Kioti Loader Lift Test - How Much Does This Firewood Weigh?
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- Today we go weigh our firewood IBC tote loaded with red oak and see how well the Kioti ck3510 lifts it and see how well the Toyota Tacoma hauls it. Kioti CK3510 Loader Lift Test
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I use the totes as well and I love them. I would definitely recommend a 3/4 ton. Nice video!
Good luck with whatever you come up with Adam, delivery of firewood is sometimes a problem for sure. You are being safe about it and that’s what counts. Be safe, Fred.
Thanks Adam! Yup, that truck was crying out, I think. LOL. Some good stats to know - the tote carries about 1/3 cord and weighs about 1,500 lbs. Thanks for taking the time to share the info with us. Cheers!
Thanks GP
Be aware the tote empty will weigh around 100 lbs, with plastic insert 115 to 123 short or tall tote
I can pick a full tote of loosely stacked unseasoned firewood with my LX3310. I was surprised for sure, didn’t think it would. Thanks for the video
Great video I have the same tractor and love seeing real life comparisons! I have a F350 and I love my truck, your pallet of wood wouldn’t have changed the plane of the truck. Also saves time carrying larger loads instead of several smaller loads! But good look with your search and look forward to more videos!
Looks great adam!!!!
We fill the totes also and stack them 2 high. Customer sees the clean dried wood. Easy to handle. If the customer wants the tote it is a deposit added on to the cost and if returned they get the deposit back. Need to be careful if any sharp edges for a customer on the tote where you cut it. And yes they will freeze down.Had trouble last year with winter freezing rain in them so at least could put some inside to thaw out before selling. Some of the plastic is cut in half and goes for garden container
1 ton way to go. Great video.
I was surprised when you switched from the rotary cutter to the box blade for ballast. I would have bet the cutter weighed more and the fact that it hangs farther back would have been the better choice for ballast but I guess I was wrong. Nice video and demo. Love Kioti.
Yeah that’s why I originally had the brush hog on the back. I thought since it was longer it would be better but I was wring as well. The box blade seemed to keep the back tires on the ground better
Our setups are so similar it's nearly funny. I have a 2016 single cab Toyota. We call them a Hilux but I'm pretty sure it's exactly the same vehicle.
The single cab is rated for a bit over 1000kg (2000ish pounds) and takes one of those really comfortably. Hardly even sits any lower.
I'm running a Husky 365 that I've had for about 8 years.
That splitter you have is a beautiful thing. Much more efficient than mine but I don't know how it would go with Australian timber. Those logs look really straight and easy to split. Probably nice enough to mill for timber. Our timber quite often has a very tight and twisted grain.
Love your work man!
Yeah since I have the double cab and 6 ft bed my Payload capacity goes way down. You can’t load as much with that long of a wheelbase
Poor Taco 😞 ........just messin with ya! I love my Tacoma. You sure took,it to it’s bed limit....with the composite bed, I was surprised when it came back at the end of the bed, not over the axle. Wow....tuff little trucks they are.
Yeah I went up a steep little hill and even though I had it ratchet strapped down it still slid on me. Obviously not a heavy enough duty ratchet strap for 1,520 lbs
Nice informative video. I think I like your tractor.
Don't forget that spec is without bucket at the pin. Subtract your fork frame and forks. And add in the 4ft away from the pin and this is very impressive indeed.
That’s a great way to use those totes to store the wood. Looks neat too. I’m loving my Kioti so far. Just finished cutting about 4 ac with it Thursday. Land is a little rough but it handled business.
My field is pretty rough too. I’m looking into getting it plowed and disced to smooth it iut
Hometown Acres I’m think the same thing. You going to try it with the tractor or get a big one to come in?
Probably hire a local farmer to come in with a big tractor. I don’t have the weight to pull a plow or disc heavy enough to do anything meaningful
Hometown Acres I see. Good thinking.
I've ran 1/2 ton trucks for ten years, finally bought a 3/4 ton truck when i decided that i was going into firewood more seriously, also bought a ck4010 and a 20ft trailer, the 3/4 ton is a game changer, don't know why I was so hell bent of the 1/2 tons for so long. I still have a 2015 f150 - company truck that I use everyday, its a night and day difference in drive feeling when I hop into my 3/4 gmc, I prefer the bigger truck, especially when hauling rounds and towing.
please consider weighing this same bin after 1 year and again at 2 years. That would answer many of my "oak" firewood questions. Thanks for all you do
I will try to remember. I have this one earmarked for a reweigh next fall
Impressive toyota! Haha great video Adam!
Beating the snot out of the tacoma for sure haha but she continues to take it
Noticed you’re load shifted to the back of your Toyota. Nice totes , could be very good in marketing advantage.
Adam, I love Toyota's. I have had Tacoma's 4runners and a tundra. I loved them all and put lots of miles on them. My beater now is a 99 4runner with 322000 on it. But I broke down and bought an f250 diesel a couple of years ago and there is NO comparison. Hauling wood, coal , my tractor it doesn't blink. 465 hp with loads of torque and it gets 21 miles to the gallon highway, 19 around home. A lot of money though. My company pays me milage and that almost pays for the truck. Thanks for the video
Yeah I’d love to get a diesel but they are so expensive. And I hear maintenance on them is expensive too
tacomas have a bed made put of cheap plastics from 05 up they are now only grocery trucks. i use to love tacomas too untill toyota fkd em up
Good info, cheers
Good stuff
Its a beast. A 3/4 ton would be a wise choice. 1500lbs is pushing the limit of most half tons already especially with gear and passengers. You do not get a great deal more capacity with half ton.
How much do your forks weigh? Seems like an accurate spec from Kioti. Good video as always Adam👍
Hank I completely forgot to consider the weight of the forks. They are 320 lbs so 1520 plus 320 is 1,840 lbs. Damn the Kioti did better than I originally thought. Thanks for the reminder
Great info, I love my Tundra.......need to get a new tractor
Stout tractor and one peppy truck. My younger brother was a die hard Ford man. In 2013 he bought a Toyota Tundra, and he says it'll handle a 16' trailer and pull his John Deere 4005 tractor which is a 40 h. p. Tractor and weighs in about 3200 lbs. as easy as his old Ford F 250. He said the Toyota did better than the Ford. Good video Adam my friend.
The current tundra seems a little outdated. If I was gonna get a tundra I’d wait until they came out with something new, and then wait a couple more years and pick up a used one. I never buy new cars. Always a year or 2 old
You have to watch picking up the totes in the winter. I take some of the liners and cut them so they lay flat and set the tote on them. If I don't have the liner I set the tote on wood. If you set them in the grass they will freeze to the ground in the winter. You will break them up trying to pick them up.
Thanks for the tip. I will have to start doing this. Although this red oak won’t be ready until fall of 2021
Adam, great video. I thought that we may see the little tractor doing cartwheels with that tote on the forks. Very impressive left capabilities for its size. That spreadsheet you made up when deciding on what tractor to buy paid off.......I think a “gold star” needs to be added to the lift section on the Kioti tractor. Cheers
Yes. More emphasis should be put on loader lift for the type of work Im doing with it. It is a very capable tractor. I would have been really disappointed if I bought anything else. Unless it was bigger of course
Look how far u came man
Pretty wild ride
I did 4 pallets of sod, wish I had a decent trailer... so I did one at a time in my F-150. They were in the middle weight class around 2,300 pounds and I had decent squat but the truck handled it well. I miss my Tacoma big time, but the 1,100-1,600 pound payload made me feel like I was being destructive and abusive to the truck on those occasions where I worked it hard.
Yeah that’s how I feel. I know I’ll miss the tacoma. When I bought it I was planning on driving it 300,000 miles and not having a truck payment for 15 years. I may hang on to it a while longer. It still does everything I ask of it I just don’t want to feel like I’m beating the snot out of it
Those are nice little trucks. Little being the operative word. I was thinking you need a full size truck throughout and heard you say it. Lol. Half ton works for most and you could get by, but I have found myself putting it mine in towing situations I shouldnt have. Especially for what your doing I would definately go with 3/4 ton . Good video . Thanks.
Yeah it’s on the wish list for sure. Until then we’ll keep plugging away with the tacoma. They are tough little trucks
@@HometownAcres yeah great trucks, and hold their value as well.
Been watching your channel. Just bought 6 totes. I just love firewood, thanks for all the good info. Your tidiness and concise explanation is inspiring. Subscribing and liking. Let me know if you are interested in solar. I’d love to see you put a pencil to that. God bless!
-solarman in GA
I think solar would be awesome. I’ve always thought about it but it’s a big upfront cost
Had a 2020 Tacoma. Had 30 bags of 30kg small rocks to get home… what a bad idea. Had about 20 minutes of travel to go and i would not have driven more… but it did the job. Never again :)
Did you think about a dump trailer for hauling your wood??
I would work with what you have. The tractor has to really work to get up to the bed, trailer is much lower, some you can drive into. Then the dump will really help out when customers want it dumped & won't spend for stacking.
I had a 3/4ton to pull my dump trailer and went to a 1ton dully, now I pull anything.
Kioti CK3510- Lift Capacity at 59.84 in. (1,520 mm) Pivot Pin Height 1,835 lbs. (832 kg)
I have a DK 35 and was very curious if it could lift a tote with firewood!! 😎😎
A dry 1/3 cord of wood that is in a steel cage is about how heavy? I understand the 1/3 cord of wood in this video is 1,800lbs. Thank you. Great videos
Hi Adam,
Definately heavy. I am here in the PNW and wonder once your basket is full, is the wood for you or a customer? If it is for a customer, do they pick it up and unload it at there place and bring the basket back? Thanx, Ron S.
1/2 ton trucks are great because you get a smooth ride but for carrying heavy things a 3/4 ton is the way to go . I have a 1 ton and I can pull and carry just about anything I want . No worries about hurting the truck .I pull a 30ft 5th wheel with a 16ft lund behind it . No problems . I can pass anything on the highway with that rig . More truck is always better and safer .
If i were you, I would seriously consider a dump trailer. The totes are cool for around the house, but how would you unload them on a delivery? I would love a dump trailer, but I can't justify the cost. Do you have a carry all for your tractor? I love mine for firewood. You could also try pallet forks on the back of the tractor, as it should be way more stable than on the front. Great video!
Completely agree about the 3 point pallet forks. I have a set that I use to move around all my totes. Feels way more comfortable having the weight on the back tires. Plus when you do need extra ballist you just go grab a bin of wood.
Very nice video do you ever wish that you got one size up tractor like a dk for more lift I looking buying bigger tractor. I wanna move wood with it just like you do.
1520 lbs is pretty good lift for the CK3510 w/the 4010. I have the same sit up.
Just filled 5 totes. Realized the plastic could be cut in half and now covers two ibc totes
How is your tractor handling lifting 1500 lbs? I just bought a L3901 and i should be good up to just above 1500lbs. I plan on getting the tires filled and will either have the backhoe on it, or at least the box grader when i lift heavy.
Lift from the BACK of the tote. That way, you don't risk dumping wood out of the front opening.
Interesting. My 3510 was struggling with only 1200lbs of pellets
I didn't realize the taco weight that much, don't get rid of it, I have a 99 with 250,000 miles, they are good little trucks
I have had many Tacoma's over two decades and they are great trucks, built to last and are quite stout. That is especially true of the current years models with the four liter engines.
what did you do, that the basket went that far back when you got back from the weighing station?
I would look into at least a 3/4 ton. Look at the spec sheets and you'll see most half tons wont tow or carry much more than your tacoma. If you are looking for a bigger truck, definitely get a 3/4 or bigger.
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What would you estimate that tote of oak would weigh when the wood was completely dry?
Remember, when you level the tote to put it on the bed, you are adding torque to the loader. The weight is farther away from the pivot pin. The more it's tilted back, the more weight is over the pivot pin. So it probably can take 1800lb to max height, but you gotta keep that over the pivot...or with the firewood, all over you when it dumps it back and full height, haha.
Well, his set of forks on the quick attach also weigh around 320 lbs he said in one of the comments. So it's rated at 1835 lbs. I have bought a kioti similar to this one with the 4030 loader and it will pick the rear of the tractor right off the ground and the tires are weighted. So if I'm lifting heavy stuff I usually put a box blade or something on the back for extra counter weight.
@@ifyoutip Yeah I have a 3510 now and I can't imagine not having weighted tires. It's a pretty light tractor. The loader is solid, never a fear of not 'lifting' in terms of hydraulic power, only a fear of lifting the back end of the tractor haha. But yeah I keep my tiller on when I'm doing bucket work with the clay we have around here when it's wet.
Fill those rear tires with water on the kioti to help with balance
I have 600 lbs of rim guard in the back tires. Rim guard doesn’t freeze and it won’t rust out your wheels like calcium chloride
Try to get the weigh win it is at 20%. your Kioti well be fine than. Good video!
I’ll have to weight it again next June and see how much weight it dropped
Air bags buddy. I have em on my F250 cause I haul all the time. Just a better drive all the way around. And please consider a dump trailer. I’ve said it a few times now. It would be a game changer for you. I almost want to give you mine for a while just to see, but I’d miss it too much!!
Would you put air bags on a tacoma? Lol
Hey, I’m right there with ya. Just bought a 44ac property last year with a small horse farm. Between buying tractor, dump trailer, arena rake, you sometimes have to work with have!! Haha. Now I’m researching wood splitters so this land can make money instead of making me spend it!!
I'm assuming you've got rim guard (or another fluid ballast) in your tires? i'm getting a ck3510se delivered in the next week or so and curious your experience with just having the fluid for ballast and not using much behind the tractor. thanks! Ha, I should have waited till the end of the video for my answer on the 3 point ballast at least
You can certainly lift some things with nothing on the rear but I wouldn’t go to heavy or the back tires will come off the ground
@@HometownAcres you do have your rear tire filled correct?
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dang!!! 4800 lbs, my truck is almost double that.
Just bought a bigger truck. Didn’t go the 3/4 ton route. Just got an F-150 v8 5.0 with the tow package
Trying to kill the Toyota! 😆 . I figured it out years ago . You need a one ton flatbed dump. Easy loading logs with forks or blocks with bucket. You could put 3 of those baskets in and haul it with ease. That’s a nice Toyota for camping and getting grocery’s, you need a heavy duty work truck. That’s my thoughts! Good video though! Thanks for sharing Buddy
Tell me about it. Trying to decide what I want to get. Thinking I might wait and see what next years models come out with.
You might pull it on a trailer ok. That wood is heavier than I thought. I was guessing 3000 per cord.
Hey Tom, thanks for the comment. Yeah I think a trailer might be better. And yes. Red oak is really heavy.l especially when it’s green
Buy a f150 with the 5.0 in it have 3 times the truck n still have comfort best motor
❤👍 Serbia
What size is that IBC tote?
330 gallon
Keep the truck and just get a good heavy duty duel axel trailer
I just bought a heavy duty trailer duel axels from a guy with a Tacoma... No Joke lol going to make a log trailer
@@OFFGRIDwithDOUGSTACY
Lol there you go and you can haul baskets.
Do you have the tires loaded on that Kioti?
I do. About 600 lbs in the rear tires
@@HometownAcres Thanks for the response, I have a new CK3510SEHST on order and it's due in any day. The tractors are so popular, they can't keep them in stock here in Michigan. Looking forward to getting it out on my new 80 acres.
Dang 80 acres. That’s a nice chunk of land. What are you planning on doing with it
@@HometownAcres Eventually going to build on it, right now having 30 acres farmed and planning to hunt it. Great deer, turkey and duck hunting.
Very impressive loader for that size tractor. That truck is dangerous with that load. Weight distribution toward rear lifts front. Not good. Don’t even bother with 1/2. Go right to a 2500/250 and you will never go back.
That face cord + has already been on a diet, probably weigh closer to 1800 fresh off the stump.
I agree
Keep your Tacoma and load them in a trailer to haul. A single axle can haul 3500 lbs and a dually twice that.
That’s not a bad idea
Put your tote all the way to the front of the bed
Put some air bags in the back. Airlift air bags. Game chsnger
Air bags and any other type of lift in the back end are only meant to level the truck back up again with its recommended maximum load, they aren't meant to level a truck when it is overloaded. Otherwise everyone would be driving their half ton trucks about with a ton of wood on the back. Maybe they do in the U.S. and then start whinging and whining because their diff or axle breaks.
Better see if your shocks are leaking. I bet they are.
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Why not just go 1 ton, capacity to spare and heavier components for extended wear. Not much price difference
Dude come on.... You know that is WAY overloaded. The truck's payload capacity is like 1100 lbs. Someone like like you really needs a 3/4 or 1 ton pickup.
probly need check that tacoma bed now there made out of cheap plastic.
Its called get a trailer.