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"never use references" My art teacher said in my fundamental art class that using references is highly recommend so student can improve better than not using it. Using references is actually helpful especially if you want your art to be more realistic.
@@Qwizz Another example of why going to art classes is the fastest way to Improve than searching for the information by your own. I'm sorry but there's too many misinformation out there
OH MY GOD THANK YOU!! I absolutely DESPISE the “it’s just my artstyle” joke. Because guess what, it just is. Art is subjective and your personal opinion is not what’s right. People need to stop discouraging beginner artist for the sake of comedy. Most of the time the jokes aren’t even funny they’re just straight up mean. This is so important for artists to hear
right? it's so mean to give out unrequested criticism and then MAKE FUN of them because they said "it's just how i like to draw and i don't want to take this advice" idk why its so normalized to make fun of ppl who say its just their art style like huh??? it's so hurtful and rude
not enough people point out that practice isnt linear. i feel like its really important because a lot of people think theyre not improving fast enough. a lot of times it’s because you’re not getting new information or don’t know what to try next. or just being scared of experimenting. i feel like the whole “finding your style” thing is weird to because of this, like if you want to draw in one style that’s fine but if you want to improve you have to be willing to try new and different methods and techniques. anyway yea cool video
yeah, i think what kills motivation is feeling like every piece you make has to look better than the last, and that mindset is present even with people who have been drawing for years. when you're experimenting with different styles, they're not all going to look equally high quality, but you learn from everything you try!
4:48 Lol real, I remember when I first started, asking someone that I looked up to how to improve, and they took my drawing, pointed out everything they didn’t like about it, and told me to stop doing it. I understand they were trying to be helpful, but it genuinely almost made me quit art as a whole.
HUH? thats awful and unhelpful D: i think when you give someone art advice you should try to help them build on the style they already have rather than trying to make them draw in a completely different way to suit YOUR taste
I personally like airbrush shading! I typically use it in a smaller size, or when i use it in a bigger size its usually a gradiant layer for lighting rather tuan shading :3 whilst it can look odd in wrong scenarios, it can look amazing as well :)
Not using references is the stupidest tip ever, because drawing from your brain is just referencing your not-always-entirely-accurate memories that come from the real world, so using your brain is just like using a reference but worse lol
My biggest grub with new artists are that they ask the most broad questions ever 😭 " how do i draw (instert thing ) / how do i become better at art " and your answer will be practise! ASK MUCH MORE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS TO US MORE ADVANCE ARTISTS WE WILL HELP YOU WE WILL EXPLAIN IT WAY MORE THAN " practice * PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD ASK MUCH MORE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS 😭😭
I always shade with black but turn the opacity down under %50 and i think it looks good. I also shade with pencil and then use the Q tip tool to blend in the edges lol
8:37 THIS THIS THIS!! I've struggled for so long with wording this exact sentiment - it's important to be specific about what you want to improve on when asking artists for tips. I've said "just practice" before because oftentimes beginners will approach me with the vague question of "How do I get better?" and won't give me any more details about their process, or what they have/haven't been doing. I'm just not good with vague questions in general. I don't want to come off as gatekeepy or rude, but I get scared that I might because I genuinely don't know what to say when there's no context paired with that question. Asking an artist if they are comfortable with giving advice beforehand is always good too :)
I want to add to the 'style' criticism thing, I think people should be allowed to not accept or want criticism if they're just doing it as a hobby, it's only when they start selling or doing paid work that they cannot duck away from criticism anymore.
OK so older artist here, time for some points to maybe expand here: the "it's just my artstyle" is only ever ok to say when it's a beginning to low-intermediate artist saying it, because in that era you're still finding yourself or your talents. Yes, this can mean some art can be subjectively or even *objectively* ugly, but I argue that sometimes adds to the charm of beginning art, and might even be partly the point of the work. It's at this point where the art style IS a genuine excuse since it's still trying to be found. Where it's more brought into question and debate, I would argue, is when it's depicting harmful racist or antisemitic stereotypes, which is the only time I ever personally see the "it's just my art style" excuse nowadays. Washed-out ashy greys, calling black facial proportions "gorilla shaped", etc, are all common things draped over with an unreasonable excuse of "oh but my art style." That's where it's inexcusable and that's where most people are referring to the issue. Anyone who DOES use it to just outright bash starting artists is just... wrong, and misinterpreting the whole reason why we say "it's not an excuse" so often. The "stop doing things a certain way" i would argue that.... unless you ARE doing specifically a comic book design and that's where your passion is at, AVOIDING black shading starting out will actually be of a major benefit since it teaches you when and where to use it. AVOIDING the airbrush starting out, same thing. There is NO SUCH THING as an art rule, however, as every figure drawing class and other professional artists have always said, "you have to KNOW the rules before you can break them." To be specific: The thing with "don't shade with black", specifically, they're not referring to the blocked in black on comics, and if they are, well, they're wrong. No, they're referring to when people use it to shade and then turn down the opacity. Rarely does that work well, unless the piece is black and white specifically. And for the airbrush, it's mostly just the overreliance that's the problem. It's excellent for a final gradient effect, as you mentioned, or the opposite: adding a soft lighting And this last one is for anyone who asks for art advice or doesn't know how to give it and gets stumped, ask specific questions. What do you want to get OUT of art? Studying, instead of just practicing, is probably more important. Study what you want to draw, and then when you try to learn how to do it and don't know how an artist does [thing], maybe ask about that, specifically. There is no such thing as art style theft [unless it's AI.🖕to ai.] so learn however is easiest for you. Just remember, learning by tracing is ok [especially if it's for the sake of learning anatomy], posting it online isn't.
What i love about this channel is the "beginner friendly" and acceptance of the fact that not everyone want to draw advanced things, posture, characters, movement or anatomy. Sometimes we're cool with a style or somethings and we don't want to go anywhere else too much. It's not my case, but it's quite refreshing to see. Also, practive is kinda the LEVEL 1 of advice, there's a lot of cool way you can practice, with reference, analyzing and reproduce art you love, trying new methods, even "tracing" to improve (this one is kinda tricky with a lot of warning but i find it very efficient to do)
seeing ppl draw the same characters over n over for a long period of time is a rlly good way to see clearly how their art improves over time- coming from someone who follows a bunch of fandom artists that draws the same lil characters again n again lol
When newer people ask for advice, I always ask what they want to achieve with their style. Cartoon-like styles require different tweaks and critique than realism. So things like “learn the rules before you break them” is (unfortunately) almost required if you want to draw realism, but if you’re perfectly fine with drawing with unrealistic proportions then I won’t give that advice. Anyways here’s some actually decent advice that I don’t see people giving a lot 1. If you’re a digital artist, it’s good to use a grey background when drawing. Using white can make colors appear lighter or darker than they actually are and can be preventing you from getting the look you want. 2. Try to learn foreshortening. It’s fine if you don’t want to, but you can make some pretty sick poses with it. 3. Experiment! Change things up for a drawing, you might find something you love! Example- I used a brush I’d never touched before on a piece once just for fun, and now it’s one of my favorite brushes. 4. Draw what makes you happy. If you keep trying to do art trends you might become burnt out or get art block. (This doesn’t mean to never do art trends, it just means to do whatever you want and not what an algorithm wants. ) 5. Please for the love of all that is holy stop using google images for references. Use Pinterest if you have it, if not then there are lots of websites out there with amazing references.
this is great advice! i usually use a gray background (or a little more reddish) but not so gray that i cant see my sketch bc i like sketching in full red because im weird and my brain itches when i dont but yeah it helped a lot! oh! and i think my trouble with "know the rules before you break them" isn't that it's necessarily bad advice, it just implies that to draw cartoon art or to exaggerate/change proportions you need to fully know how to draw them realistically, which isn't true and is also kind of demotivating because a beginner might feel like "to draw cartoon you have to learn realism" and get uninspired since that wasn't what they were interested in to begin with learning realism, practicing some types of realism, or just figuring out how things realistically look WILL help you for cartoon art, but it isn't a requirement, and you CAN break "rules" if you really want to without knowing every little thing about them. for realism yes you do though ahaha! but if that's what you WANT to learn then it'll be fun :3c also omg pinterest is the best, its ALWAYS my go to when i want references or just any inspiration if i dont know what to draw
On the references thing, I have a bit of advice, Sometimes I will draw poses that nobody has a ref for, in that case here's what I did to make my own: I don't have a camera but you know what I do have? A phone with a decent one! Use that in combination with one of those tripod stick things that hold up phones and badda bing baby, I got one of those sticks for like 20, yes it's sometimes annoying to find a spot to put the thing that get's the shots I wants but hey, cheaper than a legit camera.
just now this vid has made me realized that my style wasnt bad (well i mean it was) but that my friend was kinda rude for saying my art was goofy because i gave my art big eyes when i hadnt asked for it in the first place 💀
bruh fr i just enjoy experimenting shapes of art for fun, i don't find any points to say a person should have 'THAT' artstyle, like you don't know what the artist just tryna express overall. drawing suppose to be fun huh? hey if any of yall reading this is an artist, don't overload yourself with 'absolute correct' advices whoever anyone said to you, draw what you wanna draw :)
Thank for the art style thing, I draw so exaggerated that every person I draw is either ridiculously beautiful or ridiculously ugly, and people tell me I draw women with unrealistic proportions. Like, I know!
I just came across this channel earlier. Even if it may seem some videos don’t get that much views there will be people who come back for every upload. I plan on watching more later as well^^
what im most afraid of is someone telling me my art style (in more ways than one) is unoriginal and that im a copycat because i took a ton of inspiration from an artist i really like. ive been trying to do different things with it and change it to be a little more original, but its difficult. i feel like a lot of finding my style has been taking different aspects from other art styles and putting them into mine like a weird soup and im really worried about being called a thief or something because of it TvT
I feel like the best response to a question like "do you have any art tips?" or "how do you draw so well" is to say something along the lines of "practice, but you should try to practice new things -- a lot of artists will also look at other's art and take elements they like from them and turn it into their own thing, and it's really helpful to practice using references. I also find that it's best to try to break down images into more simple shapes. If you have anything you need help with specifically, I'll be able to help you better." That's just what I try to say at least, I hate saying "just practice" because it's super unhelpful, even if it's all I can think to say lol
3:19 I'm so happy that someone else said this, because I heard so many people give this advice and I only recently realized how bad it was (for me). I want to be able to draw little comics to tell a story, not draw realistic and eye-catching standalone pieces. This advice made me completely lose my motivation, and I gave up for a bit because it just felt like a chore
Since i never heard anyone say "don't use references" but always "use references" it kinda annoys me Yes, i know you can use references Do i use them? No bc i forget to Same with flip the canvas advice I know it helps but i also forget to do that
The final advice: you like art as a hobbie? Congrats! You can draw whatever you want in the style you want knowing that you're free of any kinf of forced improvement because it's a hobbie and not a job! You want to live throught your art? That's where thinks turns out complicated. The "fastest" way to learn It's going to art school (more precisely to Ilustration). The second way it's looking by the information by your own like you was in School. It's not impossible but is way more slower if you doesn't have the discipline for it. It also can conclude in receive the bad tips on this video and not improve at all during a time ._.
Just practice is the dumbest statement ever. You could be drawing for 6 years and it would still look bad. I think your average artist's projection is that they think everyone draws from reference.
"never use references"
My art teacher said in my fundamental art class that using references is highly recommend so student can improve better than not using it.
Using references is actually helpful especially if you want your art to be more realistic.
referencing is how you learn!
@@Qwizz Another example of why going to art classes is the fastest way to Improve than searching for the information by your own. I'm sorry but there's too many misinformation out there
The rn "entirely reworking your style every month" CALLED ME OUT
HAHA ITS FINE WE ALL DO IT
SAME I saw this video like 3 days after I drastically changed my style 💀
OH MY GOD THANK YOU!! I absolutely DESPISE the “it’s just my artstyle” joke. Because guess what, it just is. Art is subjective and your personal opinion is not what’s right. People need to stop discouraging beginner artist for the sake of comedy. Most of the time the jokes aren’t even funny they’re just straight up mean. This is so important for artists to hear
right? it's so mean to give out unrequested criticism and then MAKE FUN of them because they said "it's just how i like to draw and i don't want to take this advice"
idk why its so normalized to make fun of ppl who say its just their art style like huh??? it's so hurtful and rude
Making your art look murky might be the point sometimes for some people especially if they make darker or grimmer works
yeah, different artists enjoy different aesthetics. i doubt a horror artist would want their art to look very vibrant and cartoony, for example
not enough people point out that practice isnt linear. i feel like its really important because a lot of people think theyre not improving fast enough. a lot of times it’s because you’re not getting new information or don’t know what to try next. or just being scared of experimenting. i feel like the whole “finding your style” thing is weird to because of this, like if you want to draw in one style that’s fine but if you want to improve you have to be willing to try new and different methods and techniques. anyway yea cool video
yeah, i think what kills motivation is feeling like every piece you make has to look better than the last, and that mindset is present even with people who have been drawing for years.
when you're experimenting with different styles, they're not all going to look equally high quality, but you learn from everything you try!
4:48 Lol real, I remember when I first started, asking someone that I looked up to how to improve, and they took my drawing, pointed out everything they didn’t like about it, and told me to stop doing it. I understand they were trying to be helpful, but it genuinely almost made me quit art as a whole.
HUH? thats awful and unhelpful D:
i think when you give someone art advice you should try to help them build on the style they already have rather than trying to make them draw in a completely different way to suit YOUR taste
I personally like airbrush shading! I typically use it in a smaller size, or when i use it in a bigger size its usually a gradiant layer for lighting rather tuan shading :3 whilst it can look odd in wrong scenarios, it can look amazing as well :)
Not using references is the stupidest tip ever, because drawing from your brain is just referencing your not-always-entirely-accurate memories that come from the real world, so using your brain is just like using a reference but worse lol
My biggest grub with new artists are that they ask the most broad questions ever 😭 " how do i draw (instert thing ) / how do i become better at art " and your answer will be practise! ASK MUCH MORE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS TO US MORE ADVANCE ARTISTS WE WILL HELP YOU WE WILL EXPLAIN IT WAY MORE THAN " practice * PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD ASK MUCH MORE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS 😭😭
I always shade with black but turn the opacity down under %50 and i think it looks good. I also shade with pencil and then use the Q tip tool to blend in the edges lol
8:37 THIS THIS THIS!! I've struggled for so long with wording this exact sentiment - it's important to be specific about what you want to improve on when asking artists for tips. I've said "just practice" before because oftentimes beginners will approach me with the vague question of "How do I get better?" and won't give me any more details about their process, or what they have/haven't been doing. I'm just not good with vague questions in general. I don't want to come off as gatekeepy or rude, but I get scared that I might because I genuinely don't know what to say when there's no context paired with that question. Asking an artist if they are comfortable with giving advice beforehand is always good too :)
I want to add to the 'style' criticism thing, I think people should be allowed to not accept or want criticism if they're just doing it as a hobby, it's only when they start selling or doing paid work that they cannot duck away from criticism anymore.
OK so older artist here, time for some points to maybe expand here:
the "it's just my artstyle" is only ever ok to say when it's a beginning to low-intermediate artist saying it, because in that era you're still finding yourself or your talents. Yes, this can mean some art can be subjectively or even *objectively* ugly, but I argue that sometimes adds to the charm of beginning art, and might even be partly the point of the work. It's at this point where the art style IS a genuine excuse since it's still trying to be found.
Where it's more brought into question and debate, I would argue, is when it's depicting harmful racist or antisemitic stereotypes, which is the only time I ever personally see the "it's just my art style" excuse nowadays. Washed-out ashy greys, calling black facial proportions "gorilla shaped", etc, are all common things draped over with an unreasonable excuse of "oh but my art style." That's where it's inexcusable and that's where most people are referring to the issue. Anyone who DOES use it to just outright bash starting artists is just... wrong, and misinterpreting the whole reason why we say "it's not an excuse" so often.
The "stop doing things a certain way" i would argue that.... unless you ARE doing specifically a comic book design and that's where your passion is at, AVOIDING black shading starting out will actually be of a major benefit since it teaches you when and where to use it. AVOIDING the airbrush starting out, same thing. There is NO SUCH THING as an art rule, however, as every figure drawing class and other professional artists have always said, "you have to KNOW the rules before you can break them."
To be specific:
The thing with "don't shade with black", specifically, they're not referring to the blocked in black on comics, and if they are, well, they're wrong. No, they're referring to when people use it to shade and then turn down the opacity. Rarely does that work well, unless the piece is black and white specifically.
And for the airbrush, it's mostly just the overreliance that's the problem. It's excellent for a final gradient effect, as you mentioned, or the opposite: adding a soft lighting
And this last one is for anyone who asks for art advice or doesn't know how to give it and gets stumped, ask specific questions. What do you want to get OUT of art? Studying, instead of just practicing, is probably more important. Study what you want to draw, and then when you try to learn how to do it and don't know how an artist does [thing], maybe ask about that, specifically. There is no such thing as art style theft [unless it's AI.🖕to ai.] so learn however is easiest for you.
Just remember, learning by tracing is ok [especially if it's for the sake of learning anatomy], posting it online isn't.
What i love about this channel is the "beginner friendly" and acceptance of the fact that not everyone want to draw advanced things, posture, characters, movement or anatomy. Sometimes we're cool with a style or somethings and we don't want to go anywhere else too much. It's not my case, but it's quite refreshing to see.
Also, practive is kinda the LEVEL 1 of advice, there's a lot of cool way you can practice, with reference, analyzing and reproduce art you love, trying new methods, even "tracing" to improve (this one is kinda tricky with a lot of warning but i find it very efficient to do)
seeing ppl draw the same characters over n over for a long period of time is a rlly good way to see clearly how their art improves over time- coming from someone who follows a bunch of fandom artists that draws the same lil characters again n again lol
When newer people ask for advice, I always ask what they want to achieve with their style. Cartoon-like styles require different tweaks and critique than realism. So things like “learn the rules before you break them” is (unfortunately) almost required if you want to draw realism, but if you’re perfectly fine with drawing with unrealistic proportions then I won’t give that advice.
Anyways here’s some actually decent advice that I don’t see people giving a lot
1. If you’re a digital artist, it’s good to use a grey background when drawing. Using white can make colors appear lighter or darker than they actually are and can be preventing you from getting the look you want.
2. Try to learn foreshortening. It’s fine if you don’t want to, but you can make some pretty sick poses with it.
3. Experiment! Change things up for a drawing, you might find something you love! Example- I used a brush I’d never touched before on a piece once just for fun, and now it’s one of my favorite brushes.
4. Draw what makes you happy. If you keep trying to do art trends you might become burnt out or get art block. (This doesn’t mean to never do art trends, it just means to do whatever you want and not what an algorithm wants. )
5. Please for the love of all that is holy stop using google images for references. Use Pinterest if you have it, if not then there are lots of websites out there with amazing references.
this is great advice! i usually use a gray background (or a little more reddish) but not so gray that i cant see my sketch bc i like sketching in full red because im weird and my brain itches when i dont but yeah it helped a lot!
oh! and i think my trouble with "know the rules before you break them" isn't that it's necessarily bad advice, it just implies that to draw cartoon art or to exaggerate/change proportions you need to fully know how to draw them realistically, which isn't true and is also kind of demotivating because a beginner might feel like "to draw cartoon you have to learn realism" and get uninspired since that wasn't what they were interested in to begin with
learning realism, practicing some types of realism, or just figuring out how things realistically look WILL help you for cartoon art, but it isn't a requirement, and you CAN break "rules" if you really want to without knowing every little thing about them.
for realism yes you do though ahaha! but if that's what you WANT to learn then it'll be fun :3c
also omg pinterest is the best, its ALWAYS my go to when i want references or just any inspiration if i dont know what to draw
On the references thing, I have a bit of advice, Sometimes I will draw poses that nobody has a ref for, in that case here's what I did to make my own: I don't have a camera but you know what I do have? A phone with a decent one!
Use that in combination with one of those tripod stick things that hold up phones and badda bing baby, I got one of those sticks for like 20, yes it's sometimes annoying to find a spot to put the thing that get's the shots I wants but hey, cheaper than a legit camera.
Lost me at the 5th one
just now this vid has made me realized that my style wasnt bad (well i mean it was) but that my friend was kinda rude for saying my art was goofy because i gave my art big eyes when i hadnt asked for it in the first place 💀
bruh fr i just enjoy experimenting shapes of art for fun, i don't find any points to say a person should have 'THAT' artstyle, like you don't know what the artist just tryna express overall. drawing suppose to be fun huh?
hey if any of yall reading this is an artist, don't overload yourself with 'absolute correct' advices whoever anyone said to you, draw what you wanna draw :)
I've never really liked airbrush shading although I love using the airbrush for lighting because of how glowy and soft it looks.
Thank for the art style thing, I draw so exaggerated that every person I draw is either ridiculously beautiful or ridiculously ugly, and people tell me I draw women with unrealistic proportions. Like, I know!
Think you for bringing this up your advice is extremely helpful
I just came across this channel earlier. Even if it may seem some videos don’t get that much views there will be people who come back for every upload. I plan on watching more later as well^^
what im most afraid of is someone telling me my art style (in more ways than one) is unoriginal and that im a copycat because i took a ton of inspiration from an artist i really like. ive been trying to do different things with it and change it to be a little more original, but its difficult. i feel like a lot of finding my style has been taking different aspects from other art styles and putting them into mine like a weird soup and im really worried about being called a thief or something because of it TvT
I feel like the best response to a question like "do you have any art tips?" or "how do you draw so well" is to say something along the lines of "practice, but you should try to practice new things -- a lot of artists will also look at other's art and take elements they like from them and turn it into their own thing, and it's really helpful to practice using references. I also find that it's best to try to break down images into more simple shapes. If you have anything you need help with specifically, I'll be able to help you better." That's just what I try to say at least, I hate saying "just practice" because it's super unhelpful, even if it's all I can think to say lol
3:19 I'm so happy that someone else said this, because I heard so many people give this advice and I only recently realized how bad it was (for me). I want to be able to draw little comics to tell a story, not draw realistic and eye-catching standalone pieces. This advice made me completely lose my motivation, and I gave up for a bit because it just felt like a chore
Since i never heard anyone say "don't use references" but always "use references" it kinda annoys me
Yes, i know you can use references
Do i use them? No bc i forget to
Same with flip the canvas advice
I know it helps but i also forget to do that
what art program do you use??
The final advice: you like art as a hobbie? Congrats! You can draw whatever you want in the style you want knowing that you're free of any kinf of forced improvement because it's a hobbie and not a job!
You want to live throught your art? That's where thinks turns out complicated. The "fastest" way to learn It's going to art school (more precisely to Ilustration). The second way it's looking by the information by your own like you was in School. It's not impossible but is way more slower if you doesn't have the discipline for it. It also can conclude in receive the bad tips on this video and not improve at all during a time ._.
Just practice is the dumbest statement ever. You could be drawing for 6 years and it would still look bad. I think your average artist's projection is that they think everyone draws from reference.
4:14 especially nsfw