It's well over 30hp plus it's just super inefficient because the car is a twin scroll setup so and unequal length setup may sound good but thats the only positive. It hurts performance across the board.
I think that wraspy sound comes from the catless j-pipe / downpipe combo'd with. Still wondering if someone just has the Tomei UEL with Tomei cat back would sound like on a a FA. ( More rumble, less rattle can) ?
@@cdbig9er no it doesn't lmao. A simple exhaust doesn't make a wrx look anything like a civic. And the nameless is crap. Try listening to them in person. I've had each installed on my 2019 wrx.
@@JORDIIMusic was way too raspy for me. Had it for about 7 months. I have a tomei catback now. Also the nameless had considerable drone with I drive the highway a lot and it was bothersome. But to each their own.
@@ethanheinrichs5583 stock sti has a bit of a rev hang also. It's the stock tune for both cars. The fa is worse but neither is great. Get a tune for both platforms to fix it.
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@@journeyyodm6564 Having my own wrx and having had exhaust with and without a resonator, I'd disagree. Resonator made it waaay deeper, killed drone and got rid of the rice rasp.
Thanks for your service and thanks for the sound clips. Ever think of running a dry sump pump on your uel setup? I have a 14 STi and wishing to go EL but the dry sump oil pump only fits UEL currently.
Tbh it sounds great, but it sounds slower because of the uel... Not hating, this is coming from a stage 1 tune with just an axle back exhaust but it sounds like its holding itself back hardcore
I'm looking to buy something newer and I've looked at the focus rs and the wrx. which would be a better daily and for all year through the winter? Just asking because I'm from Minnesota
Forgive me, but just general question. My understanding was the FA20 had equal length headers for the twin scroll turbo... was that replaced as well or, and I ask this jokingly, are we just throwing a middle finger to subaru engineers and getting back the boxer rumble?
You absolutely MUST get the car tuned after installation or you will have problems. Finding someone who can actually tune the car is a whole other challenge.
Hey thank you for the upload...im thinking of getting the Tomei UEL Headers for my WRX, did you notice any spool time difference? HP gains/loses over stock headers? Thank you
@Josh Yates yes thank you for the input however the tomei were specifically made to go on a Twin Scroll, thats why I have questions about spool time and noticeable loses.
I talked to my tuner about these an he said for the ones he’s tuned he hasn’t really seen any issues or loss/gain in power. At least nothing significant anyway
@@midnight_gospel Graham at boosted performance did a tune on these with subi speed and all they changed was unequal length to the grimmspeed equal length and the tomei unequal length lost almost 40hp and some torque and was a bit slower to build boost. The sound is nice but it hurts performance.
They actually aren’t bad for the car, we’ve had the headers installed on one of the forged projects shop cars for a little over 15k miles and no issues have come up, and the car is full bolt on e-85 tuned making 400+ to the wheels.
@@Stillsmatic I’ve been seeing a lot of people say negative things about the UEL but my ‘19 wrx is also forged so you give me hope. It sounds like a boosted k series rn smh
No issues, you do lose a little bit of torque due to the nature of them being in equal length. But the lower torque is actually a benefit as high torque on The fa20 is what puts rods through the block.
Basically the same boxer rumble sound I guess maybe the sti does have a 2.5 liter instead of a 2.0 like the wrx but that iconic subie rumble is all headers bro
@@deidara1042...maybe not ringlands, but possibly a new failure yet to be discovered. How do the UEL headers handle the heat and how do the cylinders on the short runs react?
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The dual exit sounds so much better. I want the UEL headers so bad. Don't even care for the power loss, the sound is what I want!
its so loud obnoxious and in your face I LOVE IT
it really does add the character to the car. I guess subarus really need the UEL Headers to be a real subi
Fuck the slight horse power loss, give me the subie rumble back 😭
Facts
definitely slower
It's well over 30hp plus it's just super inefficient because the car is a twin scroll setup so and unequal length setup may sound good but thats the only positive. It hurts performance across the board.
@@alexfromia4511 undoubtedly. My stage 2 straight pipe pulls on STIs easily, swapping headers would probably make it a lot closer of a race
I dont even wanna race. I just want subie rumble
that first exhaust sounded soo good.
I thought I would like to the tome exhaust better. But honestly I like the first one.
The tomei was extra loud
I think that wraspy sound comes from the catless j-pipe / downpipe combo'd with. Still wondering if someone just has the Tomei UEL with Tomei cat back would sound like on a a FA. ( More rumble, less rattle can) ?
Still the best sounding so far!! Nice set up man!!
@@foraday1 the Tomei will naturally sound like that because of it being Titanium. Titanium always adds a very tinny sound to an exhaust.
Sounds like a tin can
quad tip hits different
Tomei ftw💯
God damn that tomei sounds beautiful
The nameless sounded much better to me. I’m definitely subscribing 👍🏿.
Not just sounds better but looks better too.
Single outlet on a 2015+ WRX looks like a freakin Civic.
@@cdbig9er no it doesn't lmao. A simple exhaust doesn't make a wrx look anything like a civic. And the nameless is crap. Try listening to them in person. I've had each installed on my 2019 wrx.
@@ranran2218 you got the vtech mang ? lol.
@@ranran2218 Disagree. Have the Nameless on my WRX and also installed one on my old Legacy. Sounds amazing in person.
@@JORDIIMusic was way too raspy for me. Had it for about 7 months. I have a tomei catback now. Also the nameless had considerable drone with I drive the highway a lot and it was bothersome. But to each their own.
The rev hang😭 but sounds great!!!
#FA life😂
No. Factory tune life.
@@ethanheinrichs5583 stock sti has a bit of a rev hang also. It's the stock tune for both cars. The fa is worse but neither is great. Get a tune for both platforms to fix it.
@@ranran2218 tunes are expensive as hell. i would love to get one but idk if it’s worth it just for the rev hang
@@yammmit wayyyy more benefits to a tune than just rev hang
This gave me hope for the next gen of Subarus, I can’t stand the way the fa sounds with ELH.
Milk
those sound so good with uelh ive never been a sound over speed guy but this is just so many smiles per gallon.
This is what a Subaru is supposed to sound like!!! The fact they made these with ELH instead and made them sound like civics just baffles me
because with a twin scroll turbo, theh ELH has better performance than an UEL
Because it’s not just for sound… Much better performance from an EL header.
If I even had a Subaru all I need is that TOMEI!!!😆
Equal or unequal?
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Thanks bro. Appreciate the love. Sorry to say…my wife said no. Lol 👊🏼🤣
Man still haven't been able to find a video with a regular exhaust set up. Quad or invidia N1 dual. Something along those lines with mufflers.
Gonna be me soon. Got the Invidia n1 dual
Just uploaded a video with my car :P
I feel like they would both sound better with a resonator, it's pretty raspy.
it’s the microphone
@@journeyyodm6564 Having my own wrx and having had exhaust with and without a resonator, I'd disagree. Resonator made it waaay deeper, killed drone and got rid of the rice rasp.
Thanks for your service and thanks for the sound clips. Ever think of running a dry sump pump on your uel setup? I have a 14 STi and wishing to go EL but the dry sump oil pump only fits UEL currently.
I need the full build list
amazing work bro..
FA20’s should’ve came with UEL headers, it just doesn’t sound right the way it comes stock. That’s it, getting mine this summer.
Same too on G😂🤌🏾
I think its better to get a wrx and change the headers to uel and add a tomei exhaust to make it sound like an sti
Awesome setup! Also what is your intro and outro music?
That rumble under my ass means it’s subaru 😂😂
Sounds sick! Just subbed!
Nice video ChairForce
Please make a video of this setup: Tomei UEL header and up pipe, nvidia Catless DP and stock exhaust!!!
Fuck that sounds good, this is my dream exhaust setup I’m just scared because I’m from California
Wheres the part2? Is still makin it
Tbh it sounds great, but it sounds slower because of the uel... Not hating, this is coming from a stage 1 tune with just an axle back exhaust but it sounds like its holding itself back hardcore
OMG that sounds awesome!
I'm looking to buy something newer and I've looked at the focus rs and the wrx. which would be a better daily and for all year through the winter? Just asking because I'm from Minnesota
Wrx
Forgive me, but just general question. My understanding was the FA20 had equal length headers for the twin scroll turbo... was that replaced as well or, and I ask this jokingly, are we just throwing a middle finger to subaru engineers and getting back the boxer rumble?
The only thing they swapped was the headers. The stock equal length headers for the tomei unequal length headers
Sounds great, is it just the Tomei and headers? or is there an aftermarket downpipe?
Invidia catless j pipe
who tuned this, i live in florida as well
Most likely Mikey Botti , he tunes everyone’s car here in Florida . @stimikey on Instagram . Also follow @wrxperts and @machinesgonewild
@@ironskater121 thank you
Better mic or back up
im pretty sure its a wrx but idk. if its a wrx it sounds amazing
Yes it’s a WRX. The UEL provides the rumble that is traditional with the Subaru brand.
love the build but why stock wheels
What BOV / BPV are you using?
Yeoo whats the bov you’re using??
How bad is the unequal headers for your engine? Great video
You absolutely MUST get the car tuned after installation or you will have problems. Finding someone who can actually tune the car is a whole other challenge.
Do I need any other parts to get that first sound clip like a tune or anything
Pls tell me what brand those tail lights are, I must have them 😍
What bov was that?
Have y’all experienced more turbo lago with this setup? If not how did you compensate for it?
Would I need a tune if I do this for my wrx ???
Is it okay to run this without a tune for a little while?
oh yess baby
What bov are you running
What song is that at 2:25 ?
What exhaust setup are you ranning
This Car is A/T or a Manual Transmission?
Hey thank you for the upload...im thinking of getting the Tomei UEL Headers for my WRX, did you notice any spool time difference? HP gains/loses over stock headers? Thank you
@Josh Yates yes thank you for the input however the tomei were specifically made to go on a Twin Scroll, thats why I have questions about spool time and noticeable loses.
@@fixflickss you lose any benefit for sound, nothing much to say more
I talked to my tuner about these an he said for the ones he’s tuned he hasn’t really seen any issues or loss/gain in power. At least nothing significant anyway
@@midnight_gospel hey, thanks a bunch for your reply, definitely getting these.
@@midnight_gospel Graham at boosted performance did a tune on these with subi speed and all they changed was unequal length to the grimmspeed equal length and the tomei unequal length lost almost 40hp and some torque and was a bit slower to build boost. The sound is nice but it hurts performance.
What size are the mufflers on the nameless or is it the muffler delete?
Deletes
Some say these headers are bad long term, but are they ok if I’m not always pushing my car?
They actually aren’t bad for the car, we’ve had the headers installed on one of the forged projects shop cars for a little over 15k miles and no issues have come up, and the car is full bolt on e-85 tuned making 400+ to the wheels.
@@Stillsmatic I’ve been seeing a lot of people say negative things about the UEL but my ‘19 wrx is also forged so you give me hope. It sounds like a boosted k series rn smh
so both are the same but the second one is catless? or what’s the difference
They are both catless, just swapped the exhausts from the nameless to the tomei.
What BOV/bypass is this running? Sounds amazing
Sounds like an hks bov a bypass valve doesn’t make any noise when you rev it like it that only when your shifting
@@Q50rs400 correct. You don't build boost under idle. There needs to be a load on the engine.
pqp que ronco absurdo
Any issues with these? I’m really considering them even tho it doesn’t make sense with the twin scroll
No issues, you do lose a little bit of torque due to the nature of them being in equal length. But the lower torque is actually a benefit as high torque on The fa20 is what puts rods through the block.
@@Stillsmatic im definitely going to send it then
Also what bov is on this? Sounds so cool
Hks ssqv
@@MavicHeroFilms did you have to do some form of adapter to run the SSQV, or because you're running FMIC you were able to do it with new piping??
Yes siiir
Almost sounds diesel. Bad ass
Is it too loud ??
Was this filmed on 415?
The aluminum exhausts are a tad raspy
Does putting uel need a tune or no?
yes you definitely do.
Do u need to tune for the headers?
Anything that messes with air or fuel you need a tune...so yesif you want it to run right you need a tune
is that lake mary blvd in Sanford? lol
Yes lol
@@MavicHeroFilms This randomly came up on my feed. I drive a 97 impreza OBS and noticed the road haha.
What is the name of the spoiler please
..it looks like the OE STi wing. Could be black, could be a carbon reproduction. No matter how it's sliced, it looks like the stock STi wing.
Do you have a place where i can find this subaru ? Fb instagram etc?
🔥🔥
Song title?
What taillights are those?
Subispeed V2 sequentials
Ello, what’s lights are these?
If you’re asking about the tail lights, they’re Subispeed V2’s
What tail lights are those
Stock with a inlay
Subispeed V2
how to make mine sound like this 🙈
how he has a BOV i thought u cant put it on this car only BPV is allowed
Some ppl get speed density tuned but either way bov it’s not a good idea with these maf cars
😲
sounds like a small block V8!!!!!!!
Song at 2:23?
Shazam is steering me in the wrong direction :(
What BOV/BPV was it?
Hks ssqv bov fully atmospheric
@@KevinCruz-on1yr that's what I was thinking it sounded like... Guessing that would have to be adapted for the WRX setup
quads are much better
Say bye to your turbo
Owell
OH NAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Ehh still not the true rumble of an Sti but close enough
Basically the same boxer rumble sound I guess maybe the sti does have a 2.5 liter instead of a 2.0 like the wrx but that iconic subie rumble is all headers bro
I be 16 i give 35k Subaru wrx sti
Hey rev the car 300 times after changing exhaust because 1-4 isn't enough.. annoying AF.
So now we offering ringland failure to the WRX's for the price of sound LMAO
You’re an idiot lol
@@deidara1042...maybe not ringlands, but possibly a new failure yet to be discovered. How do the UEL headers handle the heat and how do the cylinders on the short runs react?
SummerBRZ you realize how great the FA block cools each cylinder? Thats the reason why the EJ has a cylinder cooling kit, cus the EJs sucked.
There is nothing to do sadly for those poor fa, even with this still sound cringy
Headers? It's 1 piece, so how can you say it plural?
0:35 Nameless cutback???
3:13 How can you spell Tomei wrong and Expreme wrong? fucking amateurs.
Another slow wrx that sounds like shit with a sti wing?! This build was epic dude! Definitely not enough cars already exactly like it ! 💯
Attention?
Lmfao it’s probably faster than an sti
Jovanny Alvarado this was 7 months ago while I took a dump bro