I think that’s totally fair to say. The only way that I would say it differently is if the new iPadOS software has some game changing exclusive features for the new ones with the M4 chip. But I completely agree with how things are right now
I don’t think I will upgrade. Yes the M4 iPad Pro is more powerful, but what am I going to use the extra power and performance for if I just consume content? Yes the M4 iPad Pro is thinner and lighter, but that’s just 20 grams lighter than the 2018 model. I normally just use it inside my own home. Even if I do decide to get the M4 iPad Pro, Apple doesn’t allow you trade in your Magic Keyboard or Apple Pencil and it’s not compatible with the new M4 iPad Pro, meaning you have to spend even more money just to have a extra function row keys and a Apple Pencil which I hardly use. There’s only like 10 triple AAA games on the App Store that only works with the M chip models but those games have bad reviews. The emulation still runs well on the 2018 iPad Pro model.
@@Graf-XTechReviews I’m interested to know what does the iPad Pro 2018 screen look compare to the iPad Pro 2024 screen look side by side, when watching TH-cam, Anime, Netflix and etc. Both with the lights on and off. Any chance you can do a test on that? I don’t like to watch content with reflection. So I put a matte screen protector on. And watch in my room with the lights off.
I will have a much more in depth video on just the new display and what the nano-textured display changes coming soon. I want to do some outdoor tests as well but I gotta wait until it stops raining in my area😂
I bought the 11 inch iPad Pro with OLED Display. I used it for 6 days indoors and outdoors in bright sunlight didn’t really notice much of a difference between the 11 and my 7 year old 10.5 inch iPad Pro. I used my $1,100 refund and bought Apple stock so I too could benefit from the suckers that purchase the new products. Just updated my 7 year old iPad Pro to 17.5.1 latest software so I guess I’m good for another 7 years.🤷♂️
Hey, if that does everything you need it to, then that is perfect, I’m glad you don’t have to spend that money. For me, I use my iPad as a crucial part of my workflow and as my video editor so the extra speed along is worth it to me. However, I know that many people are gonna be just fine with older models, thanks for sharing!
Thank you that’s a good catch! I didn’t see that! I will be more careful in the future. If you want to see a more accurate example of that LCD screen, check out the comparison in this video: th-cam.com/video/iMs18JdZAvc/w-d-xo.html
I think so! Obviously I’m still only in my first week of using it, but so far, it is really good and I can totally see this lasting for a good 5 years kinda like the 2018 iPad
I just upgraded to the M4 11inch… but it’s going back. Sure, the OLED screen is great, for lots of things - nice blacks, light parts shine, and some videos and photos look amazing. BUT, two things really annoy me, to the point I find them unacceptable. Firstly, the sound is actually slightly worse than on my 2018 iPad Pro - sounds like tiny speakers inside a tin can (a bit echoey and a bit muffled)… probably because they had to squeeze the speakers into a thinner body (which nobody asked for). Secondly, as a photographer, I don’t appreciate the stupidly rounded corners to the display… apart from losing a small bit of corner real estate, a standard full-frame DSLR photo now clips at every corner as it overlaps the curve - no more clean rectangular images. This is less “pro”… no pro photographer, videographer or designer needs curved corners - it makes zero sense. It was just about okay on the previous models (pro and not pro), but this is just stupid and annoying. Lastly, the extra thinness, once in a case, is irrelevant… and the weight difference is minimal… better to have left it the same (perfectly fine) thickness and squeezed in a larger battery (I can say that I don’t seem to be getting great battery life, but can’t be sure it’s worse than before). I do not know why all the reviews I’ve read ignore the corners issue - this is supposed to be a “pro” device, and those are anything but pro - or is it just me? BTW, the Magic Keyboard is great (if stupidly expensive), but removing the tablet when you want a tablet and not a laptop is too fiddly, especially if you want to transfer it into a case for protection… better to buy a MacBook Air. The MacBook Pro makes all the right design choices for professional users… the iPad Pro does the opposite.
Well it sounds like you made the right choice for yourself. I’m gonna be honest the speakers sound great to me and I can’t hear anything tinny about them, but that’s just me. I actually agree with you about the thinness. Especially for the 11”, it’s hardly any different and I’d prefer more battery. I’ve never really heard the rounded corners being an issue for anyone, but that’s very interesting thanks for letting me know. I understand why you’re seeing that as less pro for you, but I use mine professionally and I love the rounded corners. It mostly depends on what kind of professional things you want to do on this iPad. So, for you, I agree that it makes more sense to have a MacBook, although, I still think there are plenty of people who could use their iPad instead. Thank you for the very informative feedback! You brought up some really interesting points that I haven’t heard before! Very helpful!
@@Graf-XTechReviews @Graf-XTechReviews as a photographer and designer, I prefer to see my work without a rounded frame imposed on everything in accordance with Apple's design aesthetic... it detracts from the blank canvas that creators need... Loading up standard size Raw photos from a DSLR, each image now includes clipped edges at the top and bottom where the newer more rounded corners encroach on them... The design choices are anything but pro... I would have appreciated another port, perhaps, or longer battery life... all the hype about the thickness is total nonsense.
I completely agree that the thinness is way over-hyped. I see how that makes sense for you to not have the rounded corners, thank you. And yeah better battery and more ports would have been far far better than thinness.
Personally, I upgraded, for the sole reason that I only have 64 GB and this is not cutting it anymore. Otherwise, my 2018 would have been perfectly fine. I did not opt for the new Air, because I couldn't stand downgrading to Touch ID.
Still fine with 11” ipad pro 2018. Have the mahnetic pencil and the magic keyboard. Will keep it until it brakes, by then i’ll buy the 11” M4 ipad pro when other M5+ ipad pros have come out. One question though, is the new m4 ipad pro compatible with my old 1st gen magic keyboard?
No, unfortunately when they made them slightly thinner and redesigned, they changed where all the magnets are placed so it stay on the old style. But I’m glad that the 2018 iPad is working great for you still!
I agree it is unfortunate that the old one doesn’t work with the new iPad’s however, to me it doesn’t make me feel like they don’t have longevity. Basically every new iPhone has a slightly different shape and therefore needs a new case. So I think it’s pretty cool that the same keyboard case worked with many many models of the iPad (4 models of pros, 3 models of airs) and it even still works with the newest iPad Air. But I do get what you are saying. It would’ve been better if the old one still worked.
@@Graf-XTechReviews Fr, but there's a huge difference between the price of an iPhone case and a magic keyboard + new apple pencil. BUt i get your point, it'ill probably work with more generations of iPads too
There were rumors about that, but it doesn’t appear to be any smaller. If the 2018 iPad still works for you, then absolutely keep it! No reason to upgrade if you don’t need it 👍
I would say it probably is almost double the power and with the better screen and everything that does make sense. My recommendation is just see what is compared between them in the video and see if those features and capabilities are really worth the extra price
The only problem for me is that I only use my iPad Pro with the Smart Keyboard Folio and the new one doesn’t have one… so for me it would actually be a downgrade on that level but I’m going to get the Vision Pro so maybe I won’t even need an iPad anymore 🤷♂️😂
I love this review since I have a 2018 Pro and I've been wondering if I should upgrade. Thanks for helping with the decision to upgrade! I had a 12.9" 2018 Pro, but decided to order the 11" M4 Pro. I think the slightly smaller size will be nice for drawing on the go.
I've heard some news how the new ipad sounds tinny compared to the previous ones. Is it true? I'm coming from a 2017 pro and I'm holding back if the speaker rumors are true 😭
The speakers sound great to me. I also saw a speaker test from MaxTech and they said they sound the same as old pros. I can do some more in depth testing on it, but from what I found it sounds the exact same
New visitor to your site and I found you did a very nice, detailed and real-world comparison. Just what I was looking for as I own a 2018 iPad Pro 12.9.
That’s awesome! I’m really glad that it was helpful. I have a goal to be informative and have actual experiences and to discuss use cases that I have come across on my own. I’m glad I seemed to meet that for you, thanks for sharing!
Thanks for great review and comparison. I'm waiting for what they'll bring with a new iPad OS update. Hopefully it will match the progress of hardware.
Yeah I think it’s wise to wait for that update, especially if you aren’t very happy with the state of iPadOS currently. I’m personally hoping for some big improvements as well!
Everybody with an OLED screen loves referencing the content created with pure blacks in the background, but day today when do you watch content like that? Now this is coming from somebody who uses an iPad as an art tablet and pure blacks would be fantastic for more than just content. But you do have to think about the fact that you don't ever really watch anything with pure blacks in it 2018 has lidar. 2018 has ambient color sensor for brightness and color correction. 2018 sounds better for mics
It does depend on the person as well. I have a friend that I showed the new iPad to and without showing anything “pure black” he immediately loved the new screen and could tell that it was much higher quality. But if it doesn’t make a big difference for you, then totally don’t upgrade to a new one and save some money! They are too expensive for anyone to upgrade just because, I think you have to be sure. Also, just really quick the 2018 does NOT have the LiDAR Scanner on the back or the ambient light sensor that is on the back; it does have one on the front but they serve slightly different functions. Thanks for the feedback! I hope my video helped you make a decision!
Great video, I would love to see some speed tests of real world things. Like exporting a video from imovie or FCP, or maybe more on thunderbolt port and its benefits. But thanks for this comparospn it was very well done.
That’s a great idea. I didn’t do an export comparison because the 2018 iPad Pro can’t get Final Cut Pro, but I suppose I could’ve done it in iMovie, just totally didn’t think of that😂 I am doing a comparison between the new one and the M1 iPad Pro and I’ll be sure to include an export test. Thanks for the suggestions!
Before this video, I wasn’t aware of the changes to the front facing camera for video calls. This is a game changer for me since I make lots of video calls with my clients, and the old off center camera was terrible for this. This feature alone (well, along with getting more storage and a newer battery) made me make the jump. This probably isn’t a worthwhile upgrade for other owners or 2018 and up iPad Pros, but the center front camera made it worth the money for me, Thanks for the great and honest video review.
Good video! I currently have the 2018 iPad Pro but I don't think I'll be upgrading this year. I haven't used an iPad in a long time since I finished school.
That’s interesting, I want to make sure that I’m providing the best information possible. Could you give me some specifics as to how there isn’t much of a difference?
Nice! Yeah if it has 2 cameras in the back, it’s either the 2020 model, the 2021 model, or the 2022 model. And now the new iPad Pros have a different camera bump with only one camera in it
I want to upgrade my 2018 Pro, but I only use it to consume content, less and less each day. I think I’ll go to apple to replace the battery to make it last a few more years. do you know if the ipad performance gets slow down if the battery is too old? ( similar to what happens with iphones )
Sometimes an older battery can affect the performance of a device, yes, this is true for anything that runs off battery power. Not really sure by how much though. My wife still uses the 2018 iPad Pro and it does everything she needs it to.
Note to everyone: if you’re going to compare something, remove variables that contradict your point. For example - have the same background on both for an actual comparison (not a dark background on the “worse” iPad and bright background on the new)
@@Graf-XTechReviews you were comparing display technology with the point of newer being better (which I agree with) but a side by side comparison has more impact and holds up to more scrutiny if their starting points are the same aka same settings, background picture, brightness, etc. that way you can truly see the difference in performance under exact same circumstances. Any variables that impact an outcome (example - darker background equates to visually lower brightness and less contrast vs bright colorful background visually appears as higher performance and more vibrant) should be consistent across both devices so the measurement in performance increase from old to new device is accurate and not skewed by perception.
While I get that completely, when it came to the part of the video where I was more directly comparing the screens, I made sure they were both displaying the same test video at the same time. So I guess I could’ve had them have a matched background the whole time, but I don’t think that would’ve actually effected my tests much
Great video. How you only have 415 subscribers (now 416) don’t know. You need to promote your channel more because you’re really good at this. Thanks for the review; you convinced me not to upgrade just yet. My 2018 IPad Pro works just fine when taking notes in meetings, consuming content and email. Apple might have made a mistake by making such a great product in 2018 that there’s no reason to upgrade 6 years later.
Absolutely! If you can do what you need to on it then there is no point in spending your money! I’m glad you found the video informative! I appreciate you saying that I should promote more and that I’m good at this! It means a lot! I’m working on that! In the mean time feel free to share my videos to others and help more people see my videos! Thanks again!
i mean, the iPad Pro 2018 is still a top iPad, the only problem with these iPads is still iPadOS the software is still not that good to replace a laptop in my opinion it is only worth something if you want an OLED display and a bit more software support as well as better performance, I would rather go for a MacBook Pro M3 for most
Yeah there are definitely still things that iPadOS can’t do. And if you’re someone that needs those MacOS features then you still need a Mac. However, I do think iPadOS continues getting better. Even in iPadOS 18 the files app received some very necessary improvements. And for what I do, the iPad allows me to not have to have a laptop. But I totally get that is not gonna work for everyone yet. Thanks for sharing!
Hello!! Thank you I was waiting for this video I have iPad Pro 2018 and precisely I find that the image quality is exceptional on the iPad oled ´but well it’s logical, after you have to have the use to spend so much money, it would be necessary if you can make a comparison with iPad Air iPad Pro 2018 and iPad oled 2024. For me the best choice purchase remains the iPad Air in 95% of uses and cases what do you think of my argument on which iPad to choose my friend.
Yeah, I completely see what you are saying. I do think there are a lot of people you could totally be happy and use the iPad Air and it’d be perfect for them. Although, I do think right now something that makes it hard for me to recommend an iPad Air instead of an older Pro, is that it doesn’t have ProMotion where the Pros have had it for a very long time. But there are some people who can’t tell the difference and for them, I think it’s a great buy and there definitely nothing bad about the Airs.
@@Graf-XTechReviews I have a 2018 iPad Pro and I agree with you the promotion it’s hard to do without it as soon as you’ve tasted it everything seems all fluid with this option, but I favor two things the quality of the Cali ration of the image and the fluidity, during the tasks I’m going to accomplish, but very sincerely the iPads are not powerful enough, compared to MacBook Pro where you can do a lot of stains without wasting time, 8 go ram is not enough it takes minimum 16 ram, for video editing.
Yeah I’d agree that especially for certain kinds of video editing, a MacBook Pro with more than 8 GB of RAM is going to be a lot faster. Although I would say that I think that it is definitely still doing doable for smaller projects to use an iPad with 8 GB. For example, I was able to edit one of my videos with no issues on an older M1 iPad Pro with only 8 GB of RAM. But the reason I got the 1 TB version for myself was so I can edit videos ever better, so I agree 👍 I thought I’d also let you know the next video I should be posting will be testing the nano-texture display in direct sunlight. So don’t worry, it’s still coming!
@@Graf-XTechReviews Thank you very much because you are passionate about your tests and I feel it because for me you are the only one to make videos quite advanced in terms of the use of the iPad in several episodes with different iPad and concrete test. And that I am asking for this type of Videos, thank you very much for what you do, on your channel, and for those who follow you.
I just wanted to give you an update. It’s still been raining and very cloudy all this last weekend and it’s supposed to be for the next couple days. As soon as I get sunlight, I’ll be recording that video about the nano-texture display, but it may not be the next one unfortunately
I have ipad pro 2018 and until now I didn't find anything special to upgrade, especially the iPAD OS. It's still not worth giving it M1 chips 😂, so I'm waiting for iOS 19 😂 after that, maybe I will upgrade
I think it’s good to wait to see what the new software will look like especially if you don’t think that it’s wise to upgrade for what you see now. I think that is a good call for you!
I do love real world comparisons as well, however, I think that benchmarks are good for those who are looking for them and kind of understand what those scores mean for the devices. They are not my favorite thing either, but I do them for those who appreciate them. Thanks for your feedback!
Yeah I’m not a huge fan of the iPad Air’s display either. It’s also not ProMotion like the 2018 iPad Pro, which is a dealbreaker for me, but not anyone will care that much about it
I have an iPad Pro 2020 11“ (works perfectly and is used daily for surfing, TH-cam, movies, TikTok, etc.) and an older 14” Acer Chromebook Flip with touch display (also works well, but is slow compared to the iPad, so it is rarely used). My consideration: A) Sell IPad Pro 2020 11“ and buy IPad Pro 2024 13” (1460€) or B) Keep the old iPad and get a MacBook Air 2024 (1149€ in the 8/256 or 1579€ for 16/512 variant, the 8/256 would probably be enough for me but 16/512 would be more future-proof). C) Budget option: buy a new, cheaper but faster Chromebook I'm tending to the new Ipad 13” but I don't know if it would be maybe too big for me. The advantage here would be that I travel a lot and would only have to lug around 1 device in addition to the company laptop. It would probably still be a good fit for me to have everything in one device, I've been using the current iPad for 3 years and have always been able to do everything with it. It would also be interesting to have something bigger than before (11“), although I really like the current 11” size, it fits in a smaller bag and can always be taken with me. With the other option with the MacBook Air, I'm afraid that I might regret the decision and, like the Chromebook, it's not used very often despite its speed. The fact that it doesn't have a touch/flip display makes the decision even less attractive, of course. However, I would like to try it out and maybe it would be a useful addition to the old iPad, which will probably work well for a few more years. I have a Bluetooth keyboard on my iPad, but I rarely use it because I always have to pick it up and it's too complicated. The MacBook would certainly be more compact. What do you think? It's really not easy.
Ok, this is my best recommendation. I’d go with option A. Whether or not it is the 11” or 13”, I think it would be good to go with the iPad. This why it gives you the option down the road to get a keyboard case if you really want that and want something more compact then the external Bluetooth keyboard. I think the next best is to go with the MacBook Air. But personally option A is what I’d say is the best out of those 3.
@@Graf-XTechReviews thank you very much for your help! 🙂 This is also the option that I find the best - your opinion is a good confirmation.🤗 About the channel and the videos: I really like the way you make your videos. I've only just found the channel, but I think it's really great! 👍
That’s awesome! I’m glad I could help confirm that for you! I’m glad you have been enjoying the channel so far! Please if you have any other comments or suggestions or things you want tested with the new iPads, let me know!
The 2018 pro is still the biggest leap i’ve ever seen in ipad versions
I think that’s totally fair to say. The only way that I would say it differently is if the new iPadOS software has some game changing exclusive features for the new ones with the M4 chip. But I completely agree with how things are right now
@@Graf-XTechReviews that is whats holding me seriously back from the m4. My carriers got in for preorder
I don’t think I will upgrade. Yes the M4 iPad Pro is more powerful, but what am I going to use the extra power and performance for if I just consume content? Yes the M4 iPad Pro is thinner and lighter, but that’s just 20 grams lighter than the 2018 model. I normally just use it inside my own home. Even if I do decide to get the M4 iPad Pro, Apple doesn’t allow you trade in your Magic Keyboard or Apple Pencil and it’s not compatible with the new M4 iPad Pro, meaning you have to spend even more money just to have a extra function row keys and a Apple Pencil which I hardly use. There’s only like 10 triple AAA games on the App Store that only works with the M chip models but those games have bad reviews. The emulation still runs well on the 2018 iPad Pro model.
That makes sense to me! Sounds like based on your use case, there’s no real reason to upgrade.
@@Graf-XTechReviews I’m interested to know what does the iPad Pro 2018 screen look compare to the iPad Pro 2024 screen look side by side, when watching TH-cam, Anime, Netflix and etc. Both with the lights on and off. Any chance you can do a test on that?
I don’t like to watch content with reflection. So I put a matte screen protector on. And watch in my room with the lights off.
I will have a much more in depth video on just the new display and what the nano-textured display changes coming soon. I want to do some outdoor tests as well but I gotta wait until it stops raining in my area😂
@@Graf-XTechReviews I’m looking forward to it :)
I guess it would be the best to wait for WWDC and see what they'll bring there. Hopefully something matching the hardware capabilities.
Perfect video! This is what people most people need to watch.
Thank you! I do my best! Let me know if there are any other comparisons or details with the new iPads you want me to explore
I bought the 11 inch iPad Pro with OLED Display. I used it for 6 days indoors and outdoors in bright sunlight didn’t really notice much of a difference between the 11 and my 7 year old 10.5 inch iPad Pro. I used my $1,100 refund and bought Apple stock so I too could benefit from the suckers that purchase the new products. Just updated my 7 year old iPad Pro to 17.5.1 latest software so I guess I’m good for another 7 years.🤷♂️
Hey, if that does everything you need it to, then that is perfect, I’m glad you don’t have to spend that money. For me, I use my iPad as a crucial part of my workflow and as my video editor so the extra speed along is worth it to me. However, I know that many people are gonna be just fine with older models, thanks for sharing!
Why u got ambient mode on on the lcd ipad 🤦🏽♂️ the ack bars gonna be changing colors
Thank you that’s a good catch! I didn’t see that! I will be more careful in the future. If you want to see a more accurate example of that LCD screen, check out the comparison in this video:
th-cam.com/video/iMs18JdZAvc/w-d-xo.html
So ipad pro m4 worth to buy? and will it worth for at least 5 years useable?
I mean will this ipad wortg for long term use
I think so! Obviously I’m still only in my first week of using it, but so far, it is really good and I can totally see this lasting for a good 5 years kinda like the 2018 iPad
Yes!!!!!
I just upgraded to the M4 11inch… but it’s going back. Sure, the OLED screen is great, for lots of things - nice blacks, light parts shine, and some videos and photos look amazing. BUT, two things really annoy me, to the point I find them unacceptable. Firstly, the sound is actually slightly worse than on my 2018 iPad Pro - sounds like tiny speakers inside a tin can (a bit echoey and a bit muffled)… probably because they had to squeeze the speakers into a thinner body (which nobody asked for). Secondly, as a photographer, I don’t appreciate the stupidly rounded corners to the display… apart from losing a small bit of corner real estate, a standard full-frame DSLR photo now clips at every corner as it overlaps the curve - no more clean rectangular images. This is less “pro”… no pro photographer, videographer or designer needs curved corners - it makes zero sense. It was just about okay on the previous models (pro and not pro), but this is just stupid and annoying. Lastly, the extra thinness, once in a case, is irrelevant… and the weight difference is minimal… better to have left it the same (perfectly fine) thickness and squeezed in a larger battery (I can say that I don’t seem to be getting great battery life, but can’t be sure it’s worse than before). I do not know why all the reviews I’ve read ignore the corners issue - this is supposed to be a “pro” device, and those are anything but pro - or is it just me? BTW, the Magic Keyboard is great (if stupidly expensive), but removing the tablet when you want a tablet and not a laptop is too fiddly, especially if you want to transfer it into a case for protection… better to buy a MacBook Air. The MacBook Pro makes all the right design choices for professional users… the iPad Pro does the opposite.
Well it sounds like you made the right choice for yourself. I’m gonna be honest the speakers sound great to me and I can’t hear anything tinny about them, but that’s just me. I actually agree with you about the thinness. Especially for the 11”, it’s hardly any different and I’d prefer more battery. I’ve never really heard the rounded corners being an issue for anyone, but that’s very interesting thanks for letting me know. I understand why you’re seeing that as less pro for you, but I use mine professionally and I love the rounded corners. It mostly depends on what kind of professional things you want to do on this iPad. So, for you, I agree that it makes more sense to have a MacBook, although, I still think there are plenty of people who could use their iPad instead. Thank you for the very informative feedback! You brought up some really interesting points that I haven’t heard before! Very helpful!
@@Graf-XTechReviews @Graf-XTechReviews as a photographer and designer, I prefer to see my work without a rounded frame imposed on everything in accordance with Apple's design aesthetic... it detracts from the blank canvas that creators need... Loading up standard size Raw photos from a DSLR, each image now includes clipped edges at the top and bottom where the newer more rounded corners encroach on them... The design choices are anything but pro... I would have appreciated another port, perhaps, or longer battery life... all the hype about the thickness is total nonsense.
I completely agree that the thinness is way over-hyped. I see how that makes sense for you to not have the rounded corners, thank you. And yeah better battery and more ports would have been far far better than thinness.
Personally, I upgraded, for the sole reason that I only have 64 GB and this is not cutting it anymore. Otherwise, my 2018 would have been perfectly fine. I did not opt for the new Air, because I couldn't stand downgrading to Touch ID.
That makes sense. I’m glad they also got rid of 64 GB as an option for the air this year
Still fine with 11” ipad pro 2018. Have the mahnetic pencil and the magic keyboard. Will keep it until it brakes, by then i’ll buy the 11” M4 ipad pro when other M5+ ipad pros have come out. One question though, is the new m4 ipad pro compatible with my old 1st gen magic keyboard?
No, unfortunately when they made them slightly thinner and redesigned, they changed where all the magnets are placed so it stay on the old style. But I’m glad that the 2018 iPad is working great for you still!
@@Graf-XTechReviews Oof, so much for longevity! will have to buy everything new then when the old setup brakes. T.T
I agree it is unfortunate that the old one doesn’t work with the new iPad’s however, to me it doesn’t make me feel like they don’t have longevity. Basically every new iPhone has a slightly different shape and therefore needs a new case. So I think it’s pretty cool that the same keyboard case worked with many many models of the iPad (4 models of pros, 3 models of airs) and it even still works with the newest iPad Air. But I do get what you are saying. It would’ve been better if the old one still worked.
@@Graf-XTechReviews Fr, but there's a huge difference between the price of an iPhone case and a magic keyboard + new apple pencil. BUt i get your point, it'ill probably work with more generations of iPads too
i thought the bezels were smaller??? maybe a little bit? ill keep my 2018 pro
There were rumors about that, but it doesn’t appear to be any smaller. If the 2018 iPad still works for you, then absolutely keep it! No reason to upgrade if you don’t need it 👍
@@Graf-XTechReviews great review!
Just sold my 2018 11" iPad Pro for $400 and got this new m4. For $600 I think it’s well worth the upgrade
Yeah that’s awesome! You’re gonna love your new iPad! And I’m sure it’s gonna last you a while just like the 2018 one
2018 11” iPad Pros are selling for less than that on Amazon. Somebody got ripped off.
@@tom_foolery93for Amazon renewed? That sounds sketchy af lol
What did you do with the Magic Keyboard and Apple Pencil? Did you have to sell that too?
I’ve seen the iPad Pro 11 3rd gen refurbished sell for $600. That’s insane.
Fantastic video, really informative. Keep up the good work!
Thanks! I’m glad it was helpful!
You should compare the m1 to m4 iPad. The m series chip is a huge leap
I do have a video comparing the M1 to the M4 actually, go ahead and check it out!
@ awesome just came across your channel I’ll check it out!
Sounds good!
The base model of 2018 is 649 pounds, and it’s 1299 for the m4 one, the price is exactly doubled, did the power doubled?
I would say it probably is almost double the power and with the better screen and everything that does make sense. My recommendation is just see what is compared between them in the video and see if those features and capabilities are really worth the extra price
im on my way for upgrade
Awesome! What model did you get?
The only problem for me is that I only use my iPad Pro with the Smart Keyboard Folio and the new one doesn’t have one… so for me it would actually be a downgrade on that level but I’m going to get the Vision Pro so maybe I won’t even need an iPad anymore 🤷♂️😂
Fair enough! That makes sense, I’ve never really liked the Smart Folio keyboard but I’m glad it works for some!
I love this review since I have a 2018 Pro and I've been wondering if I should upgrade. Thanks for helping with the decision to upgrade! I had a 12.9" 2018 Pro, but decided to order the 11" M4 Pro. I think the slightly smaller size will be nice for drawing on the go.
Yeah I like the extra portability of the smaller size! I’m glad this was helpful!
I've heard some news how the new ipad sounds tinny compared to the previous ones. Is it true? I'm coming from a 2017 pro and I'm holding back if the speaker rumors are true 😭
The speakers sound great to me. I also saw a speaker test from MaxTech and they said they sound the same as old pros. I can do some more in depth testing on it, but from what I found it sounds the exact same
@@Graf-XTechReviews thankyou bro!
Definitely more tinny... more distorted... less "musical". That and the more rounded corners are the main reasons mine is going back tomorrow.
I think it depends on size you get. Between the 11” ones, there isn’t really a change, but with the 13” sizes, it might have gotten a little worse
New visitor to your site and I found you did a very nice, detailed and real-world comparison. Just what I was looking for as I own a 2018 iPad Pro 12.9.
That’s awesome! I’m really glad that it was helpful. I have a goal to be informative and have actual experiences and to discuss use cases that I have come across on my own. I’m glad I seemed to meet that for you, thanks for sharing!
Thanks for great review and comparison. I'm waiting for what they'll bring with a new iPad OS update. Hopefully it will match the progress of hardware.
Yeah I think it’s wise to wait for that update, especially if you aren’t very happy with the state of iPadOS currently. I’m personally hoping for some big improvements as well!
Everybody with an OLED screen loves referencing the content created with pure blacks in the background, but day today when do you watch content like that? Now this is coming from somebody who uses an iPad as an art tablet and pure blacks would be fantastic for more than just content. But you do have to think about the fact that you don't ever really watch anything with pure blacks in it
2018 has lidar. 2018 has ambient color sensor for brightness and color correction. 2018 sounds better for mics
It does depend on the person as well. I have a friend that I showed the new iPad to and without showing anything “pure black” he immediately loved the new screen and could tell that it was much higher quality. But if it doesn’t make a big difference for you, then totally don’t upgrade to a new one and save some money! They are too expensive for anyone to upgrade just because, I think you have to be sure. Also, just really quick the 2018 does NOT have the LiDAR Scanner on the back or the ambient light sensor that is on the back; it does have one on the front but they serve slightly different functions. Thanks for the feedback! I hope my video helped you make a decision!
Great video, I would love to see some speed tests of real world things. Like exporting a video from imovie or FCP, or maybe more on thunderbolt port and its benefits. But thanks for this comparospn it was very well done.
That’s a great idea. I didn’t do an export comparison because the 2018 iPad Pro can’t get Final Cut Pro, but I suppose I could’ve done it in iMovie, just totally didn’t think of that😂 I am doing a comparison between the new one and the M1 iPad Pro and I’ll be sure to include an export test. Thanks for the suggestions!
Ipad pro m4 hella priced
I'll buy when ipad m6 will come out
Yeah fair enough! They definitely got pricey!
Great video man, very informative! 😃
Thanks! I’m super glad that it was helpful!
Before this video, I wasn’t aware of the changes to the front facing camera for video calls. This is a game changer for me since I make lots of video calls with my clients, and the old off center camera was terrible for this. This feature alone (well, along with getting more storage and a newer battery) made me make the jump. This probably isn’t a worthwhile upgrade for other owners or 2018 and up iPad Pros, but the center front camera made it worth the money for me, Thanks for the great and honest video review.
That’s awesome I’m glad the video helped and you were able to learn something new with it! Thanks for sharing!
Good video! I currently have the 2018 iPad Pro but I don't think I'll be upgrading this year. I haven't used an iPad in a long time since I finished school.
I think that’s wise then. No need to spend money if you never use it!
I got a new battery put in for $90 and will not be upgrading. For my use it’s not worth the upgrade. Plus buying all new accessories? Hard pass.
Yeah that makes sense, I’m glad that was a cheap way to extend the life of your iPad. Thanks for sharing!
Hi man, I’ve tested the 2018 and 2024 (no nano-texture) 11” models and there’s no such a big difference as in your video.
That’s interesting, I want to make sure that I’m providing the best information possible. Could you give me some specifics as to how there isn’t much of a difference?
I have the 11 Inch iPad Pro and mine has a big cameras in the back so it’s like a 2122 iPad because it has the cameras just like the new iPad
Nice! Yeah if it has 2 cameras in the back, it’s either the 2020 model, the 2021 model, or the 2022 model. And now the new iPad Pros have a different camera bump with only one camera in it
I want to upgrade my 2018 Pro, but I only use it to consume content, less and less each day.
I think I’ll go to apple to replace the battery to make it last a few more years.
do you know if the ipad performance gets slow down if the battery is too old? ( similar to what happens with iphones )
Sometimes an older battery can affect the performance of a device, yes, this is true for anything that runs off battery power. Not really sure by how much though. My wife still uses the 2018 iPad Pro and it does everything she needs it to.
Note to everyone: if you’re going to compare something, remove variables that contradict your point. For example - have the same background on both for an actual comparison (not a dark background on the “worse” iPad and bright background on the new)
So what variable do you think I had that contradicted my point? I’m a little confused on how the example you gave applies to my video
@@Graf-XTechReviews you were comparing display technology with the point of newer being better (which I agree with) but a side by side comparison has more impact and holds up to more scrutiny if their starting points are the same aka same settings, background picture, brightness, etc. that way you can truly see the difference in performance under exact same circumstances. Any variables that impact an outcome (example - darker background equates to visually lower brightness and less contrast vs bright colorful background visually appears as higher performance and more vibrant) should be consistent across both devices so the measurement in performance increase from old to new device is accurate and not skewed by perception.
While I get that completely, when it came to the part of the video where I was more directly comparing the screens, I made sure they were both displaying the same test video at the same time. So I guess I could’ve had them have a matched background the whole time, but I don’t think that would’ve actually effected my tests much
Loved this practical comparison! Way better than M2 vs M4 which isn’t really applicable to most ppl 😂
Thanks! I agree, I don’t think most people with an M2 are looking to upgrade. I’m glad this was helpful!
Great video. How you only have 415 subscribers (now 416) don’t know. You need to promote your channel more because you’re really good at this. Thanks for the review; you convinced me not to upgrade just yet. My 2018 IPad Pro works just fine when taking notes in meetings, consuming content and email. Apple might have made a mistake by making such a great product in 2018 that there’s no reason to upgrade 6 years later.
Absolutely! If you can do what you need to on it then there is no point in spending your money! I’m glad you found the video informative! I appreciate you saying that I should promote more and that I’m good at this! It means a lot! I’m working on that! In the mean time feel free to share my videos to others and help more people see my videos! Thanks again!
Finally some common sense video. Subbed
Thank you! I’m glad that my video was informative!
Great Review! thanks :)
I’m glad it was helpful!
i mean, the iPad Pro 2018 is still a top iPad, the only problem with these iPads is still iPadOS the software is still not that good to replace a laptop in my opinion it is only worth something if you want an OLED display and a bit more software support as well as better performance, I would rather go for a MacBook Pro M3 for most
Yeah there are definitely still things that iPadOS can’t do. And if you’re someone that needs those MacOS features then you still need a Mac. However, I do think iPadOS continues getting better. Even in iPadOS 18 the files app received some very necessary improvements. And for what I do, the iPad allows me to not have to have a laptop. But I totally get that is not gonna work for everyone yet. Thanks for sharing!
I unfortunately had to due to battery issues. Otherwise my Ipad pro 2018 would have been perfect.
Yeah that makes sense, I wish it was easier to do a battery swap on iPads!
Hello!! Thank you I was waiting for this video I have iPad Pro 2018 and precisely I find that the image quality is exceptional on the iPad oled ´but well it’s logical, after you have to have the use to spend so much money, it would be necessary if you can make a comparison with iPad Air iPad Pro 2018 and iPad oled 2024. For me the best choice purchase remains the iPad Air in 95% of uses and cases what do you think of my argument on which iPad to choose my friend.
Yeah, I completely see what you are saying. I do think there are a lot of people you could totally be happy and use the iPad Air and it’d be perfect for them. Although, I do think right now something that makes it hard for me to recommend an iPad Air instead of an older Pro, is that it doesn’t have ProMotion where the Pros have had it for a very long time. But there are some people who can’t tell the difference and for them, I think it’s a great buy and there definitely nothing bad about the Airs.
@@Graf-XTechReviews I have a 2018 iPad Pro and I agree with you the promotion it’s hard to do without it as soon as you’ve tasted it everything seems all fluid with this option, but I favor two things the quality of the Cali ration of the image and the fluidity, during the tasks I’m going to accomplish, but very sincerely the iPads are not powerful enough, compared to MacBook Pro where you can do a lot of stains without wasting time, 8 go ram is not enough it takes minimum 16 ram, for video editing.
Yeah I’d agree that especially for certain kinds of video editing, a MacBook Pro with more than 8 GB of RAM is going to be a lot faster. Although I would say that I think that it is definitely still doing doable for smaller projects to use an iPad with 8 GB. For example, I was able to edit one of my videos with no issues on an older M1 iPad Pro with only 8 GB of RAM. But the reason I got the 1 TB version for myself was so I can edit videos ever better, so I agree 👍 I thought I’d also let you know the next video I should be posting will be testing the nano-texture display in direct sunlight. So don’t worry, it’s still coming!
@@Graf-XTechReviews Thank you very much because you are passionate about your tests and I feel it because for me you are the only one to make videos quite advanced in terms of the use of the iPad in several episodes with different iPad and concrete test. And that I am asking for this type of Videos, thank you very much for what you do, on your channel, and for those who follow you.
I just wanted to give you an update. It’s still been raining and very cloudy all this last weekend and it’s supposed to be for the next couple days. As soon as I get sunlight, I’ll be recording that video about the nano-texture display, but it may not be the next one unfortunately
I have ipad pro 2018 and until now
I didn't find anything special to upgrade, especially the iPAD OS. It's still not worth giving it M1 chips 😂, so I'm waiting for iOS 19 😂 after that, maybe I will upgrade
I think it’s good to wait to see what the new software will look like especially if you don’t think that it’s wise to upgrade for what you see now. I think that is a good call for you!
2018 ipad with screen protector .......
Yes, it does have a screen protector, it’s my wife’s so I didn’t think it was worth taking it off just for one video
y'all need to start ignoring benchmarks. They're USELESS. Show us real world comparisons.
I do love real world comparisons as well, however, I think that benchmarks are good for those who are looking for them and kind of understand what those scores mean for the devices. They are not my favorite thing either, but I do them for those who appreciate them. Thanks for your feedback!
2018 mics sound better than 2024 mics
That’s interesting, I personally can’t tell much of a difference. Is there a particular part of the 2018 mics that sound better to you?
わかりやすい解説、ありがとう
I’m glad that you were able to get a lot out of the video!
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I want to switch from my 2020 11 just for OLED screen
That is fair! The screen is really amazing!
No Difference 😂
Yeah fair enough! I do really like the new Apple Pencil and the M4 chip is really cool, but I definitely wish there were a lot more differences
well,ipad air sucks.I have the 2018 and is still the same display.
Yeah I’m not a huge fan of the iPad Air’s display either. It’s also not ProMotion like the 2018 iPad Pro, which is a dealbreaker for me, but not anyone will care that much about it
@@Graf-XTechReviews i would like to buy the nanotexture one but is way less resistent than regular glass display,so is a turn off for me
Yes the durability is definitely the biggest downside for sure
I have an iPad Pro 2020 11“ (works perfectly and is used daily for surfing, TH-cam, movies, TikTok, etc.) and an older 14” Acer Chromebook Flip with touch display (also works well, but is slow compared to the iPad, so it is rarely used).
My consideration:
A) Sell IPad Pro 2020 11“ and buy IPad Pro 2024 13” (1460€) or
B) Keep the old iPad and get a MacBook Air 2024 (1149€ in the 8/256 or 1579€ for 16/512 variant, the 8/256 would probably be enough for me but 16/512 would be more future-proof).
C) Budget option: buy a new, cheaper but faster Chromebook
I'm tending to the new Ipad 13” but I don't know if it would be maybe too big for me. The advantage here would be that I travel a lot and would only have to lug around 1 device in addition to the company laptop.
It would probably still be a good fit for me to have everything in one device, I've been using the current iPad for 3 years and have always been able to do everything with it. It would also be interesting to have something bigger than before (11“), although I really like the current 11” size, it fits in a smaller bag and can always be taken with me.
With the other option with the MacBook Air, I'm afraid that I might regret the decision and, like the Chromebook, it's not used very often despite its speed. The fact that it doesn't have a touch/flip display makes the decision even less attractive, of course. However, I would like to try it out and maybe it would be a useful addition to the old iPad, which will probably work well for a few more years. I have a Bluetooth keyboard on my iPad, but I rarely use it because I always have to pick it up and it's too complicated. The MacBook would certainly be more compact.
What do you think? It's really not easy.
Ok, this is my best recommendation. I’d go with option A. Whether or not it is the 11” or 13”, I think it would be good to go with the iPad. This why it gives you the option down the road to get a keyboard case if you really want that and want something more compact then the external Bluetooth keyboard. I think the next best is to go with the MacBook Air. But personally option A is what I’d say is the best out of those 3.
@@Graf-XTechReviews thank you very much for your help! 🙂 This is also the option that I find the best - your opinion is a good confirmation.🤗
About the channel and the videos: I really like the way you make your videos. I've only just found the channel, but I think it's really great! 👍
That’s awesome! I’m glad I could help confirm that for you! I’m glad you have been enjoying the channel so far! Please if you have any other comments or suggestions or things you want tested with the new iPads, let me know!
@@Graf-XTechReviews thank you 😊