I know everyone is saying that this track is better than the raid one, but honestly i don't think thats a problem, lemme explain, in this track (and also the "boss fight") it doesn't feel like you are really fighting the witness, rather you are desperately surviving a literal death match against something that can easily wipe you from existence, and this track really conveys that. The raid song, it illustrates how you and the witness are now on equal footing and now you can actually damage it, however, killing it it's still out of the question, and your only objective it's to stop it from creating the final shape, there's always a presence of pressure, tension, and when our theme appears for just a few seconds, it's immediately replaced by the witness theme. The excision theme, however, it's another story, this time you don't have to worry about a final shape, now you actually kill that bastard and you are not holding back anymore I swear, this type of storytelling in just 3 themes is amazing and kudos for Michael Salvatori for creating such a goated soundtrack
You're right. I think I had a pretty L take before. I've given the Raid and Excision mixes more chances than this one and I can now say that those, while still in my opinion aren't better, they're top tier tracks that remain in my top three. I talked with Michael himself via E-mail, and apparently literally all of TFS OST was up and ready to go before the layoffs. I'm sorry for the absolute garbage take I had before, I think what's amazing about these songs is that they aren't really mean tot be looked at solo, they ARE the story of how we kill the Witness, and I missed that.
@@Mailman679 I have no idea if this response is actually for real or a joke, but I went to the comment section to find that take and, yeah it wasn't the best tbh, also I wanted to point out that the raid track you mentioned in that comment isn't actually the raid song, that's like the intro when you first enter the arena after the parkour section and the actual track is unmade
Btw, don't attribute all of the credit to Salvatori. Most of the tracks you mentioned don't have Salvatori as the main credit. He is credited for the track that will play during DPS in excision, the others were Kirk Dirksen (This track), Josh Mosser (Final raid encounter), and Rotem Moav (The track that plays in the beginning of Excision). Bungie has an amazing *team* of composers, I hate to see them dismissed when we talk about Destiny's phenomenal OST.
This is it,.10 years of destiny all to this moment, it may not die.here, but still, actually facing this mf we hsve neen fighting for 10 years of our lifes is so sick
I finally noticed that the witness wasn’t actually there during this fight. He rooted himself to the traveler, this was just an avatar peering through his mirror power stuff. We literally uproot him during the raid and he is kinda drifting around like a weed (without legs) during excision if you look
@@BrazarBI don't think it appeared in person until the Cutscene. I think it was projecting itself because at that moment it's still focusing on keeping The Traveler under control. But once it got hurt it said "Fuck this" That's why as soon as we break that 3rd statue it screams and we're immediately crippled.
As someone else noted, the raid theme isn't meant to "hot hard" or be heroic, it is meant to be opressing, like giving you not a single moment of confidence and always stressing you. And the raid theme captures that perfectly imo
@antares8826 after hearing that it does make it a little better for me. It has definitely grown on me but I do feel it could have been a little more intense as the Witness is the closest it's ever been to enacting the final shape in that fight and I feel it could have definitely kept the oppressing tone while also carrying the intensity that you are mear minutes away from the end of the universe. It is still an intense track but I wish it carried the tone of shear panic with the rising strings and blaring horns this one does.
@@Deltadog55 You mean like Vault phase 3? Seems kind of weird that Bungie went hard for opening a door, but opted for tense music during the end of the universe.
@@Deltadog55 I wished it would be a little more intense too, especially during the final stand, but it fits the theme. Additionally, it fits the witness quite well since it is very reserved (?) compared to Nezarec and Rhulk, which their tracks and the comparison between the three reflects quite well
@@antares8826 I feel it's reserved demeanor is more a facade for its true nature. As seen at the end of Iconoclasm and Lightfall it's actually on par with Nezarec in terms of pure rage. And whilst this theme encapsulates that the raid one doesn't. But that might be because in the raid it actually is more reserved because it is confident it will succeed. With DPS being the one part where they actually start to panic. I like the inclusion of Unveiled in the background of the theme but It could do with some more vocals or strings to keep up the tension that The Witness may actually succeed.
Does anyone else think The Witnesses story battle kinda falls flat when compared to Calus’s and Savathûn’s? At least as far as gameplay goes? Like I know REALLY harming them was reserved for the missions that came after, and I know The Witness was toying without us out of prideful amusement, but they could have at least given them a few more different attacks here and there, maybe throw around some light and darkness debuffs as we progressed (Like have it so a new debuff is applied to us each time a new subjugator’s summoned, that’s cleared after we kill them, like if a strand one spawns, we’re all severed until it’s defeated, or if a stasis one is out, we get slowed each time we take a hit, or The Witness entwines his attacks with Light debuffs assuming we survive getting hit by him).
I prefer this far more than Calus's fight. As not only is the setting oppressing but it actually has mechanics (even if they are minimal) unlike calus who is just a shoot him until he dies scenario with a couple tormentors. Which could have worked if his health pool wasn't so shallow and the setting not as boring. I'd rather something more like his throne room seen in the cutscenes despite that not making sense in a narrative point of view its just the Veil containment room leaves no place for interesting mechanics because its just a circle and a few platforms with little cover. That and all of Calus's attacks are recycled from other bosses and enemies. With his only interesting attacks being recycled from Vow of the Disciple. I'd consider the Witness fight very similar to savathuns and at the very least on par. But definitely better than Calus.
I think the fights with the Witness were really awesome but I do wish we saw Stasis attacks from it (especially since Stasis is kinda like the embodiment of the Witness goal) or other Darkness powers
Calus's fight was a huge huge dissapointment for me, but compared to Savathuns i probably do prefer her campaign boss more. Fighting the witness 3 different times makes up for it tho
Okay; first, I don’t agree so I’ll prepare you for that. Why would the witness throw out other attacks when he hates the light and what it stands for. He it utilizing it to do the opposite of what it does. Also there are two other missions ( one raid) which are supposed to be where we win
Intro? If you're referring to what the soundtrack version starts with, that's a stripped down version of the high action's intro which I do have. -Breshi
@DanYami 12:20? Or did you mean the tension? This video contains everything written for this cue so whatever you're looking for is in here somewhere. -Breshi
@@destiny_music_archiveYes, that part is 100% what OP means. In in-game mix that part was used as "intro" to the fight. But overall the entire fight music was heavily scripted with mostly tension part playing with some action overlays.
@xenosion1131 I'm aware but it's not the exact same. The beginning has the "womping" sound(idk how to describe it lol) but yeah I want to find the track with that intro portion
Hey @destiny_music_archive if it's not too much to ask could we get the music that plays during the cutseen ( that happens after this fight) when the witness says we're not worthy of salvation and goes raid boss mode .
Somehow this track understands the Witness better than both the Raid track (First Knife) and the Excision track (Stronger, Together). The only part of TFS I'm so disappointed in is the soundtracks for the Witness. Imo, those tracks don't top The First Disciple, and they don't top Oneriophobia. Hell, it doesn't even top Tyrant Overthrown. I was so excited to see what Salvatori would do with something as vague but as threatening as the Witness. When I heard he was being replaced, my fears rose, and I knew the Witness' tracks would suffer because of it. Unfortunately, I was correct. This is the only one that hits hard for me, and gives me at least a somewhat feeling of fighting a TRUE god in the Destiny universe.
Make your own fate goes ungodly hard, it is definitely better than Ritual Site. But I do agree ritual site is one of the better tracks. Honestly, the campaign had some banger tracks. Paracausal Mutilation is one of my favorite tracks in a while, and perservate is also super good. It's a little bittersweet, usually the raid has the best soundtracks but the only raid ost I actually enjoy is herald.
Btw salvatori did compose stuff in the final shape. He got fired after the ost was already over. Also, the witness themes were made by the same guy that made the banger that was rhulk. And the ost of nezarec
I know everyone is saying that this track is better than the raid one, but honestly i don't think thats a problem, lemme explain, in this track (and also the "boss fight") it doesn't feel like you are really fighting the witness, rather you are desperately surviving a literal death match against something that can easily wipe you from existence, and this track really conveys that.
The raid song, it illustrates how you and the witness are now on equal footing and now you can actually damage it, however, killing it it's still out of the question, and your only objective it's to stop it from creating the final shape, there's always a presence of pressure, tension, and when our theme appears for just a few seconds, it's immediately replaced by the witness theme.
The excision theme, however, it's another story, this time you don't have to worry about a final shape, now you actually kill that bastard and you are not holding back anymore
I swear, this type of storytelling in just 3 themes is amazing and kudos for Michael Salvatori for creating such a goated soundtrack
You're right. I think I had a pretty L take before.
I've given the Raid and Excision mixes more chances than this one and I can now say that those, while still in my opinion aren't better, they're top tier tracks that remain in my top three.
I talked with Michael himself via E-mail, and apparently literally all of TFS OST was up and ready to go before the layoffs.
I'm sorry for the absolute garbage take I had before, I think what's amazing about these songs is that they aren't really mean tot be looked at solo, they ARE the story of how we kill the Witness, and I missed that.
@@Mailman679 I have no idea if this response is actually for real or a joke, but I went to the comment section to find that take and, yeah it wasn't the best tbh, also I wanted to point out that the raid track you mentioned in that comment isn't actually the raid song, that's like the intro when you first enter the arena after the parkour section and the actual track is unmade
Btw, don't attribute all of the credit to Salvatori. Most of the tracks you mentioned don't have Salvatori as the main credit. He is credited for the track that will play during DPS in excision, the others were Kirk Dirksen (This track), Josh Mosser (Final raid encounter), and Rotem Moav (The track that plays in the beginning of Excision).
Bungie has an amazing *team* of composers, I hate to see them dismissed when we talk about Destiny's phenomenal OST.
Like seeing him in person, to actually fight him...i got shivers
*It.
@@GhostRydr1172them**
Screenshot for the High Action goes hard.
"So what's your opinion on vaporeon?"
He almost looks like he’s making a heart with his hands
@@twelved4983 Good ending, he understood his mistake and ready to work on himself
Special tri-beam. Guardian won't know what hit im'.
YOOOOO FINALLY
Been waiting for an extended cut of this ost for 2 weeks now
Sorry for the wait. Have a lot on my plate at the moment.
But I didn't forget. :)
-Breshi
@destiny_music_archive dude your good honestly the fact you can give us such amazing music videos is worth the wait ❤❤❤
Now _this_ felt like final fight material. The ambiance, the location, the soundtrack, the buildup. It was *_crazy._* B)
This is it,.10 years of destiny all to this moment, it may not die.here, but still, actually facing this mf we hsve neen fighting for 10 years of our lifes is so sick
This might be the best final boss music in any FPS
we may not have come close to defeating the witness here BUT we found a way to defeat it, we made a god bleed
I finally noticed that the witness wasn’t actually there during this fight. He rooted himself to the traveler, this was just an avatar peering through his mirror power stuff. We literally uproot him during the raid and he is kinda drifting around like a weed (without legs) during excision if you look
I’m pretty sure the monoliths literally IS his body just extended into the traveler
It was there, plus at the end of this fights cutscene it transformed to its raid form, it only became part of the Monolith after this fight
my understanding was that it only actually came there during the end cutscene after the campaign boss
@@BrazarBI don't think it appeared in person until the Cutscene.
I think it was projecting itself because at that moment it's still focusing on keeping The Traveler under control.
But once it got hurt it said "Fuck this"
That's why as soon as we break that 3rd statue it screams and we're immediately crippled.
God I love this track I'm so happy that you posted this
After listening to this again and this around 9:56 the shattered glass shifting just makes it even better.
THANK YOUUUU
IVE BEEN LOOKING FOR THIS
Was waiting for this banger!
this ost really made me feel like its the end of the world
Ngl i prefer this over the raid version
Somehow the campaign theme hits harder than the raid theme
As someone else noted, the raid theme isn't meant to "hot hard" or be heroic, it is meant to be opressing, like giving you not a single moment of confidence and always stressing you. And the raid theme captures that perfectly imo
@antares8826 after hearing that it does make it a little better for me. It has definitely grown on me but I do feel it could have been a little more intense as the Witness is the closest it's ever been to enacting the final shape in that fight and I feel it could have definitely kept the oppressing tone while also carrying the intensity that you are mear minutes away from the end of the universe. It is still an intense track but I wish it carried the tone of shear panic with the rising strings and blaring horns this one does.
@@Deltadog55 You mean like Vault phase 3? Seems kind of weird that Bungie went hard for opening a door, but opted for tense music during the end of the universe.
@@Deltadog55 I wished it would be a little more intense too, especially during the final stand, but it fits the theme. Additionally, it fits the witness quite well since it is very reserved (?) compared to Nezarec and Rhulk, which their tracks and the comparison between the three reflects quite well
@@antares8826 I feel it's reserved demeanor is more a facade for its true nature. As seen at the end of Iconoclasm and Lightfall it's actually on par with Nezarec in terms of pure rage. And whilst this theme encapsulates that the raid one doesn't. But that might be because in the raid it actually is more reserved because it is confident it will succeed. With DPS being the one part where they actually start to panic. I like the inclusion of Unveiled in the background of the theme but It could do with some more vocals or strings to keep up the tension that The Witness may actually succeed.
Inner light :)
I heard it too bro, and I broke down afterward. In terms of soundtracks, it is my all time favorite tune.😂❤❤
I'm still going to pray you'll upload the 3rd encounter music from Salvation's Edge 🙏
It’s up on his channel, it’s called Verity
@@LeQuartermaster …that’s 4th encounter
@@Tea1993 OHP I’m dumb, you said 3rd
Yo would you mind doing this for harvest? 😶🙏🏿
Does anyone else think The Witnesses story battle kinda falls flat when compared to Calus’s and Savathûn’s? At least as far as gameplay goes?
Like I know REALLY harming them was reserved for the missions that came after, and I know The Witness was toying without us out of prideful amusement, but they could have at least given them a few more different attacks here and there, maybe throw around some light and darkness debuffs as we progressed (Like have it so a new debuff is applied to us each time a new subjugator’s summoned, that’s cleared after we kill them, like if a strand one spawns, we’re all severed until it’s defeated, or if a stasis one is out, we get slowed each time we take a hit, or The Witness entwines his attacks with Light debuffs assuming we survive getting hit by him).
the witness official story battle was in excision
I prefer this far more than Calus's fight. As not only is the setting oppressing but it actually has mechanics (even if they are minimal) unlike calus who is just a shoot him until he dies scenario with a couple tormentors. Which could have worked if his health pool wasn't so shallow and the setting not as boring. I'd rather something more like his throne room seen in the cutscenes despite that not making sense in a narrative point of view its just the Veil containment room leaves no place for interesting mechanics because its just a circle and a few platforms with little cover. That and all of Calus's attacks are recycled from other bosses and enemies. With his only interesting attacks being recycled from Vow of the Disciple. I'd consider the Witness fight very similar to savathuns and at the very least on par. But definitely better than Calus.
I think the fights with the Witness were really awesome but I do wish we saw Stasis attacks from it (especially since Stasis is kinda like the embodiment of the Witness goal) or other Darkness powers
Calus's fight was a huge huge dissapointment for me, but compared to Savathuns i probably do prefer her campaign boss more. Fighting the witness 3 different times makes up for it tho
Okay; first, I don’t agree so I’ll prepare you for that. Why would the witness throw out other attacks when he hates the light and what it stands for. He it utilizing it to do the opposite of what it does. Also there are two other missions ( one raid) which are supposed to be where we win
still doesn't have the intro :(
Intro? If you're referring to what the soundtrack version starts with, that's a stripped down version of the high action's intro which I do have.
-Breshi
nah the soundtrack version doesn't have the intro
when you start the fight you get this menacing intro stinger that I've yet to hear in any upload
@DanYami
12:20? Or did you mean the tension? This video contains everything written for this cue so whatever you're looking for is in here somewhere.
-Breshi
@@destiny_music_archiveYes, that part is 100% what OP means. In in-game mix that part was used as "intro" to the fight. But overall the entire fight music was heavily scripted with mostly tension part playing with some action overlays.
Does anyone know the song name when you use the sword on the witness dissenters?
Cusp of Finality
-Breshi
@destiny_music_archive sorry I meant the version with 12 man witness fight m!
@@RagnaRebellion That also uses cusp of finality
@xenosion1131 I'm aware but it's not the exact same. The beginning has the "womping" sound(idk how to describe it lol) but yeah I want to find the track with that intro portion
@RagnaRebellion Cusp of Finality :)
Skip to about 2 minutes in. You're looking for the Guardian part I assume. It's in there towards the end.
-Breshi
Will we get a Music System for the Tangled Shore/Tree of Probabilities/Paracausal Mutilation leitmotif?
Music system uploads would only contain the music intensities made for a single music system. Not combining different music systems together.
-Breshi
Hey @destiny_music_archive if it's not too much to ask could we get the music that plays during the cutseen ( that happens after this fight) when the witness says we're not worthy of salvation and goes raid boss mode .
There should have been a more intense version of this for the Raid fight.
Unmade just isn't it for a Raid encounter against God.
this should have been the raid track
Somehow this track understands the Witness better than both the Raid track (First Knife) and the Excision track (Stronger, Together).
The only part of TFS I'm so disappointed in is the soundtracks for the Witness. Imo, those tracks don't top The First Disciple, and they don't top Oneriophobia. Hell, it doesn't even top Tyrant Overthrown.
I was so excited to see what Salvatori would do with something as vague but as threatening as the Witness. When I heard he was being replaced, my fears rose, and I knew the Witness' tracks would suffer because of it.
Unfortunately, I was correct.
This is the only one that hits hard for me, and gives me at least a somewhat feeling of fighting a TRUE god in the Destiny universe.
Make your own fate goes ungodly hard, it is definitely better than Ritual Site. But I do agree ritual site is one of the better tracks. Honestly, the campaign had some banger tracks. Paracausal Mutilation is one of my favorite tracks in a while, and perservate is also super good.
It's a little bittersweet, usually the raid has the best soundtracks but the only raid ost I actually enjoy is herald.
First knife goes harder than this. But only the intro part. The boss fight ost sucks
Btw salvatori did compose stuff in the final shape. He got fired after the ost was already over.
Also, the witness themes were made by the same guy that made the banger that was rhulk. And the ost of nezarec