Imagine looking at the list of WDC's by last name. You see Alonso 05, Alonso 06, and Alonso 24. Would your first assumption be that they are all by the same driver, or that they are father and son? :D
@@wombat4191 probably that they are father and son like the Rosbergs. But nope its just Fernandos spanish inquisition back into the top of the leaderboards
I'm so glad that Alonso is finally getting the recognition he deserved throughout the 2010s. People mention 2012 but his best achievement is his consistent pace across nearly 15 years
I hate how people who have criticised Alonso for years talking bullshit about him being toxic and whatever and criticising him when he announced his comeback in 2019 now all are acting as if they had been Alonsos biggest supporters.
Really don't understand why people are pretending that Alonso has been underrated or overhated by the community when that hasn't been the case for the last decade or so.
He's like like a car who just keep accelerating without having a limiter. It doesn't have a top speed, just like he just keeps improving his level even beyond greatness.
There's another factual scenario that nobody is speaking yet , they say having children halves a man's power after some years and they're no longer as wild and dangerous as they were before. That is why , Hamilton was also successful . Alonso loves F1 to the core and has dedicated to being successful so much more that he doesn't have a child at the moment. PS : This doesn't mean that men with children aren't successful , it's just that men soften up with time after having children. And sports is simply ruthless, you need impeccable grit and determination , sheer focus and commitment , as Toto Wolff says either you're a winner or the 1st loser, the 2nd one doesn't matter.
In my opinion Fernando Alonso is pound for pound the best formula 1 driver of the 21st century. Here are a few reasons why 1. Defeating Michael twice in 2005 and 2006. Yes 2005 was a dud year for Ferrari and Michael but in 06 both cars were relatively the same pace wise and fernando rose to the challenge and beat him outright. 2. And this is the main reason. The fact that fernando dragged the Ferrari in 2010 which was arguably the 3rd fastest car on the grid to a title fight and most impressively dragging a dog of a car in 2012 to title fights is nothing short of Herculean. Also 2012 alonso as of right now is the best peak I’ve seen of any driver. Better than 05 raikkonen, Lewis in the Mercedes dominance, Michael in the Ferrari dominance and seb in the red bull dominance. 3. From his comeback with alpine in 2021 it was like he never left, helping Ocon to a 1st victory and grabbing a podium later that year in the 5th fastest car. Yes he may have not been a saint to a lot of teams and drivers. But name me one world class driver who wasn’t an asshole at some point in their career in order to try and bring out the absolute best in him. And I haven’t even mentioned his first season with Renault in 2003 when he took his first pole position and at the time the youngest f1 winner.
2012 Alonso is the pinnacle of F1 driver's peak performances, I still believe if that Ferrari were to be level to the Redbull, he would've smashed Vettel no doubt
People can’t see the fact Lewis seb and has been able to dominate with the car that has clear advantage. Well micheal has been able to do it with Renault as well. I think fernando is up there with micheal and senna in terms of raw speed talent and getting the best of the machinery that are given
@@davronbekibrokhimov175 In term of performance ceiling of Alonso, Ham, Max, I will put like this Ham > Alonso Why? Rookie Hamilton is prime Alonso equal. It means Ham has more untapped performance to extract than Alonso. It seems Hamilton’s performance standard is level to champions peaked
@@madjayax731 Not making any comments about whose performance ceiling is higher, that is arguable. However your arguments doesn't makes sense. Fernando's prime is not late 2000's but probably early 2010. He was probably a better driver even in his second McLaren stint compared to his championship days but it all comes down to the car. Also, his driving performance in 2007 was not his best but probably one of his worst three seasons along with 2004 and 2021 (where he needed time to fully adapt) due to Michelin-Bridgestone transition and intense team politics (which he also had his fair bit of share but still, we're talking about driving and performance ceilings)
I’d say more like Federer. Zlatan. Same age yet breaking new barriers of the modern era. Where they can produce at the highest levels only to be beaten by generational talents that could be regarded best of all time
It’s so important we remember how good Fernando is at his craft. The record books won’t be kind to him, but the people watching will always know that he’s one of best drivers to ever turn a wheel.
That final stint in Bahrain showed that, where he overtakes Hamilton and Sainz. Going all out with tyre life left. Really good work, he was pushing seriously hard too
It's been heartbreaking to see drivers like Seb and Kimi drop that rapidly in pace and consistency. I'm so happy that this hasn't happened to Fernando. We are witnessing something truly special right now 💪🏻
I think the main thing is that they were mentally checked out. Seb specially wasn't even in the best shape towards the last few seasons. What makes Alonso different is 1. big, BIG brain 2. Unmatched determination and hunger. You can say what you will about Alonso, but never that he is 'going through the motions'.
Man, the race craft Alonso showed during first race of 2023 with the overtakes was absolutely amazing, professional and enormously enjoyable to watch. The spark is still there.
Fernando is one of the greatest drivers we've ever seen. Nando, Lewis and Max are a once in a generation talents. I'm glad he finally has a good car again.
The reason Alonso seems timeless with his talent is that in the 2015 preseason testing at Barcelona when he apparently was electrocuted, it was actually the movement when his talent became preserved. It's kind of like cryogenic freezing.
@@yellow_x522 nah its cause when he got electricuted allegetly he woke up in the hospital and thought he was his younger go karting self or whatever, so i gues what he is saying is that fernando's clock / perception of his own age is like 20+ years behind and therefore he drives like a 20yr old... 💀
Another genuinely impressive thing about alonso is how even though he has been in all these different teams with all these different levels of performance, he always looks like he is extracting the absolute most out there cars no matter.
I feel if he wins another title by 2025, he would’ve fulfilled his desire of racing in Formula 1. He was an absolute beast in 2012, that was the work of a pure genius. Hope he wins his long awaited title soon. Man he deserves at least one more title.
I don’t think his desire would ever be filled, and whilst that’s great to see it’s also not. Aston Martin could drop later in the season as development goes on. And there’s no guarantee he can stay there. He’ll want more and more if he gets the third title, and I don’t think there’s anywhere else on the grid for him to get that
@@Achilles053 aston martin out of any team, should have the best in season development. they are in such an advantageous position this year because of their constructor finishing last year. couple that with their newly recruited members from both mercedes and redbull, daddy stroll's money, an already good car capable of podiums, additional wind tunnel time, there is no reason to believe that AM cannot win a race. as for his stay at AM, im pretty sure as long as he performs well, he gets to stay. i mean, there is no other way to put it. fernando in some eyes, may be seen as blocking younger talent but fernando is still outperforming that younger talent so... why shouldn't he get to stay?
@@no1washerezz I didn’t say Alonso would ever leave Aston, in fact I think this is the last team of his career. But Aston Martin aren’t closing the gap to RedBull, and Ferrari and Mercedes also have money and facilities. It’s all well and good talking about Stroll’s money, but it suggests that it outshines every other team. There’s a budget cap, and Mercedes and Ferrari have the best facilities out there. Winning a race? Probably. A 3rd title? His only change is 25,26. Like Red Bull caught up to Merc towards 22 (end of old regs) it’ll be a similar thing with everyone else. Aston Martin will also get LESS wind tunnel time providing they finish P2 in constructors.
@@Achilles053 actually, AM have a recently opened the new factory in silverstone. state of the art, newest facility on the grid by far with a new wind tunnel. their team members consist of members from the top teams, they have dan fallows, there is really no reason to believe why they couldnt be up at the top. they have the resources to do so. i pointed out stroll's money because it completely negates the possibility that AM is at a funding disadvantage compared to mercedes or RB under the cost cap
It’s not like he stopped racing after his retirement in 2018, that man still won Lemans, WEC, and for godsake even fancied in Dakar rally. That man is a racing genius.
He’s my GOAT for a reason. Being a relatively new fan, i often say when talking about drivers like Seb and Kimi, “If I only i could watch live, what he did in the past”. With Alonso, i don’t need to because he’s still driving in 2023, as good a level as he did in 2003 (from everything i’ve watched). I cannot wait for win no. 33 and potentially title no. 3 and i know it’s gonna happen as long as he has the machinery to do so, because with Alonso, the 40s are the new 30s. 😊
@@EntropicExergy a win for sure is gonna be on the table, aston only need one of those tracks that suit them perfectly, just like max said in the post inverview after the race in bahrain, max was stealing 2-3 races a year before he had the 2021 car, because there just were those tracks that suited redbull perfectly and a couple unfortunate things happened upfront and max was taking the opportunities, and that s exactly what he said about fernando, it will happen
If astons car continues as like they had at opening race, I am convinced Alonso will have few wins, not just one. Ferraris will make mistakes or break down at least 5 times this season, mercedes is pretty much still nowhere and they need to catch up with aston and ferrari, and red bull will have at least one or two bad races where alonso will pick up all the crums he can find.
His campaign in 2012 sealed it for me. He managed to raise Ferrari up from effectively 4th to a title-challenging outfit. On his day, he can work wonders...but if he's angry then you know about it...
@@0megalul309 3rd fastest but i believe he is talking about 2nd best race car in race conditions, which it was definitely looking as such in the second half. very good on tire management, and was extremely reliable. they more often than not were closer to the top 2 in race conditions. kinda reminds me of the current AM era where the car is just not good in qualifying, but comes alive during the race and can compete with the top midfield/front running cars.
I know it's a massive claim, but Alonso really does have that Jim Clark quality. Someone who can drive anything, be quick, and only get better with age. He makes me wonder what Jim Clark would've gone on to achieve had he lived.
At this rate it looks like he'll only retire once he approaches 50. The fact that Alonso spent years and years in the sport with cars that can be so off the pace to the frontrunners and where he'd be lucky to even get a podium, and yet still have the drive to give it another shot one after the other despite the setbacks he's faced is the very definition of tenacity. No doubt once he retires he'll probably be celebrated just as much as Vettel not only because of wins but also how long he's been able to keep up with how the sport changed over the years.
Lovely video. Been an Alonso fan since Montoya left. I've always admired his raw talent and passion, the guy feels unbreakable. Also with his neverending prime, Alonso brought back the idea of a complete race car driver. The man hunted Indy 500, Daytona, Le mans, WEC, even Dakar. Drivers are now even more restricted to just F1, so to see a driver attempt at everything that goes fast and succeed at almost every one is just astonishing. Shame that history hasn't been fair to him, but we racing lovers will remember him as not only one of the goats of F1, but also of the entire racing discipline. Love him or hate him, his speed and commitment is undeniable. He made history when young, and is making history now, 20 years later. A truly inspirational man.
This is another reason why I love Montoya. He's also a complete racer. F3000 title, CART Title, Monaco GP win, Indy 500 wins, Daytona 24 Wins, IMSA Prototype Champion.................I finally got to see him win in-person at Mid Ohio 2019, and I had goosebumps when I saw him and Helio at the autograph table. Too bad his stint in F1 and Indycars were relatively short. He seems to bounce from one thing to the next every few years and he seems to make a lot of on-track mistakes unfortunately. But I'm excited to see what else he does and I really want to see Nando up on the podium this year. It's a great Dark Horse story arc, reminds me of Kimi at Lotus fighting for podiums in 2012-2013. Those were VERY fun times to watch!
The key factor that differentiates Fernando from the rest is his mentality. Not only his motivation, but he is able to stay relaxed (but focused) in situations where anybody else would be a bundle of nerves. And it seems like his mind has become stronger with age and experience.
Fernando is the only driver you could send to any era of Formula 1 and be just as competitive as the best of their day. He embodies the best qualities of all the GOATs that came before him. IMO he’s the best to ever do it and we’re all so lucky to get to see Lewis, Max and Alonso scrap on the same track today.
Don't know if we will actually see him win the third championship, but this man just makes me wonder. He is simply a pure racer, and it just makes me admire him so much
It's funny because this season reminds me of the good old Ferrari days, Red Bull on top and Fernando doing Fernando things with the 2nd-4th fastest car on the grid.
Fernando in the right car can compete just as equal but what makes fernando so special is his time as a driver. Experience you can only gain over time. A true goat
I have been following Fernando since 2003, he's for sure one of the best F1 drivers the sport has ever seen. Said that, this new generation of drivers are the most prepared in history. The access to simulators, driving academies, regulated subcategories, etc. are producing authentic monsters like Verstappen, Leclerc, Russell or Norris. The fact that Alonso can still be compared to the top drivers of this generation is an incredible feat on itself.
Alonso is like a certain battery that just keeps going and going and going. He wants a third title just like Lewis want's his eighth title. He will keep trying year after year until finally he gets the title or his batteries run out of power.
I think a big part of it could be that he never had kids. It must be really draining to start or maintain any sort of home life with an active F1 career so that extra focus is probably helping him to continue racing for so long. And I'm not saying having kids is a bad thing but I think Alonso is just one of those people that are so all in on their professional life to a degree most can't sustain and really feel fulfilled from.
Don't forget Alonso winning 24 hours of Le Mans (twice with Toyota in the hypercar class) and his close attempt to winning the Indy500 (cause by engine failure). If he wins Indy500 he will be crowned the Triple Crown of Motorsport. One of the few drivers to win and attempt different Motorsport which requires intense focus, discipline, and abilities. In my books he is one of the best modern drivers.
if AM hits the jackpot with the car designing, i can see fernndo retiring close to 50. dude breaths and lives for speed, and having a car that matches that ambition is perfect
With modern day medicine, he can easily perform on the highest level for several more years. And still, he said after he is done with F1, he will go and concur other racing competitions. I'd love to see him racing in LeMans up to 60 years old, like other drivers do.
No sé si será en F1, pero estemos seguros que lo veremos competir hasta esa edad. Los sponsors se lo rifarán para ir a Nascar u otras competiciones. Él solo mueve millones.
I remember last season when i was watching an F1 race, my father asked me if "that Alonso" was Fernando's son, because he saw both Schumacher and Verstappen, the sons of former drivers. I calmly said no, that's the same Alonso as 10 years ago.
To be honest I can clearly imagine Fernando Racing in the 2030 season for real. Knowing everything I known about the Aston Martin project dans where they already are. I don't see how they can be away from at least podium places until the new regulations. And for sure he will test the 2026 regs. And I just love to see that. Having discovered the sport in 2005 Hen I was a young boy, I was already supporting him. And I think his prime strated around 2010-2012 but for me, he is still in it. I haven't seen anything that would indicate the opposite.
my concern for losing his need will be if aston amrtin are unable to keep up with upgrades, or deliver a poor car next season. He has struggled with poor cars for a while and been able to keep up his determination through it, but i think that now he has a greatd car again, if he loses it then that may cause him to no longer feel the same desire for F1. Its giving hope and then snatching it away. I hope aston martin are able to stay in the top dogs as we have needed a new name for a while and it will hopefully renew the idea that a new team can make it to the top (i know they arent exactly a new team but a new name at the very least) will encourage newcomers like audi and be another pushing force for the current midfield and backmarkers.
@@krispyk.1786 Even with massive external money coming in, there engineers have to be perfect against the likes of redbull, there's a good chance they will keep up and stay at the same pace but overtaking them will be very tricky. They do have far more wind tunnel time though which can help greatly.
@@batsiraimatinenga9256 hey man people improve, who knows maybe he can beat him again, i mean he defended hamilton for 10 laps in an alpine, so who knows? : /
No. He wouldn't. Alonso would leave teams that have too much internal rivalries. No way he consistently beats Hamilton or Vettel as teammates. would complain about favouritism as he did with Ocon and Hamilton.
@@batsiraimatinenga9256 If Nando and Lewis were in a Mercedes, the 7 driver championships, would be 3-4 or 4-3. Lewis would either have 5 or 4 WDCs, while Nando 6 or 5. Nico who was a brilliant, championship material racer, won one on Lewis. I would expect Nando in a Mercedes, to at least 2.
2:42 There's genuinely something magical about Monaco. Seeing F1 cars from the 50's going around Loews corner at Monaco, still identifiable today, that's the kind of thing you have to love about the sport. To still be racing essentially the same street track 70 years later is amazing. And yeah, you had to be wealthy back then to be racing, but more importantly you had to be brave. Anybody who has watched GP: The Killer Years, which everybody should, will immediately understand how dangerous racing in F1 truly was.
I became a fan of Alonso back in 2001, simply because he drove for Minardi, which was my favourite team back then. It's unbelievable that 22 years later he is still in F1, the podium and even fighting for pole position.
proper rest is just as important as working your ass off to be in that position. but the motivation was always alonso's biggest strength. it's inspiring to say the least
Fernando Alonso does not need any recognition, he's a legend of the sport and everybody knows that, even morons. There are things that are not measured by the number of championships achieved in a career.
Alonso Doing Alonso Stuff. 20 years in , As killer as Ever. What a Boss.🔥😎🇪🇦 I had every reason to hate Alonso because I was a Fan of Schumi as a Kid , supported Lewis in 2008-09 & Seb in Redbull. The only racer I genuinely feared as an opposing fan was Alonso which turned into immense respect later. He's the greatest Racer of the 21st Century IMO. Race starts, Awareness & IQ, Attack, Defense , overtakes, getting Extraordinary results in Sub-par Cars, tyre management, Race craft etc. Michael Stella who worked with Schumacher, Kimi & Alonso at Ferrari said the best point about Alonso is he doesn't have weaknesses and is very strong Mentally to which I agree . After 10+ years he has a Competitive enough car and I was so happy to see him so happy after the race. 😁 I'll put Michael in 20th Century bracket bcs he won his first WDC's in 90's. In 20th century , the GOAT conversation is between Fangio, Clarke, Senna, Schumacher & Prost (highly underrated).
I've always loved watching Fernando race. His style and speed have always been up there, and I'm looking forward to seeing him in a competitive car again this year! 🥳
Fernando Alonso right now is his best moment of his career. He was always great since the beginning, but through the years he was improving even more; and now he's at his best. The best of the world, and of the 21st century.
I think his career story is what makes him so motivated. I think he has been behind that 3rd and more championships for so long and has had it almost there a few times, that that's what fuels him. He might have had retired if he went on to win 6 times during the 00s, but he has had it so close so many times that he needs to scratch the itch.
I'm not an Alonso fan, I never was. But he is really an impressive driver and character. He doesn't give up, and doesn't seem to lose his drive for success, and that makes him a great driver. And when it's about fighting on track, he still fights like a 20 year old. I hope he gets at least a race win and can mix up the ranks of the top team like it seems the Aston Martin car is able to. Lewis could do the same. Because we don't see time flying but he turned 38 recently. He is already among the 10 oldest drivers to have raced in F1 in the last 20 years. And I feel like he still has his motivation. Had he won his 8th title in 2021, I think he would have lost some motivation, even if just unconsciously. But no, he looks determined to fight for title n°8 and ready to do what's needed to achieve it. I'm not entirely sure about his pace. Is he as fast as he was still in 2021? Given the fact that the Mercedes doesn't look great, it's hard to say. But he's still able to beat Russell, so I'd say that yes, he still has great pace. With Mercedes struggling and probably unable to fight for the title this year and very likely the next, that pushes things to 2025 when he'll be 40 years old. He too could become a senior top driver. Imagine being in 2025 with Alonso in the Aston at 44 and Hamilton in the Mercedes at 40, both still fighting for racewins and the championship ! That would be insane.
Ham 38 isn't old for Motorsport racing drivers/riders. If you look onto others Motorsport categories you will find Loeb, Peterhansel, Loeb, Peterhansel, Sainz Sr., Scot Dixon, Ogier, Ekstrom, and Will Power, Bautists are still freaking fast in their respective Motorsport racing categories. These drivers are about to enter and even already at their 40ish. Why can some drivers/riders keep pacing up with any teammates throw to him and some others not later in their racing careers/comeback years? This below are worth considering: 1. Simply, drivers/riders would get to their peak (max-out) in 3-5 years. Let's say if the GOAT drivers/riders exist in any categories of Motorsport. The standard performance scoring benchmark of them are 100% - contributed by skill, technique, speed, and adaptability. The closer a driver/rider peaked level to the GOAT, the longer his/her competitiveness longevity. the higher your peak, the longer your competitiveness. If your performance ceiling somewhere further down from the GOAT driver/rider standard, you have a higher chance to get paired with drivers/riders having higher performance ceiling than you in years to come. The lower a driver performance ceiling, the higher his/her chance to get beaten by his /her talented teammates later in the future. A slight drop pace from your peaked could be enough for your lower rank teammates at their peaked to beat you. 2. Teammate pairing in career length. Why? If you are a top tier driver/rider paired with another top tier one as teammate, this condition will always keep you and your teammate always at the sharp end. Your teammate would keep pushing you. You can’t rest on your laurels. This kind of competition would set you and your teammate into new high benchmark. Meanwhile, if you are a top tier driver/rider paired with a mediocre teammate, you are fighting with yourself. The benchmark for you is “as long as you keep beating and dominating your mediocre teammate and beating all teams is good”. It is enough for you. You never know if you are operating in your highest level or not in doing so. You don't know if in fact it your team - car performance beating them rather than you are the most outstanding driver/rider compared other drivers/riders in different team. You don't know if the others top drivers/riders driving/riding slower cars/bikes than you already set new high because they keep beating and beating each other as teammate. 3. Adaptability/Operating Window. Narrowed operating windows drivers/riders will be exposed once they have a setup liking problem. The great Rossi and Danny Ric and are Motorsport racers who recently failed to unlearn what they used to drive or ride before. It caused them failed to adapt to difference setup liking.
Here's the thing, Alonso has passion. Passion alone will overcome almost everything. That is why this man is still here whipping these young guys. Passion is the formula!
@@SaintNyx I love and agree with everything you wrote and thanks for the insight. I love Fernando, I followed his career since he moved to Renault. I loved watching him dethrone my other favourite driver at the time, Michael Schumacher. These were some of my favourite times in F1. Even today, me heart is with him because of his passion to take another championship and also, I find the other drivers a bit boring sometimes because they don't show as much emotion as he does. I am really wishing him a great season and I hope there is another championship for him in the future. Nice name, btw.
The difference is performance ceiling. Let's say if the GOAT F1 driver standard performance scoring benchmark is 100% contributed by skill, technique, speed, and adaptability. The closer the former champion peaked level to the GOAT, the longer his/her top-level competitiveness longevity. If the former champion performance ceiling somewhere further down from the GOAT driver standard, he has a higher chance to get paired with drivers having higher performance ceiling than himself in years to come. If he doesn’t survive the challenge, he will get exposed. Vettel, Kimi, and Schumacher crumbled later in their careers are the case proof. In fact, F1 competitiveness level is dynamic. It changes from year to year. Not just from entire grid perspective, but also teammate pairing competitiveness. Drivers come and go to F1 would change the dynamic of competition and the depth of talent pool in F1 change each year through generations. Sometimes today's F1 drivers’ generations have better talents than drivers coming from GP2/F2. It means today's F1 drivers/champions will survive from the challenge given by new generations. On the other way around, Sometimes, today's F1 drivers’ generations have lesser talent than drivers coming from GP2/F2. The champions from this generations will not survive the challenge from new generations. Their top-level competitiveness longevity will come short.
longevity is the only thing that a team cant really influence, like obviously they can but a drivers mental is the main thing with that, so being so competitive after so long is definitely something impressive and worthy of celebration
One of the most outstanding skills Alonso has is the ability to adapt and outperform the car to the highest level. He also mentioned that the reason he never intended to have children is because of his love to motor racing. He is by far one of my idols since I fell i love to motorsports.
I started to watch F1 during the Hungarian GP 2021 (Race), i was bored and i saw at television this car starting alone on the grid (Lewis Hamilton) so i found it strange and i watched it and loved it. Right after i started to try to know a bit more about F1 and the days after i started to like it more. So i really learned everyting about this sport and even about F1 engineering (as i am an Engineer). So i arrived and learned about this sport with 0 bias. At times people were saying Alonso was a bit finished but the more i learned about F1 the more i was impressed by Fernando Alonso, i really saw that this guy was something special as i was watching the races from the past. When the 2022 season started i realized who this guy really was and i consider him as the best driver of this generation. I am not someone that hate on people i really dont care about the drivers because i think loving a driver tend to mislead your judgement, for example i wanted Hamilton to win his 8th title and i believe that Alonso is very jealous of him while thinking that Alonso was and is still the best driver of the two. In conclusion i wanted to say that for me (a new fan with 0 bias) fernando is the best driver we had for a long time and i can't do the comparision with Schumacher because i havent watched all of his races at his prime but Fernando is for me the best driver since at least Schumacher.
Alonso has always been the best. Results just haven't come his way to highlight his immense skills and talent. Drives fair too unlike many others labeled "the goat".
3:18 That point is slightly misleading. Ayrton Senna was supposedly the 'first modern F1 driver' because of the countless hours he spent on perfecting the details of the car with his engineers. Some may even go back and say Nikki Lauda was because he was of the same mould. Alain Prost was also of that pedigree as was Nigel Mansell. While I'd say 'Modern F1' really begins in the 1980s, (mid-to-late 1980s) I would say that the "modern F1 drivers' are a new breed, because they are younger than ever, starting earlier than ever, and far more automated than ever. Alonso is more of a hybrid of two eras.
It’s simple alonso is the only all time great that feels he hasn’t achieved what he deserved if vettel or Hamilton felt the Same way they would be in f1 till their 40s which I don’t see happening
I think a big factor in his performance these days is his willingness to teach younger generations. He has still fairly recently started his own managment company, his young talents are doing very well for themselves, he is teaching them directly and also by extension setting an example for them with his own driving. We all have heard the phrase "do your talking on the track", seems to me personally Fernando is also applying this mantra to his teaching method ie "doing his teaching on the track".I am sure this adds to his motivation. 🙂
I think Prost and Mansell were like Alonso in that they were still performing at a very high level at a reletively late age. Mansell won his F1 championship at 39, and then the next year, Indycar at age 40, and Prost that year got his fourth title at age 38. Prost retired after that but easily could have kept going and fighting for titles into his early 40's, and Mansell continued to be a very strong driver into his 40's as well. Unlike Schumi and Kimi, Prost, Mansell and Alonso kept the motivation and aged better. As for when Alonso will stop, if he doesn't get a title-competitive car in the next couple years, I think he'll be satisfied with at least one more win. I think the motivation will at the very least stay until that point.
The difference is performance ceiling. Let's say if the GOAT F1 driver standard performance scoring benchmark is 100% contributed by skill, technique, speed, and adaptability. The closer the former champion peaked level to the GOAT, the longer his/her top-level competitiveness longevity. If the former champion performance ceiling somewhere further down from the GOAT driver standard, he has a higher chance to get paired with drivers having higher performance ceiling than himself in years to come. If he doesn’t survive the challenge, he will get exposed. Vettel, Kimi, and Schumacher crumbled later in their careers are the case proof. In fact, F1 competitiveness level is dynamic. It changes from year to year. Not just from entire grid perspective, but also teammate pairing competitiveness. Drivers come and go to F1 would change the dynamic of competition and the depth of talent pool in F1 change each year through generations. Sometimes today's F1 drivers’ generations have better talents than drivers coming from GP2/F2. It means today's F1 drivers/champions will survive from the challenge given by new generations. On the other way around, Sometimes, today's F1 drivers’ generations have lesser talent than drivers coming from GP2/F2. The champions from this generations will not survive the challenge from new generations. Their top-level competitiveness longevity will come short.
not really a benchmark. as you know, prost and mansell definitely had some competitive cars throughout their entire careers and haven't spent that long in f1. fernando has dealt with disgusting mclaren hondas for 4 years consecutively. at that point in 2018, he has spent like what? 16 seasons? and then deals with those slow hunks of crap for 4 years? that is motivation destruction. what type of driver could you rip apart like that and still have the motivation to continue?
f1 was nowhere near as physical as it was back then and skill gaps between drivers were huge. i mean, if you had balls and balls alone, you could probably beat half the grid already.
@@no1washerezz The early years of F1 were almost a continuation of pre-war Grand Prix racing, with most of the Drivers also being either Veterans of the 1930s or wealthy Gentlemen Drivers. There were massive gaps between cars too. 1950 and 51 were completely dominated by Alfa with only Ferrari catching up towards the middle of 51. Once Alfa left only Ferrari had a competitive F1 car so in order to keep the series alive 52 and 53 had to be run under F2 regs
Fantastic video keep it up you're doing amazing job and As Kimi fanboy growing up he and others stopped the iceman from winning more but Fernando is top 5 in my opinion in rew pace mayde higher
Alonso still seems to be able to make lightning-fast tactical decisions to pull off passes, also seen in his ability to avoid contact (apart from tyre kisses), particularly during 1st-lap melees, and hence has very few offs and crashes. Overall, he rarely makes mistakes (Raikonnen was similar) - I can't remember the last time I saw him make one. I'd guess the fact that he almost never has expensive crashes has been much appreciated by all the teams he's driven for.
Back when Fernando started beating Schumi in the Renault I was like, "Who does this guy thnk he is?" Even though I confessed at the time it started to get boring watching Schumi/Ferrari win all the time. But he IS a helluva driver and he still seems as focused as ever. He's had a run of poor cars over the years, and probably got passed over because of his age in the last decade or so. And that last part is exactly why I'd love to see him get one more in the bag. It may be a huge ask, but it appears his car is the oly one in the field that has a shot at it. So let's see how close he can get. :) It would be a fairy tale of sorts, but it would be HUGE in the F1 history books.
fernando is the most consistant driver of all time, thats why i believe he is the goat. he doesnt have the most wins and or titles but he shows that if you give him the car he will win (and or get two podiums consequtively in the firszts 2 races of the season)
6:45 In fact, Fernando Alonso is in his absolute prime. He was improving his driving skills (even more that he had in the beginning, which was huge already) after all the years he spent in F1, WEC, Indy Car, Daytona, Dakar... and now he is at his best. 10:20 Not only one of the absolute best drivers on the grid, but the best driver in the entire world. ¡Vamos, Fernando! Gana la 33 primero y luego a por el tercer mundial de F1 💪 💪 .
Alonso's career is his prime. Him winning the 3rd title would be one of the most incredible determination stories in sports history
I don’t think AMR are quite ready to win and Alonso will need a stronger teammate to beat Max/Perez
2024/2025 maybe. This year is probably for redbull/ferrari
Imagine looking at the list of WDC's by last name. You see Alonso 05, Alonso 06, and Alonso 24. Would your first assumption be that they are all by the same driver, or that they are father and son? :D
@@wombat4191 probably that they are father and son like the Rosbergs. But nope its just Fernandos spanish inquisition back into the top of the leaderboards
@@Enzoblueblood don't underestimate Aston Martin. They got plenty wind tunnel sessions and red bull is limited.
I'm so glad that Alonso is finally getting the recognition he deserved throughout the 2010s. People mention 2012 but his best achievement is his consistent pace across nearly 15 years
I hate how people who have criticised Alonso for years talking bullshit about him being toxic and whatever and criticising him when he announced his comeback in 2019 now all are acting as if they had been Alonsos biggest supporters.
As a newbie fan who started in 2016, I'm so glad Alonso came back & showed what he's made of. Made me love F1 all over again ❤
@NavF1 I literally saw you in every Alonso video mate!
Really don't understand why people are pretending that Alonso has been underrated or overhated by the community when that hasn't been the case for the last decade or so.
@@BarelyA1iveI'm on every F1 video tbh 💀 just even more so in Alonso vids
Alonso doesn't age, he just levels up
That number? No that’s not his age, that’s the number of title rivals who’ve retired while he keeps going
hes at boss level at 42. epic driver.
He's like like a car who just keep accelerating without having a limiter. It doesn't have a top speed, just like he just keeps improving his level even beyond greatness.
He doesn't learn, his cars do
There's another factual scenario that nobody is speaking yet , they say having children halves a man's power after some years and they're no longer as wild and dangerous as they were before.
That is why , Hamilton was also successful .
Alonso loves F1 to the core and has dedicated to being successful so much more that he doesn't have a child at the moment.
PS : This doesn't mean that men with children aren't successful , it's just that men soften up with time after having children. And sports is simply ruthless, you need impeccable grit and determination , sheer focus and commitment , as Toto Wolff says either you're a winner or the 1st loser, the 2nd one doesn't matter.
In my opinion Fernando Alonso is pound for pound the best formula 1 driver of the 21st century. Here are a few reasons why
1. Defeating Michael twice in 2005 and 2006. Yes 2005 was a dud year for Ferrari and Michael but in 06 both cars were relatively the same pace wise and fernando rose to the challenge and beat him outright.
2. And this is the main reason. The fact that fernando dragged the Ferrari in 2010 which was arguably the 3rd fastest car on the grid to a title fight and most impressively dragging a dog of a car in 2012 to title fights is nothing short of Herculean. Also 2012 alonso as of right now is the best peak I’ve seen of any driver. Better than 05 raikkonen, Lewis in the Mercedes dominance, Michael in the Ferrari dominance and seb in the red bull dominance.
3. From his comeback with alpine in 2021 it was like he never left, helping Ocon to a 1st victory and grabbing a podium later that year in the 5th fastest car.
Yes he may have not been a saint to a lot of teams and drivers. But name me one world class driver who wasn’t an asshole at some point in their career in order to try and bring out the absolute best in him. And I haven’t even mentioned his first season with Renault in 2003 when he took his first pole position and at the time the youngest f1 winner.
2012 Alonso is the pinnacle of F1 driver's peak performances, I still believe if that Ferrari were to be level to the Redbull, he would've smashed Vettel no doubt
People can’t see the fact Lewis seb and has been able to dominate with the car that has clear advantage. Well micheal has been able to do it with Renault as well. I think fernando is up there with micheal and senna in terms of raw speed talent and getting the best of the machinery that are given
I hope he will win another championship and eventually the triple crown! That would cement him as the best racing driver currently alive.
@@davronbekibrokhimov175 In term of performance ceiling of Alonso, Ham, Max, I will put like this Ham > Alonso Why?
Rookie Hamilton is prime Alonso equal. It means Ham has more untapped performance to extract than Alonso. It seems Hamilton’s performance standard is level to champions peaked
@@madjayax731 Not making any comments about whose performance ceiling is higher, that is arguable. However your arguments doesn't makes sense. Fernando's prime is not late 2000's but probably early 2010. He was probably a better driver even in his second McLaren stint compared to his championship days but it all comes down to the car. Also, his driving performance in 2007 was not his best but probably one of his worst three seasons along with 2004 and 2021 (where he needed time to fully adapt) due to Michelin-Bridgestone transition and intense team politics (which he also had his fair bit of share but still, we're talking about driving and performance ceilings)
His determination is unbelievable, he is like the Nadal of F1. Super emotional, utterly determined, speaks out his mind and above all utter consistent
I’d say more like Federer. Zlatan. Same age yet breaking new barriers of the modern era. Where they can produce at the highest levels only to be beaten by generational talents that could be regarded best of all time
Alonso wasn't beaten by Ocon. Alonso was beaten by his car's reliability. When they both finish the GP, the race pace difference was outstanding.
It’s so important we remember how good Fernando is at his craft. The record books won’t be kind to him, but the people watching will always know that he’s one of best drivers to ever turn a wheel.
That final stint in Bahrain showed that, where he overtakes Hamilton and Sainz. Going all out with tyre life left. Really good work, he was pushing seriously hard too
Yes, far superior to Schumi or Hammy
Imo he is THE best driver
@@harshitagarwal2188 Nah, clearly Fangio
@@peterhaslund im talking about modern f1 drivers since the 90s
It's been heartbreaking to see drivers like Seb and Kimi drop that rapidly in pace and consistency. I'm so happy that this hasn't happened to Fernando. We are witnessing something truly special right now 💪🏻
i wonder if having a family distracts a racing driver
I think the main thing is that they were mentally checked out. Seb specially wasn't even in the best shape towards the last few seasons. What makes Alonso different is 1. big, BIG brain 2. Unmatched determination and hunger. You can say what you will about Alonso, but never that he is 'going through the motions'.
They both didn’t seem to have the same drive that Alonso has now
they both had kids, Alonso doesn't
Sorry but this just didn’t happen to seb, all you need to look at is the 2022 US GP
Man, the race craft Alonso showed during first race of 2023 with the overtakes was absolutely amazing, professional and enormously enjoyable to watch. The spark is still there.
Fernando is one of the greatest drivers we've ever seen. Nando, Lewis and Max are a once in a generation talents. I'm glad he finally has a good car again.
Yeah and the generation Fernando represents is from 20 years ago! Absolutely crazy
Lando? Wtf has he done ? Ahhh nothing
Lewis is arguably as talented of not not more than Alonso, you cannot convince me otherwise
@@Chris-sf2cp Nando… not Lando
@@davidlinder0987 who the fuck is that ?
The reason Alonso seems timeless with his talent is that in the 2015 preseason testing at Barcelona when he apparently was electrocuted, it was actually the movement when his talent became preserved. It's kind of like cryogenic freezing.
bro what
@@zer0751 I think he's saying the electric shock gave him immortality or something 🤷♀
XD makes sense
Was gonna make this comment lol
@@yellow_x522 nah its cause when he got electricuted allegetly he woke up in the hospital and thought he was his younger go karting self or whatever, so i gues what he is saying is that fernando's clock / perception of his own age is like 20+ years behind and therefore he drives like a 20yr old... 💀
Another genuinely impressive thing about alonso is how even though he has been in all these different teams with all these different levels of performance, he always looks like he is extracting the absolute most out there cars no matter.
I feel if he wins another title by 2025, he would’ve fulfilled his desire of racing in Formula 1. He was an absolute beast in 2012, that was the work of a pure genius. Hope he wins his long awaited title soon. Man he deserves at least one more title.
I don’t think his desire would ever be filled, and whilst that’s great to see it’s also not. Aston Martin could drop later in the season as development goes on. And there’s no guarantee he can stay there. He’ll want more and more if he gets the third title, and I don’t think there’s anywhere else on the grid for him to get that
yes, he deserves it
@@Achilles053 aston martin out of any team, should have the best in season development. they are in such an advantageous position this year because of their constructor finishing last year. couple that with their newly recruited members from both mercedes and redbull, daddy stroll's money, an already good car capable of podiums, additional wind tunnel time, there is no reason to believe that AM cannot win a race.
as for his stay at AM, im pretty sure as long as he performs well, he gets to stay. i mean, there is no other way to put it. fernando in some eyes, may be seen as blocking younger talent but fernando is still outperforming that younger talent so... why shouldn't he get to stay?
@@no1washerezz I didn’t say Alonso would ever leave Aston, in fact I think this is the last team of his career.
But Aston Martin aren’t closing the gap to RedBull, and Ferrari and Mercedes also have money and facilities. It’s all well and good talking about Stroll’s money, but it suggests that it outshines every other team. There’s a budget cap, and Mercedes and Ferrari have the best facilities out there.
Winning a race? Probably. A 3rd title? His only change is 25,26. Like Red Bull caught up to Merc towards 22 (end of old regs) it’ll be a similar thing with everyone else.
Aston Martin will also get LESS wind tunnel time providing they finish P2 in constructors.
@@Achilles053 actually, AM have a recently opened the new factory in silverstone. state of the art, newest facility on the grid by far with a new wind tunnel.
their team members consist of members from the top teams, they have dan fallows, there is really no reason to believe why they couldnt be up at the top. they have the resources to do so. i pointed out stroll's money because it completely negates the possibility that AM is at a funding disadvantage compared to mercedes or RB under the cost cap
It’s not like he stopped racing after his retirement in 2018, that man still won Lemans, WEC, and for godsake even fancied in Dakar rally.
That man is a racing genius.
That dude’s a racing machine. I admire him so much as a driver.
And a person! So motivational!
He’s my GOAT for a reason. Being a relatively new fan, i often say when talking about drivers like Seb and Kimi, “If I only i could watch live, what he did in the past”. With Alonso, i don’t need to because he’s still driving in 2023, as good a level as he did in 2003 (from everything i’ve watched). I cannot wait for win no. 33 and potentially title no. 3 and i know it’s gonna happen as long as he has the machinery to do so, because with Alonso, the 40s are the new 30s. 😊
RB and Max won't allow it.
@@EntropicExergy a win for sure is gonna be on the table, aston only need one of those tracks that suit them perfectly, just like max said in the post inverview after the race in bahrain, max was stealing 2-3 races a year before he had the 2021 car, because there just were those tracks that suited redbull perfectly and a couple unfortunate things happened upfront and max was taking the opportunities, and that s exactly what he said about fernando, it will happen
@@cristianosabian6720 That's not going to win you a title though, which is what you were talking about. That's what i meant they won't allow.
If astons car continues as like they had at opening race, I am convinced Alonso will have few wins, not just one.
Ferraris will make mistakes or break down at least 5 times this season, mercedes is pretty much still nowhere and they need to catch up with aston and ferrari,
and red bull will have at least one or two bad races where alonso will pick up all the crums he can find.
One important correction - the 40s are the new 20s :)
His campaign in 2012 sealed it for me. He managed to raise Ferrari up from effectively 4th to a title-challenging outfit. On his day, he can work wonders...but if he's angry then you know about it...
I don't know about 4th. Even Alonso admitted that the Ferrari was the 2nd best race car. And he usually likes to downplay the performance of his cars.
Imagine if lewis did that with the w13
@@AM-bn2qv the number crunching always proved the Ferrari to be 3/4th fastest on the grid after the McLaren and RB
4th lmao 🤣😂 Alonso fans are next level
@@0megalul309 3rd fastest but i believe he is talking about 2nd best race car in race conditions, which it was definitely looking as such in the second half. very good on tire management, and was extremely reliable. they more often than not were closer to the top 2 in race conditions. kinda reminds me of the current AM era where the car is just not good in qualifying, but comes alive during the race and can compete with the top midfield/front running cars.
I'm glad aldas gives Alonso his credit where it's due ,love his videos ,Alonso a beast and his consistency is maddening .
I know it's a massive claim, but Alonso really does have that Jim Clark quality. Someone who can drive anything, be quick, and only get better with age. He makes me wonder what Jim Clark would've gone on to achieve had he lived.
At this rate it looks like he'll only retire once he approaches 50. The fact that Alonso spent years and years in the sport with cars that can be so off the pace to the frontrunners and where he'd be lucky to even get a podium, and yet still have the drive to give it another shot one after the other despite the setbacks he's faced is the very definition of tenacity.
No doubt once he retires he'll probably be celebrated just as much as Vettel not only because of wins but also how long he's been able to keep up with how the sport changed over the years.
He may become the first driver in decades to race near his 50s
He might even continue his hunt for the triple crown. The man's a racing legend not just in formula 1.
Lovely video. Been an Alonso fan since Montoya left. I've always admired his raw talent and passion, the guy feels unbreakable. Also with his neverending prime, Alonso brought back the idea of a complete race car driver. The man hunted Indy 500, Daytona, Le mans, WEC, even Dakar. Drivers are now even more restricted to just F1, so to see a driver attempt at everything that goes fast and succeed at almost every one is just astonishing. Shame that history hasn't been fair to him, but we racing lovers will remember him as not only one of the goats of F1, but also of the entire racing discipline. Love him or hate him, his speed and commitment is undeniable. He made history when young, and is making history now, 20 years later. A truly inspirational man.
This is another reason why I love Montoya. He's also a complete racer. F3000 title, CART Title, Monaco GP win, Indy 500 wins, Daytona 24 Wins, IMSA Prototype Champion.................I finally got to see him win in-person at Mid Ohio 2019, and I had goosebumps when I saw him and Helio at the autograph table. Too bad his stint in F1 and Indycars were relatively short. He seems to bounce from one thing to the next every few years and he seems to make a lot of on-track mistakes unfortunately. But I'm excited to see what else he does and I really want to see Nando up on the podium this year. It's a great Dark Horse story arc, reminds me of Kimi at Lotus fighting for podiums in 2012-2013. Those were VERY fun times to watch!
The key factor that differentiates Fernando from the rest is his mentality. Not only his motivation, but he is able to stay relaxed (but focused) in situations where anybody else would be a bundle of nerves. And it seems like his mind has become stronger with age and experience.
I think AMR made a genius move for the brand by getting Fernando .
And Fernando made a good career move for once by going to AMR. And at the time it seemed insane.
@@antonkirilenko3116 for sure, reading some comments from barely a few months ago between the seasons no one gave him or AMR a chance
Alonso seriously has that hunger and motivation, that makes him one of the greatest of all time :)
Alonso has always been the best on the grid. All he needs is a good car to show his colours.
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@@Gimma616 okay
Most consistent driver in modern f1 history.
60-70 years from now people are still going to talk about Fernando and remember him,just like Jim Clark.
Fernando is the only driver you could send to any era of Formula 1 and be just as competitive as the best of their day. He embodies the best qualities of all the GOATs that came before him. IMO he’s the best to ever do it and we’re all so lucky to get to see Lewis, Max and Alonso scrap on the same track today.
Fernando is special. Even in a bad car his talent still shines
Don't know if we will actually see him win the third championship, but this man just makes me wonder. He is simply a pure racer, and it just makes me admire him so much
It's a pipe dream, but would love to see Alonso clinching his 3rd WDC title. If there's one guy on the grid who deserves another title, it's him
It's funny because this season reminds me of the good old Ferrari days, Red Bull on top and Fernando doing Fernando things with the 2nd-4th fastest car on the grid.
Fernando in the right car can compete just as equal but what makes fernando so special is his time as a driver. Experience you can only gain over time. A true goat
Alonso's spirit is one we all can learn from.
Hope he achieves his way overdue 3rd WDC.
This will be a very interesting season in decades.
I have been following Fernando since 2003, he's for sure one of the best F1 drivers the sport has ever seen. Said that, this new generation of drivers are the most prepared in history. The access to simulators, driving academies, regulated subcategories, etc. are producing authentic monsters like Verstappen, Leclerc, Russell or Norris. The fact that Alonso can still be compared to the top drivers of this generation is an incredible feat on itself.
i dont understand Lecrerc hype.. Norris is same low level...and Russell seems Ocon level.. I do see Verastappen a great one
Alonso is like a certain battery that just keeps going and going and going. He wants a third title just like Lewis want's his eighth title. He will keep trying year after year until finally he gets the title or his batteries run out of power.
I have been a fan of FA since 2003, and glad to see him fight every race the way he fought 20 years ago ....
Maybe he saw some examples from the Indycar (Dixon, Power). These guys are in their 40s and still fighting for the championship.
Sébastien Loeb, though. The guy has 9 titles in WRC and won the 2022 Monte Carlo Rally at almost 48 years old.
A Goat in my book. Pure greatness. Whatever you give him he always delivers. Gotta love hin for Legacy alone
Fernando was near the start of the young driver revolution, and he's stuck around to be on the list of the oldest drivers. Truly legendary
I think a big part of it could be that he never had kids. It must be really draining to start or maintain any sort of home life with an active F1 career so that extra focus is probably helping him to continue racing for so long. And I'm not saying having kids is a bad thing but I think Alonso is just one of those people that are so all in on their professional life to a degree most can't sustain and really feel fulfilled from.
So you mean we've yet to explore Goatifi's full potential...Impossible
ALO already experienced literally every up and downs situations in f1, no driver can achieve that much in that motorsport
“Alonso never left his prime, his car did.” From someone on youtube
The man just loves to race. He's a natural born racer. He's never going to stop as long as his life is in balance and his car will allow it.
Don't forget Alonso winning 24 hours of Le Mans (twice with Toyota in the hypercar class) and his close attempt to winning the Indy500 (cause by engine failure). If he wins Indy500 he will be crowned the Triple Crown of Motorsport.
One of the few drivers to win and attempt different Motorsport which requires intense focus, discipline, and abilities.
In my books he is one of the best modern drivers.
if AM hits the jackpot with the car designing, i can see fernndo retiring close to 50. dude breaths and lives for speed, and having a car that matches that ambition is perfect
With modern day medicine, he can easily perform on the highest level for several more years. And still, he said after he is done with F1, he will go and concur other racing competitions. I'd love to see him racing in LeMans up to 60 years old, like other drivers do.
No sé si será en F1, pero estemos seguros que lo veremos competir hasta esa edad. Los sponsors se lo rifarán para ir a Nascar u otras competiciones. Él solo mueve millones.
I remember last season when i was watching an F1 race, my father asked me if "that Alonso" was Fernando's son, because he saw both Schumacher and Verstappen, the sons of former drivers. I calmly said no, that's the same Alonso as 10 years ago.
To be honest I can clearly imagine Fernando Racing in the 2030 season for real. Knowing everything I known about the Aston Martin project dans where they already are. I don't see how they can be away from at least podium places until the new regulations. And for sure he will test the 2026 regs.
And I just love to see that. Having discovered the sport in 2005 Hen I was a young boy, I was already supporting him. And I think his prime strated around 2010-2012 but for me, he is still in it. I haven't seen anything that would indicate the opposite.
my concern for losing his need will be if aston amrtin are unable to keep up with upgrades, or deliver a poor car next season. He has struggled with poor cars for a while and been able to keep up his determination through it, but i think that now he has a greatd car again, if he loses it then that may cause him to no longer feel the same desire for F1. Its giving hope and then snatching it away.
I hope aston martin are able to stay in the top dogs as we have needed a new name for a while and it will hopefully renew the idea that a new team can make it to the top (i know they arent exactly a new team but a new name at the very least) will encourage newcomers like audi and be another pushing force for the current midfield and backmarkers.
Don't worry Aston can easily keep up
@@EL1TEHD1 fr- with the amount of external money going in, they don’t need to worry about in race budget caps
@@krispyk.1786 Even with massive external money coming in, there engineers have to be perfect against the likes of redbull, there's a good chance they will keep up and stay at the same pace but overtaking them will be very tricky. They do have far more wind tunnel time though which can help greatly.
If Fernando had a decent car this last 10 yeras he could've been at least an 8 time world champion.
If he couldn't beat Hamilton in his rookie season then I don't think so 😂😂
@@batsiraimatinenga9256 hey man people improve, who knows maybe he can beat him again, i mean he defended hamilton for 10 laps in an alpine, so who knows? : /
@@batsiraimatinenga9256 Ah yes, the ever-present Lewis stans who ignore everything that happened that year 😂 You guys are fun
No. He wouldn't. Alonso would leave teams that have too much internal rivalries. No way he consistently beats Hamilton or Vettel as teammates. would complain about favouritism as he did with Ocon and Hamilton.
@@batsiraimatinenga9256 If Nando and Lewis were in a Mercedes, the 7 driver championships, would be 3-4 or 4-3. Lewis would either have 5 or 4 WDCs, while Nando 6 or 5. Nico who was a brilliant, championship material racer, won one on Lewis. I would expect Nando in a Mercedes, to at least 2.
I watch F1 since 2011, and I've never seen a driver, who could squeeze the absolute maximum and even more from the car he drives.
2:42 There's genuinely something magical about Monaco. Seeing F1 cars from the 50's going around Loews corner at Monaco, still identifiable today, that's the kind of thing you have to love about the sport. To still be racing essentially the same street track 70 years later is amazing. And yeah, you had to be wealthy back then to be racing, but more importantly you had to be brave. Anybody who has watched GP: The Killer Years, which everybody should, will immediately understand how dangerous racing in F1 truly was.
I became a fan of Alonso back in 2001, simply because he drove for Minardi, which was my favourite team back then. It's unbelievable that 22 years later he is still in F1, the podium and even fighting for pole position.
"I am Fernando Alonso and I'm here to stay"
I'm very impressed with the racing level Alonso still has. It's amazing, the years don't take a toll on him.
proper rest is just as important as working your ass off to be in that position. but the motivation was always alonso's biggest strength. it's inspiring to say the least
I'm the same age as Fernando.
I expect my sim racing career to really take of this year.
Crazy that Alonso won his first race before I was even born. I’m an adult and my whole life Alonso’s been in F1, mad respect
Alonso’s craft is only parallel to his hunger. Clearly a tier S driver. True racer.
You can love him or hate him but he is a true warrior. 20 years later and still fighting like the first one, just amazing.
Long may he continue. Certainly makes the whole show a little less predictable, and my enjoyment wonderfully enhanced.
There is no recency bias with Alonso. I've never seen him not outperform a car, he has been consistently great.
The fact that Alonso will race 400 Grands Prix next season is mind-blowing.
Let's not forget that he was the dawn of that young driver revolution, breaking the long standing records first
Fernando Alonso does not need any recognition, he's a legend of the sport and everybody knows that, even morons.
There are things that are not measured by the number of championships achieved in a career.
Alonso brings a lot of entertainment into this F1 season.
Very enjoyable to watch him battle the rest.
Alonso Doing Alonso Stuff. 20 years in , As killer as Ever. What a Boss.🔥😎🇪🇦
I had every reason to hate Alonso because I was a Fan of Schumi as a Kid , supported Lewis in 2008-09 & Seb in Redbull. The only racer I genuinely feared as an opposing fan was Alonso which turned into immense respect later. He's the greatest Racer of the 21st Century IMO. Race starts, Awareness & IQ, Attack, Defense , overtakes, getting Extraordinary results in Sub-par Cars, tyre management, Race craft etc. Michael Stella who worked with Schumacher, Kimi & Alonso at Ferrari said the best point about Alonso is he doesn't have weaknesses and is very strong Mentally to which I agree . After 10+ years he has a Competitive enough car and I was so happy to see him so happy after the race. 😁
I'll put Michael in 20th Century bracket bcs he won his first WDC's in 90's. In 20th century , the GOAT conversation is between Fangio, Clarke, Senna, Schumacher & Prost (highly underrated).
I've always loved watching Fernando race. His style and speed have always been up there, and I'm looking forward to seeing him in a competitive car again this year! 🥳
Fernando Alonso right now is his best moment of his career. He was always great since the beginning, but through the years he was improving even more; and now he's at his best. The best of the world, and of the 21st century.
I think his career story is what makes him so motivated. I think he has been behind that 3rd and more championships for so long and has had it almost there a few times, that that's what fuels him. He might have had retired if he went on to win 6 times during the 00s, but he has had it so close so many times that he needs to scratch the itch.
I'm not an Alonso fan, I never was. But he is really an impressive driver and character. He doesn't give up, and doesn't seem to lose his drive for success, and that makes him a great driver. And when it's about fighting on track, he still fights like a 20 year old.
I hope he gets at least a race win and can mix up the ranks of the top team like it seems the Aston Martin car is able to.
Lewis could do the same. Because we don't see time flying but he turned 38 recently. He is already among the 10 oldest drivers to have raced in F1 in the last 20 years. And I feel like he still has his motivation. Had he won his 8th title in 2021, I think he would have lost some motivation, even if just unconsciously. But no, he looks determined to fight for title n°8 and ready to do what's needed to achieve it.
I'm not entirely sure about his pace. Is he as fast as he was still in 2021? Given the fact that the Mercedes doesn't look great, it's hard to say. But he's still able to beat Russell, so I'd say that yes, he still has great pace.
With Mercedes struggling and probably unable to fight for the title this year and very likely the next, that pushes things to 2025 when he'll be 40 years old. He too could become a senior top driver.
Imagine being in 2025 with Alonso in the Aston at 44 and Hamilton in the Mercedes at 40, both still fighting for racewins and the championship ! That would be insane.
Ham 38 isn't old for Motorsport racing drivers/riders. If you look onto others Motorsport categories you will find Loeb, Peterhansel, Loeb, Peterhansel, Sainz Sr., Scot Dixon, Ogier, Ekstrom, and Will Power, Bautists are still freaking fast in their respective Motorsport racing categories. These drivers are about to enter and even already at their 40ish. Why can some drivers/riders keep pacing up with any teammates throw to him and some others not later in their racing careers/comeback years? This below are worth considering:
1. Simply, drivers/riders would get to their peak (max-out) in 3-5 years. Let's say if the GOAT drivers/riders exist in any categories of Motorsport. The standard performance scoring benchmark of them are 100% - contributed by skill, technique, speed, and adaptability. The closer a driver/rider peaked level to the GOAT, the longer his/her competitiveness longevity. the higher your peak, the longer your competitiveness. If your performance ceiling somewhere further down from the GOAT driver/rider standard, you have a higher chance to get paired with drivers/riders having higher performance ceiling than you in years to come. The lower a driver performance ceiling, the higher his/her chance to get beaten by his /her talented teammates later in the future. A slight drop pace from your peaked could be enough for your lower rank teammates at their peaked to beat you.
2. Teammate pairing in career length. Why? If you are a top tier driver/rider paired with another top tier one as teammate, this condition will always keep you and your teammate always at the sharp end. Your teammate would keep pushing you. You can’t rest on your laurels. This kind of competition would set you and your teammate into new high benchmark. Meanwhile, if you are a top tier driver/rider paired with a mediocre teammate, you are fighting with yourself. The benchmark for you is “as long as you keep beating and dominating your mediocre teammate and beating all teams is good”. It is enough for you. You never know if you are operating in your highest level or not in doing so. You don't know if in fact it your team - car performance beating them rather than you are the most outstanding driver/rider compared other drivers/riders in different team. You don't know if the others top drivers/riders driving/riding slower cars/bikes than you already set new high because they keep beating and beating each other as teammate.
3. Adaptability/Operating Window. Narrowed operating windows drivers/riders will be exposed once they have a setup liking problem. The great Rossi and Danny Ric and are Motorsport racers who recently failed to unlearn what they used to drive or ride before. It caused them failed to adapt to difference setup liking.
Fernando Alonso - A driver who somehow always manages to stay in his prime. And what a prime that is...
If Alonso could pull off a win in any race, I think there is a chance.
Wow, what a video. Very complete and showing a good effort. Congrats.
Here's the thing, Alonso has passion. Passion alone will overcome almost everything. That is why this man is still here whipping these young guys. Passion is the formula!
@@SaintNyx I love and agree with everything you wrote and thanks for the insight. I love Fernando, I followed his career since he moved to Renault. I loved watching him dethrone my other favourite driver at the time, Michael Schumacher. These were some of my favourite times in F1. Even today, me heart is with him because of his passion to take another championship and also, I find the other drivers a bit boring sometimes because they don't show as much emotion as he does. I am really wishing him a great season and I hope there is another championship for him in the future.
Nice name, btw.
The difference is performance ceiling. Let's say if the GOAT F1 driver standard performance scoring benchmark is 100% contributed by skill, technique, speed, and adaptability. The closer the former champion peaked level to the GOAT, the longer his/her top-level competitiveness longevity. If the former champion performance ceiling somewhere further down from the GOAT driver standard, he has a higher chance to get paired with drivers having higher performance ceiling than himself in years to come. If he doesn’t survive the challenge, he will get exposed. Vettel, Kimi, and Schumacher crumbled later in their careers are the case proof. In fact, F1 competitiveness level is dynamic. It changes from year to year. Not just from entire grid perspective, but also teammate pairing competitiveness. Drivers come and go to F1 would change the dynamic of competition and the depth of talent pool in F1 change each year through generations. Sometimes today's F1 drivers’ generations have better talents than drivers coming from GP2/F2. It means today's F1 drivers/champions will survive from the challenge given by new generations. On the other way around, Sometimes, today's F1 drivers’ generations have lesser talent than drivers coming from GP2/F2. The champions from this generations will not survive the challenge from new generations. Their top-level competitiveness longevity will come short.
@@SaintNyx ❤
longevity is the only thing that a team cant really influence, like obviously they can but a drivers mental is the main thing with that, so being so competitive after so long is definitely something impressive and worthy of celebration
Man is a living legend. Always has been. Disgustingly underrated.
No one who's been watching F1 pre-DTS thinks Alonso is underrated...
One of the most outstanding skills Alonso has is the ability to adapt and outperform the car to the highest level. He also mentioned that the reason he never intended to have children is because of his love to motor racing. He is by far one of my idols since I fell i love to motorsports.
Astronomical levels… I see what you did there haha 😂
As an Alonso die hard fan NOBODY is beating max in equal machinery right now . Dudes on another level .
Going to be scary when Alonso hits his peak.
I started to watch F1 during the Hungarian GP 2021 (Race), i was bored and i saw at television this car starting alone on the grid (Lewis Hamilton) so i found it strange and i watched it and loved it.
Right after i started to try to know a bit more about F1 and the days after i started to like it more. So i really learned everyting about this sport and even about F1 engineering (as i am an Engineer). So i arrived and learned about this sport with 0 bias.
At times people were saying Alonso was a bit finished but the more i learned about F1 the more i was impressed by Fernando Alonso, i really saw that this guy was something special as i was watching the races from the past. When the 2022 season started i realized who this guy really was and i consider him as the best driver of this generation. I am not someone that hate on people i really dont care about the drivers because i think loving a driver tend to mislead your judgement, for example i wanted Hamilton to win his 8th title and i believe that Alonso is very jealous of him while thinking that Alonso was and is still the best driver of the two.
In conclusion i wanted to say that for me (a new fan with 0 bias) fernando is the best driver we had for a long time and i can't do the comparision with Schumacher because i havent watched all of his races at his prime but Fernando is for me the best driver since at least Schumacher.
Alonso has always been the best. Results just haven't come his way to highlight his immense skills and talent. Drives fair too unlike many others labeled "the goat".
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That point is slightly misleading. Ayrton Senna was supposedly the 'first modern F1 driver' because of the countless hours he spent on perfecting the details of the car with his engineers. Some may even go back and say Nikki Lauda was because he was of the same mould. Alain Prost was also of that pedigree as was Nigel Mansell. While I'd say 'Modern F1' really begins in the 1980s, (mid-to-late 1980s) I would say that the "modern F1 drivers' are a new breed, because they are younger than ever, starting earlier than ever, and far more automated than ever. Alonso is more of a hybrid of two eras.
It’s simple alonso is the only all time great that feels he hasn’t achieved what he deserved if vettel or Hamilton felt the Same way they would be in f1 till their 40s which I don’t see happening
Hamilton is following Alonso steps.. I think it’s not that much about winning anymore but about the journey.
@@dave7573 yeah that might be true actually
@@dave7573 Might be Hamilton decide to prolong stay F1 because his arch rival was back.
I think a big factor in his performance these days is his willingness to teach younger generations. He has still fairly recently started his own managment company, his young talents are doing very well for themselves, he is teaching them directly and also by extension setting an example for them with his own driving. We all have heard the phrase "do your talking on the track", seems to me personally Fernando is also applying this mantra to his teaching method ie "doing his teaching on the track".I am sure this adds to his motivation. 🙂
I think Prost and Mansell were like Alonso in that they were still performing at a very high level at a reletively late age. Mansell won his F1 championship at 39, and then the next year, Indycar at age 40, and Prost that year got his fourth title at age 38. Prost retired after that but easily could have kept going and fighting for titles into his early 40's, and Mansell continued to be a very strong driver into his 40's as well. Unlike Schumi and Kimi, Prost, Mansell and Alonso kept the motivation and aged better.
As for when Alonso will stop, if he doesn't get a title-competitive car in the next couple years, I think he'll be satisfied with at least one more win. I think the motivation will at the very least stay until that point.
The difference is performance ceiling. Let's say if the GOAT F1 driver standard performance scoring benchmark is 100% contributed by skill, technique, speed, and adaptability. The closer the former champion peaked level to the GOAT, the longer his/her top-level competitiveness longevity. If the former champion performance ceiling somewhere further down from the GOAT driver standard, he has a higher chance to get paired with drivers having higher performance ceiling than himself in years to come. If he doesn’t survive the challenge, he will get exposed. Vettel, Kimi, and Schumacher crumbled later in their careers are the case proof. In fact, F1 competitiveness level is dynamic. It changes from year to year. Not just from entire grid perspective, but also teammate pairing competitiveness. Drivers come and go to F1 would change the dynamic of competition and the depth of talent pool in F1 change each year through generations. Sometimes today's F1 drivers’ generations have better talents than drivers coming from GP2/F2. It means today's F1 drivers/champions will survive from the challenge given by new generations. On the other way around, Sometimes, today's F1 drivers’ generations have lesser talent than drivers coming from GP2/F2. The champions from this generations will not survive the challenge from new generations. Their top-level competitiveness longevity will come short.
not really a benchmark. as you know, prost and mansell definitely had some competitive cars throughout their entire careers and haven't spent that long in f1. fernando has dealt with disgusting mclaren hondas for 4 years consecutively. at that point in 2018, he has spent like what? 16 seasons? and then deals with those slow hunks of crap for 4 years? that is motivation destruction. what type of driver could you rip apart like that and still have the motivation to continue?
that first win this year is gonna be an extraordinary day to witness as a racing fan
Alonso is probably gonna be around for another 4-5 years if given a at least decent car and he definitely has the chance to win a wdc
For me, he's one of the goats in F1, not because how many WDC or achievement he got but how he does F1 so far
Fangio didnt win his first title until he was 40. He was 46 when he won his last title.
f1 was nowhere near as physical as it was back then and skill gaps between drivers were huge. i mean, if you had balls and balls alone, you could probably beat half the grid already.
@@no1washerezz The early years of F1 were almost a continuation of pre-war Grand Prix racing, with most of the Drivers also being either Veterans of the 1930s or wealthy Gentlemen Drivers. There were massive gaps between cars too. 1950 and 51 were completely dominated by Alfa with only Ferrari catching up towards the middle of 51. Once Alfa left only Ferrari had a competitive F1 car so in order to keep the series alive 52 and 53 had to be run under F2 regs
He ain’t just an F1 GOAT but he is a Motor Sport GOAT
Fantastic video keep it up you're doing amazing job and As Kimi fanboy growing up he and others stopped the iceman from winning more but Fernando is top 5 in my opinion in rew pace mayde higher
Alonso still seems to be able to make lightning-fast tactical decisions to pull off passes, also seen in his ability to avoid contact (apart from tyre kisses), particularly during 1st-lap melees, and hence has very few offs and crashes. Overall, he rarely makes mistakes (Raikonnen was similar) - I can't remember the last time I saw him make one. I'd guess the fact that he almost never has expensive crashes has been much appreciated by all the teams he's driven for.
The greatest. No question...
Fernando Alonso will always be in tne F1 Legend conversation alongside the best of them.
Hope he gets a 3rd World Championship too. Fingers Crossed!
For me Alonso is propably the 2nd or 3rd best driver on the grid right now
If he stays motivated who knows if he doesn't continue until his late 40's
Quality & ability wise Fernando is still at the top. First Ferrari ruined his caree& then McLaren.
Back when Fernando started beating Schumi in the Renault I was like, "Who does this guy thnk he is?" Even though I confessed at the time it started to get boring watching Schumi/Ferrari win all the time. But he IS a helluva driver and he still seems as focused as ever. He's had a run of poor cars over the years, and probably got passed over because of his age in the last decade or so.
And that last part is exactly why I'd love to see him get one more in the bag. It may be a huge ask, but it appears his car is the oly one in the field that has a shot at it. So let's see how close he can get. :) It would be a fairy tale of sorts, but it would be HUGE in the F1 history books.
fernando is the most consistant driver of all time, thats why i believe he is the goat. he doesnt have the most wins and or titles but he shows that if you give him the car he will win (and or get two podiums consequtively in the firszts 2 races of the season)
Make that 3!!!! 😁
6:45 In fact, Fernando Alonso is in his absolute prime. He was improving his driving skills (even more that he had in the beginning, which was huge already) after all the years he spent in F1, WEC, Indy Car, Daytona, Dakar... and now he is at his best.
10:20 Not only one of the absolute best drivers on the grid, but the best driver in the entire world.
¡Vamos, Fernando! Gana la 33 primero y luego a por el tercer mundial de F1 💪 💪 .