Guitarists going on and on about how solid state amps are compressed, when they have solid state overdrive pedals boosting the amp to help tame the distortion on their tube amps is my favorite form of irony.
@@Gravy1255 sure, show me a guy using a modern amplifier who bosts and already crazily overdistorted signal. If you use a Marshall or something, sure. But does everyone use Marshall today?
True statement dude, but also remember that Dime also used a doubler pedal, a Bill Lawrence XL pickup, a 15" speaker with two 12" speakers, and a host of other Texan space voodoo magic (effects, two loops, etc.) to pull off his sound. My favorite thing in the world is when you hear a tone and then someone reveals that is a head you've heard a million times over, but the guitarist in question has a unique approach that makes you want to try to ring every last drop of tone possible from your own setup. Nothing is better than making your own voodoo space magic! 🤘🤙
@@jamesmcgrath849 it’s all true. And that is what makes music wonderful. It doesn’t matter HOW you get your tone. As long as you find the way to express yourself, all is well.
@@jamesmcgrath849Dime used 4x12 and 2x15 crossover for the Reinventing and Extreme steel tour and for half a year of Damageplan tour until he switched to Krank, not his entire music career.
@@starscream007 Yup, I was just making an example of how someone can apply creative rig construction to shape a tone that you've heard many times into something different that sparks others' interest and creativity. I wasn't intending to start a debate over the finer points of PanterA's career and timeline, but good on you for knowing them as well!
Agree. I bought the Ironheart 120 a few years back. Probably one of the most versatile tube amps I have played. Some time later, I also bought the Ironheart Studio to get the same tome in my bedroom. Damn these amps kick ass.
I have always had disdain for tube amps. The cost, the bs, the weight, the babying.... i envy bassists who can have pocket sized amps (the trace elliot elf is ridiculous). Small solid states are so economical and sound great. MOAR PLS. Couldn't clikc fast enough on this
I envy bassists too for that reason I’ve debated on switching to being a full time bassist for that reason alone. Look at how much tone you get with something like a dark glass amp head!
When a solid state amp is designed right it can sound amazing. Roland JC-120, Peavey Bandit, Orange Crush, and the newly released Laney LFSuper60 are four that come to mind.
I've used many tube amps for well over a decade. These days I primarily use an Orange Super Crush because it sounds great and works very well with pedals. People need to stop worrying about whether their amp is tube or not and just play the damn thing to see for themselves what they like.
Solid state can sound really close to tubes with certain boosts in front of the amp along with a graphic EQ in the loop to shape the tone of the amp before after the preamp but before the power amp. If you stick a pure clean boost in front of a solid state amp you’ll have a much easier time adding enough compression to keep the front end sounding tight without having to overload the front end with a bunch of gain, this is also really good because it allows you to get all of your gain and saturation from the amp instead having to boost the front end with an overdrive and leave you with a really weak and sterile sounding gain structure.
I can have similar tones out of my boosted 6505+ to the tones out of my boosted SC100. TS style boost in the front, PARAMETRIC EQ in the back!! I have plenty of 5, 6, 7 and 10 band graphic EQs, and the real game changer was the Ibanez PTEQ 5 band parametric EQ. I recommend it to everyone looking to shape any tone you seek.
GLENNNN !! You are Banging it out. Kicking it down. I was all tubes , McIntosh mains, big Peavey twins for the guitar , in the 80s and 90s by the 2000 it was over. No one could afford to play live.. Insurance, security, etc.. Recently I am inspired and getting back into it without a tube in the process. Spark, Boss Katana and Marshall Electronics are much much better. Much easier on my back. Keep it going ! Keep pushing the high gain tone wood.
One of my favorite SS amps is the Fender London Reverb, made in the early 80’s. Shipped in 1x12 combo- JBL speaker- and a head/cab setup with a 4X12 cabinet. Had a 5-band Eq, and the combo amp actually had external speaker outs, to expand to a larger cabinet. It had a really chainsaw 80’s tone. Growls, fizzy, and loud as hell… you can still find the combo online from time to time, for under 400 bucks
Oh hell yes. A friend of mine used to run a Laney Linebacker head boosted with a Boss EQ pedal years ago, this puts me in mind of the tones he cranked out. Very cool indeed.
Great video!! Loved the part at the end where you were showing the amps in a mix and the bassist looked completely lost and confused as to what the hell he was doing there, spot on!! Too funny!!
I wanna know if it's loud enough for rehearsal with a full band? Just looking to go light weight these days. Glenn, Most metal bands have clean parts in some of their best songs. Not sure why you hate clean so much. Clean can still be metal AF. Hell, when I was touring, I ran to 50 watt heads both running through their own 112 open-back cab. I ran them together with an ABY pedal. I ran clean on one and dirty on the other. Clean went through a V30 with the mesh cap and dirty went through a G12H Creamback which is be far my favorite speaker. I may not be the greatest guitarist. But every show. Damn near every guitarist from the other bands wanted to know about my setup. Because my tone was some of the best they had ever heard in a live setting.
I was going to guess no more than $500 on the little one. $430 for the big one is great! and they sound great, too! Nail classic metal tones and get heavier still if you want it. I like SS distortions a lot. Also that guitar is Alexi Laiho approved, a bridge humbucker is all you need >_> lol as a bass player, if I saw a guitarist show up with one of these I'd think they were finally smart enough to stop carrying around massive heads that weigh as much as a speaker cab Back to my crayons. They still color even if the tips are eaten off.
Hell, if you need more gain from these, like you'd ever need more gain, you could always put a Screamer in front of one. Honestly though, there's not as much gain on those older recordings as you think there is. Modern Metal distortion is just overkill in my book.
Wow that sounds good. That mid to late ‘70s era Priest distortion is the holy grail IMO. I think they got those tones with cranked Marshalls and treble boosters, back in the day.
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Quite like that. Much more my kind of guitar sound than your typical modern metal sound - not a criticism, just my preference. Very good.
The thing is when people who play at bedroom level yell about tube vs solid state. I have Marshall MG30 (solid state) and a Marshall DSL 40 (as tube as it gets) I play in my bedroom mostly and the MG30 sounds just as good as low volumes, might even sound better actually. It's when you turn it up when the MG sounds worse the louder it gets, meanwhile the DSL obviously sounds better the louder it goes. That's really the only big difference between the two in my limited experience.
The problem with the solid state vs tubes discussions is that it's biased and based on historically great tube amps vs historically horrible solid state amps. The problem has never been tubes vs transistors, but rather tube amp design vs solid state amp design. I'm really loving that amp designers have started to embrace solid state a bit more, putting work into making them sound great and not just being the crappy alternative for people on a budget.
I always thought tube vs solid state was personal preference, but objectively speaking the quest for a great tube amp has always been much easier than the quest for a great solid state amp. I think that goes right with what you're saying. Back in the day, the marketing was always, "Can't afford a tube Marshall? Buy this solid state budget imitation." The results were almost always lack luster. However, over the years, there have been some great solid state amps out there, like the Marshall MOSFET, and the Ampeg VH140C, which took the great clean channel of the Roland JC120, and gave it a great gain channel. The killer solid states were always out there. You just had to search for them.
May as well; there’s SO MANY professionals using digital modeling rigs in both rehearsals & performances before thousands. FFDP has been on Kemper since Andy joined the band.
I have a tube headphone amp. Having to replace tubes on it makes me lean more towards solid state. It sounds great, but, solid state means I have less crap to maintain
glenn thanks for your constant energy and commitment to music dude, you make youtube a bright place for us musos, and all the best of health to you man, j in the uk
I love tube amps too but hate the costs of tubes these days. That being the case my next amp will be solid state. Tube amps have gotten to expensive to have and to expensive to keep up.
Holy crap Glenn?!! Are you legit telling me that the Laney Dualtop head has a DI out with the actual freaking option of completely bypassing the unwanted built in analog cab sim?!! (Squints really hard at the Orange Supercrush 100) Amazing! Potential sleeper down tuned Metal/DooM home recording amp of win?! Definitely seems like it! Wowzers! Fantastic demo BTW! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Kudos Glen for trying the low gain settings, we even got some clean playing! But seriously I appreciate it dude, it gives us a better idea of how it breaks up, how the EQ is effected etc. I really liked the hi gain tone but I didnt like the way it seemed to have a hi frequency spike at lower gain. Great for the early Priest tone but I want something smoother at low gain.
Like can you not? This is exactly the type of amp I like. But I don’t need another one. I wish they could be like Behringer where they say products just started to be shipped but aren’t available anywhere for 8 months
I started my guitar journey in the 1980s with solid-state amps, but when I could buy my first Tube Amp, I never looked back. I tried them again as I grew older, and technology improved, primarily because of their lightweight feature. I had a Katana, but I only used it a few times. It was loud enough for my needs, but I sold it after a year of collecting dust in my house. Tube amp repairs are expensive, and with the economy these days, I'm always thinking of when the technology will be good enough. I've been watching the Laneys LF Super 60 and Quilter Aviator Cub UK. Maybe is time to try again. The Quilter Aviator Cub UK is more my vibe, though.
Awesome review Glenn! These look great - however couple of features that could have been added (and would have been worth the extra $$$ for them): 1 - MIDI switchable channels/possibly even MIDI switchable boost. MIDI use is more and more common these days 2 - An option to load 3rd party IRs onto them. Yes you can run into a TwoNotes or a Mooer Radar or something similar however that is an additional piece of gear to have to bring. Also given that Laney has already released a head with TwoNotes IR loading in it, I'm surprised they didn't bother to with these (unless they were really aggressively targeting a certain price point).
I know this video is a couple months old, but let’s get real about amps for a minute. Neither tube or solid state is inherently better. Tube amps are actually typically simpler than solid state amps. Tubes are the older technology and that tech has evolved over time. Solid state amps were not usually given the same care and treatment. I think this is mostly due to ignorance and bias towards “tube mojo” I think some ss amps came very close to hitting the mark, specially Peavey, but they fell short by not using good speakers and often not desired cabinets. As Glenn has shown us, this is where the tone lives. The only real advantage tube amps have from a design perspective is output transformers. The relationship the transformer has with the speakers can be “magic”(it’s actually just science). Quilter amps are an example of how amazing solid state amps can be. They were designed next to favored tube amps in an attempt to recreate the response and tone. I wish more companies would think about it in the same manner.
I prefer solid state over tube amps and my favorite was one I played way back. A Hughes & Kettner Attax 200 Stereo Chorus head (there was a combo too). 200 watts of monster power. I loved it and have recent been looking for one in top condition but seem to only find the combos or newer H&K stuff.
Totally agree Glen. Solid state amps have come so far since the 90's. I'm playing though Line 6 Catalyst 60 and it's served every purpose I have as home studio musician. I probably wouldn't gig with it (not sure, never tried) but it's been a great investment. Not to mention it has some built-in Helix goodness.
I would definitely gig with a catalyst. They are solid amps. They take a lot of the excess nonsense that the spider line is known for, out of the equation. Now, that being said. I would make sure to mic it up as it might not have enough power to keep up with venues larger than a bar. And be sure to test it out with a few different mics before committing to bringing it out to a show.
Isn't the Line 6 a modeling amp? Or am I mistaken? I feel like this is half the reason solid state gets a bad reputation. It gets confused with digital.
I got the Ironheart pedal after watching…I think it was the Anderton’s Music review of it. And yours of course. Put a compressor on it and ran all my other effects through the effects loop. I still use my tube amps at home, but for gigging? For band practice? For recording? There is simply no going back unless I really need to. I also got rid of my extra distortion pedals because I don’t need those anymore. Nice to lighten the load.
Glad you featured these and the stomp version. I got the pedal a couple of days ago. I was also considering the Blackstar amp pedal but for less than $250 figured I should try the Laney first. And why do they kick some serious ass. And I don't care what anybody says even a tube amp can suck. One thing really great Rock and metal tube amps gave us was the sound that became the measuring stick. And now we know what they're supposed to sound like so as long as we can replicate it who gives a fuck where it comes from. That little laney stop pedal sounds better than most amps I've played through. And even though the katana is popular I think this lady sounds and feels way better not knocking boss I have a gt100 that sounds so much better than the katana. The Soldano model in the gt100 paired up with a tube screamer in front of it is one of the best sounding Amp tones I've ever heard. You and I are both serious Judas Priest fans so we know if we're getting that sound or not that sound or not and the Laney definitely gets right into Judas Priest territory.
Laneys are underrated. Love my IRT SLS, best of both worlds! And because speakers are everyones favorite topic for good reason: I'm running it through a custom DIY 2x12 with Jensen Tornados which sounds brutal. Through my V30 cab, the IRT is a rocker like many others, through the Tornados it's a growling metal machine.
For those wondering, the ditty one is 300 USD while the bigger boi is 430. The little one does NOT have a DI output and of course it does NOT have a clean channel!! :)
I have been lusting after a Lion Heart but may have to give one of these a shot. I feel like Glenn is always trying to save us money and Kyle Bull is always getting us to spend money. :D
The Peavey TransTube amps released in 2011 were just awesome and the Bandit is STILL in production. The MSRP is $599.99 in the US and I just found one here in Canada for $649.99. Pretty crazy. No software. No built-in multi-effects. Just a great solid amp. I wouldn't say they're worth THAT much but they are pretty spectacular.
I got that Bandit as a practice amp. Took out the Peavey speaker and popped in a vintage 30, ran a tubescreamer with a distortion and an eq in the front, then threw chorus and reverb with another eq in the effects loop. People couldn't believe how good and crunchy it sounded.
@@teebee6689I never even thought of replacing the speaker. I found that it took pedals VERY well and all I had to do was select the correct clean preamp (it was thee 2nd or 3rd). And that thing was whisper quiet. On the clean channels you couldn't even tell that it was on. No hum, no buzz, no hiss... nothing. I'm using a 50W Katana now but I found the channels just didn't do it for me. Ended up buying a multi-preamp sim and it just goes straight to the PWR AMP IN. Cab sim off, people. Cab sim OFF. I shake my head in disbelief when I see people connect a preamp pedal to their amp's guitar input on demo videos. And these guys are supposed to be pros.
@@EsteemedRepresentative I found the stock speaker in the Bandit to be a bit lacking compared to a broken in v30. And yeah, it's a great pedal platform. I was going for a real nasty metal tone right from the start and managed to dial in a great tone with pedals. What sim are you using ? I was looking into checking one out.
@@teebee6689 I'm using the Joyo R-15 Preamp House. I love the WYSIWYG design but for more pristine emulations then the Strymon Iridium may be the way to go. Here's a really good A vs. B demo. th-cam.com/video/XnWqc4u1af8/w-d-xo.html
@@EsteemedRepresentative They both sound pretty decent. In my opinion Joyo doesn't get enough love. I've played several of their mini lunchbox amps. You just can't beat the price/sound ratio with those. Having said that, I'm leaning towards the Strymon. I've heard a lot of good things about them so I might give it a go.
Sounds great, but no IEC power? Seems like you should have mentioned that. Everyone has spare cables, not everyone has a spare proprietary AC power supply.
I have a discontinued Laney Cub 10 tube amp among my many cheap tube amps. I have one and a half SS amps, an Orange Micro Terror with a single 12AX7 in the preamp, and an all SS Friedman BE Mini. That puppy has no clean sounds, it's basically a distortion pedal in a tiny amp cab.
I said as soon as I heard how toppy those amps where, "MIX READY!!!" was the thought and boy was I right. I was waiting for the mix, and then yep, I was right... jaw dropped on how great that mix came out!
It really does come down to the speakers. Best tone I ever got was a Guitar Research Labs 60 watt Solid State head through a pair of Sunn 2 X 10 cabinets.
My buddy has an old Laney AOR head with a Laney 4x12, & the thing is phenomenal, & I've repeatedly told him if he ever is insane enough to want to sell it, I'd take it .... Laney have grossly been forgotten/overlooked ... they make some brilliant stuff. If iLaney was good enough for Lord Iommi, it's good enough for the rest of us.
Laney is an amazing amp company, and kinda underrated for what they really are. When i started playing i really love the basic ss combos that they had, specially because there are all over the place here in my country. We had 2 15 watt guitar amps and 1 bass amp in my school and that's what i grew up with. 2 years ago i bought, what i consider to he my dream amp when i was 14, a Laney irt studio used for like 150 bucks without the footswitch. I love that amp, 15 watt tube power, usb and DI outputs (the headphone one is fucking trash tho) in a comfortable size (rack unit style). I use it with a DIY 1x12 cab with a eminence gb128 for recording/playing, and also i use it with some IRs via the DI out to my interface. Amazing amps for great price, maybe a hidden gem for some
I love the tone killswitch engage got on the disarm the decent record I think they used laney iron hearts on that one and switched to the Tony Iomi heads by laney very awesome tones and I love the throaty sounds they were able to get with those amps
Your guitar sound here has quite a bite in the midrange... Sounds great! I don't recall your BV25Ms having such a bitey midrange in other vids. Is it the amp or the mics? Or is it some EQ in the mix?
In the mix, was very appealing and with the speed of those mosfets, it kinda gives it a bit of and edgier sound..... All in all, I like that sound and maybe one day, I might be able to grab one new or used.
I have seen a series of these Solid State "mini heads" ...All 30 watts, single channel....Copies of their "big brothers."....Soldano, Friedman, Diezel, Bogner.....Not sure what company makes them. Have you tried any of them yet Glenn?
I'm using a Seymour Duncan PowerStage 700 with my Fractal FM3, run it into a pair of Mesa Widebody 1x12's. Sold my Mesa Mark amps and don't really miss them. The trick is tweaking the FM3, but the PowerStage does a really good job. Oh yeah, I've previously owned a dumped a TON of money on USA guitars such as Suhr, Tom Anderson, PRS, Gibson, Ernie Ball, etc. All I own now is a few Korean Schecter. While Tom Anderson and Suhr make great guitars I'm more than satisfied with my Schecter Solo II Custom and SVSS Exotic Super Shredder.
Well, these sound like my solid state Randall combo from the 90s which i gave away because there's something in the gain structure i don't like. I mean it can work quite well in a band mix and not all solid state amps have this sort of sound but saying there's generally no difference is quite a bold statement. Maybe i'm just an Engl guy, there's also lots of tube amps i don't like for a variety of subjective reasons.
I'm a dumb bass player. Do you have any videos about different map speaker sizes (10 v 12 v 15 etc.)? Is there a big enough difference where the speaker size matters, or is this another tone wood debate? ( I know that there are different manufactures and tons of variability but I wanted to know what you think about it) Thanks and rock on!
I wonder if this thing could do 2000s style metalcore with a tube screamer type pedal in front of it. I know KSE have used Laneys, so that could probably get me somewhere.
My brother-in-law got me a kit guitar for Christmas. Grabbed a line 6 from the pawn shop. Assembled everything and tuned it up, But I could not get the intonation. A played it for a year and a half, then got a tiny joyo meatOR. Tried setting up the intonation and BAM everything intonated. The line 6 could not produce enough of the over tones to intonate. I thought it was free apps suck. Turns out, line 6 is less good than if I would have just unplugged and tuned my intonation acoustically 😂
Hey Glenn, I have a question about live mixing. The venue I’m at recently got a drum enclosure, and the cymbal bleed into the snare and tom mics is exponentially worse than it was. I’m not sure how to deal with this. If I gate the cymbals out, I lose the sustain from the toms. Could it be mic type? And yes, I moved the cymbals up lol. They’re about as high as I can get them. Thanks! Love the vids
@@myopicautisticmetal9035 It’s more the fact that it’s overpowering the rest of the kit. I don’t want to completely kill it, just make it so it’s not ruining the rest of the drum sounds
Guitarists going on and on about how solid state amps are compressed, when they have solid state overdrive pedals boosting the amp to help tame the distortion on their tube amps is my favorite form of irony.
What's more is tubes and the required output transformers compress more than transistors.
Not everyone who uses tubes boosts with a pedal. And even who does, not always and not in all the situations.
@@KeepAnOpenMind99% of metal guitarist use an overdrive
@@Gravy1255 sure, show me a guy using a modern amplifier who bosts and already crazily overdistorted signal. If you use a Marshall or something, sure. But does everyone use Marshall today?
Distortion compresses the sound due to its nature, so I don't know what they're complaining about.
Dime played solid state and ripped it like no other. If it sounds good, put a wicked smile on and let the riffing do the talking.
True statement dude, but also remember that Dime also used a doubler pedal, a Bill Lawrence XL pickup, a 15" speaker with two 12" speakers, and a host of other Texan space voodoo magic (effects, two loops, etc.) to pull off his sound. My favorite thing in the world is when you hear a tone and then someone reveals that is a head you've heard a million times over, but the guitarist in question has a unique approach that makes you want to try to ring every last drop of tone possible from your own setup. Nothing is better than making your own voodoo space magic! 🤘🤙
@@jamesmcgrath849 it’s all true. And that is what makes music wonderful. It doesn’t matter HOW you get your tone. As long as you find the way to express yourself, all is well.
@@jamesmcgrath849Dime used 4x12 and 2x15 crossover for the Reinventing and Extreme steel tour and for half a year of Damageplan tour until he switched to Krank, not his entire music career.
@@starscream007 Yup, I was just making an example of how someone can apply creative rig construction to shape a tone that you've heard many times into something different that sparks others' interest and creativity. I wasn't intending to start a debate over the finer points of PanterA's career and timeline, but good on you for knowing them as well!
Laney's are severely underrated, especially for metal!
Metal was literally created on Laneys. I dont know why people sleep on them.
Tony Iommi ❤ Laney, so i do!
Agree. I bought the Ironheart 120 a few years back. Probably one of the most versatile tube amps I have played. Some time later, I also bought the Ironheart Studio to get the same tome in my bedroom. Damn these amps kick ass.
@@Dragonfyre137I have a 60W Ironheart. Love it. Very versatile for sure. Lovely clean channel even.
A friend of mine has the Studio. He loves it too.
my AOR50 is my favorite amp ive ever had by far.
I have always had disdain for tube amps. The cost, the bs, the weight, the babying.... i envy bassists who can have pocket sized amps (the trace elliot elf is ridiculous). Small solid states are so economical and sound great. MOAR PLS. Couldn't clikc fast enough on this
I envy bassists too for that reason I’ve debated on switching to being a full time bassist for that reason alone. Look at how much tone you get with something like a dark glass amp head!
I got a Warwick Gnome, it works GREAT for guitar.
It's a clean AF power amp with tone controls, it's a great pedal platform.
When a solid state amp is designed right it can sound amazing. Roland JC-120, Peavey Bandit, Orange Crush, and the newly released Laney LFSuper60 are four that come to mind.
I still have my Peavey Bandit and still love that thing!
That surprised the heck out of me when you cranked the gain! That is actually a really great heavy rock tone. The speakers sure help a lot.
And when the booster kicks in, perfection! 🤘🤘
I've used many tube amps for well over a decade.
These days I primarily use an Orange Super Crush because it sounds great and works very well with pedals.
People need to stop worrying about whether their amp is tube or not and just play the damn thing to see for themselves what they like.
Solid state can sound really close to tubes with certain boosts in front of the amp along with a graphic EQ in the loop to shape the tone of the amp before after the preamp but before the power amp.
If you stick a pure clean boost in front of a solid state amp you’ll have a much easier time adding enough compression to keep the front end sounding tight without having to overload the front end with a bunch of gain, this is also really good because it allows you to get all of your gain and saturation from the amp instead having to boost the front end with an overdrive and leave you with a really weak and sterile sounding gain structure.
The best way I've found to describe the "tube sound" is that they sound more "throaty" than solid state.
Something something piano lows
I can have similar tones out of my boosted 6505+ to the tones out of my boosted SC100.
TS style boost in the front, PARAMETRIC EQ in the back!!
I have plenty of 5, 6, 7 and 10 band graphic EQs, and the real game changer was the Ibanez PTEQ 5 band parametric EQ.
I recommend it to everyone looking to shape any tone you seek.
Nice edits Glenn! The quality of your vids have been steadily increasing! Love the content my dude
I used a solid state Marshall and a Sun Bass Amp to gig and record in the 80s and 90s.
GLENNNN !! You are Banging it out. Kicking it down. I was all tubes , McIntosh mains, big Peavey twins for the guitar , in the 80s and 90s by the 2000 it was over. No one could afford to play live.. Insurance, security, etc..
Recently I am inspired and getting back into it without a tube in the process. Spark, Boss Katana and Marshall Electronics are much much better. Much easier on my back. Keep it going ! Keep pushing the high gain tone wood.
One of my favorite SS amps is the Fender London Reverb, made in the early 80’s. Shipped in 1x12 combo- JBL speaker- and a head/cab setup with a 4X12 cabinet.
Had a 5-band Eq, and the combo amp actually had external speaker outs, to expand to a larger cabinet. It had a really chainsaw 80’s tone. Growls, fizzy, and loud as hell… you can still find the combo online from time to time, for under 400 bucks
Oh hell yes.
A friend of mine used to run a Laney Linebacker head boosted with a Boss EQ pedal years ago, this puts me in mind of the tones he cranked out. Very cool indeed.
That full mix sounded FUCKING AMAZING!!! Especially for someone like me who never left the 1980s!
The 80's is when I fell in love with Metal, and I thank god for Laney to recreate that tone just for fans like me!
Great video!! Loved the part at the end where you were showing the amps in a mix and the bassist looked completely lost and confused as to what the hell he was doing there, spot on!! Too funny!!
I wanna know if it's loud enough for rehearsal with a full band?
Just looking to go light weight these days.
Glenn, Most metal bands have clean parts in some of their best songs. Not sure why you hate clean so much. Clean can still be metal AF. Hell, when I was touring, I ran to 50 watt heads both running through their own 112 open-back cab. I ran them together with an ABY pedal. I ran clean on one and dirty on the other.
Clean went through a V30 with the mesh cap and dirty went through a G12H Creamback which is be far my favorite speaker.
I may not be the greatest guitarist. But every show. Damn near every guitarist from the other bands wanted to know about my setup. Because my tone was some of the best they had ever heard in a live setting.
That unboxing table transition was spot on
I was going to guess no more than $500 on the little one. $430 for the big one is great! and they sound great, too! Nail classic metal tones and get heavier still if you want it. I like SS distortions a lot. Also that guitar is Alexi Laiho approved, a bridge humbucker is all you need >_>
lol as a bass player, if I saw a guitarist show up with one of these I'd think they were finally smart enough to stop carrying around massive heads that weigh as much as a speaker cab
Back to my crayons. They still color even if the tips are eaten off.
Hell, if you need more gain from these, like you'd ever need more gain, you could always put a Screamer in front of one. Honestly though, there's not as much gain on those older recordings as you think there is. Modern Metal distortion is just overkill in my book.
@@kiillabytez you're not wrong. Less gain and more stacked tracks. The difference between "bedroom sound" and "recording sound"
Wow that sounds good. That mid to late ‘70s era Priest distortion is the holy grail IMO. I think they got those tones with cranked Marshalls and treble boosters, back in the day.
Quite like that. Much more my kind of guitar sound than your typical modern metal sound - not a criticism, just my preference. Very good.
The thing is when people who play at bedroom level yell about tube vs solid state.
I have Marshall MG30 (solid state) and a Marshall DSL 40 (as tube as it gets)
I play in my bedroom mostly and the MG30 sounds just as good as low volumes, might even sound better actually.
It's when you turn it up when the MG sounds worse the louder it gets, meanwhile the DSL obviously sounds better the louder it goes.
That's really the only big difference between the two in my limited experience.
The problem with the solid state vs tubes discussions is that it's biased and based on historically great tube amps vs historically horrible solid state amps. The problem has never been tubes vs transistors, but rather tube amp design vs solid state amp design. I'm really loving that amp designers have started to embrace solid state a bit more, putting work into making them sound great and not just being the crappy alternative for people on a budget.
And I LOVED these amps! Should probably have opened with that! ;)
I always thought tube vs solid state was personal preference, but objectively speaking the quest for a great tube amp has always been much easier than the quest for a great solid state amp. I think that goes right with what you're saying. Back in the day, the marketing was always, "Can't afford a tube Marshall? Buy this solid state budget imitation." The results were almost always lack luster. However, over the years, there have been some great solid state amps out there, like the Marshall MOSFET, and the Ampeg VH140C, which took the great clean channel of the Roland JC120, and gave it a great gain channel. The killer solid states were always out there. You just had to search for them.
And still today transistor amps are feature poor. For example, combos practically never have the option for an external cab.
May as well; there’s SO MANY professionals using digital modeling rigs in both rehearsals & performances before thousands.
FFDP has been on Kemper since Andy joined the band.
I have a tube headphone amp. Having to replace tubes on it makes me lean more towards solid state. It sounds great, but, solid state means I have less crap to maintain
Hey with that V, you've discovered what my 1978 Hondo sounded like playing through a Peavey Bandit !🙄😆
Ive been playing a S.S. Pignose and Crate for the last 25 years.
They both sound insane.
glenn thanks for your constant energy and commitment to music dude, you make youtube a bright place for us musos, and all the best of health to you man, j in the uk
I love tube amps too but hate the costs of tubes these days. That being the case my next amp will be solid state. Tube amps have gotten to expensive to have and to expensive to keep up.
Holy crap Glenn?!! Are you legit telling me that the Laney Dualtop head has a DI out with the actual freaking option of completely bypassing the unwanted built in analog cab sim?!!
(Squints really hard at the Orange Supercrush 100)
Amazing!
Potential sleeper down tuned Metal/DooM home recording amp of win?!
Definitely seems like it!
Wowzers!
Fantastic demo BTW!
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Kudos Glen for trying the low gain settings, we even got some clean playing! But seriously I appreciate it dude, it gives us a better idea of how it breaks up, how the EQ is effected etc. I really liked the hi gain tone but I didnt like the way it seemed to have a hi frequency spike at lower gain. Great for the early Priest tone but I want something smoother at low gain.
11:52 that sweet double stop bend on a floyd rose guitar... omg so good :O
Like can you not? This is exactly the type of amp I like. But I don’t need another one. I wish they could be like Behringer where they say products just started to be shipped but aren’t available anywhere for 8 months
The main thing I noticed in this demo is how frigging good it sounds on the lead channel with the boost on. Saturation for days.
I started my guitar journey in the 1980s with solid-state amps, but when I could buy my first Tube Amp, I never looked back.
I tried them again as I grew older, and technology improved, primarily because of their lightweight feature. I had a Katana, but I only used it a few times. It was loud enough for my needs, but I sold it after a year of collecting dust in my house.
Tube amp repairs are expensive, and with the economy these days, I'm always thinking of when the technology will be good enough.
I've been watching the Laneys LF Super 60 and Quilter Aviator Cub UK.
Maybe is time to try again. The Quilter Aviator Cub UK is more my vibe, though.
I'd love to see this type of Laney Amps but based on the Old "Supergroup" design for the sound and look !
When you made the last video on the Laney pedal I bought it immediately. It’s wonderful!
Same. Been gigging with it ever since
Awesome review Glenn! These look great - however couple of features that could have been added (and would have been worth the extra $$$ for them):
1 - MIDI switchable channels/possibly even MIDI switchable boost. MIDI use is more and more common these days
2 - An option to load 3rd party IRs onto them. Yes you can run into a TwoNotes or a Mooer Radar or something similar however that is an additional piece of gear to have to bring. Also given that Laney has already released a head with TwoNotes IR loading in it, I'm surprised they didn't bother to with these (unless they were really aggressively targeting a certain price point).
I have tube amps galore - I usually end up using Ableton amp sims on recordings LOL
I know this video is a couple months old, but let’s get real about amps for a minute.
Neither tube or solid state is inherently better. Tube amps are actually typically simpler than solid state amps.
Tubes are the older technology and that tech has evolved over time.
Solid state amps were not usually given the same care and treatment.
I think this is mostly due to ignorance and bias towards “tube mojo”
I think some ss amps came very close to hitting the mark, specially Peavey, but they fell short by not using good speakers and often not desired cabinets. As Glenn has shown us, this is where the tone lives.
The only real advantage tube amps have from a design perspective is output transformers. The relationship the transformer has with the speakers can be “magic”(it’s actually just science).
Quilter amps are an example of how amazing solid state amps can be. They were designed next to favored tube amps in an attempt to recreate the response and tone.
I wish more companies would think about it in the same manner.
Hi Glen, i've watch this demo and the one of the laney loudpedal, back to back to back.. , Is it me or the loudpedal seem's to have more gain?
I prefer solid state over tube amps and my favorite was one I played way back. A Hughes & Kettner Attax 200 Stereo Chorus head (there was a combo too). 200 watts of monster power. I loved it and have recent been looking for one in top condition but seem to only find the combos or newer H&K stuff.
Totally agree Glen. Solid state amps have come so far since the 90's. I'm playing though Line 6 Catalyst 60 and it's served every purpose I have as home studio musician. I probably wouldn't gig with it (not sure, never tried) but it's been a great investment. Not to mention it has some built-in Helix goodness.
I would definitely gig with a catalyst. They are solid amps. They take a lot of the excess nonsense that the spider line is known for, out of the equation. Now, that being said. I would make sure to mic it up as it might not have enough power to keep up with venues larger than a bar. And be sure to test it out with a few different mics before committing to bringing it out to a show.
Isn't the Line 6 a modeling amp? Or am I mistaken?
I feel like this is half the reason solid state gets a bad reputation. It gets confused with digital.
I got the Ironheart pedal after watching…I think it was the Anderton’s Music review of it. And yours of course. Put a compressor on it and ran all my other effects through the effects loop. I still use my tube amps at home, but for gigging? For band practice? For recording? There is simply no going back unless I really need to. I also got rid of my extra distortion pedals because I don’t need those anymore. Nice to lighten the load.
Glad you featured these and the stomp version. I got the pedal a couple of days ago. I was also considering the Blackstar amp pedal but for less than $250 figured I should try the Laney first. And why do they kick some serious ass.
And I don't care what anybody says even a tube amp can suck. One thing really great Rock and metal tube amps gave us was the sound that became the measuring stick.
And now we know what they're supposed to sound like so as long as we can replicate it who gives a fuck where it comes from. That little laney stop pedal sounds better than most amps I've played through. And even though the katana is popular I think this lady sounds and feels way better not knocking boss I have a gt100 that sounds so much better than the katana. The Soldano model in the gt100 paired up with a tube screamer in front of it is one of the best sounding Amp tones I've ever heard. You and I are both serious Judas Priest fans so we know if we're getting that sound or not that sound or not and the Laney definitely gets right into Judas Priest territory.
I love Laney. Always have. Glassy tones with ample separation and definition even while high gain shredding. Just love it.
Wow that first tone you got out of sounds like the best crunch I've ever heard! Eat your heart out Marshall!
Laneys are underrated. Love my IRT SLS, best of both worlds! And because speakers are everyones favorite topic for good reason: I'm running it through a custom DIY 2x12 with Jensen Tornados which sounds brutal. Through my V30 cab, the IRT is a rocker like many others, through the Tornados it's a growling metal machine.
Getting real Zakk Wylde vibes from that mix. Awesome stuff!
Thanks for listening!
For those wondering, the ditty one is 300 USD while the bigger boi is 430. The little one does NOT have a DI output and of course it does NOT have a clean channel!! :)
I have been lusting after a Lion Heart but may have to give one of these a shot. I feel like Glenn is always trying to save us money and Kyle Bull is always getting us to spend money. :D
Of all the mixes i've heard from this piece, this amp definitely suits it the best
The Peavey TransTube amps released in 2011 were just awesome and the Bandit is STILL in production. The MSRP is $599.99 in the US and I just found one here in Canada for $649.99. Pretty crazy. No software. No built-in multi-effects. Just a great solid amp. I wouldn't say they're worth THAT much but they are pretty spectacular.
I got that Bandit as a practice amp. Took out the Peavey speaker and popped in a vintage 30, ran a tubescreamer with a distortion and an eq in the front, then threw chorus and reverb with another eq in the effects loop. People couldn't believe how good and crunchy it sounded.
@@teebee6689I never even thought of replacing the speaker. I found that it took pedals VERY well and all I had to do was select the correct clean preamp (it was thee 2nd or 3rd). And that thing was whisper quiet. On the clean channels you couldn't even tell that it was on. No hum, no buzz, no hiss... nothing. I'm using a 50W Katana now but I found the channels just didn't do it for me. Ended up buying a multi-preamp sim and it just goes straight to the PWR AMP IN. Cab sim off, people. Cab sim OFF. I shake my head in disbelief when I see people connect a preamp pedal to their amp's guitar input on demo videos. And these guys are supposed to be pros.
@@EsteemedRepresentative I found the stock speaker in the Bandit to be a bit lacking compared to a broken in v30. And yeah, it's a great pedal platform. I was going for a real nasty metal tone right from the start and managed to dial in a great tone with pedals. What sim are you using ? I was looking into checking one out.
@@teebee6689 I'm using the Joyo R-15 Preamp House. I love the WYSIWYG design but for more pristine emulations then the Strymon Iridium may be the way to go. Here's a really good A vs. B demo.
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@@EsteemedRepresentative They both sound pretty decent. In my opinion Joyo doesn't get enough love. I've played several of their mini lunchbox amps. You just can't beat the price/sound ratio with those. Having said that, I'm leaning towards the Strymon. I've heard a lot of good things about them so I might give it a go.
Laney's Ironheart series is absurdly good. Way better than amps at that pricepoint have any right to be.
Sounds great, but no IEC power? Seems like you should have mentioned that. Everyone has spare cables, not everyone has a spare proprietary AC power supply.
The speed holes help them to ship it faster, obviously.
I have a discontinued Laney Cub 10 tube amp among my many cheap tube amps. I have one and a half SS amps, an Orange Micro Terror with a single 12AX7 in the preamp, and an all SS Friedman BE Mini. That puppy has no clean sounds, it's basically a distortion pedal in a tiny amp cab.
That's gotta be one of the harshest sounding amps I've ever heard. Christ.
I have the original 15 irt studio, i will never get rid of that amp. Its perfect in a lot of situations
How would they do with Greenbacks?
they are solid state why the need to make the box so big ,is just a board and transformer it could fit on a 1U space
1:30 I got a ZV-E10 for Christmas and I love this camera! Even someone like me can use it for my TH-cam videos!
These two amps reminds me of the Digbeth bass amps series. They came in two sizes, bigger 500W and smaller 200W, both very good and pretty cheap amps
I'm quite amused that there's a series of amplifiers called Digbeth. They should come with a tub of Bird's Custard 🤣
Hell ya Priest sound for sure ! That brought me back Glenn.. Now I have to listen to classic Priest today! The sound I grew up with!
I said as soon as I heard how toppy those amps where, "MIX READY!!!" was the thought and boy was I right. I was waiting for the mix, and then yep, I was right... jaw dropped on how great that mix came out!
You should do a side-by-side with the tube version of the lion heart. Same guitar and signal chain, just swap out the heads.
It really does come down to the speakers. Best tone I ever got was a Guitar Research Labs 60 watt Solid State head through a pair of Sunn 2 X 10 cabinets.
The room mic really gives the tone a cool vibe
My buddy has an old Laney AOR head with a Laney 4x12, & the thing is phenomenal, & I've repeatedly told him if he ever is insane enough to want to sell it, I'd take it .... Laney have grossly been forgotten/overlooked ... they make some brilliant stuff.
If iLaney was good enough for Lord Iommi, it's good enough for the rest of us.
Im kinda thinking the pedal sounded better....am I wrong???
Laney is an amazing amp company, and kinda underrated for what they really are. When i started playing i really love the basic ss combos that they had, specially because there are all over the place here in my country. We had 2 15 watt guitar amps and 1 bass amp in my school and that's what i grew up with. 2 years ago i bought, what i consider to he my dream amp when i was 14, a Laney irt studio used for like 150 bucks without the footswitch. I love that amp, 15 watt tube power, usb and DI outputs (the headphone one is fucking trash tho) in a comfortable size (rack unit style). I use it with a DIY 1x12 cab with a eminence gb128 for recording/playing, and also i use it with some IRs via the DI out to my interface. Amazing amps for great price, maybe a hidden gem for some
Glenn screaming fuck when he messes up is all of us.
still love that you reach for sad wings of destiny riffs to test stuff, and we play guitar a lot alike, especially with the pauses for swaring lol..
I love the tone killswitch engage got on the disarm the decent record I think they used laney iron hearts on that one and switched to the Tony Iomi heads by laney very awesome tones and I love the throaty sounds they were able to get with those amps
Your guitar sound here has quite a bite in the midrange... Sounds great! I don't recall your BV25Ms having such a bitey midrange in other vids. Is it the amp or the mics? Or is it some EQ in the mix?
Glen you really need to check out the Randall RH120 rx
Love seeing that vicious guitar. Can't wait until i can finally order one. The owner Goran is a solid dude too
1:58 Average guitarists: "isn't the amp a beer holder?"
I still wish they’d bring back the AOR circuit back into production. Even if it’s in this sort of format.
The Laney is a beast to be reckoned with for sure. Love these videos Glen!
In the mix, was very appealing and with the speed of those mosfets, it kinda gives it a bit of and edgier sound.....
All in all, I like that sound and maybe one day, I might be able to grab one new or used.
Awesome review, what a tone!!! I'm seriously thinking of getting one of these!
I have seen a series of these Solid State "mini heads" ...All 30 watts, single channel....Copies of their "big brothers."....Soldano, Friedman, Diezel, Bogner.....Not sure what company makes them. Have you tried any of them yet Glenn?
amazing! And this has to be said! better than any plugin tone you ever got on this channel. This is a compliment!
Tubes have great tone glass. That is why they sound great.
I'm using a Seymour Duncan PowerStage 700 with my Fractal FM3, run it into a pair of Mesa Widebody 1x12's. Sold my Mesa Mark amps and don't really miss them. The trick is tweaking the FM3, but the PowerStage does a really good job. Oh yeah, I've previously owned a dumped a TON of money on USA guitars such as Suhr, Tom Anderson, PRS, Gibson, Ernie Ball, etc. All I own now is a few Korean Schecter. While Tom Anderson and Suhr make great guitars I'm more than satisfied with my Schecter Solo II Custom and SVSS Exotic Super Shredder.
I still have my 1983 Pro-Tube 4x12 loaded with Fanes that kills every other cabinet I've put up against it. Solid MDF too, zero tone wood.
Signal chain from mics to DAW?
Love to see that FedEx still uses speed holes. Can’t wait to see how many my guitar has when it gets here today.
Well, these sound like my solid state Randall combo from the 90s which i gave away because there's something in the gain structure i don't like.
I mean it can work quite well in a band mix and not all solid state amps have this sort of sound but saying there's generally no difference is quite a bold statement. Maybe i'm just an Engl guy, there's also lots of tube amps i don't like for a variety of subjective reasons.
I'm a dumb bass player.
Do you have any videos about different map speaker sizes (10 v 12 v 15 etc.)? Is there a big enough difference where the speaker size matters, or is this another tone wood debate? ( I know that there are different manufactures and tons of variability but I wanted to know what you think about it)
Thanks and rock on!
Great jam! guys. Not sold on that sound from Laney. Glenn, How about a bass amp review?
I would really love for you to do a comparison against the katana for this Glenn. Similar prices. It's versatility vs tone ultimately I guess.
Watching Glenn have too much fun to notice he's clipping the shit out of his meters is great.
Really loved this in the mix.
Solo was good, and a boost and effects definitely helped the alone-tone.
But the mix is where it is at N'est-ce pas?
I wonder if this thing could do 2000s style metalcore with a tube screamer type pedal in front of it. I know KSE have used Laneys, so that could probably get me somewhere.
Nice. With the gain cranked the tone got more prominent and authoritative rather than mushing out and being compressed.
My brother-in-law got me a kit guitar for Christmas. Grabbed a line 6 from the pawn shop. Assembled everything and tuned it up, But I could not get the intonation. A played it for a year and a half, then got a tiny joyo meatOR. Tried setting up the intonation and BAM everything intonated. The line 6 could not produce enough of the over tones to intonate. I thought it was free apps suck. Turns out, line 6 is less good than if I would have just unplugged and tuned my intonation acoustically 😂
We’re all -laying thoroughly solid state amps. Amp sim + monitors.
I did not like the sound. In the mix it was okay but it does not blow me away.
Hey Glenn, I have a question about live mixing. The venue I’m at recently got a drum enclosure, and the cymbal bleed into the snare and tom mics is exponentially worse than it was. I’m not sure how to deal with this. If I gate the cymbals out, I lose the sustain from the toms. Could it be mic type? And yes, I moved the cymbals up lol. They’re about as high as I can get them. Thanks! Love the vids
Cymbal bleed is natural. You don't try to remove it during a live band playing do you?
@@myopicautisticmetal9035 It’s more the fact that it’s overpowering the rest of the kit. I don’t want to completely kill it, just make it so it’s not ruining the rest of the drum sounds
This guitar sound is insane and smells soooo heavy for Screaming for Vengeance! Love it 😁