The court/UN are playing the world. They did not say Israel committed genocide, they used words such as risk of genocide, to prevent genocide, etc. How can Israel prevent something it already did in the past 115 days? UN needs to go.
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Great work Frank! The parts with Noura and Diana are really enlighten, for their shine energy, but because both have an incisive reading of the ruling, and a vision of what to do now... perhaps a version of the video with this two parts would be a great tool, more synthetic, to spread the word and inspire other people to act. Hugs from Berlin!
As a South African who lived through apartheid for 17 years...defeating this evil system is a political chess game...Nelson Mandela was in jail for 27 years. Strategic moves were made over a period of time and this is the 1st significant "move" at CHAMPIONSHIP level of this game. FREE PALESTINE!! AMANDLA!
The court/UN are playing the world. They did not say Israel committed genocide, they used words such as risk of genocide, to prevent genocide, etc. How can Israel prevent something it already did in the past 115 days? UN needs to go.
Frank, I'm South African and I thought our Minister of International Relations (Naledi Pandor) summarised the ruling really well and gave us all a good template/narrative to follow when sharing/discussing this result with others. You can hear her speak on S.A.B.C N.e.w.s - (I'm inserting periods/fullstops to avoid TH-cam deleting this comment, so just ignore them). Pandor welcomes ICJ order.... that's the title. She starts speaking at about the 2 and a half minute mark. It's really worth listening to it all. She speaks for 10 minutes and I wanted to recommend it to your viewers.
Thanks to you all. I am emotional too Frank . I don't know how to feel after this. We need to increase the pressure on our complicit governments 🙏🇵🇸🇿🇦❤💚🖤🤍
I think that word has, miles above us, been deemed completely banned, verboten, haram, sent to room 101. That's why some people were calling for a "pause" before and still can't say that word. It's amazing how much power clearly exists in dark dealings we have no idea about. That has been made clear quite a lot recently with regard to choice of words. Pay attention to word choice by politicians and mass media you'll be amazed. Anyway, so they are asking for a ceasefire without using that totally-forbidden word.
The court/UN are playing the world. They did not day Israel committed genocide, they used words such as risk of genocide, to prevent genocide, etc. How can Israel prevent something it already did in the past 115 days? UN needs to go.
It's politics and law, justice is just a name for that. You don't expect a normal court to be just all the time, and certainly not to be quick, especially if the complainant is a homeless immigrant and the accused is the favourite child of the governor. It is amazing it has gotten to this point to be honest, it's a sign that things are turning. Even the end of occupation is actually visible on the hazy horizon, not anymore an impossible dream.
It's so encouraging to see both Frank and Diana smile here in contrast with previous interviews when the horror of the genocide made their eyes glisten. As a viewer, I saw their anguish on screen as a reflection of my own despair in the face of Israel's unfathomable brutality in Gaza. At that time, prior to South Africa's submission to the ICJ, there seemed to be no light at the end of the tunnel. Throughout the past weeks, when listening to each of Frank's interviews (and in particular those conducted with his Palestinian guests -- Diana, Noura, and Susan), I yearned for hope when hopelessness seemed overwhelming. But today, I can see the glinting light beyond. With the legal knowledge and enormous political acumen displayed in this video, hope has been resuscitated. Thank you, Frank, for bearing witness and for your ceaseless efforts to bring crucial analyses to the world during this extraordinary moment in history.
The real tragedy is that the court has allowed a one month timeline. Is that not the same as impunity? Everyone including their dog knows Israel will not stop! The ICJ has given them a one month license to continue.
I don't think so. This is only the first part of the primary ruling. This court session is the beginning of the apartheid colony losing its impunity. Let's not forget that the number of involved judges that decided that it's a genocide, is overwhelming. This important court session that many people don't appreciate will change many many things in the road to freedom. 1. It strengthens the role of Palestinian freedom fighters. 2. It strengthens Ansar Allah role in Yemen to prevent the genocide from continuing. 3. The répétition of the imperial countries that the apartheid colony has the right to defend itself, will be far less affective and less repetetive. There will be a good reason to pretend respecting the ICJ decision to call this a genocide. 4. Neither Gazans, nor supporters against the gen*cides will be dismissed as before. 5. This case isn't over yet. It could easily evoked by SA at any time. The 77 years evil occupation will not end overnight. Let's not forget that the struggle towards freedom usually know more downs than ups, untill liberty is gained, eventually. 6. Let's not forget that legal courts jargon is different than media and our everyday language. I listened to the primary judge more than once. She is giving the occupation the chance to provide essential aid for Gazans. If this doesn't change within a month, things will drastically change within the same court.
Your clueless, do think Israel will stop the killing if the Court orders to stop today NO They will continue killing the month given is space genocide case
The court/UN are playing the world. They did not day Israel committed genocide, they used words such as risk of genocide, to prevent genocide, etc. How can Israel prevent something it already did in the past 115 days? UN needs to go.
Only so much they could’ve done with provisional measures. This affirms there’s a case to be answered & opens the door to further action from other quarters, including individual criminal prosecutions. It might as well be a ceasefire order, as the only way to comply with these orders is to stop besieging & killing civilians. Ignoring this clear legal communication makes denial of criminal intent harder to defend for those directly culpable, and indirectly backing them.
@@Cranky_Crone That is true. That is unfortunate that they did not call for a ceasefire (they could). We know that Israel will continue their genocide as they know no boundaries. Israel is lost already but they don't know it yet (their gov knows though). The court will just make it official. There was no intention all over media from hitler yet the nazis were indicted with crimes that were not legally crimes at the time (law passed a couple of years later). They got indicted just based on their actions. The gaza genocide and holocaust, not only can be indicted based on the actions Israel took (similar to germany's case) but also it has intentions from all levels of gov in English and Hebrew in different formats (video, text, kids song, news, tshirt graphics, painting, etc, etc). The Israelis think the WWII genocide was the only genocide or the greatest genocide. The world doesn't see it that way. That one was just another genocides and the one in Gaza is the newest one. They think the world MUST differentiate between the 2 genocides because? If anything, the genocide on Gaza is way worse than what Germany did. When Germany was committing genocide, there was no law to make it a crime. The law passed and It became a crime a couple of years AFTER WWII and yet, Germany was indicted! Israel is committing the genocide knowing full well it is a crime so if anything, I say this one's accountability is 100 times higher than the one Germany did! and should be punished to the highest degree possible. This is aside from humanity and morality that is lacking in all genocides regardless of the law at the time.
I was very disappointed not to have a ceasefire until Mr Schabas explained things from his perspective. Noura agrees which is comforting. True 15 to 2 was important. Israel has already said they’re not going to change a thing. No surprise there.
As a South African who lived in Palestine, l felt really relaxed and emotional hearing the decision of the ICJ. We must continue speaking out and pressurising our governments to take actions to stop this genocide. Thanks for these insightful reflections 🇿🇦🇵🇸❤️
They didn't rule for a ceasefire. That is not a good thing for the poor Gazan being slaughtered on the ground. But I still feel grateful to South Africa who tried to bring back the rule of law.
Saudi Arabia's recent war in Yemen ( with training & weapons from the U.S. ) killed approximately 344,00 Yemenis' 200,000 of whom starved to death!!! Yemen & Gaza have proven that the war strategy of starvation must be reformed in international; rules of engagement in warfare legislation to ensure that it is a war crime!! We must email or write to our government representatives in an attempt to ensure this, thank you.
ICJ has ordered against Israel before (though not in a binding case like this) and the UN has passed resolutions against Israel countless times. So don't think this alone will change much. But it is a major strike against Israel in civic power and therefore a sure boost to all those who are against Israel's crimes.
Israel lost, today marks a turning point, my three predictions for what's coming in the next one year: 1. double digit number of Global South states will cut diplomatic ties with Israel 2. Israel will be banned / expelled from multiple important international sports organizations 3. Israel will be banned from multiple prominent cultural forums, such as the misery carneval called eurovision song contest Some may think the isolation of Israel is not a big deal, but I think it very much is, that will be huge blow to the tel aviv government. Others predictions? Comment below
Thank you so much for covering this critical matter. The US is essentially mute. When Bush jr was in office, I was so ashamed to be an American when we were committing atrocities in Iraq. That shame pales in comparison to the shame and horror I feel today. I can only pray that israel will grow a heart even though I know that my prayers will never become reality.
Израиль создала огромную проблему нашему общему делу. Израиль работает создать Великий Израиль. Используя всех как хотят и как смогуть. Поэтому Израиль должен бить наказан. 🦅 ✊🏿✊🏻✊🏽
Not just the Californian case but the London case too where the icjp filed similar case against the uk government in accordance with domestic genocide law !
Any country (usa uk eu ) providing aid in terms of weapons or anything else should cease doing so immediately. Why even wait for this decision. Just stop !
It’s not that people simply wanted more. It’s that they’re dying!! Many of them have family members & friends who are being slaughtered! To say that they’re reacting like children on Christmas morning is quite cold imo.
I kinda think it’d be ok if Israel wanted to keep fighting Hamas with boots on the ground. (From all I’ve seen, Hamas are more than able to hold their own in a fair fight.) Seems the issue for the ICJ isn’t so much the armed conflict as the siege, bombing, starvation, and forced displacement of a predominantly underaged, unarmed civilian population..
And lots of people moved into Israel to find work. The descendants of these people now call themselves refugees. As long as there are countries Israel will defend itself like any other country would. @@michellenorris8471
You mean hamas? Not the Palestinians. Hamas already agreed to abide by any ceasefire, and agreed to release all hostages in return for release of Palestinian prisoners and a full withdrawal and ceasefire. Its Israel that will not agree to the terms. Well, now the ICJ has told them to stop.
They have played the victim card for too long. Anybody who does not hold the terrorist state accountable and condemns the atrocities they have committed needs to be prosecuted in international courts
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The court/UN are playing the world. They did not say Israel committed genocide, they used words such as risk of genocide, to prevent genocide, etc. How can Israel prevent something it already did in the past 115 days? UN needs to go.
Great work Frank! The parts with Noura and Diana are really enlighten, for their shine energy, but because both have an incisive reading of the ruling, and a vision of what to do now... perhaps a version of the video with this two parts would be a great tool, more synthetic, to spread the word and inspire other people to act. Hugs from Berlin!
Shame to all those who denied the genocide.
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Thank you, South Africa! The World's Moral Compass
As a South African who lived through apartheid for 17 years...defeating this evil system is a political chess game...Nelson Mandela was in jail for 27 years. Strategic moves were made over a period of time and this is the 1st significant "move" at CHAMPIONSHIP level of this game. FREE PALESTINE!! AMANDLA!
The court/UN are playing the world. They did not say Israel committed genocide, they used words such as risk of genocide, to prevent genocide, etc. How can Israel prevent something it already did in the past 115 days? UN needs to go.
Thank you Frank !
Historical day, indeed!
The world love South Africa
Frank, I'm South African and I thought our Minister of International Relations (Naledi Pandor) summarised the ruling really well and gave us all a good template/narrative to follow when sharing/discussing this result with others.
You can hear her speak on S.A.B.C N.e.w.s - (I'm inserting periods/fullstops to avoid TH-cam deleting this comment, so just ignore them).
Pandor welcomes ICJ order.... that's the title. She starts speaking at about the 2 and a half minute mark. It's really worth listening to it all. She speaks for 10 minutes and I wanted to recommend it to your viewers.
Frank, the work you are doing is genuine and valuable. Thank you for you efforts.
Thanks to you all. I am emotional too Frank . I don't know how to feel after this. We need to increase the pressure on our complicit governments 🙏🇵🇸🇿🇦❤💚🖤🤍
Thank-you Frank, great discussion as always.
Professor William Schabas, love your painting on the wall behind you.
Thank you, Frank for your Interviews. Really enlightening!
Thanks to William Shabas as well. His interpretations are invaluable.
Thank you so much for reporting about ICJ ruling.
Thank you Mr Barat and all your guests. Thank you for continuing to stand on the side of justice and truth ❤️✌️🇵🇸
I am delighted!!
The courts instructions cannot be implemented without a complete ceasefire....
This critical point seems to be missed by some of the commentators.
I think that word has, miles above us, been deemed completely banned, verboten, haram, sent to room 101. That's why some people were calling for a "pause" before and still can't say that word. It's amazing how much power clearly exists in dark dealings we have no idea about. That has been made clear quite a lot recently with regard to choice of words. Pay attention to word choice by politicians and mass media you'll be amazed.
Anyway, so they are asking for a ceasefire without using that totally-forbidden word.
The court/UN are playing the world. They did not day Israel committed genocide, they used words such as risk of genocide, to prevent genocide, etc. How can Israel prevent something it already did in the past 115 days? UN needs to go.
+26000 murders, and in every day to the reconsideration many more innocent lives will be lost. Is this justice?!
It's politics and law, justice is just a name for that. You don't expect a normal court to be just all the time, and certainly not to be quick, especially if the complainant is a homeless immigrant and the accused is the favourite child of the governor. It is amazing it has gotten to this point to be honest, it's a sign that things are turning. Even the end of occupation is actually visible on the hazy horizon, not anymore an impossible dream.
This ruling by the ICJ was a milestone for international jurisdiction. Thanks South Africa for your bravery 🙏🏽🇿🇦❤
Great show as always Frank
Very illuminating; thank you, Frank!
Thank you, South Africa! Free Palestine 🇵🇸
Thank you so much for this video. It was very beneficial. Keep up the Great Work! Much appreciated!
It's so encouraging to see both Frank and Diana smile here in contrast with previous interviews when the horror of the genocide made their eyes glisten. As a viewer, I saw their anguish on screen as a reflection of my own despair in the face of Israel's unfathomable brutality in Gaza. At that time, prior to South Africa's submission to the ICJ, there seemed to be no light at the end of the tunnel. Throughout the past weeks, when listening to each of Frank's interviews (and in particular those conducted with his Palestinian guests -- Diana, Noura, and Susan), I yearned for hope when hopelessness seemed overwhelming. But today, I can see the glinting light beyond. With the legal knowledge and enormous political acumen displayed in this video, hope has been resuscitated. Thank you, Frank, for bearing witness and for your ceaseless efforts to bring crucial analyses to the world during this extraordinary moment in history.
Moving post
Thank you for articulation
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FINALLY!!! Thank you South Africa! ❤️
The real tragedy is that the court has allowed a one month timeline. Is that not the same as impunity?
Everyone including their dog knows Israel will not stop! The ICJ has given them a one month license to continue.
I don't think so.
This is only the first part of the primary ruling.
This court session is the beginning of the apartheid colony losing its impunity. Let's not forget that the number of involved judges that decided that it's a genocide, is overwhelming.
This important court session that many people don't appreciate will change many many things in the road to freedom.
1. It strengthens the role of Palestinian freedom fighters.
2. It strengthens Ansar Allah role in Yemen to prevent the genocide from continuing.
3. The répétition of the imperial countries that the apartheid colony has the right to defend itself, will be far less affective and less repetetive. There will be a good reason to pretend respecting the ICJ decision to call this a genocide.
4. Neither Gazans, nor supporters against the gen*cides will be dismissed as before.
5. This case isn't over yet.
It could easily evoked by SA at any time.
The 77 years evil occupation will not end overnight. Let's not forget that the struggle towards freedom usually know more downs than ups, untill liberty is gained, eventually.
6. Let's not forget that legal courts jargon is different than media and our everyday language.
I listened to the primary judge more than once.
She is giving the occupation the chance to provide essential aid for Gazans. If this doesn't change within a month, things will drastically change within the same court.
Your clueless, do think Israel will stop the killing if the Court orders to stop today NO They will continue killing the month given is space genocide case
The court/UN are playing the world. They did not day Israel committed genocide, they used words such as risk of genocide, to prevent genocide, etc. How can Israel prevent something it already did in the past 115 days? UN needs to go.
Only so much they could’ve done with provisional measures.
This affirms there’s a case to be answered & opens the door to further action from other quarters, including individual criminal prosecutions.
It might as well be a ceasefire order, as the only way to comply with these orders is to stop besieging & killing civilians. Ignoring this clear legal communication makes denial of criminal intent harder to defend for those directly culpable, and indirectly backing them.
@@Cranky_Crone That is true. That is unfortunate that they did not call for a ceasefire (they could). We know that Israel will continue their genocide as they know no boundaries.
Israel is lost already but they don't know it yet (their gov knows though). The court will just make it official.
There was no intention all over media from hitler yet the nazis were indicted with crimes that were not legally crimes at the time (law passed a couple of years later). They got indicted just based on their actions. The gaza genocide and holocaust, not only can be indicted based on the actions Israel took (similar to germany's case) but also it has intentions from all levels of gov in English and Hebrew in different formats (video, text, kids song, news, tshirt graphics, painting, etc, etc).
The Israelis think the WWII genocide was the only genocide or the greatest genocide. The world doesn't see it that way. That one was just another genocides and the one in Gaza is the newest one. They think the world MUST differentiate between the 2 genocides because? If anything, the genocide on Gaza is way worse than what Germany did. When Germany was committing genocide, there was no law to make it a crime. The law passed and It became a crime a couple of years AFTER WWII and yet, Germany was indicted!
Israel is committing the genocide knowing full well it is a crime so if anything, I say this one's accountability is 100 times higher than the one Germany did! and should be punished to the highest degree possible.
This is aside from humanity and morality that is lacking in all genocides regardless of the law at the time.
I was very disappointed not to have a ceasefire until Mr Schabas explained things from his perspective. Noura agrees which is comforting. True 15 to 2 was important. Israel has already said they’re not going to change a thing. No surprise there.
They cannot rule cease-fire as per hamas is not a state, the icj has no duristiction over hamas
This ruling is more a political solution as per the us and uk stop the support of Israel
Yet to listen but already relieved…… Justice seems to have prevailed ❕🙏🇵🇸🙏
As a South African who lived in Palestine, l felt really relaxed and emotional hearing the decision of the ICJ. We must continue speaking out and pressurising our governments to take actions to stop this genocide. Thanks for these insightful reflections 🇿🇦🇵🇸❤️
Liar
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The court left it up to the warring parties to consider agreeing on a ceasefire.
Amazing talk. It gives a little bit of hope?
They didn't rule for a ceasefire. That is not a good thing for the poor Gazan being slaughtered on the ground. But I still feel grateful to South Africa who tried to bring back the rule of law.
I don't know how you get these guests, but excellent 👍
Saudi Arabia's recent war in Yemen ( with training & weapons from the U.S. ) killed approximately 344,00 Yemenis' 200,000 of whom starved to death!!!
Yemen & Gaza have proven that the war strategy of starvation must be reformed in international; rules of engagement in warfare legislation to ensure that it is a war crime!!
We must email or write to our government representatives in an attempt to ensure this, thank you.
Brilliant analysis🎉Keep it up bro❤
ICJ has ordered against Israel before (though not in a binding case like this) and the UN has passed resolutions against Israel countless times. So don't think this alone will change much. But it is a major strike against Israel in civic power and therefore a sure boost to all those who are against Israel's crimes.
Consideration for the surrounding conflict from several unfriendly armed forces strained the courts decision to demand a ceasefire.
I’m the 777th like maybe that’s a good sign! Thank you for all the support and coverage we really appreciate it ❤
One month , is NOT it much too long in the case of Gaza?
Too long for what? Stop pretending that Israel will be stopped only by a court order.
The Court highlighted the comments of persons belonging to the United Nations agencies
If they didn't, it's them dismissing their own colleagues and body as part of the same organisation
Excellent show. !!!
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Israel lost, today marks a turning point, my three predictions for what's coming in the next one year:
1. double digit number of Global South states will cut diplomatic ties with Israel
2. Israel will be banned / expelled from multiple important international sports organizations
3. Israel will be banned from multiple prominent cultural forums, such as the misery carneval called eurovision song contest
Some may think the isolation of Israel is not a big deal, but I think it very much is, that will be huge blow to the tel aviv government.
Others predictions? Comment below
Sanctions
Boycotts
On Israël and US
Till apartheid ends
Thank you so much for covering this critical matter. The US is essentially mute.
When Bush jr was in office, I was so ashamed to be an American when we were committing atrocities in Iraq. That shame pales in comparison to the shame and horror I feel today. I can only pray that israel will grow a heart even though I know that my prayers will never become reality.
Moving post
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Feelings shared
Paris
@@constantquestioning4010 Thank you. The "people" of the world are horrified. The governments fear israel! THEY are shameful.
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Wow!!!! there might be a God after all!
exactly!
Израиль создала огромную проблему нашему общему делу.
Израиль работает создать Великий Израиль. Используя всех как хотят и как смогуть.
Поэтому Израиль должен бить наказан.
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Not just the Californian case but the London case too where the icjp filed similar case against the uk government in accordance with domestic genocide law !
How powerful are the orders ❓
People in Gaza are dying right now. One day is too long for them. Imagine a one month.
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Would love to know your thoughts about the Ugandan judge who voted against all 6 rulings whereas the Israeli judge only voted against 4
Any country (usa uk eu ) providing aid in terms of weapons or anything else should cease doing so immediately. Why even wait for this decision. Just stop !
Would really appreciate having names of your guests posted when interview begins. Who are these people Frank??
We want permanent cease fire now and justice for our Palestinians 🇵🇸
I doubt she knows the time of arguments , 1030am eastern would have been 7:30 am pt, I doubt courts start at 7:30
It’s not that people simply wanted more. It’s that they’re dying!! Many of them have family members & friends who are being slaughtered! To say that they’re reacting like children on Christmas morning is quite cold imo.
I kinda think it’d be ok if Israel wanted to keep fighting Hamas with boots on the ground. (From all I’ve seen, Hamas are more than able to hold their own in a fair fight.)
Seems the issue for the ICJ isn’t so much the armed conflict as the siege, bombing, starvation, and forced displacement of a predominantly underaged, unarmed civilian population..
Rothchilds will not like what's happening , as their spiders Web is starting to be destroyed .
Icj have no power
Yes, they do!! this will go some way toward the U.S. & the U.K. coming to their senses!!
You must understand the difference between to stop the Genocide and to prevent the genocide and dont speak the nonsense. There is no genocide in Gaza.
The naiveté in these analyses did NOT age well, did it? #EndTheUSEmpire
Sideways guest is annoying
Israel never had world support. Genocide doesn't allow Gaza's population to double over the last few decades.
This was because many refugees from the surrounding regions were moved into Gaza!
And lots of people moved into Israel to find work. The descendants of these people now call themselves refugees. As long as there are countries Israel will defend itself like any other country would. @@michellenorris8471
What happens if Israel cease fire but the Palestinians continue the onslaught!????
You mean hamas? Not the Palestinians. Hamas already agreed to abide by any ceasefire, and agreed to release all hostages in return for release of Palestinian prisoners and a full withdrawal and ceasefire. Its Israel that will not agree to the terms. Well, now the ICJ has told them to stop.
It is the obligation of the occupiers to to abide by the laws and cease fire and end occupation period.
They have played the victim card for too long. Anybody who does not hold the terrorist state accountable and condemns the atrocities they have committed needs to be prosecuted in international courts
Great show as always Frank