I will say the ability of an electric car to creep very slowly is an attribute not often appreciated, while I don’t get snow, gently creeping along in a traffic jam is less stressful in an electric vehicle.
We have Cross Climate tyres on my wife's Honda CRV and they have been brilliant. When I bought my secondhand MS in August last year I had, and took, the opportunity to buy a second set of wheels with, fairly worn, Pirelli M+S tyres. We live at 1000ft on technically a mountain in N. Wales and received similar amounts of snow, followed by ice, followed by snow. Our local council is practically bankrupt and this year did not grit any of the rural roads around us. NO PROBLEM! The snow tyres worked perfectly and I was the only car to climb the 1:10 hill to the area where we live. However, it had been my intention to put Cross Climate tyres on when the summer tyres wore out. Having watched your video, change of plan! Sticking to summer and then winter tyres for the rest of the Tesla's life. Great video, thank you.
He's probably wrong. He has not tried it on his car so he's going by other people's experiences. Secondhand information is unreliable. If what he is saying is true, there would be major lawsuits against Tesla.
@@justgetatesla 99.9% of cars will work fine, there is always going odd 1% from the normal, I imagine that the 1% probably had a stone chip/hair line crack and it would be a matter of time till it fails nothing to do with 30° heating. Do you really think the best minds in the world have designed this car in the hottest and coldest countries but a guy from TH-cam knows better 😂 5 million tesla's on the roads now my god that's alot of glass.
I Ian, in my Province we are not allow to drive with summer tires from December 1st to March 31st. I have winter tires and will use off road when I'm on highway and the show haven''t been remove. I found it handy (better control), especially when I wan't to change lane. We can use four seasons tires that is a kind of hybrid, but I much prefer to use both types (summer and winter), considering that amount of snow we receive
I would have had the snow socks on the front, or better still four of them. I've driven mine since before you got yours and never had to resort to such things, but since I'm retired I can always look out the window and just say 'nope'. I did use DEFROST on the App and may just go to CLIMATE as you suggest. Another thing to watch for is the windows freezing and not dropping as you try to open the door, so being very unhappy when you try to close it.
@@andrewmee8136 A bit of chill beats a bite that kills, mate. Australia is one of the best places on Earth that I’ll probably never visit, and though that is slightly sad, I have no remorse about skipping out on the venomous critters and crocs. I salute you.
This guy is wild. "Using defrost will Crack the glass". Millions of tesla owners, including myself...... not counting the many Millions of other car owners use defrost daily, with no cracked windshield. Does he really think am automaker would build something into the car that would be bad for it??
2021 M3P with Michelin pilot sport 4s tyres on, absolutely no problem in the snow. All you have to do is drive to suit the conditions. Admittedly, I've come from BMW 530D RWD with a remap with winter tyres in the snow.
Why the fuss about AWD ? - if it's there and it helps use it (as you did) . It was good to see you drive to the conditions unlike some of those who sped passed you oblivious to their increased stopping distances.
I've struggled with Michelin CC2s in snow/ice conditions that were no problem at all for the Pirelli Sottozeros and various other winter tyres I've used. The CC2s seem to have very limited sipes compared to the Pirellis (and most 'proper' winter tyres) which is where I think they aren't giving the tractions when it gets icy. I've avoided getting CC2s for winter use and hence for any use as they don't give as much confidence as I'd like. I previously used to commute via Dalwhinnie in a Jaguar XJR (nearly 400hp in a RWD vehicle) with the Sottozeros in plenty of snow and ice and it never missed a trick. Only issue was it ploughing the snow too much when it got deep. Still plenty of traction but had to go forward, plough it to the side, reverse and repeat. Hoping to pick up the correct snow chains for my Model S 90D next week, as the Konig ones I have now don't really have clearance on the inside edge of the tyres.
I hear you on the perils of deeper snow. I pulled into the closed park and ride site to start filming and practically bottomed out in snow deeper than the ground clearance…
I wonder if you had actual winter rated tires like Michelin X Ice/Snow or similiar would have preformed better? Also, that ice hiting your windshield is called sleet here in Canada.
Michelin X ice would have performed better in the snow/ice but only slightly. But they are not suitable in the UK because with a full winter tyre, once you are back on clear tarmac, the stopping distances will be much longer than the Michelin CC2s he has fitted.
What winter tires are you using? Did you say and I missed it? These all season tires are junk in snow. Get a set of proper Nordic winter tires and you'll be fine. Continental VikingContact or Nokian Hakkapeliitta are usually in the top 3. The test for this winter season was won by Goodyear and their Ultragrip Ice 3 getting 94 of 100 points. The CrossClimate 2 only got 54 points.
A winch or come-along attached to the fron left wheel could have pulled the front right wheel away from the wall to prevent any further damage. I drove across Czechia in the snow last week on winter tyres, managed OK but took it easy. My 2020 M3 AWD doesn't have "off road assist" unfortunately. Other drivers tailgating were annoying, but some karma happened - as I drove through a town, a van pulled out of a side street behind me and a car that had been driving too close to me followed him instead - a hundred yards later, came to a stop at some lights with a bit of ABS kicking in. Suddenly I saw the van in the mirror jump as the tailgater slid into him - that would have been me! Winter tyres worth their weight in gold in the snow, every bit of traction helps and dealing with insurance claims in a foreign land and language would have really spoiled the day!
The problem with UK weather isn't necessarily how bad it is, but the unpredicatability. I am guessing in Wisconsin you are prepared for bad weather each year. In the UK, even in Aberdeen, that doesn't happen anymore on a regular basis. So why buy winter tyres when it may not snow for three years? Then when it does, everyone is sliding around all over the place!
@ most people here don’t buy decent tires either. There aren’t IQ tests for car ownership. Here there is also a wide range just to further extremes. Even in summer when it’s 100 degrees Fahrenheit when you get up and ride your motorcycle to work it might be half that, so, you need to have gear for hot and humid as well as warm gear to prevent hypothermia. I had a job driving and working outside most of my life so I put more thought into it than a lot of people.
You have your own yard, just buy a set of winter wheels from Tesla and swap wheels yourself in spring and autumn. Is what I do. Thats not much snow and you still have to fuff about with socks. Which are also crap imo. All seasons are not for snow at all. Thx for the video, was fun to watch. Drive carefully 👍
The tyres on his Tesla, although not a full winter tyre, are snow rated. They are Michelin cross climate 2s and have the 3 peak mountain snowflake symbol
@AndyC2_ I know, but please, this is important to understand, there is a huge difference. All seasons are not good for compacted snow or ice. Check this link, subtitle Standards, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_tire . Then go to the beginning and read about the snow tires. 3PMSF just means 10% better acceleration. Even IMP is not a guarantee. I'm sure Ian's brick wall agrees.
@@robertofalkoni8544 Full winter tyres are not any good for the UK. If you have snow/ice on the ground for the full winter, then yes, but when it’s only occasional like 3 or 4 days of the season, full winters are a bad choice because the minute you drive on dry tarmac, even in the cold, winter tyres have poor braking distances and poor cornering compared to an All season/all weather tyre. While a full winter tyre might have gotten him off his drive or away from his wall, once he got on the dry main road he would be at a massive disadvantage safety wise
@ I drove back to England from Eastern Europe on full winters last week, no issues, but then I don't drive like a nutter anymore and keep my distance and take corners with respect!
@ You wouldn’t feel or have any issues, but if you’re on dry tarmac and were to compare braking distance and handling against your own car fitted with a premium all season tyre, the data would prove that a full winter tyre has a huge disadvantage in the dry. That’s my only point and why I say full winters are not a good choice in the UK The data continually proves this 👍🏼
Told you on the last video that the Model Y is the worst car I have ever driven in deep snow. The snow I was in was at least twice as deep as you are showing.
Are your all seasons snow rated? I use snow rated and did not have the issues you did while driving in the alps in snow. There is a snow symbol on the side on the side of the tyre. I think it’s worth the extra as snow socks wear quickly. For really bad conditions I keep chains in the car, but have not had to use them on the model Y LR yet.
Does seem crazy not to be 'able' to use defrost when the car is frosty! I'm not, but do wonder how my other vehicles that have had e.g. auxiliary diesel heaters heated, front heated windscreen elements have managed to avoid the laws of thermal expansion to the extent that they haven't cracked the windscreens, nor really any anecdotal issues from owners forums of such.
Silly question... At the end of the vid, you were standing across the road from the spot where you sometimes park your car, on your property... Would it not be OK to add a driveway there so you could get in without climbing up the hill, and reversing back down to your parking spot? Just curios. Regards, Greg.
Sure! The gates are listed, the stonework steps are listed- which means I need permission to convert them. Would cost a lot a lot of money so we’ve put that project a long way down the list. It’s doable, but too many other things need the £ first. Great question though!
Ian, thank you so much. I'm driving my all-wheel drive model Y in Northeast iowa. So far we haven't had enough snow or ice to make a difference and I'm retired so I have very few days when I actually have to go somewhere. I suppose I should go back and check the other videos but do you use the cross climate tires year round or just in the winter?
You want to scare yourself properly in snow, head into Strichen from the Mintlaw direction. Downhill, serious bend, opposite camber. Cheating if the snow plough has been there before you. 😁 The big issue with driving in snow in Model 3 is the plastic front bumper. It's not a very strong snow plough. I am on winter tyres. Last person I knew with snow socks had a Mazda RX8 and lived in Huntly. Not a great combination in winter. Swore by the snow socks.
Living in the Great white northern part of the United States. Having snow tires for winter only and all season tire for spring threw autumn. Equals 😮😊 each set typically lasts me 6 or seven years for the winter tires. 4 to 5 years on the all season tires which usually start to beg me themselves to be changed.😂😮😊
@@stevebbbbi5438 Remember, in the US all season tyres are when we in the UK call summer tyres or standard tyres. The tyres on the Tesla in this video are UK All Season tyres and that’s what you in the US would refer to as All weather tyres
@@AndyC2_just remember that don't matter what country you live in. My point is having 2 sets of tires winter tire for winter. What ever you want to call the other set is fine. Having 2 sets of tires practically last me till I'm ready for a new car.
@@stevebbbbi5438 They might work for you over there, but full winter tyres are a bad choice in the UK because they are only good while there is snow/ice on the ground. Our roads, especially the main roads are predominantly clear and having full winter tyres on mainly clear roads mean much longer braking distances compared to a premium all season/all weather tyre. So what works for you, doesn’t work for us. So actually, it massively matters what country you live in. A suggest you go educate yourself and look at the data. And, don’t get caught out with longer braking distances with your winter tyres if you’re driving on dry tarmac, even in low temperatures
@@AndyC2_ 😂I drive wet, dry snowy, icey etc. Don't notice any slower braking in my model Y AWD onl thing is you will get range. I'm 62 years old grew up in snow climates, my car before this was a BMW 530i rearwheel drive . Only thing I have ever noticed is stopping much faster in dry and snow with winter tires.
Cheers for the update. The off-road debate is limited to Model X/S? There's no option on the 3 - they're at the mercy of Snow Mode. You need to attach Tesla electric flamethrowers to the front of your car. Useful for snow, ice and unwanted crowds. :)
Salt is for wimps, and body repair shops that profit from fixing rusting hulks! If you do drive on salted roads, make sure you wash the car underneath thoroughly.
@@ahavelandcrash damage from sliding into little walls (especially in a Tesla) is the delight of body shops. If you don't care about crash damage buy an old Landrover.
Planning trip to Switz in Feb, I have all seasons…will get 4 socks for my T just in case. Good to see ur wheel trims saved the day! Another great vid as usual 👍🏼
@@TheMicky12345mine is standard RWD only. Ian has a dual motor so AWD. The standard tyres are abit sketchy on snow and uphill, found out the hard way 😅
I had a whole video shot using it - nothing of any real interest. The drive back in the blizzard was unplanned (I was supposed to have left the country). More Teslogic to come - they’ve just sent me an upgrade to review!
Sure! I should have stayed out. I was over-confident. The only problem with staying out is the need for parking on the pavement and using a 40m extension lead to charge the car
It’s subjective. We plow and grit both the roads and pavements which means we do more than they do in most of the rest of the country. But that 2 week cold spell broke us - the authorities couldn’t keep on top of it which meant a lot of accidents. We’re just not prepared for it
All season tyres are the worst-of-all-worlds. Not great in the summer and not great in the winter. I have to drive over to Germany quite a bit, where winter tyres are a legal requirement in winter. I have a winter wheel setup with proper winter tyres which I swap to in late autumn. Makes driving in winter a breeze. I've driven in the Alps in proper snow conditions and not had any issues.
I disagree for this reason - full winter tyres are only good when snow/ice is on the ground. Once you are back on the main road which is predominantly clear, your braking distance will suffer so you are much better off in the UK with a premium all season tyre like he has. And secondly, to your point about it being legal in Germany to have a winter tyre, his all season tyres (Michelin Crossclimate 2) have the 3 peak mountain snowflake symbol, and therefore are legal snow tyres within Europe, Scandinavia and Canada when it’s mandatory to have snow tyres. So you’re wrong about that too
@@AndyC2_ this is a misconception. Winter tyres are proven to be the better tyre when road temperatures are below 7 degrees. It's nothing really to do with snow and ice; it's to do with temperature. Dedicated winter tyres have been proven to be the best when temperatures drop; hence the requirement for them in Europe. Yes, All Seasons will keep you legal, but as I said, they are a catch-all-save-nothing solution. Dedicated winter tyres have a much higher silica content, keeping them supple in cold conditions. The Finnish brand Nokian are the absolute masters in making them. I've done extensive personal research in this field.
@ You are comparing winter tyres against summer tyres. The winter tyre stopping distance only starts to become better than summer tyres at 7degs C in the wet. However in the dry, summer tyres will outperform winter tyres with stopping distances until 2degs C. Only below 2degs will winter stop sooner in the dry. However, you’ve completely missed the point, because we’re not comparing winter and summer tyres here, I’m stating that in the UK, all season tyres are the preferred option so you don’t suffer with winter tyre bad braking distances. There isn’t enough snow on the ground to justify full winter, and as a consequence if you choose full winter in the UK then you suffer bad braking and even cornering compared to an all season tyre. The data is out there - don’t take my word for it, go educate yourself
@@AndyC2_additionally I would say, that, yes, dedicated winter tyres may not be worth it for the majority of those living in the UK. However for JGAT, and others living in the north of Scotland, it would seem that they may well be a worthwhile investment.
Sorry mate i like your videos, but driving around in Off road mode with your car on normal situations, is not the best idea, you cut of all security systems and you are not off road, you are in the normal conditions for a AWD car. putting on Snowsocks in that conditions makes it look like an advert for selling these things, because you would have been able to do the same just on your tires
Sorry mate I was able to do what? I couldn’t walk on that without falling over. Looks like snow. But is frozen on the top, and solid ice below that. Tyres could not drive up it unassisted. Believe me, I tried.
My opinion may upset some, but if you have a prang in these conditions and are not on proper tyres, your insurance company should refuse the claim. Why should I have to subsidise your idiocy ?
I will say the ability of an electric car to creep very slowly is an attribute not often appreciated, while I don’t get snow, gently creeping along in a traffic jam is less stressful in an electric vehicle.
We have Cross Climate tyres on my wife's Honda CRV and they have been brilliant. When I bought my secondhand MS in August last year I had, and took, the opportunity to buy a second set of wheels with, fairly worn, Pirelli M+S tyres. We live at 1000ft on technically a mountain in N. Wales and received similar amounts of snow, followed by ice, followed by snow. Our local council is practically bankrupt and this year did not grit any of the rural roads around us. NO PROBLEM! The snow tyres worked perfectly and I was the only car to climb the 1:10 hill to the area where we live. However, it had been my intention to put Cross Climate tyres on when the summer tyres wore out. Having watched your video, change of plan! Sticking to summer and then winter tyres for the rest of the Tesla's life.
Great video, thank you.
Defrost does not crack your windshield unless you already have chips/cracks.
Using defrost should not crack a windshield, in any other car brand this would be considered a major defect.
He's probably wrong. He has not tried it on his car so he's going by other people's experiences. Secondhand information is unreliable. If what he is saying is true, there would be major lawsuits against Tesla.
I’m not wrong
U r wrong I've had mine 4 years and magically pressed the defrost button to.... Defrost 😂
And you’ve been lucky. Read the comments on this video from people who used defrost and cracked the glass. Are they lying?
@@justgetatesla 99.9% of cars will work fine, there is always going odd 1% from the normal, I imagine that the 1% probably had a stone chip/hair line crack and it would be a matter of time till it fails nothing to do with 30° heating.
Do you really think the best minds in the world have designed this car in the hottest and coldest countries but a guy from TH-cam knows better 😂
5 million tesla's on the roads now my god that's alot of glass.
I Ian, in my Province we are not allow to drive with summer tires from December 1st to March 31st. I have winter tires and will use off road when I'm on highway and the show haven''t been remove. I found it handy (better control), especially when I wan't to change lane. We can use four seasons tires that is a kind of hybrid, but I much prefer to use both types (summer and winter), considering that amount of snow we receive
I would have had the snow socks on the front, or better still four of them.
I've driven mine since before you got yours and never had to resort to such things, but since I'm retired I can always look out the window and just say 'nope'. I did use DEFROST on the App and may just go to CLIMATE as you suggest. Another thing to watch for is the windows freezing and not dropping as you try to open the door, so being very unhappy when you try to close it.
I don’t know how you guys do it, thank god I live in Australia!
@@andrewmee8136 A bit of chill beats a bite that kills, mate. Australia is one of the best places on Earth that I’ll probably never visit, and though that is slightly sad, I have no remorse about skipping out on the venomous critters and crocs. I salute you.
This guy is wild. "Using defrost will Crack the glass". Millions of tesla owners, including myself...... not counting the many Millions of other car owners use defrost daily, with no cracked windshield. Does he really think am automaker would build something into the car that would be bad for it??
2021 M3P with Michelin pilot sport 4s tyres on, absolutely no problem in the snow. All you have to do is drive to suit the conditions. Admittedly, I've come from BMW 530D RWD with a remap with winter tyres in the snow.
3:32 So when a very cold thing and a very hot thing meet, you turn into Donald Duck?? 😂
Why the fuss about AWD ? - if it's there and it helps use it (as you did) . It was good to see you drive to the conditions unlike some of those who sped passed you oblivious to their increased stopping distances.
I've struggled with Michelin CC2s in snow/ice conditions that were no problem at all for the Pirelli Sottozeros and various other winter tyres I've used.
The CC2s seem to have very limited sipes compared to the Pirellis (and most 'proper' winter tyres) which is where I think they aren't giving the tractions when it gets icy.
I've avoided getting CC2s for winter use and hence for any use as they don't give as much confidence as I'd like.
I previously used to commute via Dalwhinnie in a Jaguar XJR (nearly 400hp in a RWD vehicle) with the Sottozeros in plenty of snow and ice and it never missed a trick. Only issue was it ploughing the snow too much when it got deep. Still plenty of traction but had to go forward, plough it to the side, reverse and repeat. Hoping to pick up the correct snow chains for my Model S 90D next week, as the Konig ones I have now don't really have clearance on the inside edge of the tyres.
I hear you on the perils of deeper snow. I pulled into the closed park and ride site to start filming and practically bottomed out in snow deeper than the ground clearance…
I've got all seasons on my ID3 and they're rubbish in the soft wet snow. Great when it's the proper stuff.
Did you use slip start as well? I’m amazed where my M3H will go on stock summer tyres on snow.
No need for slip start - that is to get you out of a position where you are stuck.
Nice vido bit fun in the snow or not sill great vido
I wonder if you had actual winter rated tires like Michelin X Ice/Snow or similiar would have preformed better? Also, that ice hiting your windshield is called sleet here in Canada.
Tyres are 3 peaks snow and ice rated. Even they aren’t invincible
Michelin X ice would have performed better in the snow/ice but only slightly. But they are not suitable in the UK because with a full winter tyre, once you are back on clear tarmac, the stopping distances will be much longer than the Michelin CC2s he has fitted.
What winter tires are you using? Did you say and I missed it?
These all season tires are junk in snow. Get a set of proper Nordic winter tires and you'll be fine.
Continental VikingContact or Nokian Hakkapeliitta are usually in the top 3. The test for this winter season was won by Goodyear and their Ultragrip Ice 3 getting 94 of 100 points. The CrossClimate 2 only got 54 points.
Rolling on Nokian R5s Nordic tyres up here in Norway. Beats winter tyres. 👍
We had -6 in Surrey, no golf!
A winch or come-along attached to the fron left wheel could have pulled the front right wheel away from the wall to prevent any further damage.
I drove across Czechia in the snow last week on winter tyres, managed OK but took it easy. My 2020 M3 AWD doesn't have "off road assist" unfortunately.
Other drivers tailgating were annoying, but some karma happened - as I drove through a town, a van pulled out of a side street behind me and a car that had been driving too close to me followed him instead - a hundred yards later, came to a stop at some lights with a bit of ABS kicking in. Suddenly I saw the van in the mirror jump as the tailgater slid into him - that would have been me!
Winter tyres worth their weight in gold in the snow, every bit of traction helps and dealing with insurance claims in a foreign land and language would have really spoiled the day!
That’s a really nice spring day for Wisconsin.
The problem with UK weather isn't necessarily how bad it is, but the unpredicatability. I am guessing in Wisconsin you are prepared for bad weather each year. In the UK, even in Aberdeen, that doesn't happen anymore on a regular basis. So why buy winter tyres when it may not snow for three years? Then when it does, everyone is sliding around all over the place!
@ most people here don’t buy decent tires either. There aren’t IQ tests for car ownership. Here there is also a wide range just to further extremes. Even in summer when it’s 100 degrees Fahrenheit when you get up and ride your motorcycle to work it might be half that, so, you need to have gear for hot and humid as well as warm gear to prevent hypothermia. I had a job driving and working outside most of my life so I put more thought into it than a lot of people.
Defrost limitations- good to know!
Or snow shovels?
You have your own yard, just buy a set of winter wheels from Tesla and swap wheels yourself in spring and autumn. Is what I do. Thats not much snow and you still have to fuff about with socks. Which are also crap imo. All seasons are not for snow at all. Thx for the video, was fun to watch. Drive carefully 👍
The tyres on his Tesla, although not a full winter tyre, are snow rated. They are Michelin cross climate 2s and have the 3 peak mountain snowflake symbol
@AndyC2_ I know, but please, this is important to understand, there is a huge difference. All seasons are not good for compacted snow or ice. Check this link, subtitle Standards, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_tire . Then go to the beginning and read about the snow tires. 3PMSF just means 10% better acceleration. Even IMP is not a guarantee. I'm sure Ian's brick wall agrees.
@@robertofalkoni8544 Full winter tyres are not any good for the UK.
If you have snow/ice on the ground for the full winter, then yes, but when it’s only occasional like 3 or 4 days of the season, full winters are a bad choice because the minute you drive on dry tarmac, even in the cold, winter tyres have poor braking distances and poor cornering compared to an All season/all weather tyre.
While a full winter tyre might have gotten him off his drive or away from his wall, once he got on the dry main road he would be at a massive disadvantage safety wise
@ I drove back to England from Eastern Europe on full winters last week, no issues, but then I don't drive like a nutter anymore and keep my distance and take corners with respect!
@ You wouldn’t feel or have any issues, but if you’re on dry tarmac and were to compare braking distance and handling against your own car fitted with a premium all season tyre, the data would prove that a full winter tyre has a huge disadvantage in the dry.
That’s my only point and why I say full winters are not a good choice in the UK
The data continually proves this 👍🏼
Told you on the last video that the Model Y is the worst car I have ever driven in deep snow. The snow I was in was at least twice as deep as you are showing.
Are your all seasons snow rated? I use snow rated and did not have the issues you did while driving in the alps in snow. There is a snow symbol on the side on the side of the tyre. I think it’s worth the extra as snow socks wear quickly. For really bad conditions I keep chains in the car, but have not had to use them on the model Y LR yet.
Yes, 3 peaks snow rated
Ian, you don't shovel your driveway?
Does seem crazy not to be 'able' to use defrost when the car is frosty!
I'm not, but do wonder how my other vehicles that have had e.g. auxiliary diesel heaters heated, front heated windscreen elements have managed to avoid the laws of thermal expansion to the extent that they haven't cracked the windscreens, nor really any anecdotal issues from owners forums of such.
Silly question... At the end of the vid, you were standing across the road from the spot where you sometimes park your car, on your property... Would it not be OK to add a driveway there so you could get in without climbing up the hill, and reversing back down to your parking spot? Just curios. Regards, Greg.
Sure! The gates are listed, the stonework steps are listed- which means I need permission to convert them. Would cost a lot a lot of money so we’ve put that project a long way down the list. It’s doable, but too many other things need the £ first. Great question though!
Use of salt may have helped to clear some of the driveway.
Would have needed a LOT of salt…
Why go down your driveway
@@justgetatesla You should keep some grit salt handy but then again I dont know how often you get this sort of weather.
Ian, thank you so much. I'm driving my all-wheel drive model Y in Northeast iowa. So far we haven't had enough snow or ice to make a difference and I'm retired so I have very few days when I actually have to go somewhere. I suppose I should go back and check the other videos but do you use the cross climate tires year round or just in the winter?
They’re on all year round
Wish I had seen this last week!!! I defrosted mine last week and the windscreen cracked☹️
Oh no!!!
You could use some salt and sand at the slippery corners near your driveway
You want to scare yourself properly in snow, head into Strichen from the Mintlaw direction.
Downhill, serious bend, opposite camber.
Cheating if the snow plough has been there before you. 😁
The big issue with driving in snow in Model 3 is the plastic front bumper. It's not a very strong snow plough. I am on winter tyres.
Last person I knew with snow socks had a Mazda RX8 and lived in Huntly. Not a great combination in winter. Swore by the snow socks.
So in summary off road for winter driving ? Yes or no?
No
@ just when it’s super icy then
Living in the Great white northern part of the United States. Having snow tires for winter only and all season tire for spring threw autumn. Equals 😮😊 each set typically lasts me 6 or seven years for the winter tires. 4 to 5 years on the all season tires which usually start to beg me themselves to be changed.😂😮😊
@@stevebbbbi5438 Remember, in the US all season tyres are when we in the UK call summer tyres or standard tyres.
The tyres on the Tesla in this video are UK All Season tyres and that’s what you in the US would refer to as All weather tyres
@@AndyC2_just remember that don't matter what country you live in. My point is having 2 sets of tires winter tire for winter. What ever you want to call the other set is fine. Having 2 sets of tires practically last me till I'm ready for a new car.
@@stevebbbbi5438 They might work for you over there, but full winter tyres are a bad choice in the UK because they are only good while there is snow/ice on the ground.
Our roads, especially the main roads are predominantly clear and having full winter tyres on mainly clear roads mean much longer braking distances compared to a premium all season/all weather tyre.
So what works for you, doesn’t work for us.
So actually, it massively matters what country you live in.
A suggest you go educate yourself and look at the data.
And, don’t get caught out with longer braking distances with your winter tyres if you’re driving on dry tarmac, even in low temperatures
@@AndyC2_ 😂I drive wet, dry snowy, icey etc. Don't notice any slower braking in my model Y AWD onl thing is you will get range. I'm 62 years old grew up in snow climates, my car before this was a BMW 530i rearwheel drive . Only thing I have ever noticed is stopping much faster in dry and snow with winter tires.
I mean lose range with winter tires 😮
Sounds like Canada!
Cheers for the update. The off-road debate is limited to Model X/S? There's no option on the 3 - they're at the mercy of Snow Mode. You need to attach Tesla electric flamethrowers to the front of your car. Useful for snow, ice and unwanted crowds. :)
Is rock salt not available in Scotland?
Salt is for wimps, and body repair shops that profit from fixing rusting hulks!
If you do drive on salted roads, make sure you wash the car underneath thoroughly.
@@ahavelandcrash damage from sliding into little walls (especially in a Tesla) is the delight of body shops. If you don't care about crash damage buy an old Landrover.
Yes. Tend to use a little grit/salt after shovelling if it's frozen and slippy still, but that's more for walking than driving.
Salt wouldn’t have helped. This was frozen snow on top of ice on top of compacted snow. The slide was due to reaching the middle ice layer
Planning trip to Switz in Feb, I have all seasons…will get 4 socks for my T just in case. Good to see ur wheel trims saved the day! Another great vid as usual 👍🏼
@@TeslaAdventurer check the Swiss Regs don't require chains, not socks.
You don't need them, you have an AWD car.......
@@AuntieBuddie thanks have taken a look at they’re not compulsory unless road signs state. Will plan to use main rds and take as precaution
@@TheMicky12345mine is standard RWD only. Ian has a dual motor so AWD. The standard tyres are abit sketchy on snow and uphill, found out the hard way 😅
You should take a trip to Norway ;)
Firstly I am an EV owner and love EV's....why oh why do all Tesla owners come across on TH-cam and Facebook as complete wankers.
So that people like you watch our videos and pay us money. Ta luv
Hello love your channel do you think you will get the 2025 Tesla model y
EVangellists will be crying in there coco pops with this Moss Landing battery fire
I appreciate you coming over here from the MacMaster or GeoffClickbaitsMorons to come and help pay for my EV. Ta luv
Why not put snow socks on all 4 wheels? I know it’s RWD biased, still you wouldnt put winter tyres on the rear only.
Recommendation for AWD is put them on the rear
teslogic would have been nice....
I had a whole video shot using it - nothing of any real interest. The drive back in the blizzard was unplanned (I was supposed to have left the country). More Teslogic to come - they’ve just sent me an upgrade to review!
Very good video as always you are going to tale the place of teslabjorn in our heart keep on Ian
Bless you! That is impossible- Bjorn is one ne of the people who inspired me to do this!
So the road is fine, but your driveway is not,
Don't go down your driveway.
Sure! I should have stayed out. I was over-confident. The only problem with staying out is the need for parking on the pavement and using a 40m extension lead to charge the car
You call THAT a lot of snow? Your roofs are not even covered .
It’s subjective. We plow and grit both the roads and pavements which means we do more than they do in most of the rest of the country. But that 2 week cold spell broke us - the authorities couldn’t keep on top of it which meant a lot of accidents. We’re just not prepared for it
3:43 Broke my windshield that way just a week ago, here in Alabama, USA 3:43
All season tyres are the worst-of-all-worlds. Not great in the summer and not great in the winter. I have to drive over to Germany quite a bit, where winter tyres are a legal requirement in winter. I have a winter wheel setup with proper winter tyres which I swap to in late autumn. Makes driving in winter a breeze. I've driven in the Alps in proper snow conditions and not had any issues.
I disagree for this reason - full winter tyres are only good when snow/ice is on the ground.
Once you are back on the main road which is predominantly clear, your braking distance will suffer so you are much better off in the UK with a premium all season tyre like he has.
And secondly, to your point about it being legal in Germany to have a winter tyre, his all season tyres (Michelin Crossclimate 2) have the 3 peak mountain snowflake symbol, and therefore are legal snow tyres within Europe, Scandinavia and Canada when it’s mandatory to have snow tyres.
So you’re wrong about that too
Not true, winter tyres are good at 7 degrees and below @@AndyC2_
@@AndyC2_ this is a misconception. Winter tyres are proven to be the better tyre when road temperatures are below 7 degrees. It's nothing really to do with snow and ice; it's to do with temperature. Dedicated winter tyres have been proven to be the best when temperatures drop; hence the requirement for them in Europe. Yes, All Seasons will keep you legal, but as I said, they are a catch-all-save-nothing solution.
Dedicated winter tyres have a much higher silica content, keeping them supple in cold conditions. The Finnish brand Nokian are the absolute masters in making them. I've done extensive personal research in this field.
@ You are comparing winter tyres against summer tyres.
The winter tyre stopping distance only starts to become better than summer tyres at 7degs C in the wet.
However in the dry, summer tyres will outperform winter tyres with stopping distances until 2degs C.
Only below 2degs will winter stop sooner in the dry.
However, you’ve completely missed the point, because we’re not comparing winter and summer tyres here, I’m stating that in the UK, all season tyres are the preferred option so you don’t suffer with winter tyre bad braking distances.
There isn’t enough snow on the ground to justify full winter, and as a consequence if you choose full winter in the UK then you suffer bad braking and even cornering compared to an all season tyre.
The data is out there - don’t take my word for it, go educate yourself
@@AndyC2_additionally I would say, that, yes, dedicated winter tyres may not be worth it for the majority of those living in the UK. However for JGAT, and others living in the north of Scotland, it would seem that they may well be a worthwhile investment.
Sorry mate i like your videos, but driving around in Off road mode with your car on normal situations, is not the best idea, you cut of all security systems and you are not off road, you are in the normal conditions for a AWD car. putting on Snowsocks in that conditions makes it look like an advert for selling these things, because you would have been able to do the same just on your tires
Sorry mate I was able to do what? I couldn’t walk on that without falling over. Looks like snow. But is frozen on the top, and solid ice below that. Tyres could not drive up it unassisted. Believe me, I tried.
Oh so funny. Completely deserved. Just get a garbage car.
Mate, you’re here paying for it. Ta luv
Poor driver by the look of the video tbh, how many crap 2wd cars driving 20mph faster than you with ease
Are they driving to the conditions?
@justgetatesla Looks like it.
First can I get pinned
My opinion may upset some, but if you have a prang in these conditions and are not on proper tyres, your insurance company should refuse the claim. Why should I have to subsidise your idiocy ?
I am on proper tyres. 3 peaks snow rated tyres
@@justgetatesla Good man!
Did your insurers have early access to this 🫣
No damage to the vehicle
@@justgetatesla just a joke, because of yesterday's video