Drum Teacher Reacts: KEITH MOON | THE WHO | 'I Can't Explain' (Live On "Shindig") 1965
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I hope we get A Quick One.. from the Rolling Stones Rock and Roll Circus!
Yes, this!
Such a great one!
Yup that’s essential in a Moon review
Moonie described himself as "the best Keith Moon style drummer"
🤣👌
Wasn’t that when someone asked him play more like Ringo?
There's a nice video of Roger Daltrey listening to Keith's drumming on a Who track and pointing out how Keith would often play the fills behind Rogers vocals and then go back to a steady beat when he's stop singing (basically the wrong way round). He mentioned that this was the magic of his drumming, that he was literally treating it as a lead instrument. There's another interview with Pete Townsend where he says The Who consisted of 4 lead musicians who would play that often sounded like they were competing for attention. He also went on to say that he would regularly just play a simple rhythm on his guitar just to hold the beat down because no one else would!
His snare sounds like sharp shotgun blasts, his playing here is more precise than many would think.
Yeah he's nailing this
Your commentary is so fascinating, because I think you've already heard the core of what makes Moon tick. He absolutely had something in him that made him do more, in everything. According to everyone who knew him, he never practiced and did not keep a drum kit at his home. When the band took a long break from touring/recording, he even was said to forget how to play and he had to relearn it.
The important thing about Moon in 1965 was how different he sounded from everyone else at the time. Compare to Beatles, Stones, etc in 1965, most Pop music was very tame. The Who had a new and agressive sound from all the members, and Moon was the most noticable. Also, notice how differently Moon could play on all the various early songs in 1965-66. For instance, "My Generation" has an unusual shuffle-beat, and then ends with a massive drum-fill. Moon was extremely creative, and he kept developing at least into 1973-4.
I think your observations are on point. You’ll notice that the camera goes to Keith a lot. This remains true anytime they were filmed in concert throughout Keith’s time. Moon put hisself 100% into the music. He was truly fascinating to watch. It seems they moved his Kit pretty far forward early on as I’m sure they were aware of this. I always thought that he must’ve been exhausted after a show. Keith will always be “the conductor” playing his fills and to the lyrics. The WHO just never was the same without him. Funnest drummer to watch ever!
Very telling that the astute camera operator panned to Keith so much when the norm was close-ups of the singer's face of full band footage. They observed it was something *extraordinary* straight away, and had the sense to run with it.
Yes, I completely agree.
Whoever directed that program had good instincts.
Keith Moon was my hero from the off. When I first heard My Generation and his explosive playing on that - it blew me away. I mean...the snare hits on bear 4 in the bar and also 'and 4' were just extraordinary !! His best drumming was on "Won't Fooled Again". Learnt to play on the album My Generation, then came Ginger Baker, then Mitch Mitchell - my absolute idol and hero.
I remember learning this song with my first band. Our drummer wanted to be Moon so badly-he just hit everything non-stop. We were a mess, but this video brings me happily back. Great reaction.
Keith is hands down my favorite drummer. And I doubt very much he could have meshed well with anyone other than Townshend and Entwistle. Townshend and Entwistle applied just enough tension to Moon's leash to keep him tethered to a song, with just enough slack to allow him to run wild when he needed to run. A delicate balance. I cannot think of another band (especially in the mid-60s, pre-punk) where having Moon as the drummer would have been an asset. His personality and playing were overwhelming. A tremendous presence. I don't think very many bands could have contained him. But within the anarchistic framework of the early Who, Keith was absolutely amazing. Though this particular clip was before he really came into his own. I suggest the Rock and Roll Circus. Keith at his best.
I wouldn't mind hearing Keith Moon play with Jimi Hendrix or Cream (even though Mitch and Ginger were perfect for those two bands and just as legendary and original in their own right). But those are the two artists/bands I could most hear his style fitting in with from that era, as those are really the only two drummers I would compare Keith's style to (although all 3 were very different at the same time). I can't really imagine Keith playing with the Beatles, Kinks, Rolling Stones, Floyd, Zeppelin, or many other bands from his era. I've always read/heard that Moon's favorite band was the Beach Boys, and if Brian Wilson dialed him up and asked him for his services, he would have quit the Who in a heartbeat to join them. I absolutely can't imagine Moon playing with the Beach Boys, and I also can't imagine Wilson giving him the leash that Townshend and Entwistle did, as you astutely pointed out. Then again, maybe Keith would have surprised us all and did something incredible with the Beach Boys, while being able to work within Brian Wilson's constraints. I mean, Moon and Wilson were both absolutely insane, so I could almost seeing it go either way. It would either be a complete and utter disaster, or the coolest fucking thing you've ever heard.
@@robertfoshizzle I don't think Keith would have been an asset for the Beach Boys. The Beach Boys like the Beatles were a vocal-based band. Lyrics and harmonies were both band's strong suit. But I do think Keith could have done a surf album. Pipeline, Wipe-out, Surf City, Let's Go Trippin'.....and similar songs could have benefitted from the Moon treatment. Can you imagine Moon let loose on Wipe-Out?
@@bodegabonsai7069 Keith Moon was practically engineered for fast-paced surf music like "Wipe-Out." I agree, that would have been amazing to see/hear.
Andrew some have said that part of the greatness of THE WHO and their explosiveness was their competition with each other to stand out---They had a lead singer, lead guitarist, lead bassist and lead drummer often at the same time...particularly when live. Call it ego, call it magic...it was both.
Wow! Great call!
@@AndrewRooneyDrums Appreciate it!
I'm no drummer those fills were killer, what a swing
So glad you're covering Keith! One of my all time favorite bands & one of my top 3 drummers! Looking forward to more!❤❤❤
Keith was friends with Mitch Mitchell. Probably one of the few drummers at the time that could have kept up with Hendrix.
He was also friends with Bonham. and very close friends with Ringo. He gave Zak Starkey his first drum kit.
Mitch was amazing. The first Hendrix recording I heard was a live compilation of different performances and the drumming was another thing that struck me besides Hendrix.
I’d heard jazz drumming before in big bands, but it wasn’t until I heard Mitch that I realized jazz and jazz influenced drummers are my favorite type drummers.
Keith
Ginger Baker
Bill Ward
Philly Joe Jones
Tony Williams among others never cease to amaze me
Keith Moon said regarding drum solos
" They're fu..ing boring ". I think that's where his style was born from. He took drums from just blending in to keep time , to an equal instrument with guitars, bass, and keyboard.
Great insight and great reaction.
Thanks Andrew
Keith played 2 hour drum solos when playing live with the Who!
@jakethomas3205 ,
Entwistle and Townshend got together and both stopped playing during a concert to hear him solo. Moon stopped too and yelled Solos are boring. I'm sure he did some solos, there's a few on youtube. I don't think he ever did a 2 hour solo though.
@@billwhitman4125 It was a quote from Tony Williams apparently referring to the fact that Keith never stopped drumming throughout the whole of the live set. Roger referred to Keith as an avalanche of drums!
When he was that young , still mostly sober , using a hi hat and focused he was a very good for his time drummer , when the hype changed him it changed his drumming .
Moon did record with another band. He was Jeff Becks favourite drummer, so he asked Keith to play on a track called “Becks Bolero” along with John Paul Jones and Jimmy Page. They meshed perfectly. Thats where keiths quip that forming a band together would go down like a led zeppelin came from.
I saw the Who several times during the 70s. They were the best live band ever. That's it.
Take a look at the interviews with Roger Daltrey and John Entwistle about Moony. They both said he played to the vocals and John said he could identify which song it was, just from the drums and nothing else.
Keith played with Jeff Beck on a few releases, but The Who were a unique band with a unique sound. The real question is, could any other band have played with Keith Moon?
I've never seen a sick drummer like Keith Moon, he's a legend
Keith Moon was a big fan of surf music where the drums are upfront. Roger Daltrey said Keith tended to follow the vocal line.
Had Keith practiced 8 hrs a day, studied with a teacher, studied other drummers, it would have killed everything that was unique about him. He is a personality expressed through his instrument unencumbered by musical convention. And in a three piece band where the guitar is providing much of the rhythm, his reliance on fills is necessary to the point where he's a composer and not just a drummer. I always loved the way he played off the vocal or guitar, punctuating a moment. He's not at all locked in with the bass which makes the music exciting, unpredictable and on the verge of going off the rails at any moment. He gets more inventive around the Tommy era, more orchestral. And yet there was a definite decline post-Quadrophenia. As much as it may be true that his style would not have worked in another band, there's a chance that he would have elevated the music in a way that none of us can conceive of because we can't think like Keith Moon thought. BTW, I'm A Boy with closed cymbal and snare combo is Keith the composer, taking the song beyond the limits set by most drummers.
'There is something in there making him do more'
It came in tablet form and the Mods were very fond of them.
LOL
Keith was the Crown Prince of rock drums.
Bill Bruford is the King of displacement.
🤘🧙♂️🤘
And both Moonie and Bruford are among my main inspirations as a drummer.
Good pick. Early The Who. Actual live audio in addition to video and great shots of Moon playing.
Yes very early!
@@AndrewRooneyDrums Even earlier in the year The Who was formed (1964) and temporary performing as The High Numbers, live footage and audio was shot in the basement of a pub at a club called The Railway Hotel run by Pete Townshend’s roommate. The footage was meant for a film on a mod band that was never finished. Absolutely amazing to have high quality film footage and live audio of The Who this early in their career in such an intimate setting and WITH Keith Moon to boot rather than the original or acting session drummers. Footage is on TH-cam. th-cam.com/video/waxaiAjh-r0/w-d-xo.html
enjoyed your breakdown, as a lifelong Moon fan I feel you described it very well and very accurately. Looking so forward to more on Moonie.
Moon *did* work for another band, the Beachcombers, just prior to joining The Who. They were reportedly a very versatile and competent semi-pro cover band, who played a wide range of pop hits of the day, mainly focusing on The Shadows, playing weddings and such. But the other members had professional day jobs, and soon after bringing him in came to realize they had a different problem, in that it was *inevitable* he was going to be a professional *drummer,* so his days in the band were numbered.
You hit the nail - rather, drum - right on the head by saying Moon doesn't just *play* the drum part, but *is* the drum part, and mentioning Hal Blaine, another of my own drumming inspirations, in the same light. With Moon, people tend to emphasize the craziness, but overlook his sheer *musicality.* Props for giving that musical genius its due. instant sub, great work.
There`s nothing that sounds like Keith and the Ox is the best backup I can think of.
Sparks from Woodstock 69 live brilliant
I think your analysis is right on the money. I started playing drums in 1969. I never played like Keith, nor did I want to, but he is a much needed element in the era. So good on Keith for being something totally different at the time. And good on you for a fair appraisal of his effort.
My favorite drummer!!
Totally agree, he is inside the music. Keith Moon loved his band and The Who was everything to him. It's often said that they were four band leaders and in terms of delivery that was so. Pete is the ultimate because he wrote the songs but Keith loved them and the band.
I read a book about the Who years ago that pretty much confirms what you say. In it, there was an example where Pete was first presenting a song to the band. He used to do a home recording using the instruments he needed, along with vocals. In this case it was only acoustic guitar and vocal. After playing the tape for the other 3, Keith didn't speak, but just got up with tears in his eyes and hugged Pete. The song was Behind Blue Eyes.
Keith Moon at 18 years old here and showing early brilliance! Yea, Keith sounded unbelievable with Jeff Beck too.
"Anyway, Anyhow, Anywhere". From the Richmond Jazz Festival 1965. Keith at its best.
If you have not seen it yet you really need to see The Who live on Rolling Stones circus playing A Quickone while he is away live. Such a great performance and might have out shined all the other bands that day.... Cheers,
He dropped the hats and ride altogether later in the 70's. Heard Mike Portnoy talk about it when he was doing his tribute to Keith.
People who say "if he played with any other band he would sound like shit" is just downplaying how good he was.
This is just a Moon-tastic week! 🤘🏼🥁🤘🏼
And, although his type of fills are repetitive, he breaks them up and arranges them so differently & randomly throughout a song that they almost sound like different types of fills. I suppose that they are depending on how you look at it.
Lets face it the songs of that era were repetetive, you know second verse same as the first
I sure hope you'll be taking a look at Love Reign O'er Me. Perhaps not Keith Moon's most exemplary work but it's one of The Who's best songs and one of the best examples of rock music.
Thanks for sharing! WOW!! I was that age on my first gig after drumming for 6months. mind = blOWN!! As to Keith... I remember hearing that he never used a Hi hat.. According to A.I. In 1966, Moon moved to an even larger kit, but without the customary hi-hat-at the time he preferred keeping ride rhythms with ride and crash cymbals, but he later reinstated the hi-hats.
If you think Keith was over busy in that clip you should watch him in the video of the number 'Heaven and Hell' at I think it was the Isle of wight festival early seventies. The band used to like to open with this number as a warm up.
Keith and Mitch Mitchell, to me, are almost like freestyle jazz drummers in rock.
A Quick One( while He’s Away) like nothing else in Rock!
Can't wait to hear it!
If you want to listen to Moonie at his best...try the 14+ minute My Generation off of the Live at Leeds LP...totally chaotic, but when put together with Entwistles bass lines...what a ride!
Live at Leeds is IMO the best live album of all time.
Crazy they had the best drummer and best bassist of all time...
I saw an interview with Pete Townshend in which he mentioned the possibility that Moon may have been on the autism spectrum somewhere or neurodivergent in some way. He did seem to have an extrodinary hyperfocus and single-minded devotion to certain behaviors and activities, and when he was playing drums it seemed as if their was absolutely nothing else but that in his mind. He was a notorious prankster and at times didn't seem to have a lot of social awareness about what might be considered inappropriate by others. Take for example when he blew up his kick drum on the Smothers Brothers show, it's like it never crossed his mind that packing a gunpowder charge big enough to permanently damage his guitarist's hearing might not be the best thing to do. He was incredibly intelligent, but he was nicknamed Moon the Loon for a reason. He would do absolutely crazy things, but to him they may have seemed perfectly reasonable. Townshend tells a story of the band leaving a hotel and racing to get to the airport to make a flight, when Moon suddenly shouted "Stop! We have to go back, I've forgotten something very important." They're thinking his passport or his airline ticket or something. They got back to the hotel, Moon races back up to his room, grabs the TV and throws it out the window. He came back down, "Whew, OK we can go now." Of course it was all a joke, and in a way making fun of himself, but he was willing to go to extremes that other people just wouldn't. I think that just unstoppable personality was the reason he played the way he did.
Theres a story in the book, "Moon," about when he was living in LA during the mid seventies and The Who had down time. Some people tried to get Keith into the studio to play drums for other artists. He couldn't do it. Im curious if this was more due to the fact he was messed up with booze/drugs rather than the inability to play with anybody but The Who. Hard to imagine one the greatest drummers of all time could only play with one band. However, Ive always felt The Who was a unique, special band separate from Beatles, Stones, etc....I could argue The Who was really the first punk rock band. If you can deconstruct what "punk" means, then The Who fits. Not just trashing equipment after a set but their attitude and live shows, especially early in their career, meets the criteria.
My favorite band for years! Been listening to the Who since '78.
If you read any Who biography the story goes that during the recording of I Can't Explain the producer told Kieth to "tone down" the drums and fills. Which of course spurred him on to do the complete opposite! Go Kieth!!
His name is K-E-I-T-H. Remember the rule: i before e except after K!!!
For those who say Moon couldn't keep time these early songs dispel that myth completely. He had great time when he chose to have it.
But it's clear on this clip he's getting his "signature" approach down by being right on the edge of being utterly chaotic and out of time on his rolls. His use of the cymbal wash instead of a hi hat groove is there and his snare technique of quick left hand driven rolls and accents is there also -- things he'd expand on with songs like "Won't Get Fooled Again".
Moon was lucky in that he had fellow musicians who put up with his frenetic wild approach and ran with it -- understanding his roll as a lead instrument with others keeping the time and tempo in check.
That's so rare!!! So could Moon have sounded good in another band? Sure. But is it likely he'd have found that combination of cantankerous but ultimately tolerant musicians to let him have free reign to be on that edge constantly -- basically redefining the roll of the time keeping rock drummer?
Probably not. He'd have wound up like Ginger Baker most likely. Bouncing from band to band and project to project burning bridges along the way until he was isolated and alone.
Very good observations
@@AndrewRooneyDrums Wont Get Fooled Again is a masterpiece and showcase of drumming. One of the greatest rock songs of all time. D the studio version because in the live version Keith was just months from dying and he was struggling. Bonzo insisted on being in the studio when Keith recorded his track for Won't Get Fooled Again. It's very, very important to not stop the song the first time through, and I can't tell you why, but if you stop it people will completely freak out. Plan to do it twice.
Don't know if you've ever heard of Viv Prince, but he played drums for the Pretty Things in 1964. I met Keith one evening in the 100 Club, Oxford Street, London. He came up and asked for a light and what I thought of Viv's style of play. Now Viv was a unique drummer with a brilliant style of his own, and when I saw The Who (at the time called The High Numbers) at the social club in Goldhawk road a bit later, Keith had adopted much of Viv's technique, so I think he went on to use and better that style. Incidentally, both were complete nutcases so that speaks volumes. Keith was in a class of his own, and would have enhanced any band because imo, he played lead as did Viv. In The Who's case they all played lead, and coupled with probably the greatest rock singer and a genius composer, were the greatest rock band of all time.
I hear you , being in the music and just being in that place where there's no thinking about what you are playing , your mind and body just know , when you are lucky enough to find other musicians that you connect with that way ,do not take it for granted , make the most of the time you have rehearsing and playing with that person or people , it's very very special and it's impossible to replicate in anyway whatsoever , I've been very lucky at 15 I met a guitarist And it was like we were telepathic , and the 2 of us met another guitarist who we had that with and for 12 years we created , played and enjoyed making music on a level that I've never experienced since
He always played what the song needed.
Listen to “Going Mobile” and “The Music Must Change” just to go into the deep cuts.
Moon played accents more than fills. He worked with whatever the lead vocalist, guitarist or bassist was doing. Though this song, being so early and before they really evolved into their songwriting and arranging, doesn’t show that as much.
And yeah, he was totally inside the music.
And every once in a blue “moon” he just played a beat.
Moon with another band ?
Try Beck's Bolero.
Moon with Jeff Beck (lead guitar) , Jimmy Page (12 strings guitar), John Paul Jones (bass) and Nicky Hopkins (piano). One take recording with the 5 guys playing live...
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a Quick one..on Rolling Stones rock and roll circus,,awesome live performance
He was a brilliant drummer his style of playing made The WHO. He could have run his own band if he wanted to, but when you are in the best band after The Beatles.
KM always played cymbals live. I believe his hi hat was simply clamped together so his feet could operate both drum pedals (double bass kit) this was in the studio. Hear it on Tommy & Who's Next. Cheers.
Keith Moon was the Sam Kinison of drumming.
Keith wasn't the best drummer, but he was my favorite for my whole life. First, he was crazy talented. He heard, and played in, holes in the music that weren't apparent to most listeners including his bandmates, and sometimes played rhythms that didn't coincide with the overriding rhythm of the song. Then he'd slide right back into the basic groove or follow Pete into whatever other groove Pete decided to play. The energy was beyond belief live, and the showmanship, and yes, the speed. And at some point, in the Who shows I saw him play, he'd find a way to make you laugh.
Kieth did play on Jeff Beck's first record Truth his name is not listed because of contractual obligations, it merely says "You know who". I have not looked at that great album in ages and I am unsure how many tracks he is featured on. I am equally unsure as to whether his playing was with a drum kit or was limited to the timpani. If anyone has any answers to these questions please refresh my failing memory.
Check them out as The High Numbers at (iirc) The Railway, even earlier footage of them.
I agree with Mr. Smalls...
Moon is the most natural drummer/artist/musician I've ever heard, and whatever music moved him, that he could get inside of... he would've been able to play.
The music of Pete Townshend happened to be that music!!
Moon had drive when he was young. When he wanted to learn, he went 'round to Carlo Little of Screaming Lord Sutch's house... and shoved money at Carlo to give him drum lessons, and Carlo gave him drum lessons.
Moon went up to Townshend or Daltrey and said " I'm better than your drummer " at a gig, and they let him play and he was their drummer from then on...
Point being... if he needed to learn to fit a style that he dug... he would have learned to play that style, and we can't but say that he would've been successful given the drive and obvious musical ability he displays.
I know you don't mean it to be insulting, but when you said he would've been seen as very " competent " in his time period, but not today... ( ? ) ... my jaw dropped!
His drumming here... is like an alien dropped in to play the drums for this song, lol! Or a time traveler for goodness sake!!
THIS IS 1965 DUDE, LOL!!
He is light years ahead of ANYONE in this era. The crispness, the originality, the power, the spirit, & the skill of the playing is just head and shoulders above ANYONE playing then!!
The rock drummers then... were very pedestrian. Moon was more like a swing drummer that decided to play rock and roll & use that swing style in the rock & roll; albeit with more power and lead like playing.
Later on in his development... Moon played within the playing of Townshend and Entwistle... also much like a swing player. He " digs that coal " underneath, ties the music together... like a swing player, again, later on in his development - Tommy and afterwards.
He's doesn't develop a groove style like a rock drummer... he develops a " dig that coal " style similar to a swing drummer.
Today... I can't tell one very " competent " drummer from the next!!
Mr. Smalls knew what he was talking about...
There are only three irreplaceable drummers that I've ever heard : Moon, Carey and Peart & Peart was gigantic Moon/Who fan.
I don't think that, and I may be wrong, swing drummers were there to keep time were they?
The players ( those not the drummer ) in a swing band played off of sheet music, right... and knew how to play with time signatures and in time... in that music, right?
It seems to me... that that is where Moon is coming from as Gene Krupa was one of his drum idols.
And we can't forget the love of the rolling type drumming in the Surf Music that Moon loved, as well! Surf is a swing type of music in rock, to me...
I just think that the missing key to understanding Moon is... swing drumming. If you try to make grooving rock drummers the comparison... yer gonna be confounded by his playing style in its later development.
PS: And Townshend's Father was a player in a swing band for the RAF called the Squadronaires and Townshend often said that he wanted his music to swing... and it did.
So, they were the perfect fit for one another... Townshend and Moon... & if you watch them live... Moon plays with Townshend not Entwistle...
Yeah... Swing is the key...
I think the answer is "don't care" he was in the Who! He did play with others but wasn't really interested. The who were never the same without him.
Andrew….Please watch Young Man Blues from Isle of Wight in 1970. It’s pretty epic. 🔥
My favourite song a preference
The something is mad genius!
He plays! hi-hats!, ck out their video for 'Who are you', my fav jam from The Who. It's on their yotube channel🤘🏼A live studio performance!
edit: his hihat set up is unorthodox too
I haven't seen it officially addressed, but I have to believe Keith Moon was at least hyper-active, if not clinically autistic. That comes out in his drumming. By 1964 Keith had obviously adopted Ringo's splashy cymbal style, which is why you don't really hear the high hat. The difference between him and Ringo (and everyone else, for that matter) is that Keith was *constantly* filling, so you just had a constant blur of sound coming from the drum kit. That encouraged Entwistle and Townshend to play more, not less, which led to The Who's early reputation as the most dynamic, loud and punk-ish rock band of their era.
I have seen commentary on Keith Moon from both Roger Daltry and John Entwistle that Moon always followed the vocals. Daltry went on to say that given that The Who was just a three piece band, Moon’s playing gave them a fuller sound.
On the "Classic Albums" series entry covering "Who's Next", Daltrey demonstrates at the studio soundboard, by isolating the drum track, that you can tell what song it is simply by the sound of Moon's drumbeat.
@@keithcarley Yes! That’s what I was referring to.
Pete Townshend once described the Stone Roses' drummer Reni as the most natural drummer since Moon.
He really was a surf drummer
To the guy that said "if he was in any other band he would sound like s#$%, I will tell you to listen to "Beck's Bolero", that's Keith on drums! Aslo rumor has it, that's his scream at the middle break
Would be fun to see an 18-year-old Andrew Rooney on his kit for two minutes.
Pete said Kieth always played the same fill, but had a thousand different ways of playing it.
I will get the exact quotes wrong but both Pete Townsend and John Entwistle have been reported to say, Keith Moon was the the energy and drive behind The Who, and John Entwistle was the time keeper.
Keith was a guy who played his personality both behind the kit and in the rest of his life.
Moon reminds of Jimi Hendrix, just couldn't do anything wrong in music. It's quite fascinating to hear him on a soft song and playing pretty hard but yet, it fits perfectly.
Check out Topper Headon for the Clash. He was self-taught drummer who was in a jazz band before he joined the Clash (a punk band if you've never heard of 'em).
not many people know that on the single I can't explain jimmy page from led zeppelin played guitar on both sides of the single
8:38 - You missed a great opportunity to say "I can't explain" what I mean by that. haha
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If this week doesn't include the Live at Leeds version of "A Quick One While He's Away" then the universe will be out of sorts.
Haven't read all the comments, so this may be redundant. The fact that the Who were a trio is probably a major contributor to the quantity of drumming that Keith did. There was a lot of sonic space that needed filling...
Doe's anyone else notice how Keith holds the stick as far down on the butt end as possible? Seems like the chance of dropping it is magnified tenfold... Is this a technique, or him just not giving a Fu$k.🤔
I believe I saw him using his high-hat in this video
This was maybe the Who's FIRST live performance on television. The producers wanted to create a sensation as large as possible, so they packed the auditorium with vetted, dyed-in-the-wool female WHO fans which they could rely on to scream like the girls screamed for the Beatles.
Keith heard what John was doing on his right, and what Pete was doing on his left, and he knitted them together.
Keith Moon early on played with a standard set with a hi-hat. Later, he had a giant set without a hi-hat. At this point, he played every song like it was one big drum solo, and Pete had a hard time following in time as Keith was all over the place. This was the Keith Moon people said would not work in another band.
He played hi-hat on alot of Who songs.
Do "My Generation" from the Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour. Wait till the end.
What did Neil take from his favorite drummer?
Was Neil Peart's fave drummer Keith Moon?
At his peak, he's top 15
The sixties is characterized by very versatile musicians who had a lot of different styles (ref. The skiffle , jazz m rock and roll, soul etc etc . that is unfortunately gone .
They look like criminals in a caper movie who have to act like the band to make their getaway.
Like a 60's rock and roll Soggy Bottom boys
He sounded ok on Beck’s Bolero.
Hey Andrew, I highly recommend reacting to Metallica “battery” live in Seattle 1989. I think you’ll love the energy and aggression
Now that's a great shout!
@@AndrewRooneyDrums sorry, that should have said the song “battery” live ins Seattle 1989
This was really fun to see. I don't think I have ever seen them performing while so young 😊 I'm one of the non Drummer people who enjoy your channel 🤗😁✌️
The WHO: Lead Guitar, Lead Vocal, Lead Bass, Lead Drums!!!!
Please check out the the who in Germany 65 I think doing my generation introduction by Jimmy Tarbuck. Moons playing is immense! He's really showing off but looks so coolThe footage belongs to the reelin in the years.
Glad you're doing this. Keith inspired me to start playing at the age of about 12 in 1979. Played in a lot of bands, but nowadays just playing the acoustic guitar and working.
I think he was quite unique, and an extremely melodic player. He was influential, but doesn't fit into the mainstream of drumming styles. It's surprising how difficult he is to emulate. You've got a chance of sounding like Bonham, but Keith was to individual and driven too much by spontaneity to be that closely copied.
It was a real part of keith's style to play a lot of fills. But some of them were some of the nicest fills you'll hear. I'm pretty sure he was on some extreme end of the ADHD spectrum.
Moon played "lead drums" in many regards. Think rock Gene Krupa Townsend's guitar was accenting Moon's playing with Entwistle often answering the vocals, in a modified version of many blues musicians. They were incredibly talented, a perfect storm. Moon probably could have adapted to another band to some degree, though they would also have to adapt to him. Just my observations
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All that crashing on cymbals meant he was 30 years ahead of grunge bands…
Just admit It Keith was awesome in this