How-To Reverse Curve w/ Power Hammer Metal Shaping Linear Stretch At Bespoke Coachworks
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 พ.ค. 2023
- On this episode of Make It Kustom, I have the chance to work on a Rolls Royce panel of Ayden's design at Bespoke Coach Works. Ayden was kind enough to invite me to his shop and teach me anything i wished for in our short time together. He considers this panel to be the most complex area of his design and worked me thru it step by step. I hope you all enjoy these episodes as much as I did.
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The fact that even though you're already highly skilled, you're humble and still willing to learn is really good, it's a good quality to have.
Mate, nobody knows everything, I agree with you about being humble ( which reminds me of a song ) 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@markgriffin4888 I know the song 👍
As an autobody man of 31yrs I find this fascinating. The industry I’m in is primarily insurance repair work. Very little metal shaping knowledge is needed compared to what this gentleman is fabricating. In my industry, if a panel needs more than a few hours of metal shaping repair work, the panel is replaced rather than being repaired. This video is very impressive to me. Thanks Karl for all the hard work, filming and editing you do my brother. Your doing a great job in my opinion👍 Thank you again.
There's no discounting the talent you've acquired in collision repair, Dave. Cars are most commonly a limited timespan commodity which users want presentable for that period. Different world from the customization and museum-quality collectables markets. I'm certain your 31 years brought satisfaction to many people looking to get a vehicle returned to presentable condition for daily use.
The "never too old to learn" attitude has served me well over the years. Keep at it, Karl, and we can
take the journey with you. Cheers.
This guys shop is super clean, I like this it makes your life so much better. Every one clean up your shop and clean up your yard.
Yay! Video drop during dinner.
You’re on it!
Just want to stop and say that I hope to have a fraction of your skills someday! You're killin it man!
Thanks so much man! Cheers! Just keep learning🤘🤘🤘
The art of making the potato chip shaped the way that you want. Ayden's work is a testament to learning about fashioning tools needed to get the result desired, just like many things in Karl video tutorials. There's another Canadian named Fitzee whose videos teach how to break down the process into smaller elements with very basic tools, yet the bottom-line from Ayden, Karl and Fitzee all show the many ways to make the metal move by shrinking and stretching to achieve a shape that's needed. Ayden's talent is a testament to the dedication needed in pursuit of the art he was taught. I'm certain he spent much time in younger years learning and honing skills taught to him by persons capable of crafting those magnificent autos. Very impressive that Ayden uses new, 3D-printing materials for conceptualizing tools. Gives an ability to reproduce tools later using the same CAD models and multi-axis CNC mills. Cut those models from billet steel and offer them as tool products. P-grade tool steel can be cut quickly with good heat treat characteristic for moderate tool life to further refine the tools. Using 8620 for a deep, high case harden with really tough core can make tools for a heavy beating or a 4140-steel tool for long-life, high hardness, and refined finish. There're unending possibilities in the adaptability of punch & die tooling. From bespoke artisan crafting to high production manufacturing applications, it is an amazing part of metalworking technology.
Fitzee breaks it down into steps I could do whole panels like this are a real art form, Ive seen it done but lack the skills
Wray on his Proshaper channel has some videos on making reverse curves with basic tools and an English wheel. He also talks of the theory of where to shrink and where to stretch.
@@theinsaneshecklador6598 You'll notice this shop doesn't use "elfin shit Patterns" Wray hasn't got a clue.!!
@@johnking9602 And your experience? I have watched and read about Wrays work before the internet became a thing. Hes a third Generation car restorer who has forgotten more than many will ever know.
@@Mercmad Wray shares a lot of expert advice, and Karl has mentioned appreciating some of Wray's videos. Those who troll sites where talented people share their skills usually do so due to lack of dedication to learning and lack of respect for those who have done so.
I was really enjoying this video. Then at 20 minutes in, while checking the contours of the sheet metal compared to the buck, you recorded the most spectacular orange-pink sunset behind you through the open garage doors.
Beautiful work done there. Ayden is a true artist. Glad to see you were able to learn from him
I only come across Bespoke a few months ago. Aiden's work is awesome, knows his stuff.
Always something new to learn 👍
A days work and an eyelash away from pure magic !
I really enjoyed watching you learn something your not a pro on. Amazing work being done there. Great to see young people following the art.
Excellent! Really found the adding more surface area a great explanation of whats happening!
What a beautiful sunset through the wind screen
Man, what a talented young man, to be able to read metal like that is a real unreal
Hey Karl, to see you guys at Bespoke Custom and MotorRetro work totally blew my mind with the talent and you make this look so easy to do. I have a collection of Century Old Sheet Metal Fabrication pattern makers books, and I visualise these patterns when Ayden and Yourself describe shrinking and stretching the work piece. Have a great day
Like Mr miyargi says learn from the master to become the master. I’m no metal man but when I was thinking of a question you asked the question. Like doing a full wash instead of working in small spots. Your a talented man Karl that’s for sure. Hard working and willing to learn. All the very best Tim. Aydens shop and projects speak for them selves. Cheers.
Thanks for taking us along on your learning journey! This was a great video!
Definitely takes a good eye. It can get away from you fast. Good work!!
Hey Karl,
You look like you are very tense as you work that hammer.
Maybe try relaxing a bit.
You have the talent to do the task, let the metal show you where it needs to go.
Continue to enjoy your visit down under.
Thanks for letting us tag along.
Aiden is the sheet metal whisperer that fella knows his stuff I’ve seen his work in person and it’s amazing what he can do and he just eyes everything in and let’s the metal talk to him …
Great to see you at the Sydney Rod and Custom Show, Karl. I was amazed at all the new Hare and Forbes metal working gear, and reasonably priced also.
“I see…..” oh boy that's complicated stuff! What a great wire buck though. Thanks so much for letting us see your perseverance in grasping how that particular power hammer technique works - what patience!
Karl, Australian place names can be tricky for overseas visitors...we usually tell visitors to try pronouncing words without using their tongue so much & rely more on the diction that happens when talking thru the nose. You're going great guns, keep on keeping on 🙂
Hey Karl
People don’t realise how complex it can be sometimes !
It’s like rubbing your belly and tapping your head !
Sometimes it gets out of sync 🤣
Wow he has a great shop 👍
Like you said it’s all the Green backs from high end clients that make a difference . 🤗
Meanwhile I am strutting around like a peacock in my work shop just knowing you was there with me ! 👍
You have given me So much Positive Energy it’s Amazing !
Thanx Buddy
From Down Under 🦘
Cheers
Andy 👍
This is all very cool. You know, we all take away knowledge from your videos. Thank you and keep going!
That was absolutely amazing how it works shaping itself an ,well totally awesome watching. 👌
Great work Karl it just proves Wray's philosophy that metal is clay and how far you can stretch and shrink metal. But I never forget the trade master i learnt my trade from he always said you never stop learning no matter how old you are. Well done mate. Cheers
so awesome to see you learning from Ayden, that Auburn looks incredible. The panel you made looks like it turned out great. stoked to hear about all your travels.
Here we go!!
Thanks for opening up a window into this amazing skill set.
awesome video dude, so good to see someone like yourself with your skills learning. makes mere mortals like us feel like we can learn the craft to.
I’m just jealous. I wish I had the space and machinery to get in the game. Great work! Keep it up
Get a small set of hammers, or something like a HF watchmaker's hammer, and start building scale (1:10 RC perhaps) models! It's good practice as far as automotive metal shaping goes and is way easier to get into than a full-on shop. If you want a small English wheel, couple of hard caster wheels on a wooden frame will work for some techniques.
Just don't use metal from home improvement stores, it is OUTRAGEOUSLY expensive. A local metal store or scrapyard is ideal, but you can also ask around places like heating/cooling providers (ask for cutoffs from large rectangular ducts) or even a metal roofing supplier. Plenty of thin flat(-ish) metal over there :D Can even go as cheap as cut-up soft drink cans. Practice many 'light' taps instead of few 'strong' hits so you get to learn how the metal reacts instead of just forcing it into shape. Make a scale cardboard "buck" of your favorite car's panel and try to match it.
That guy at Bespoke has talent. I'm sure he isn't going to really on bondo to fix any mistakes because there aren't any. I so surprised a young guy like he is has so much metal shaping talent. Your's isn't to far away from his keep up the good work.
For decades down here in Australia coach building was a viable industry because government legislation in place meant huge taxes were imposed on fully built up cars being imported. Right into the 1950's you could avoid taxes by importing a chassis and getting the local panel shop to make a body which many did. I have a picture of a 1930 chevy which was imported privately and had a locally built body which was very European in appearance. There were a few big body builders who were building bodies for mass production but that was a different thing. Between the 60's and 80's most of the last of the body builders passed on and skills were lost. We even had companies here who could supply english wheels etc all made in Australia. It's interesting to see it comong back ,even if it's only resto work and not new car bodies.
One of your best videos ever. And that is some pretty high praise. This had to be a challenge. That panel had so much shape in it. And then to see the cars that Ayden is working on is incredible. As much as I like that Auburn. It is awesome to see it at this stage an know what has gone into it, I am also wondering about that Alfa under cover. Ayden seems to be a master at such a young age. So we go from a cool old work tug one week to probably one of the best coach building shops the next. This is great!
Very interesting video! Thanks Karl.
There's so much to learn.👍
I do this sort of work but in silver / copper /gold. It’s knowing when and where to stretch or compress . This is a great vid for any shaper any field of metalwork . Well done you and Bespoke.
Good Lord, absolutely amazing! Thank you so much for sharing.
It's coming along. Wow that's crazy amazing. Can't wait to see more videos soon my friends. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend. Fab On. Weld On. Keep making. God bless.
Very nice thank you for the time In making this video
Cool stuff Karl ! Enjoy your stay !
Very impressive Karl Auden is very talented Beautiful work he does
Karl
Great video.
Great learning experience.
Looks like you are having a great time.
Enjoy!
what an outstanding experience and opportunity god bless
Productive visit to Aydens shop. Get your name on the list for that hammer and the English wheel for the first production models. Sure to be modern classics right off the line. That Auburn is drop dead classy. Stunning metal fabrication. ✌
Amazing!!!
Great video with awesome content. Love it!!
Love the hare and Forbes machinery , good quality for a reasonable price, one day I’ll get an English wheel from them , hope your enjoying Australia Karl , cheers
Thanks for the vid , very informative . It's not talent it's skill learnt thousands of hours practice and problem solving like with all skills .On saying Ayden if one very highly skilled Craftsman . But ayden brakes the mould in a young guy with more skill than his years should allow .
Being an old school coach builder in the uk i have seen a lot of older guys who could'nt hold a torch to Ayden's work .
It’s like a black art 😂😂 major skills 👍
Aidan has serious skilz
very cool. I also have a reverse curve that I need to figure out how to make. Nowhere near the size you are dealing with, but I still have to figure it out. Im just trying to get an idea on how to start it. Thanks for this video
Very interesting technique to try to wrap your head around. I’d give a 100 dollar bill right now to watch Fitzee wrestle with that machine 😂 and then turn around and do it his way 👍 cool video, tell Brenda I says hi and it’s about time for another cameo! 😍
Hope you are spending a bit of time outside the four walls of the shop and getting out to see a bit of the country.
That's a lotta patience.
Cool video!
Those tools are incredible, I've tried to buy them here in the US but the current is different and though I didn't care, ( figured I could change the motors) they wouldn't sell to me. Nice work on your part and certainly the fellows at Bespoke.
You can definitely change the motors but USA spin a bit quicker as 60 Hz vs 50Hz in Aus - we spn single phase 240 V at about 2900 rpm single phase and USA spin 110 Volt at about 3200 rpm. If 3 phase then a variable speed drive will do the trick.
More manufacturing in Australia 🇦🇺 needed
I can't even fix the dents in my cars let alone make a complex curve like this!! While you´re in OZ make sure you try a lamington square and Pavlova, then remind the Aussies that they are both from New Zealand!! Can´t go past a bundeberg ginger beer, although they are probably some much better artisan versions around. Have a good one!
I do see where your headed Karl. I hope its enough to keep me interested as I am in the building of cool rigs.... such as your car hauler or auburn or was it zephyr, made by ford tho... my health is deteriorating fast. Who knows what my future is
Cool stuff Karl I saw a guy doing this it was Aston Martin panels I'd teed him up to match some paint for me and I turned up mid way thru a panel and watched him fascinated, he called himself a big copy machine if you bring it it he could replicate it, I forget now what hes called but hes in the Hills district in Sydney
Hey Carl, thanks for all your helpful videos over the years. Please. If you hear any plans for the Metalmaster brand to hit N.America, could you please let us know? Cheers and have fun down under!
Great stuff Karl. I can see that you are getting more pumped up every day. Or do they say "chuffed" in Oz?
yes an amazing guy with different approaches same as you Karl and take a look see a Clean Shop to work out of not saying your Shop is not Clean just very cluttered up Cheers to you both
Some coach builders in Australia are very good tradesmen some of them took courses in England
Karl, when making a panel with that much stretch do you start with a heavier gauge sheet?
Man I wish you did some sort of meet up in Canberra I couldn't get to Sydney but live in Canberra
Unbelievable video! Do you know what radius the bottom tools were? I'm thinking of making something similar for my Nibbler Maximus!
Thanks!
If you master reverse curves then you have mastered the seemingly impossible. The rest of life will be a breeze.
Please tell me you brought some merch over with you Karl? I'll have to come to Sydney and say hi!! Great channel mate, learnt so much cheers.
Nice Work.
#STAYSAFE
#PHILLYPHILLY 🇺🇸
Hey.. . Did you see that @sosametalworks has uploaded shorts recently?
Yes I hope he continues!
Karl
That panel seemed to come together very quickly.
Ayden does some fantastic work.
I bet Canberra was cold and just like Canada. Mid May they had sub Zero degrees C overnight in May and will only get colder in June- July,
I know your time lapsed the footage makes it look like it did not take long - How many hours did you put on that panel.
It seemed like maybee 2-3 hours??
Hope you get to see a bit of rural Aus and the Blue mountains whilst you are here.
Watch out for our killer Drop Bears.
Rgeards Michael
Okay Karl.... When will we see one of those Metal master power hammer in your shop? It seems to be one of those tools that one falls in love with.
Does the metal feel any thinner after all that hammering and stretching? Probably hard to tell after adding all that shape.
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In star trek meme terms: Jurassic park his sunglasses removed 🤯
Getting a master class there. It cost some Dollars to get there, but you will make your money back many times over with knowledge gained. What will your first coach built be?
Us Aussies know our stuff ..
Only one concern with the sound of the metal... how thin does it get when forming it like that?
What kind of aluminium does Ayden use in the restoration of the Aubur?
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Might be a stupid question, but how much thinner does the metal become after you have finished??????
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Hey Karl,
I live in Canberra. Are you still here? If you are, can I buy you a beer and a feed?
It’s pretty wild how much that machine beats up the panels. Nothing like the true power hammers. I would be pissed if my Pettingells or even my fabricated hammer did that to my panels.
These dies need work.
Far too much Crown
my son practice practice and you'll become a Yoda Masters someday my son practice practice .
call it h2.O guess your starting with a h2
Naw!!! Still wouldn't buy Hare & Forbes stuff. Its still cheaper to buy and import (even with the bad AUD/USD dollar) from the us stores. The quality is still way better.
I havnt tried everything on the market but the recent upgrades on some stuff I tried here are pretty badass
@@MakeItKustom I think Hare and Forbes spotted a niche in the market where the baileigh stuff in Australian dollars gets a bit expensive so they started doing machines in that space at a cheaper price, what’s been great is letting the experts refine the products and provide feedback to improve performance that’s where the gains are coming from. On another matter it was inevitable that make it kustom and bespoke got together, both amazing talents and great content. We would love to have you as an Aussie so many iconic Australian cars you could work your magic on. There is some crazy talent and projects happening across this country at the moment as you no doubt experienced at motorex
I think you're spot on Paul, I was surprised at how reasonably priced all the new gear was. I think metal shaping is really taking off in Australia, Hare and Forbes is on a winner here I think.
@@edcass9 You must be kidding!!!
One company selling over rated tooling were it cheaper to import high quality items from a multitude of different company's. But I suppose novices who no idea of good or not seeing bright and shiny things always fools to dumb and amateur. To add to my comments words direct from several H&F salesperson's. "Our gear is not meant for the professional it fully designed for home handy man patching rust holes in jap cars. If you want quality professional gear import it yourself from where ever". I've has several salesperson's make this actually statement to me on several different days.