*Have you ever tried boxing? Don't you agree that it helps to build a strength of character and perseverance? Kindly let me know in the comments below! :)*
I boxed for a year in a small town in Canada when I was about 17. The town was considered pretty hard, had the highest crime rate per capita at one point, and while they didn't go for the KO in training they'd ring your bell. The head instructor was not a professional coach, I remember he used always have a cigarette hanging our of his yap and he was in horrible shape and not always sober, but he'd put in a lot of time in the ring, and a lot of his words and concepts paid off later, though he wasn't much one for footwork sadly. It certainly demystified getting hit in the head and the training certainly required perseverance, and opened my eyes to circular strikes (I had come in with a kyokushin background). Side note, used to train with this guy from Uzbekistan who boxed during the soviet era (one of his side hustles while in the army), who told me of underground professional fights put on by the mafiyah. Apparently hidden fouls were considered high art - he showed me a tech with a hidden elbow in it, another with a hidden trip. Have you heard of any of this?
@@johnelliott9823 Sounds like you have a lot of combat experience, I am glad that could go through all that and come out stronger! Yes, the Uzbek school of boxing was very highly valued in the USSR, especially in the low-weight divisions, it was only second to the Kazakh school. Your experience in kyoukushin has certainly helped you out right? I have met some Kyoukushin practitioners and they are tough as nails, sometimes it seems their bodies are immune to pain during the sparring sessions. Adding boxing to it, would cover all the weak spots, and make a force to be reckoned with for sure. How long have you practiced the martial arts overall?
@@mikitadou I was active for maybe 25 years overall. I started karate at 12 but had breaks - moving countries, moving towns. Kyokushin as I was taught helped reduce fear of contact, and also helped with space management. Where I got caught at first was hooks, uppercuts and overhands - those weird loopy trajectories where normally I'd try and get space with a kick or knee. Probably my biggest benefit from boxing was shelling and angles. kyokushin was pretty linear comparitively
@@mikitadou Hello, A great Soviet style of boxing that I have integrated in my La Boxe Francaise-Savate is the Chelnok style. (Metronome style in-and-out movement, long distance jab, cross (both with the thumb pointing down) and uppercut). I combine my Chelnok techniques with the “Russian hook” (a.k.a. Sambo’s casting punch). Because LBF-S only has two ranges (English Boxing range and kicking with foot/instep) normally, Chelnok style of boxing can be used inbetween those ranges. Maybe this style could be something for a future video?
i think it would be a sweet topic for a video to look at how soviet boxers/athletes were portrayed in western media, you made brief mention of it here, but honestly ive never personally considered how deep it runs in the subject of sports. for example looking at ivan drago from the rocky series, obviously this is a caricature of a robotic, bloodthirsty, morally abhorrent soviet (as mentioned); but that almost has made (to me at least) the fact that ivan is an athlete a sort of externality if that makes sense. so at least personally, the cold war hysteria/propaganda makes Rocky IV feel more like an amerikan fantasy of physically winning their "cold war" than an actual representation of the sport. i cant think of any other prominent examples of this, but ivan is in the rocky spinoffs apparently (creed films) and since his appearance i dont think he has rlly left the cultural zeitgeist of the west.
You are absolutely right, growing up in the 90s I have seen a lot of western movies portraying Soviet opponents/athletes as emotionless super villains. There are a lot of other examples besides Drago, however in Red Heat, Arnold was playing a stereotypical robotic Soviet KBG agent, but it was in a good light, since he was one of the good guys and not a villian for once :) I might create a video with the most prominent examples soon!
I think you would do well to convert this channel into a martial arts review channel. It's what you seem to enjoy the most and brings in the most views as well! Not to mention, it's what I'm here for!
Thanks for the kind words mate! :) I do have plans for many martial arts based vids, they are coming! In what kind of things in particular are you interested in?
@@mikitadou I really enjoyed the videos you did on the lesser known, esoteric martial arts like Combat Sambo, Systema Kadochnikova and I also really liked the Bullshido series!
@@SnapThority Thank you for the kind words Sir, I am working on more martial arts vids at this moment, I will concentrate on Russian, Ukrainian, and other Eastern Martial arts for now, but I will explore other martial genres too. Is there a particular martial art you would want me to dig into?
I really like your informative and entertaining explanations about Russian Martial Arts! I would love to see you do an episode of Caucasus Martial Arts and maybe even specifically on Abdulmanap Nurmagomedov and his son. Much love from The Netherlands!
Thank you very much! And thank you for suggestions, It would be indeed interesting to explore Caucasus traditional weaponry and wresting styles, I should get to it some time soon! Cheers :)
I love boxing and I love the story of the USSR in sports. I've been watching your videos lately and you are REALLY REALLY GOOD! Fuk youtube algorithm! I hope you get big one day you definitely have the tools to do so.
You make very interesting videos, however Im wondering are you a fan of the Soviet Union? Do you think it was a good thing for the people living under it? Have you read the gulag archipelago by Alexander Solzhenitsyn?
Thanks mate! I am not a fan of the Soviet Union per se, I just enjoy showcasing some elements of the Soviet Life and Culture that are rather unknown to the non-natives, as well as to provide authentic information that in many cases differs from the Cold War propaganda. USSR was guilty of a lot of fake propaganda towards the US as well, I am very openminded towards that. But being a fan of the combat sports and martial arts, I find the development of the Soviet-era martial arts particularly interesting, since they did try to implement many scientific and unorthodox elements into it. I haven't read that book, but I am well aware of gulags and the brutality that was in place there. Do you recommend it? :)
@@mikitadou I do recommend it. You would probably have a greater understanding than me from the book. Alexander Solzhenitsyn also done a follow up called 200 years together, which has never been released in English yet. Be great for you to read both. Yeah I find it very interesting also that the Soviets encouraged things like boxing and martial arts, cause the left wing culture in the West is to stop boxing and masculine sports. They prefer to encourage soft feminine activities on boys and men. But maybe it was cause the Soviets at this stage already had control and wanted to win medals, who knows 🤷 But keep up the great videos, I'll subscribe to you. Also thanks for replying, I appreciate it 💪👍
Have you read the gulag archipelago by Alexander Solzhenitsyn? Whahahah... have you read "You can't make electricity from Ether, you must use our oil" by Einstein?
Its hard to say, Soviet boxing took elements from many things, and many home-brew methods were developed by independent coaches due to their own research. For example Lomachenko's father. He coached Lomachenko and Usyk as well, both are Champions, and both of them have a rather unusual boxing style.
There are multiple points that are left out. For example that the foundations of soviet boxing were laid almost exclusively by foreigners - Germans, Americans, Jews, the French, the story of "aristocrats" is bollocks (sorry). Secondly, Soviet and "Russian" boxing in particular is promoted left and right by Russians as stuff of legends, but in all actuality, the US had almost twice as many Olympic medals (despite most of their fighters turning pro), and even small nations like Poland or Italy had pretty much the same success as the Soviet team. But do we constantly hear of "powerful Polish boxing school" or "legendary Italian boxing"? Hardly.
*Have you ever tried boxing? Don't you agree that it helps to build a strength of character and perseverance?
Kindly let me know in the comments below! :)*
I boxed for a year in a small town in Canada when I was about 17. The town was considered pretty hard, had the highest crime rate per capita at one point, and while they didn't go for the KO in training they'd ring your bell. The head instructor was not a professional coach, I remember he used always have a cigarette hanging our of his yap and he was in horrible shape and not always sober, but he'd put in a lot of time in the ring, and a lot of his words and concepts paid off later, though he wasn't much one for footwork sadly.
It certainly demystified getting hit in the head and the training certainly required perseverance, and opened my eyes to circular strikes (I had come in with a kyokushin background).
Side note, used to train with this guy from Uzbekistan who boxed during the soviet era (one of his side hustles while in the army), who told me of underground professional fights put on by the mafiyah. Apparently hidden fouls were considered high art - he showed me a tech with a hidden elbow in it, another with a hidden trip. Have you heard of any of this?
@@johnelliott9823 Sounds like you have a lot of combat experience, I am glad that could go through all that and come out stronger!
Yes, the Uzbek school of boxing was very highly valued in the USSR, especially in the low-weight divisions, it was only second to the Kazakh school.
Your experience in kyoukushin has certainly helped you out right? I have met some Kyoukushin practitioners and they are tough as nails, sometimes it seems their bodies are immune to pain during the sparring sessions. Adding boxing to it, would cover all the weak spots, and make a force to be reckoned with for sure.
How long have you practiced the martial arts overall?
@@mikitadou I was active for maybe 25 years overall. I started karate at 12 but had breaks - moving countries, moving towns. Kyokushin as I was taught helped reduce fear of contact, and also helped with space management. Where I got caught at first was hooks, uppercuts and overhands - those weird loopy trajectories where normally I'd try and get space with a kick or knee. Probably my biggest benefit from boxing was shelling and angles. kyokushin was pretty linear comparitively
@@mikitadou Hello, A great Soviet style of boxing that I have integrated in my La Boxe Francaise-Savate is the Chelnok style. (Metronome style in-and-out movement, long distance jab, cross (both with the thumb pointing down) and uppercut). I combine my Chelnok techniques with the “Russian hook” (a.k.a. Sambo’s casting punch).
Because LBF-S only has two ranges (English Boxing range and kicking with foot/instep) normally, Chelnok style of boxing can be used inbetween those ranges.
Maybe this style could be something for a future video?
i always wanted to know about sovietic boxing, they won a lot of olympic medals
I will make a follow-up soon, about the development of the Soviet Boxing after the 1952 olympics!
Communist history and boxing, might be my two favorite subjects. Great video as always
Thanks Comrade! I will come back to Soviet boxing soon! There is still a lot of history to unravel :)
what a great video ! thank you, would you recommend any sources for anyone interested in the subject ?
The history of Soviet martial arts is fascinating! Thank you for sharing this particular facet.
i think it would be a sweet topic for a video to look at how soviet boxers/athletes were portrayed in western media, you made brief mention of it here, but honestly ive never personally considered how deep it runs in the subject of sports.
for example looking at ivan drago from the rocky series, obviously this is a caricature of a robotic, bloodthirsty, morally abhorrent soviet (as mentioned); but that almost has made (to me at least) the fact that ivan is an athlete a sort of externality if that makes sense. so at least personally, the cold war hysteria/propaganda makes Rocky IV feel more like an amerikan fantasy of physically winning their "cold war" than an actual representation of the sport. i cant think of any other prominent examples of this, but ivan is in the rocky spinoffs apparently (creed films) and since his appearance i dont think he has rlly left the cultural zeitgeist of the west.
You are absolutely right, growing up in the 90s I have seen a lot of western movies portraying Soviet opponents/athletes as emotionless super villains. There are a lot of other examples besides Drago, however in Red Heat, Arnold was playing a stereotypical robotic Soviet KBG agent, but it was in a good light, since he was one of the good guys and not a villian for once :)
I might create a video with the most prominent examples soon!
I think you would do well to convert this channel into a martial arts review channel. It's what you seem to enjoy the most and brings in the most views as well! Not to mention, it's what I'm here for!
Thanks for the kind words mate! :)
I do have plans for many martial arts based vids, they are coming!
In what kind of things in particular are you interested in?
@@mikitadou I really enjoyed the videos you did on the lesser known, esoteric martial arts like Combat Sambo, Systema Kadochnikova and I also really liked the Bullshido series!
@@SnapThority Thank you for the kind words Sir, I am working on more martial arts vids at this moment, I will concentrate on Russian, Ukrainian, and other Eastern Martial arts for now, but I will explore other martial genres too.
Is there a particular martial art you would want me to dig into?
Awesome! I am a boxing fan myself, always was interested in the development of the old school soviet boxing.
Thanks! There is still a lot to tell, more is coming soon! :)
I really like your informative and entertaining explanations about Russian Martial Arts! I would love to see you do an episode of Caucasus Martial Arts and maybe even specifically on Abdulmanap Nurmagomedov and his son. Much love from The Netherlands!
Thank you very much! And thank you for suggestions, It would be indeed interesting to explore Caucasus traditional weaponry and wresting styles, I should get to it some time soon! Cheers :)
I love boxing and I love the story of the USSR in sports. I've been watching your videos lately and you are REALLY REALLY GOOD! Fuk youtube algorithm! I hope you get big one day you definitely have the tools to do so.
Thank you for your support and kind words mate! :D
Regarding the combat arts, are you interested mainly in Boxing? or other fighting styles too?
Awesome!
Thanks! Are you a boxing fan? or interested in the history of the USSR in general?
You make very interesting videos, however Im wondering are you a fan of the Soviet Union? Do you think it was a good thing for the people living under it?
Have you read the gulag archipelago by Alexander Solzhenitsyn?
Thanks mate! I am not a fan of the Soviet Union per se, I just enjoy showcasing some elements of the Soviet Life and Culture that are rather unknown to the non-natives, as well as to provide authentic information that in many cases differs from the Cold War propaganda. USSR was guilty of a lot of fake propaganda towards the US as well, I am very openminded towards that.
But being a fan of the combat sports and martial arts, I find the development of the Soviet-era martial arts particularly interesting, since they did try to implement many scientific and unorthodox elements into it.
I haven't read that book, but I am well aware of gulags and the brutality that was in place there. Do you recommend it? :)
@@mikitadou I do recommend it. You would probably have a greater understanding than me from the book. Alexander Solzhenitsyn also done a follow up called 200 years together, which has never been released in English yet. Be great for you to read both.
Yeah I find it very interesting also that the Soviets encouraged things like boxing and martial arts, cause the left wing culture in the West is to stop boxing and masculine sports. They prefer to encourage soft feminine activities on boys and men.
But maybe it was cause the Soviets at this stage already had control and wanted to win medals, who knows 🤷
But keep up the great videos, I'll subscribe to you. Also thanks for replying, I appreciate it 💪👍
Have you read the gulag archipelago by Alexander Solzhenitsyn? Whahahah... have you read "You can't make electricity from Ether, you must use our oil" by Einstein?
@@ForestJarl that must have been at the end of the Soviet Union, Before the collapse.
Different people were in charge at the beginning
i liked your video do me a favor could you list all the movies that were used in this video thank you
I love this video. May I download it and share on Facebook? I see you haven't actually uploaded any videos to your FB page.
Thank you:) I am glad that you liked it.
Sure! Feel free to use it!
@@mikitadou fantastic. Thank you so much. I will take your profile in the post.
can you tell me the name of the movies listed here thanks
Is it true that Soviet boxing also take inspiration from Karate
Its hard to say, Soviet boxing took elements from many things, and many home-brew methods were developed by independent coaches due to their own research. For example Lomachenko's father. He coached Lomachenko and Usyk as well, both are Champions, and both of them have a rather unusual boxing style.
Why is there so many Orientals in soviet Russia?
Kazakhs
There are multiple points that are left out. For example that the foundations of soviet boxing were laid almost exclusively by foreigners - Germans, Americans, Jews, the French, the story of "aristocrats" is bollocks (sorry). Secondly, Soviet and "Russian" boxing in particular is promoted left and right by Russians as stuff of legends, but in all actuality, the US had almost twice as many Olympic medals (despite most of their fighters turning pro), and even small nations like Poland or Italy had pretty much the same success as the Soviet team. But do we constantly hear of "powerful Polish boxing school" or "legendary Italian boxing"? Hardly.