-cam for my FX30. I actually shot some test footage with the a6700 at a Sony event and was extremely impressed with the results.
yea it's the same sensor as the fx30 so it would be a great little companion for sure! :)
That's what I ended up doing (FX30 plus a6700). I also needed something I could travel with that could trigger a flash, after selling my a7C.
@@chosenideahandle Sounds like a win win for you. Great choice.
@@chosenideahandlecolor matching these two easy using the 6700 as a B cam?
Your breakdown of the Sony a6700 and a74 was like a camera duel turned poetry-every technical detail danced to its own rhythm. You made comparing cameras an art form! 😎
😂😂 thank you I put to much work on this lol so I appreciate you notice
I love that you put blind tests into this, always helpful! Only able to tell the difference by DoF and never because of quality, DR or similar.
When you say that the new AF on the a6700 is better, can we somehow put that into numbers? like from 100 shots 97% hit rate vs 90% of the A7IV or what are we talking?
From my experience, hit rate with the A7iv on runners is between 5 and 70%. 70% in bright sunlight only. With the A6700, between 10 and 80%.
I consider sharp a picture that is as sharp as the same lens on a static subject. Misfocusing may not show on screens but it's obvious on A3 prints. You can look up my name and Ekiden Strasbourg, it is one 5% session with the A7iv.
I've bought a6700 for wildlife a month ago. I can't stand this evf on the left with the heavy lens, it completely changes the balance for me, so I decided to sell it and buy a7IV. Let's see how it will go :) I was hoping that I will bear with the crappy ergonomic of Sony Aps-c, but I can't.
I would love to see you do a A6700 vs A7C (or A7C II) comparison some day
Agreed. Much more appropriate today A7CII vs. A6700. Let’s get that done and don’t take 4 months to release it! Thanks.
😂😂😂 hey I have two small kids and multiple projects in the pipeline
The test scenes looked better with more in focus, so I preferred the images coming from the a6700 side. 🙃 Full frame might've won if it was stopped down to match though.
such a great video. Awesome edits, cuts, and multi-angle usage.
Thanks a ton!
the inexpensive APSC lenses are certainly tempting. The a6700 is great, but the full frame sensor crushes..especially when you use it everyday, 100k+images the difference at times is not always there, but you'll see it over the long run
I bet not carrying my full-frame crap anymore, and enjoying myself again will improve my images more than a sensor.
@@chosenideahandle no because I can carry all 6 of my lenses and my laptop in a bag under 18lbs like yes please
the Feeling of the Fullframe is notice crop it like a phone feelings
Very helpful! Thank you Arnulfur! Good luck man!
Bought the a7cii, ( my fault for not realising) but not a single zoom in the range of 16-55/16-50mm, and I can only afford one lens, since I do all types of photography, one lens is no use to me, so sending it back and sacrificing image quality a bit and going with the a6700 and, sony 16-55mm 2.8 g
I can see the difference, although I wouldn't argue one was 'better' than the other, just different looks. I prefer the full-frame, which is a shame as I like the idea of a cheaper, lighter camera.
Great comparison👍🏻just bought the a6700 body only, i spent two years before that with the a6000 with the kit lens nothing serious using it just for travelling, now im trying to get in the path of photographers 🤭🫣 always loved this passion of takings pictures, should i get the tamron 17-70 mm or sigma 18-50mm which one the you recommend and thanks 🙏🏻
Sigma 18-50 F2.8 and a Sigma 56mm 1.4 and you're set until you want to go pro! I did the same A6000+kit to A6700 and those lenses :D
@EricTheSwede thanks for the replay, exactly what I done, and I got the a7iv for wedding photography 👌 good luck to you 👍🏻
I have both, I shoot mostly sports and the A7iv AF is absolutely unreliable for runners when the weather is not bright sunlight. Hoped for improvement from the A6700, it's there but it's minimal. The EVF is worse, images are noisier, automatic white balance is tremendously improved. If I should keep only one, it would be the A6700, but both wiĺl go when a reasonably priced body with reliable AF is available.
A7cii may be what you’re looking for?
@@timothysteenwyk2978 The A7cii has no full mechanical shutter, it can only shoot first curtain electronic. It is said to degrade bokeh with long focal lenses at high speed, exactly what is used for sports. Besides the sensor is still very slow, so I doubt AF precision can be there. I believe that a fast sensor, at least like R8/R6 or stacked, is required.
ZVE1 has the best auto focus from Sony. Get the third-party cage and fan combo for $160 and rock out.
It is very easy to tell which is full frame if you are not compensating for the crop. If image quality is the ultimate deciding factor for you, then GO FULL FRAME 100% OF THE TIME. Crop sensor cameras will always look less good compared to full frame in terms of details, highlight roll off, noise, DOF etc. I was hoping for more handling and professional use inputs (audio) from this video.
Thanks for the feedback I will include that in future comparisons videos 😊
@@thaticelandicguy IMO you should talk about the 1080p quality (very useful for social, 16:9 is killing on IG) and show some colour adjustments.
Also, when you put in that bit talking about having more time with the cameras - I thought "okay here's what I wanted" then heard about more image talk. Real let down moment.
Somehow I find it awesome and practical for you to have something recorded months ago and "just need to edit" while still having enough videos to upload in the pipeline :) Awesome job as always!
Regarding the topic I have the feeling this APS-C and full frame discussion is only relevant, when you talk about low light or bad lighting conditions. It's in such environments, where full frame can really play its advantage. You are more flexible with full frame and can push the image a bit more. In good lighting condition, it really doesn't matter which camera you pick. Every camera nowadays has excelent image quality. Sure you could argue full frame can provide more bokeh, but companies like Viltrox are building excellent fast APS-C lenses which can rival full frame bokeh.
And if I'm honest, I also like the fast F stop on every lens and bokeh is always great, but yesterday I watched a lens review / vlog where the guy had to shoot at F22 since it always sunny outside and no ND filter available - me as a viewer didn't care less about the bokeh missing xD
Yea true, ff is better in lower light scenarios hands down. But I always record at least 2-3 videos at time. So I usually have a little backlog of videos to edit. I think I have like 4 now 🤪
@@thaticelandicguy damn at some point I have to get at that level to have a back log and therefore a safety net for regular uploads 😀
depending on what you shoot, there is isn't even a low light advantage. Say if you're photographing groups of people and want them all in focus, you would have to step down to get a deeper depth of field like on APSC. You'd loose your low light advantage
nice coment, bro. about Viltrox, it's 100% true. i have a A6500 with 2 Viltrox Lenses (33mm 1.4 and 85mm 1.8) and i've done awesomes photos with this two.
i'm videographer and videomaker. my thought it's about a hybrid camera that makes more sense to upgrade my old a6500.
I’ve been shooting with crop sensor all my life I know my next Sony camera will be a full-frame. 😊
Let’s go 🔥
I've got the A6700 as my first camera ever and it's really a tiny beast
Yeap, that can be good first camera. I use A6400, and I don't think I will find a place for it, it's time for A7CII at least. I found too much of limitations in APS-C sensors with slower apertures (like using f6.3 in forest or early-late day time)
yea it's a great little beast :)
It's a good first camera, middle camera or last camera.
Your videos are always well made but i actually really appreciate the break down and even i was surprised i was able distinguish the difference for a few of the pictures, keep up the good work and i love that you pronunciation keeps improving with each video but we still get bloopers 😅
Haha thank you so much 😂☺️🙏🏻
@@thaticelandicguy my pleasure, you do another for us the lease I can do is give a compliment, show gratitude and appreciation
I just got the A6700 coming from a ZV-E10 and I still can't wrap my head around everything it does 😅 I doubt I'll use it to it's full potential like ever
You’ll figure it out ☺️ congratulations on the upgrade!
We are looking to upgrade our a6400 since it doesn’t have ibis alot of the hand footage is just too shakey and hope that upgrading to an ibis camera will help hand held footage drastically look better.
I’d say we are 50/50, 70/30 video to photo use.
Out of these 3 which would you lean more towards
A6700, fx30, a74
If you're invested in APS-C lenses that would be one reason to stay clear of the a7IV. If you're happy with the image quality from your a6400 for stills, another reason you won't need the a7IV. If you travel with your gear, that is another reason to stay clear of full-frame. If you'll ever need a flash, bulb mode, mechanical shutter or an EVF then say no to the FX30. If you need to record long form video in the sun (even 24fps) then you'll eventually run into problems with the a6700. If you'd like two card slots then of course no a6700. I know I could probably get away with my a6700 for everything, although for paid work I'm still usually using my FX30 (even for photos). I really missed not having an EVF for photos, so it's a pleasure having that in the a6700.
I had both the A74 and 6700. I kept the 6700 - much less weight and bulk to carry around for minimally less lowlight power. (you really have to pixel peep...)
I'm not a donkey. With 3 APSC lenses, I still have a very small bag, including a somewhat heavy viltrox lens. Astro-fotography works just fine!
Hello from Finland and a great comparison! I have been playing with these Sony cameras for an long time. For travelling these 6xxx models are a better choice and the difference in image quality is negligible. Quality lenses are also more affordable. However, I´m also very fond of old manual legacy lenses, therefore the full frame sensor is the right format.
Totally agree! Btw what legacy lenses do you like the most if you had to pick a few?
I´m all for Olympus Zuiko lenses. They have a "modern" color cast, usually very sharp and the biggest advantage is that they are small. Modern autofocus lenses are sometimes too big when you travel.@@thaticelandicguy
@@peter_streng I've been adapting Zuiko and Rokkor lenses since the NEX 5. I was using them on my a7III and a7C, now I'm using them on APS-C cameras again.
I noticed the difference in the photos because of the extremely accurate focus on the subject of the photo. The quality of the A6700 is impressive!
Having switched from APS-C to full frame myself the differences in the comparison shots were pretty obvious to me because I was comparing the shots from the Nikon Z50 to the Nikon Z7 II I use now 🙂
Especially the first one gave it away. Same field of view, shallower depth of field on the left resulting from using the same focal length at a shorter distance.
...At least I assume you used the same lens and aperture, otherwise you can feel free to ignore me 🤪
But I think there were some very subtle differences in the dynamic range. On the full frame body you have just ever so slightly more details in the sky and the shadows. But it really is subtle and it might as well just be the look of that sensor.
Personally I did notice a pretty solid bump in dynamic range when I made the switch myself. For example, shooting in bright sunlight isn't nearly as tough anymore.
If your budget is high and money is no problem got with both, if you have medium budget go with a7iv……..if budget is too low and you still want good camera go with a6700(lens are cheaper)
Valuable Time for a Valuable Review 😎 10/10 👍
Thanks g!
Great job on the video! Thanks for making it.
Great video and really useful. The only noticeable difference between the comparison photos was a couple where the shallower depth of field gave away that it was the full frame camera. Other than that was zero noticeable difference which shows that people should try not to fall for the hype of full frame - unless they like paying over the odds for a camera and lenses and needing a pack horse to carry the massive full frame lenses 🙂
I Broughted a6700 Camera. Its great camera. Love it.Worth of money
What if someone just wants to take great, detailed stills with good colors while having a compact camera and later add a macro lens? Is 6700 good or should one go for A7C for example? They're very close in price.
i was able to see some difference in dynamic range and DoF, i will say though, the sony files from the a6400 onward have such a smooth rolloff in highlights you can fake the dynamic range of the fullframe sensor in editing usually
Well explained!
Thanks king!
I love full Frame and the price and weight of apsc glass. So I went with 2 A7IV bodies. But then again I own full frame and crop glass. The apsc is awesome fir travel and 4K 60 video
which is the best for streaming ?
Good review. I only do photography and already have several lenses for my a6400. While I've been a little torn with going FF I really don't think it's worth the cost with the very minor noticeable difference between the 6700 and a FF. I've pretty much made up my mind to just upgrade to the 6700 and sell my 6400 to recover a bit of the cost that way I don't need new lenses (yes I know I can use my lenses on a FF camera). If I was going to do video or only or primarily do night photography then I would jump to FF.
But I just bought the A7iv 😍😍 and just use the 4K 50fps when it’s needed otherwise I’m shooting most of the time on 25fps. I think people should know the limitations of their gear and figure out what they can do to surpass the negatives .🎞️ ❤
Agree ❤️❤️❤️
How do they compliment each other? So like your most serious weekend photographers or maybe pros and you are covering a range of capability for fun or work. Which pair of cameras keeps you light and capable in producing fun or professional content with ease and quality? Big question yes, but in the end, we all want to have fun.
Well thank you, I bought the 6700 yesterday and am I looking forward to using it, as opposed to my 6100 which has served me well :-)
Hey , im using a6700 but the high iso kinda suck, should i upgrade to a7iv ( im not professional one , just travel and people shooting )
GREAT VIDEO!!! THANK YOU!!!
Glad you liked it!
I saw the differences, A6700 has the new BionzXR Processor and the colours are better. I can't see any differences about dynamic range. It's very similar. APS-C should be worse on that but no, it's not clearly visible.
Im clearly hesitating to buy this A6700. I'm hesitating with the A7CII but the full frame lenses are too big and heavy. I would like better low light performances than my actual A6500 but i will probably invest in very fast aperture lenses like the new SIRUI Sniper lenses.
can you hit 1/8000s SS in first curtain shutter with a6700?
If i would have been not in India i would definitely go for A700 But due to i am a Citizen of India people here thinks that larger camera or longer camera gives larger Quality so i should go for Sony A7 IV
Unfair comparison! Should have been a6700 and a7CII
24 - 26 Mp is enough for A1 Size Prints and whether you capture photos on 50mp or 160mp you gonna upload on IG at 1 - 2 MP only and for video purpose these expensive cameras are good
I have both
@THAT ICELANDIC GUY. hi, my name is Karissa. I'm 17yo from Indonesia. I wanna ask you a question that might be worth a content for your channel. let me explain this first I'm new in videography world but i love to make films or short videos, but i have only Fujifilm X-T1 in my possesion which is not the right or ideal camera for videography. Certaintly i need to upgrade my gear, but my question is do i really need a full frame camera? while the only platform i choose to show my works is youtube.
If you can respon to my question Thank🙏🏼you very much.
No I don’t think you need full frame. The first 5 years if me creating content and the first 300+ videos I made here were all shot on a budget old Sony apsc camera. Just use what ever you have and don’t let anyone else tell you otherwise ☺️
@@thaticelandicguy thank you so much. Hearing this from a senior YT CC gave me a solid reason.
Please tell me witch lens you use in a6700 when you compare?
Sony 16-55 2.8 ☺️
Does anyone know what cameras have the AI focus that’s in the a6700 or better? It’s so good I want a FF but only if it matches it/is better
Zve1 has it ☺️ and maybe a7cii?
So can I put an apsc e mount lens on full frame?
Yea 🙌🏻
Sony a6700 vs Canon r8?
Never tried the canon unfortunately
The full frame is better, always
What about sony a6700 vs A7c2?
What are your thoughts on the Sony A6600?
I've honestly never tried it. But I owned the a6400 and used it a whole lot and I really liked that camera. The A6600 is the same camera (sesor wise) just has a better battery and Ibis. So I think it's probably pretty good :)
0:53 hahaha 😂
Still can’t decide whether I should buy a7 IV or the a7R V for portraits and landscape. But that extra EUR 1,350 for the a7R V is noticeable 😅
Nice one. Please make a comparison between a6700 and zve10 😅
Thank you! There’s really nothing to compare there 😅 a6700 is better en every aspect
@@thaticelandicguy what about footage quality?
00:40 😂❤
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Im on a74… but my wallet says otherwise 😂
😂
a7iv densest have ai nore firmware updates ugh
You need to put the name of camera not 1 or 2
No. That defeats the whole purpose of his video.
Hey brother hope you're okay and atleast getting some good earthquake photos or footage !!!!!🎉
How is using A6700 or A7CII / A7IV in rain or snow situations. Let's be honest autumn can be rainy, as winter can be snowy. What if rain/snow drops 24/7. Would you use any of these cameras in that situation or you recommend using any cover? (Either way, could you recommend some good covers though? 😅😅)
PS: 3:49 - I thought right side was A7IV!!! Holly crap.. These colours are A LOT better and even like dynamic range and sharpness looked like higher. I don't know.. Can't be serious..😂
That was right, the a6700 is a great camera :) The a74 should be a bit better for photo and I still like the FF look a lot. I'm pretty yolo with my gear and you shouldn't take advice from me about rain covers lol.
However my friend showed me one thing that was awesome. You know that plastic bag thingy that grandmas use in the shower to cover their hair so it won't get wet? Since it has an elastic band around it then it's great. Cut a hole in the middle and your good :)
@@thaticelandicguy I'd like to be yolo with the gear too! 😂😂 Maybe one day...?
Thank you for an idea. I bought some cheap plastic covers but they are XXL size, and they fit like 200-600 mm only LOL... maybe even too big for that...
I brought A6700 to Hokkaido (the coldest part of Japan) last December and it was quite snowy on some days and I was not too shy to use it at all on those days. It's 12-day trip and over half of the trip I got snow all the time. Now it's May 2024 the caemra still rocks with 0 issue.
Great vid. Although, small gripe. No camera has AI in. That's just marketing fluff 😂
Probably some gimmicks 😂
Btw all gripes welcome here 😂
This is an apple to orange review. Why not throw a banana into the mix, the FX-30, the cine camera with a fan. This review is incomplete as you cover stills and video. So, it is important to talk about long time video recording and heat. Confusion comes into play when you exclude one camera that really can seal the deal for someone who is new to the photography. The Sony camera lineup is a buffet, with different cameras for different uses for different environments, etc. So. think about where the cameras are going to be used. There are so many variables that it is almost impossible to say which camera is the best. Hiking to some place that is full of landscape imagery vs a party vs street photography vs portraits vs client videos vs weddings vs family picture etc. should define the camera(s) to be used.
See how only highlighting two cameras doesn't complete the discussion!!!!!!! I watch a lot of videos and see the variety of uses for cameras and the variety of cameras suited for those purposes. Being on Iceland doing Iceland photography is very different from the streets of New York, San Francisco and Miami. Hope your understand. Gee, picking a camera for those film SLR camera days was easy. We just looked for the brand we wanted and be done with it.
Why are you so upset?
I feel you man. It is like apple vs oranges. I mean these are two completley different sensor. You have to agree though that it would be hard for me to cover every need every user that might look at this video might possibly have? But I get you I'll try to do better in the future for sure
You did well :) @@thaticelandicguy
Didn’t watch, A7IV is better. I’m out
Can you please make a video pairing the sony a6700 with the 18-105mm f4 G OSS lens please 🙏🙏 it doesn't need to be a very long video.
Maybe maybe 👀
@@thaticelandicguy thank you, I'd really appreciate if
@@thaticelandicguyPlease make a video on this topic. I really wanna know.
what exactly do you want to know about that combination
@@DDHDTV How compact they are together, if it's a great combination for beginner photography and film making and if the quality of a ten year old lens pairs well with the brand new camera because I want to purchase these as both my first body and lens and prefer knowing the pairing works well together. 🙏👀