I bought a $37K running IndyCar engine. I shouldn't own this

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  • @F14Goose37
    @F14Goose37 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2268

    "We're going to have one video on every major component because" we just spent $37,000 on an engine amd we have to pay for it. Say no more Rob. I will enjoy every one. These are the kinds of details us mere mortals will never get to see unless somebody like you makes a huge investment and shows us. I am glad you did and I hope you earn that money back in spades. You are the kind of guy on TH-cam that is easy to root for. Big smile and no drama with others.

    • @watermelon58
      @watermelon58 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      thats why im patreon i just find in a tiny way this epic stuff and get to see the long vods

    • @chanceedwards6882
      @chanceedwards6882 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Completely forgot about that

    • @Johndouglasphillips
      @Johndouglasphillips 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I am so pumped for this. that mechanical throttle body that is built in under the intake is already mind blowing.

    • @Ferrari255GTO
      @Ferrari255GTO 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Man, im so done with the BS drama people pull all the time. I hope thoose bastards get legally forced off the platform forever.

    • @nickconkle
      @nickconkle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Hell yeah! Well said, this video should be in every motorhead/enthusiasts recommended

  • @MrMinemadness
    @MrMinemadness 3 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    Lifting a 37k indy car motor with with the Harbor Freight 199.99 special. Rob Dahm you are my people.

  • @raidkoast
    @raidkoast 3 ปีที่แล้ว +220

    IF you had an LS swap in the indy, I'd be mad.
    But an actual Cosworth engine? That's a religious racing relic right there.

    • @trillrifaxegrindor4411
      @trillrifaxegrindor4411 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      your opinion is important..........AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

    • @raidkoast
      @raidkoast 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@trillrifaxegrindor4411 Pot called the kettle black, eh?

    • @TravisFabel
      @TravisFabel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you're modding the Indy car for the street.. LS. For the track and you have the cash? THIS is the way to go.

    • @YouilAushana
      @YouilAushana 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cosworth??!! say no more.

    • @raidkoast
      @raidkoast 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TravisFabel Rather see a Ford 289 HiPo or FE engine in it if you don't have a Cosworth.
      LS is so damn over used in everything..
      Like, I know America seems to have an obsession with Chevy and LS but come on. The US has some other interesting manufacturers too.

  • @allenl9031
    @allenl9031 3 ปีที่แล้ว +207

    Rob, it will go very fast, here's why. That big stainless disc on top of the intake manifold is where the CART mandated blow off valve would be located. Boost limited by series rules. You, on the other hand, get to run all the boost!

    • @jsquared1013
      @jsquared1013 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      But don't forget that the engine was also designed with that boost limit in mind, and from what I remember, CART didn't have the "engine needs to last X races or a grid penalty" like F1 has these days...

    • @EricGoesToShopClass
      @EricGoesToShopClass 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@jsquared1013 exactly. The danger is blowing up what is essentially, a bespoke engine, designed to be precisely at the limit of what was allowed under those rules and restrictors (and restrictions).
      This isn't a rotary you have a bunch of parts for. You have to make every part you wreck.
      So I hope Rob has a very good idea of the math for this engine if he's going to change any of the major variables. These engines were bleeding edge engineering that were designed to run very short and very hard lives as they were.

    • @RubenRodriguez-iw7gv
      @RubenRodriguez-iw7gv 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/zVqe07QntlI/w-d-xo.html that is explained here (around 24 min) , great insight of what was indycar in 96.

    • @GB-vn1tf
      @GB-vn1tf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      True, but because of that the motor will go bang very quickly if you take it beyond what it is designed to do. F1 used to have qualifying engines that lasted around 30 miles before blowing up, that's 12 times 2 mile laps to qualify then a race engine was put in. A BMW 4 cylinder turbo qualifying engine was reputed to hit 1500hp.....in the 1980s.

  • @carnagefpv8256
    @carnagefpv8256 3 ปีที่แล้ว +435

    I'm blown away. I've always wondered what would happen if someone did this since that era was one of the best for American open wheel as far as the cars go. Really happy to see you taking this project on😎👍

    • @viper2131
      @viper2131 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Those engines are missed for sure but the current indycar series has some of the best racing there is on the planet.

    • @allothernamesbutthis
      @allothernamesbutthis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you should watch F1 Supra maybe rob will meet up with ryan when both are complete?

    • @computiNATEor
      @computiNATEor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      CART cars from the mid to late 90s were absolute monsters. My absolute favorite race cars, bar none.

    • @FunkyFresh48
      @FunkyFresh48 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@computiNATEor Those were the best years! Long beach GP was a blast back then!

    • @TheUsmc0802
      @TheUsmc0802 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Living my dream man! Congratulations!!!

  • @davidharrison8762
    @davidharrison8762 3 ปีที่แล้ว +273

    There's a blast from my past! I used to test these at cosworth circa 1997, in fact it was the first engine I blew up on the dyno. (I did a proper job too, huge hole in the dry sump) it was a development engine and was right at the end of its ft life and due a rebuild. 2.6l if I recall producing 820bhp. I'll deffo stay tuned to see how you get on.

    • @Melanie16040
      @Melanie16040 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You wouldn't happen to recall what sort of compression ratios these engines run would you? I saw someone mention they should make in the neighborhood of 600hp N/A without any modifications to the internals. Does that sound right to you?

    • @davidharrison8762
      @davidharrison8762 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Not sure, I did a stint in the F1 engine shop and they were about 12:1 but non turbo and not on methanol.

    • @Melanie16040
      @Melanie16040 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @CanadaFirstchatt twentyseven Guessing Dave will be by soon to give his answer, but since the engine is built to be a structural member of the vehicle and lacks the typical area one would attach motor mounts, it would be extremely difficult to put this into anything else... One would need essentially design a vehicle around the motor. Entitled possibly, as I recall the F50 has its motor mounted as a structural member, but not a simple "Hey Jumbo, let's put that motor in yet Corvette! It'll sound so cool!" type job. Hey Dave, how far off base am I?

    • @bilaltariq7819
      @bilaltariq7819 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @CanadaFirstchatt twentyseven the problem isn’t that it’s a structural member, you could just make adapters for mounting it onto another car, but if it’s a race engine it’ll be hard to drive on the street and need a rebuild after x number of hours, it would probably need to run race fuel, have bad low end response and power, misfire, etc etc

    • @thomgt4
      @thomgt4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@bilaltariq7819 You're right, they're not designed for a street application. Not just that though, a true race engine may not even turn when it's cold. It's not uncommon to have to heat an engine before starting it, totally awesome in a street car :p. Rebuild every couple 10s of hours is annoying as well

  • @blkblur194
    @blkblur194 3 ปีที่แล้ว +592

    I LOVE THE SCENE of rob in the Indy car acting like he’s driving it ❤️

    • @estebanmatias92
      @estebanmatias92 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Best production of the year right there

    • @MrJermbob
      @MrJermbob 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I cant get past the go pro mount that will stab him in the temple if he crashed in that imaginary scene. haha.

    • @knavekid
      @knavekid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I can picture Isaiah with a flashlight moving the light beam over the car for the full effect!

    • @johnsnow1355
      @johnsnow1355 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We all did that at some point as kids ha ha

    • @eliotechcps6gaming
      @eliotechcps6gaming 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Iam watting to see it in this vs that when is ready

  • @richardholdener1727
    @richardholdener1727 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    HEY ROB-HOW ABOUT LET'S GET TOGETHER AND DYNO SOME TURBO ROTARY STUFF ON THE ENGINE DYNO! BRIDGE PORTS, PERIPHERAL PORTS, INTAKE RUNNER LENGTH AND DIFFERENT SIZE TURBOS! LET ME KNOW.

    • @marxkartredge
      @marxkartredge 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      We need to see this guys!!

    • @ufarkingicehole
      @ufarkingicehole 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You are a mad man!! Hope this happens!

    • @jamesperry1944
      @jamesperry1944 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The world needs this.

    • @damons6759
      @damons6759 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do it.

  • @lexus_offroad_adventures
    @lexus_offroad_adventures 3 ปีที่แล้ว +205

    Golden age engine. Surprised Rob isn’t gonna try to rotary swap it lol

    • @RobDahm
      @RobDahm  3 ปีที่แล้ว +170

      I actually am. But i want to resto mod it first. Learn how it should drive and handle. Improve as a driver while learning everything i can to apply to the AWD 4 rotor... Then rotary swap it haha But thats to test my billet engines

    • @HumbleHonkingEnthusiast
      @HumbleHonkingEnthusiast 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@RobDahm mad man

    • @dynabro4053
      @dynabro4053 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@RobDahm double the content 👌👏 lovely idea. Is this getting the 6 rotor????

    • @greytheneko5351
      @greytheneko5351 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Balkan Kneecap thief might be a tad bit expensive... lol
      then again, i have no clue how much an Indy car costs

    • @helixwd739
      @helixwd739 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RobDahm whats the plan? Run it till it blows up then swap it or are you planning sooner than that?

  • @axelriet
    @axelriet 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    This is when you (finally?) realize the aftermarket is a good 30 years behind top-level motorsports. Now imagine a current F1 engine costs north of $10 millions 😌

  • @LionheartRacingSeries
    @LionheartRacingSeries 3 ปีที่แล้ว +451

    Let's get Richie Hearn to visit the shop and see his old ride. Maybe let him take it out on the track!

    • @RobDahm
      @RobDahm  3 ปีที่แล้ว +322

      He said he would when he’s free! He sent me a badass pic of this chassis ramming another car up against a wall haha

    • @bmfrandomness1565
      @bmfrandomness1565 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      @@RobDahm 😂🤣😂🤣 tell me you got it blown up to poster size and put it on a wall!? Haha

    • @LionheartRacingSeries
      @LionheartRacingSeries 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@RobDahm Hell yeah. He is the man. He actually sim races with us on iRacing in his spare time!

    • @2jzfox...
      @2jzfox... 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@RobDahm There is a 4 rotor race car in my city for sale. Comes with a extra 3 rotor motor and other goodies. 2 transmissions worth equal the value of what he's asking for the car.

    • @kodyadams1310
      @kodyadams1310 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@2jzfox... what city do you live in, asking for a friend

  • @TheIceholeCanadian
    @TheIceholeCanadian 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    "W-what are you doing step-4 rotor?"
    Ah, I see Rob is a man of culture.

  • @StephensonRaceTech
    @StephensonRaceTech 3 ปีที่แล้ว +577

    "Lets see how fast this can go" oh lord dude.... It started out doing 240mph in the straights. Improving? please use caution and methodically do it right. Contact me if you need pointers. Looking forward to this build! SO cool!

    • @Goblino.
      @Goblino. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +115

      Exactly Safety really needs to be on 110% for this. Those speeds are no joke, I wish him luck and safety in this insane build.

    • @ichoozjc
      @ichoozjc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      He's just making a burnout car to compete with the Aussies 😎

    • @ronbaer67
      @ronbaer67 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@ichoozjc i mean how many indy cars do you see doing sitting burnouts

    • @wingracer1614
      @wingracer1614 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@ronbaer67 All the time when Zanardi was in his prime

    • @thejman3489
      @thejman3489 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ronbaer67 The winner of almost every Indycar race

  • @dedpix3l
    @dedpix3l 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    "i shouldnt own this". Wrong, you if any should. I've never seen such a balls to the wall, mad mechanic like you. You deserve it!

    • @5naxalotl
      @5naxalotl 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes. it's a nice dream, but "biting off more than you can chew" for most people so nice to see someone else doing it

  • @joealex65
    @joealex65 3 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    WAIT WAIT WAIT! Rob Dahm BOUGHT a PISTON engine?! Who TF is this guy and where is the Dorito Daddy?! 😂😂

    • @RobDahm
      @RobDahm  3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      I love that sweet sweet screaming RPM and 260 Ft lbs of torque. haha no joke these make less torque than rotaries so im right at home

    • @joealex65
      @joealex65 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@RobDahm 😂😂😂 wouldn't expect anything less from you!

    • @Mp57navy
      @Mp57navy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RobDahm That's about as much as my 25 year old Land Cruiser. lmao.

  • @poolix1
    @poolix1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Watching you guys pore over this level of motor is super entertaining, the viewers of the TH-cam car community deserve to be exposed to just how high level motorsports can be,

  • @codyserr7331
    @codyserr7331 3 ปีที่แล้ว +277

    "we need a Indy car running, then we swap the motor out" only Rob would buy a near $40k engine just to swap it and learn from it. True business man and entrepreneur!!! Love you Rob!!

    • @jtpug777
      @jtpug777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      He is a gentleman and a scholar

    • @ryanc8188
      @ryanc8188 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      You would be surprised how much of that goes on in business. Competing companies will in a round about crazy paper trail way, buy something and reverse engineer it for them.

    • @karlhopkins713
      @karlhopkins713 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not to be that guy but, it's an indy car.... Learn grammar...

    • @suprasounds2163
      @suprasounds2163 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@karlhopkins713 Your statement is missing something... Learn grammar.

    • @Galf506
      @Galf506 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Another youtuber did a small video on this, I forgot his name sorry but he's a well know figure in building racecars and making educational racecar related videos. He points out how impossible it would be to make a regular rotary run on this, the clearance requirements are insane, everything is built pretty much for this engine, it's not just part of the chassis, it's part of how the car was designed, and these cars are designed with NO margins: weight balance, ground clearance, everything is balanced for this engine.

  • @draggonhedd
    @draggonhedd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Rob please get professionals involved with this project. Just...so it can work. Get procedures, get manuals, get whatever you can.

  • @chrisborns5972
    @chrisborns5972 3 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    1. Finally excited for one of your motors since the 4 rotor build!
    2. We want more crazy 4 rotor racing content.

    • @RobDahm
      @RobDahm  3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      I give a nice obvious hint to what’s been going on behind the scenes with the 4 rotor. 😂 you’ll love it. But yeah there are going to be some wild sounds coming from my shop soon

  • @erasmodemeo6167
    @erasmodemeo6167 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    What you’re looking at as far as the harness is aviation quality connectors they’re called cannon plugs and the pins have to be removed and or installed with specific tooling to seat properly and not damage the pins or receptacles (male and female ends) I hope this helps a bit …. Reach out to any A&P certified aircraft mechanic and they should be able to help out

    • @danmontie6367
      @danmontie6367 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Look for an avionics shop. If you can find one that works on small jets, you’ll strike gold. All mil-spec wiring, all of the tooling, everything. I can’t make any recommendations (my job has restrictions), but just look for a general aviation (non-airliner) airport near you, and see what you find.

    • @shaggy5586
      @shaggy5586 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I put these things in regularly….at a nuclear plant lol

    • @nzuncovered1845
      @nzuncovered1845 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I know them as CAN-bus connectors. We use them in sound and lighting equipment.

  • @henrysutulovich6608
    @henrysutulovich6608 3 ปีที่แล้ว +122

    Rob: I don't wanna do a bunch of fab work, just bought a COSSIE V8 to slap in and learn the chassis.
    Also Rob: proceeds to weld and fab an angle iron frame..... just to take the engine out of it's shipping crate....

    • @iloveangrysheepsex2811
      @iloveangrysheepsex2811 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Cossie. Not cozy. Stop butchering the English language please. Cozy is something my 3 year old daughter says when she's all snuggled up in her blanket on the couch.
      It's even spelt "cossie" in the original grand theft auto.

    • @henrysutulovich6608
      @henrysutulovich6608 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@iloveangrysheepsex2811 my deepest and most sincere apologies. I fixed the spelling error, please don't let it affect my grade.....

    • @iloveangrysheepsex2811
      @iloveangrysheepsex2811 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@henrysutulovich6608 it's sacrilege to the cossie. You'd get hung, drawn and quarterd for that in the UK 🇬🇧

    • @henrysutulovich6608
      @henrysutulovich6608 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@iloveangrysheepsex2811 🥺😭 I said I was sorry....

    • @kirkc9643
      @kirkc9643 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@iloveangrysheepsex2811 One of my closest friends here in Australia is from the UK and every time she speaks I find it hard to believe you guys actually invented English :-P

  • @benlyons7752
    @benlyons7752 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Those cannon plugs are impressive. They have been used in aviation. Mechanical security plus safety wired. Very cool Rob.

  • @konstantingoodbrother860
    @konstantingoodbrother860 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Rob I'm watching your channel since the prehistoric age and right now it gets too interesting, just blows my mind how cool next series are going to be. Thank you from all my heart and please just dont stop

  • @MattyEngland
    @MattyEngland 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    There is a great book called 'Cosworth' by a guy called Graham Robson. It has the whole story of cosworth, along with all the tech details from nearly all the engines from the 1970's to the late 1990s

    • @tezzrterry7485
      @tezzrterry7485 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This Cosworth was already very old tech, by F1 standards, when it arrived in Indy cars. Rob will learn a lot.

  • @nottherealjk
    @nottherealjk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    You've come a long long long way Rob. Love seeing what you're doing here! Way ahead of the game and doing everything right.

  • @themadscientest
    @themadscientest 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I know the feeling of getting an individually numbered racing engine in a nice box delivered to your door. My engine may be down 7 pots on this one and it may not need any wiring harness, but it was hand built in the UK to exacting specs so it's essentially a Cossie!

  • @joshpittman2939
    @joshpittman2939 3 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    Oh boy gotta see a dyno run for the engine when it IDLES at 9k rpm

    • @ProModsPerformance
      @ProModsPerformance 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      They should idle around 3500-4000. Especially with modern injectors. Our current cars are around 3-3500

    • @joshpittman2939
      @joshpittman2939 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@ProModsPerformance well the only reason I say that is because I saw a TH-cam video for a engine very similar to that idle at 9000 rpm

    • @randallmason9687
      @randallmason9687 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      You are thinking of Formula 1 engines. They have pneumatic valve springs. The engines were kept at a high rpm to keep the air pressure up.

    • @joshpittman2939
      @joshpittman2939 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@randallmason9687 oh my fault

    • @EarrGasmm
      @EarrGasmm 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joshpittman2939 Yeah these don't really hold a candle to the simialr era F1 V8s. 18,000rpm redline vs the indy 12,000.

  • @89vette89
    @89vette89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You know he’s fully lost it when he said “learn and improve on” while talking about a fucking Indy car engine

  • @oc1rob
    @oc1rob 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    A friend of mine may very well have machined the heads on that engine. Used to work at the Cosworth factory here in Northampton, UK in the late 90s.. Specifically on the Indy Car engines!

  • @Gynotai
    @Gynotai 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Now THAT’s an engine! Holy cow!
    After seeing what one looked like, it’s easy to see why it’s so pricey.
    Best of luck with it, mate!

  • @neoanderson7
    @neoanderson7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    Seeing these suckers run here in my home town was always an event. Loved being able to walk thru the paddock and see them work on these works of art. Being able to speak to the crew and even the drivers was icing on the cake. Always enjoyed the Molson Indy! 👏🏻
    Well done Rob! 👍🏻

  • @PurpleDinoRhino
    @PurpleDinoRhino 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh shit OD, I'm a technician for their shop in Indy, sick.

  • @Sun-ut9gr
    @Sun-ut9gr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Oh man, Amphenol connectors. Get ready to spend some (more) money, Rob! Those connectors are billet CNC machined and plated for your pleasure, but they are also stupid expensive and _require_ expensive tools to open/close them. That main connector is about $500 alone 🤩
    Keep all of them! You can get everything for them and can rebuild them easily. It's all MIL-Spec stuff too so you might be able to find used tools on the cheap

  • @eclipsegst9419
    @eclipsegst9419 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Race engines are amazing. The difference in build quality between even an older one and a modern car is, well, sad honestly, planned obsolescence is real.

  • @mountainofmangos
    @mountainofmangos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    oh boy 2 back to back videos... man we're in for a treat this week

  • @kevinhuber8723
    @kevinhuber8723 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lets see how fast it will actually go? I'm very impressed. I have been around Indy Cars pretty much all my life. This is a "nice piece of kit"

  • @henrysutulovich6608
    @henrysutulovich6608 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Rob: "I don't always buy a V-8... but when I do.... it's a $37k Indy engine that will Rev to 11,500 rpm"

  • @mk3amar
    @mk3amar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rob "that is certainly going to hold that". Aka that ain't going no where. Lol

  • @frick4185
    @frick4185 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Meanwhile, I'm dreaming of rotary swapping a Miata 😂. A lot of progress Is being made at your shop and I'm just enjoying the ride. Keep it up man.

    • @JD-eo7dr
      @JD-eo7dr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've always wished the Miata (MX5 over here) was a RX5 from factory

  • @1gearwrench
    @1gearwrench 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So... As a Master Machinist and Auto/Diesel and Transmission Tech. Listening to Rob Dahm try to get technical or talk like he knows anything about anything he's looking at is like Fingernails on a Chalkboard. Who watches this guy is what I wanna know??? First time watching this channel for me. Am i missing something? Or is this just satire?

  • @jacquescrusan9500
    @jacquescrusan9500 3 ปีที่แล้ว +158

    Rob, I know that these were turbocharged V8's, and I'd never bother to change something drastically, but god damn would I love having an 8-1 header feeding a single turbo. That sound would be incredible. But either way, have fun with what you're doing.

    • @br1_deadpedal
      @br1_deadpedal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      It is 8 into 1 turbo lol

    • @RobDahm
      @RobDahm  3 ปีที่แล้ว +124

      It actually was an 8 to 1 turbo like bruno mentioned. hard to see because the turbo is mounted inside of the transmssion cage area. itll be so sick

    • @wingracer1614
      @wingracer1614 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@RobDahm At one time one of the manufacturers played around with single sided turbo for Michigan. Basically they just had one bank of four driving the turbo with the other side straight exhaust. Actually made a bit more power but took so long to spool they were dead in the water if they had to lift for traffic.

    • @kobotherobohobo
      @kobotherobohobo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I personally want to hear it N/A with a full titanium exhaust 🤤

    • @wh0reb0t
      @wh0reb0t 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@br1_deadpedal Does he mean equal length?

  • @CoyoteFTW
    @CoyoteFTW 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ford Cosworth was the most dominating engine in Formula one history. Ford was going to introduce the SOHC engine to nascar who banned it because they suck and said the engine was too exotic. Ford later got into formula one with Keith. The design of the Ford’s SOHC is in the DFV now sprinkle a little bit of the Duckworth in there and you have now a legendary engine.

  • @dilanorrino3224
    @dilanorrino3224 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Rob buying a non-rotary engine? Are you okay?

    • @ScottKenny1978
      @ScottKenny1978 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think he's sick... Maybe very high on Humboldt County's finest.

  • @hansdietrich83
    @hansdietrich83 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These Deutsch Connectors migjt cost 60$ a pop, but they are insanely sturdy. They could probably take a direct bullet hit and still work

  • @Johnwalter1044
    @Johnwalter1044 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Two things. This channel is and always will be amazing. That ad segment is perfect. xD

  • @willythewave
    @willythewave 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    And we never heard another word about it.

  • @joshrepik
    @joshrepik 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Dude I cannot wait to continue watching you dig into this engine and it’s technology. Holy shit bro

  • @erniemathews5085
    @erniemathews5085 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Only 37 grand? I'll just give up everything except eating- piece of cake!

  • @ProModsPerformance
    @ProModsPerformance 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Happy to see you unveil it! Offer is open if you have any questions. -IndyCar electrical engineer

    • @RobDahm
      @RobDahm  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      If you come across a pinout diagram for that engine or harness id love you forever. haha about to dig into pinning it out

    • @ProModsPerformance
      @ProModsPerformance 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@RobDahm 10-4. Talking with some folks this weekend in Long Beach about the original engine management. Early signs point to a Delphi based system but apparently there were options back then. Let me know if you find any branding/part numbers on any of the loom labels

  • @ghostindamachine
    @ghostindamachine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First I thought Rob will do the Keeps Hair Promotion because of the shot at: 1:20 but nope, you got us :-D

  • @relatabl0
    @relatabl0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    No way, I am already thinking about how Rob will improve the performance of his rotary builds simply by learning from the Cosworth. Rob, with your ingenuity, I am excited to see what the future holds.

  • @Kintizen
    @Kintizen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now you just need a V8 Hayabusa. Then you have Holy Grail Trinity of TH-cam builds.

  • @aserta
    @aserta 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Excellent choice to step up the learning curve speed. These engines are relatively cheap and easy to understand at your level, and they're old dog tech. There's no unknowns with these. At the same time, this engine takes a large broccoli infused dump on most engines today in terms of quality and superior build methodologies, stuff you'll no doubt, as you said, be able to implement in the rotor, thus pushing it even higher.

  • @iDropPhats
    @iDropPhats 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You’re absolutely right, it’s nuts how this engine from nearly 20 years ago is more complex and more advanced than even the most technologically masterful engine in any road car to date. The only engine that could surpass it will be the W07-derived power unit from the AMG Project One, and that might not even take the cake because it’s so detuned from the racing motor. 2nd place is even debatable, I’d say even the Cosworth v12 from the Valkyrie isn’t as well-engineered as this motor. Those racing engines are just on another level, so much so that even an experienced mechanic such as as yourself is baffled by its complexity!

    • @brandonmullins7406
      @brandonmullins7406 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Idk there's alotttta roadcars out there with souped up v12s

  • @JorgeMartinez-iq2tc
    @JorgeMartinez-iq2tc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Would freaking love too see this running at a track like Laguna Seca.

    • @octane613
      @octane613 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      These indy cars were made to go blisteringly fast in an oval. They don't have the downforce or suspension capabilities of a formula car.

    • @MyLonewolf25
      @MyLonewolf25 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@octane613 Indy does a LOT more than just oval…

    • @wingracer1614
      @wingracer1614 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@octane613 This exact car raced at Laguna Seca in 1997.

  • @markmezo
    @markmezo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Isaiah “The Fab Daddy” will have the challenge of his life with that exhaust manifold. 😁

  • @Scott9181970
    @Scott9181970 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jebas. Barrel throttles incorporated directly into the intake side of the cylinder heads, that's wild

  • @rafaleja5839
    @rafaleja5839 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Imagine if it had Freevalve

  • @The_TIP
    @The_TIP 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What song was that in the background right after the kove ad read? While you were welding - It was great

  • @xthelord1668
    @xthelord1668 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    good choice going with cosworth
    these dudes made one of best rally cars in peak rally times
    so that V8 should be way better than any junk LS since it was built by a legendary racing team

    • @Goblino.
      @Goblino. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Cant go wrong with really anything cosworth puts out, beautiful engines inside and out

    • @augustwatring888
      @augustwatring888 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cosworth had actually been in the Indycar game since the 1970s with the Cosworth DFX, the predecessor to this engine. It was basically the defacto engine until Penske came in with the Ilmor Chevys and blew everyone away.

    • @CoyoteFTW
      @CoyoteFTW 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@augustwatring888 - eh if you didn’t call this one the DFV a Ford don’t call the other one a Chevy either buddy. Although Ford and Cosworth engineers were already working together all the way back to the 50’s. Ford had a big part in the design of the DFV. They had built a 7.0l one called the SOHC. I have the book on the development of the engine:

    • @jonnyj.
      @jonnyj. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CoyoteFTW Um... the dfv is literally all cosworth. Ford had absolutely NOTHING to do with it aside from financing it. Same as with literally all of cosworth's top level race engines in f1 and cart/indycar. Only their road engines had anything to do with ford. Same as ilmor...

  • @MarshyhHarris
    @MarshyhHarris 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is this not like other race engines that will need rebuilding after a few races? With a price that high I’d be dreading the rebuild cost.

  • @demonic477
    @demonic477 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    unless it came with one the flywheel on that engine uses a carbon on carbon dual or 4 disk clutch . that's the same diameter as the flywheel it's small to match the clutch pack because the carbon clutches are insane at torque transfer and can take 5 times the force the engine puts out . think of it as an insanely good thing in an insanely small package it may help you get over the sticker shock when you price one of the clutch kits for this engine . I'm sorry I have to tell you this but there also Insanely expensive and the engine will have to have one to work it's what it was designed to use . I'm not going to name a particular sight but you can find web sights in England that still have these engines for sale all day long and in some cases you can get this same engine for between 10.000 and 40.000 dollars with all the spares and some sellers will throw in little extras to sweeten the deal just to move these out of there shops .they also have the transmissions the rear sections, all the linkages and fuel systems for these and the 6 cylinder Cosworth engines that were also engine regulated out they sell them as well .I never had the cash to get one but I can still look.

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      @bradleypowell5822 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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      @Johnpaul-j8e 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @nivlac_dj6327
    @nivlac_dj6327 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This is sick I cant wait to see the rest of this build

    • @shona5512
      @shona5512 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      RemindMe! 6 years from now.

    • @worthlessreactor
      @worthlessreactor 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shona5512 you're being super optimistic there,lol

    • @RobDahm
      @RobDahm  3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      haha the reason i got the cosworth was to speed up the build and shit my pants driving it. Realistically i want to get it running by the end of the year.

  • @amosdominguez699
    @amosdominguez699 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I DONT CARE WHAT EVERYONE ELSE IS DONING BUT ROB IS ON ANOTHER LEVEL 🏎🏎

  • @arthur_boi
    @arthur_boi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Dear Rob, your channels' quality is another level. Every single video of yours is incredible. And I am happy for you for your new engine :)

  • @issacdaniels942
    @issacdaniels942 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Three words FORD COSWORTH PERFORMANCE

  • @reddevil944
    @reddevil944 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I hope whoever sees this is having or will have a good day

  • @Red6er
    @Red6er 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Rob: buys $37K engine.
    Also Rob: uses $209 Harbor Freight engine hoist to lift $37K engine.
    Pumped for the new project!

  • @dundrialbuels1941
    @dundrialbuels1941 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Proud of ya rob....you're doing the Midwestern mitten a good justice

  • @23ofSeptember
    @23ofSeptember 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cosworth yup! I used to own a 2.3 16valve.

  • @aksfactory
    @aksfactory 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Rob i'd strongly recommend looking into borg warner turbos instead of garrett, there's a very detailed 2 part video where a guy compares the two in super detail and to be quite frank garrett turbos haven't changed much since the t-rex roamed this planet, even the G series.

    • @wannabecarguy
      @wannabecarguy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I run borg.

    • @kapiesmieszek
      @kapiesmieszek 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Isn't he sponsored by garrett?

    • @jacobm2625
      @jacobm2625 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kapiesmieszek he is 😂😂

    • @danielnelson4881
      @danielnelson4881 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Wouldn't they be falling behind, like immeasurably, if they hadn't changed in forever? With all of the advancements in turbos over the last 20 years, how would Garrett be as big of a company as it is if their turbos were sub par? Big turbos used to take FOREVER to spool not even that long ago...
      They must be changing something that this video of yours didn't touch on, because I know the Garrett's aren't still spooling like a big turbo Supra in the late 90's. Link this video of yours if you don't mind Mr. Head of Borg Warners marketing division! I'm on to you... 😑

    • @teotudor9304
      @teotudor9304 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@danielnelson4881 No, its true, EFR turbos are more efficient than what garret has to offer. Not saying garret is trash, but if you are looking for just a bit more you go Borg Warner

  • @Staniel_
    @Staniel_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “i was super comfortable BUYING this engine, now i’m not”

  • @wizardofhyd
    @wizardofhyd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wow Rob I’m still trying to wrap my head around the engineering of that intake manifold. Looking forward to seeing more!

  • @alejandropadilla3511
    @alejandropadilla3511 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Considering the history and pedigree of this engine, i don't think it'd be wise to push it too hard, especially considering that any rebuild because of its rarity is going to be near impossible. This engine was made with older technology and by design also very tied to it. Could be wrong but anything too hard and it'll be a shame to see an engine like that go...

    • @wingracer1614
      @wingracer1614 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are people still building these things and making or sourcing parts for them. Hell people still vintage race them. It ain't cheap though. And they aren't all that rare. I mean there are 33 cars in an Indy 500 field usually and every one of them goes through at least 3 or 4 engines over the month and that's just one race. It's not like it's the infamous Ilmor Mercedes that only had like a dozen or so ever built.

  • @byronparker3708
    @byronparker3708 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    That little scene of Rob sitting in the car and racing was actually so good. felt like I was watching a movie. Looking forward to what this car is going to turn into and we'll be tuning in every step of the way

    • @ayougo
      @ayougo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where does he find the sound scores for these? haha

  • @malaslah8171
    @malaslah8171 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thought you will put a rotary but still a good engines bro

  • @Floperatorreaper
    @Floperatorreaper 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Finally, a youtuber that goes away from ls and lt engines. Thank you for keeping the content fresh!

    • @danielnelson4881
      @danielnelson4881 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I mean this is completely different territory here lol. This isn't drive on the road, drive all the time for content, or anything like that kind of material.. This is like drive it once and then realize you have neither the time nor the cash to keep rebuilding this thing so you park it for a couple years... Kind of stuff. I mean not even in the same ballpark. You could have commented this on someone's airplane restoration video and it would have been just as out of place as it is here lol.

    • @jonnyj.
      @jonnyj. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@danielnelson4881 Um... how does that relate to literally ANYTHING op said? TH-camrs that never do ls/lt engines are such a rare sight on youtube, and almost everyone here is thankful that rob never does stuff with such repetitive, overdone content.
      Absolutely fucking nothing in your comment makes any sense at all. Maybe gain some reading comprehension to understand what people write better lol

  • @DrewJackson73
    @DrewJackson73 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Day 1 of comment about Hercules 502

  • @mikebiron7339
    @mikebiron7339 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is NOT an "Indy Car". Once again, it is a "Champ Car". Big difference for this year car. The two divisions were separate and Champ Cars were way more advanced. Indy Car was barely hanging on doing only ovals with old cars and tech. Champ Cars were the shit. Even the movie "Driven", was filmed during this car's time with the best drivers in the world. History is important. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champ_Car_World_Series

    • @TheFoyer13
      @TheFoyer13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's not correct. That's a CART car. Champcar wasn't a thing until 2004.

  • @AMLxalex
    @AMLxalex 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nobody wonders, but Kove speakers suck

  • @froopty1854
    @froopty1854 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    LS swap would have been cool, swapping this engine into another car would have been absolutely epic.

  • @racetune
    @racetune 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow the level of engineering and weight saving is next level.
    The barrel based throttle bodies are very very cool. I'd like to know how they managed to properly seal it under boost pressure on partial throttle!

    • @Tactical300
      @Tactical300 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Conventional shaft seals are typically good up to 100psi, and easily up to 50 psi. Nothing special even for the Methanol (Viton is probably the most relatively available formulation for the o-ring or shaft seal). I believe these motors were running roundabout 20-25 psi tops on boost, per the rules, which means all the blowoff valve cheating meant they were probably seeing 30-40 tops. (Part time race engineer, full time mechanical engineer)

  • @jamesryan9493
    @jamesryan9493 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    All of this looks like aviation connectors which is something I've always wanted to do to a build. So cool to see this!

  • @iP3RFEKTIONoO
    @iP3RFEKTIONoO 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Next video: INDY CAR ENGINGE IN RX7 FD

  • @chumleyk
    @chumleyk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    THIS IS MORE LIKE IT. MORE INDYCAR PLEASE ROB

  • @turnip5359
    @turnip5359 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thought that was the sexy speaker for a moment

  • @charlesnienhouse9517
    @charlesnienhouse9517 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Haha! You crack me up. I was in the Ilmor Engineering shop in 1998 (23 years ago!) and everything was machined on CNC. Ilmor designs and builds the Chevy (and previously the Mercedes and Honda) Indycar engines. FWIW, CNC dates back to the 1950's when paper punch tape was used to load the programs!

  • @MountainGoatSolid
    @MountainGoatSolid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rob did you say “there’s so many things that I can’t BRAP my brain around” 😂

  • @CarLoverPhotography
    @CarLoverPhotography 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now you can make all the replacement parts

  • @Juan-du3ic
    @Juan-du3ic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pls dont put it in the indicar, put the 6 rotor

  • @Biowolf626
    @Biowolf626 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “I was uncomfortable buying this and now I’m not” fuck yeah

  • @michaelcarter3149
    @michaelcarter3149 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love watching your videos Rob! You're excitement to learn new things is amazing along with the info you share! Plus you embody the fact that we can learn to do anything with time, effort and dedication.

  • @petrsindler1525
    @petrsindler1525 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When you are done “learning about the chassis” swap that sob in a miata!

  • @vasopel
    @vasopel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cosworth XD: 2,650cc V8. Comes with all ancillaries. Can be run as intended on methanol with turbo 850+ bhp or naturally aspirated at 600bhp on pump fuel . Max revs 14,000rpm. Lifetime between rebuilds circa 1500 miles (2,400km)

  • @jonathanmartins7744
    @jonathanmartins7744 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We need to hear more about the history of this engine!

  • @Digital-Dan
    @Digital-Dan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In all the years I have been watching open wheel racing, nobody has ever given me as close a look at an engine for one at this level of detail. I had no idea how much different and more competent so many of the parts of this engine are than the street motor. Even though this is now 20+ years old, it is still a revelation. I'd love to have this level of visibility to a modern F1 power unit. Nice going.

  • @stevemcalister1912
    @stevemcalister1912 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Holy shit man you're living my dream... I was watching indycar in 94 (I think) when Mansell won his first season with a Cosworth... I CANT BELIEVE U HAVE AN INDYCAR IN YOUR GARAGE 😍😍😍😍

  • @vdfritzz
    @vdfritzz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you getting this exotic racing engine reminded me of initial D when takumi's father also bought a racing engine, a 4 cylinder though

  • @spankyalverson8469
    @spankyalverson8469 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    WTF ? "You you just can't have an engine doing 11 - 14,000 RPM and not have the valves float' ? Obviously this dude has never heard of or been in the vicinity of a modern High Performance motorcycle ?
    I hate to break it to you car clown but bike engines from Japan especially have been able to run for Years at continuously high RPM's. As in ( 14,000 - 16,000 ).
    I raced many National endurance series where our bikes ran at sustained RPM's for ( 4 - 6 - 24hrs ) without any problems. In fact, we ran entire seasons on those motors that Never saw anything below (10,000 RPM's ).
    I guess it's ... MAGIC to a car guy ?