I haven't played paintball since the 90's and I'm just now starting to get back into following the hobby. Man I can remember when Tippman was the gun everyone on the field wanted. For me it was always Spyder.
Same exact color 170r I got definitely a solid gun I’d recommend a barely used used one over a new one since they have been out for so long but definitely solid gun if you just want a new one
@@denverpurgepaintball7147 honestly I’d take the Etha 3 just about everything he mentioned. Etha 3/3m, LV2, and the TM40 are the best markers on the market as of right now in my opinion.
It is kinda weird though not to have any PE marker shown on the high tier list but honestly and I’m sure they would deny it but it’s probably because the high end PE markers already sell well but idk maybe he was just picking what he wanted and they didn’t exclude them on purpose from the high tier
I mean you freaking need to open the handle to Programm that thing... The czr doesn't even make the top ten of dye tournament markers if you set objektive standards...
@@ariesaggressiv7569 Can you get any more lazy? It’s easy as hell to setup the Etha3 electric. If you can’t figure out how to play without a display screen…doesn’t say much for you. Just being honest. An LCD is just a way to charge more then you need to. CZR and mini GS’s shouldn’t even be in the conversation of tournament guns.
@@stop736 the main reason for a lcd display is that you can setup your gun faster. It's not really necessary, but to me it's a big plus. You can control your setup and change it on the fly without opening some screws. You say lazy? I say there is a reason for that. Every major modern tournament gun over 800 bucks has them.
Wow I have lived almost all your videos no PE at the high end markers. Please let us know at the beginning of the video that tour just trying to sell what you have next time.
RIGHT?! I like Tony and Mark, but not putting AT LEAST the Etha 2 on the high low/low mid end isn't good. The Etha will outshoot and out perform a CZR and an Axe 2.0 any day of the week.
Is there a difference in quality between a FULLY upgraded Ion and a Shocker? by fully upgraded Ion I mean everything: Black heart board, upgraded adjustable trigger, upgraded QEV, upgraded regulator, upgraded ASA, upgraded ball detent, upgraded eye, upgraded spring, upgraded bolt, upgraded feedneck, bolt out back body, freak barrel kit, etc. Because I have this said Ion but haven't had a chance to use a true, "High end" gun before.
If you want to make such a list, you would have only markers with an avarege price of over 900 dollars on there. The top tier markers for tournament right now are luxe tm 40, dye m3 and cs2. Period. Not necessarily in that order. Any marker over 500 $ might see play, but if you say top, you need the cream of the crop.
@@t3chn070 Sorry, I clearly disagree. if you want to name the top tournament markers you need to set an objektive standard. In paintball the main factors for a tournament marker would be accuracy, consistency, efficiency. Secondary factors could be overall performance, ball breaks, compability and how easy the maintenance is. A dye CZR is due to its bad performance, it's lackluster consistency and it's overall handling a really poor choice if you want to play tournaments by objektive standards. It's simply not a good choice if you want to play competitive. The bolt can't really handle brittle shells, so high end tournament paint can't really be shot. If anything breaks it takes to long to change the o-rings, heck, even if you have everything ready you would need about a minute to change the batteries. I played every single dye/proto marker since the PMR came out. The reflex was consistent. DM 10 to 15 are tournament ready. Dsr is hell of a midrange gun. M2 and M3 are everything you possibly could look for. But the rize models are just a pain in the ass.
@@t3chn070 or to put it simply: if you want to put random BS markers on your tier list, at least have the decency to put the disclaimer on that it's just a personal list without objective standards.
Geo 4, will shoot with any of the super high end. And ive got 3 of them, tm 40, geo 4, and lv 2...lv2 is too new, but in 6 months it will be a contender..its a sweet mo fo, tm 40, geo 4, geo 4 more maintance..but shoots just as good as luxe..cs2, ...ive never shot 1 ..so i cant comment.
@@williamduckworth305 I am not saying the guys don't know their stuff, but this time they really just made a marketing video. I am not saying you can't use your old guns in tournaments. But the high end top tier guns are the newesest high end guns of the different brands. Period. There is a reason for that.
Dye czr sucks badly. It leaks air every 1500 to 2000 rounds, in a tournament you don't have the time to properly take care of the bolt as much as this thing needs. It's a nice beginners gun, but nothing more
I haven't played paintball since the 90's and I'm just now starting to get back into following the hobby. Man I can remember when Tippman was the gun everyone on the field wanted. For me it was always Spyder.
I still play with autocockers and automags , have new stuff but cant beat the accuracy of the oldies
@@417CAR Autocockers with nitrious tanks was insane lol
Same exact color 170r I got definitely a solid gun I’d recommend a barely used used one over a new one since they have been out for so long but definitely solid gun if you just want a new one
Dye DM14, I love that thing it’s absolutely amazing
How are you not putting the etha 3 on there on off asa. Clamping feedneck. Easy too less bolt removal.
How is the cs2 pro not on this list
Bc it’s not sold anymore.
i was about to say that lol
no lv2?
@@denverpurgepaintball7147 honestly I’d take the Etha 3 just about everything he mentioned. Etha 3/3m, LV2, and the TM40 are the best markers on the market as of right now in my opinion.
It is kinda weird though not to have any PE marker shown on the high tier list but honestly and I’m sure they would deny it but it’s probably because the high end PE markers already sell well but idk maybe he was just picking what he wanted and they didn’t exclude them on purpose from the high tier
The Dye CZR and Mini GS are on there but the ETHA 2 or 3 aren’t on there. The DYE CZR is garbage
Facts CZR ain’t it
I mean you freaking need to open the handle to Programm that thing...
The czr doesn't even make the top ten of dye tournament markers if you set objektive standards...
@@ariesaggressiv7569 that’s the reason it’s the cheapest good shooting electronic marker
@@ariesaggressiv7569 Can you get any more lazy? It’s easy as hell to setup the Etha3 electric. If you can’t figure out how to play without a display screen…doesn’t say much for you. Just being honest. An LCD is just a way to charge more then you need to. CZR and mini GS’s shouldn’t even be in the conversation of tournament guns.
@@stop736 the main reason for a lcd display is that you can setup your gun faster. It's not really necessary, but to me it's a big plus. You can control your setup and change it on the fly without opening some screws.
You say lazy? I say there is a reason for that. Every major modern tournament gun over 800 bucks has them.
Is the planet eclipse 180r tournament ready gun?
Dsr+ is another great mid range/low high end
As long as you don’t get one with the leak problem
Wow I have lived almost all your videos no PE at the high end markers. Please let us know at the beginning of the video that tour just trying to sell what you have next time.
RIGHT?! I like Tony and Mark, but not putting AT LEAST the Etha 2 on the high low/low mid end isn't good. The Etha will outshoot and out perform a CZR and an Axe 2.0 any day of the week.
missin out on an etha and geo 4 :/
No CS2 Pro?
Is there a difference in quality between a FULLY upgraded Ion and a Shocker? by fully upgraded Ion I mean everything: Black heart board, upgraded adjustable trigger, upgraded QEV, upgraded regulator, upgraded ASA, upgraded ball detent, upgraded eye, upgraded spring, upgraded bolt, upgraded feedneck, bolt out back body, freak barrel kit, etc. Because I have this said Ion but haven't had a chance to use a true, "High end" gun before.
If you want to make such a list, you would have only markers with an avarege price of over 900 dollars on there.
The top tier markers for tournament right now are luxe tm 40, dye m3 and cs2.
Period. Not necessarily in that order.
Any marker over 500 $ might see play, but if you say top, you need the cream of the crop.
Oh really? You know what they mean when they say top? Their list, their rules for what applies. Period.
@@t3chn070
Sorry, I clearly disagree.
if you want to name the top tournament markers you need to set an objektive standard.
In paintball the main factors for a tournament marker would be accuracy, consistency, efficiency.
Secondary factors could be overall performance, ball breaks, compability and how easy the maintenance is.
A dye CZR is due to its bad performance, it's lackluster consistency and it's overall handling a really poor choice if you want to play tournaments by objektive standards. It's simply not a good choice if you want to play competitive. The bolt can't really handle brittle shells, so high end tournament paint can't really be shot.
If anything breaks it takes to long to change the o-rings, heck, even if you have everything ready you would need about a minute to change the batteries.
I played every single dye/proto marker since the PMR came out.
The reflex was consistent.
DM 10 to 15 are tournament ready. Dsr is hell of a midrange gun. M2 and M3 are everything you possibly could look for. But the rize models are just a pain in the ass.
@@t3chn070 or to put it simply: if you want to put random BS markers on your tier list, at least have the decency to put the disclaimer on that it's just a personal list without objective standards.
Geo 4, will shoot with any of the super high end. And ive got 3 of them, tm 40, geo 4, and lv 2...lv2 is too new, but in 6 months it will be a contender..its a sweet mo fo, tm 40, geo 4, geo 4 more maintance..but shoots just as good as luxe..cs2, ...ive never shot 1 ..so i cant comment.
@@williamduckworth305 I am not saying the guys don't know their stuff, but this time they really just made a marketing video.
I am not saying you can't use your old guns in tournaments. But the high end top tier guns are the newesest high end guns of the different brands. Period.
There is a reason for that.
When will you guys have the axe pro LE back in stock? Can I put a deposit down on one to be guaranteed one on next shipment?
DLX Luxe TM40 is one of the best on the market at the moment imo...I also think the Ego LV2 is also great as well as the older CS2 Pro. Great Video!
What do you think of the Geo 4 or the DSR+??
I’d say beginner mini gs etha 2 mid grade 170r high end tm40 cs3 cs2 or
Where is your store located
Too many great options right now. Hard to pick one
P.E = thors hammer
facts 👌🏿 💯
Where is the Geo 4 or LV2???
Dye czr sucks badly. It leaks air every 1500 to 2000 rounds, in a tournament you don't have the time to properly take care of the bolt as much as this thing needs. It's a nice beginners gun, but nothing more
Why didn't etha make the cut
Macdev XTS Prime is the best marker.
Is that a joke? lol
Forgot about the cs2
You should put all.the marker.
Damn no geo 4?!?!?
No lv2 ? 😅😂
NO LV 2?
Really?
czr and axe belongs in a trash can...etha 2 or 3 is way better,cs1 or 1.5 or cs2 pro, lv 1.5 or lv1.6 or lv2, dsr+, luxe x, shocker xls or amp.
first great vid
Not a single high end PE gun in this list??? uhhh yah nah. CS2, Geo4, LV2??!!! Common.
Second comment wow!!!