Worlds Largest OpenRC F1 Car - Phase 6 // New Motor Mount and Testing!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 พ.ย. 2018
- FINALLY! The OpenRC F1 is READY TO GO! It needed a new motor mount, and here you see me getting that installed and testing, FOR THE FIRST TIME, whether or not it'll run.
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Joel, general rule in RC -> always turn the transmitter on first! It's a safety thing ;-) Can't wait to see the first runs of this beast!
I pretty sure ESC doesn't do anything without signals.
@@luongmaihunggia it can with interference.
@@isaaclyonsf1 explain
@@luongmaihunggia legally rc transmitters and receivers must accept any interference. Wi-Fi is transmitted at a similar frequency to the 2.4 that RC gear uses. And so if the car is on with no signal from the remote it may receive interference from Wi-Fi signals or other stuff. Hope this helps.
@@isaaclyonsf1 legally? Ok, explain THAT part.
I love how excited you are about this! Your excitement makes me even more excited about it!
I'm VERY excited about this!
Extremely excited about this project and can't wait to see it come to completion
Freaking awesome! Highfreakingfive! The rc will live!! Can't wait!!
Highfive right back!
Very nice, congrats on the progress so far.
Thank you!
That thing looks like an F-4 Phantom! Sick! Great job, again, Joel!
Feels like forever waiting to see this thing drive!
I cannot wait to see it go!!
GG
I can't wait to see that thing rip itself apart.
It's gonna be great !!!
Ive made my own, its fairly sturdy. The front and rear wings may as well be made of cardboard though
Love the mad scientist laugh when you fire up the motor :)
might just be the reflective properties of the texture but it looks a bit wobbly. and did i hear the belt skip a bit when he went faster? might want to look into that. Having a slower acceleration could help along with deeper grooves for the belt to grab onto
Oh yeah Joel - getting there!
Hey, 'mazin video as always man! I always enjoy your truly inspiring content!! ✋
Thank you very much! I'm just a nerd trying to have some fun :)
Great job
Holy shit! Great creation!
Thank you!
I am interested in picking up an Creality ender 3d, what website is safe to buy from?
That thing is insane!
I agree!
I would suggest silicone lubricant over oil for the bushings as it works better with coating and remaining on the plastic. While oil kind of soaks in and might weakn the plastic
If this build is for fun and you want it to break in amazement, all power to you(I would love seeing that video lol). Just make sure the axel as well as the wheel runs true please
Only 8 months in the making no big deal I’m on the edge of my seat waiting for this dang thing to move
good job
YAS!! This is great!!
I agree, and it's gonna GO!
Do any of these videos go over the steering he uses for this build? What kind of servo maybe?
What motor, esc, batteries etc. it has?
You should put some idlers to the left and over and under the motor pully. It looks to me like the belt doesn't cover enough surface area on the motor pully. The belt will probably skip and strip if you drove the race car in the current configuration.
What happened to two motors? I was looking forward to crazy speeds
use a bearing for the wheels?
Wow!!! Which battery did you use?
Can’t wait to see it move
You should put bearings on the axels so it will roll smother and cut on vibration
Please don't break it before you get a chance to show it at MRRF. We are all emotionally invested in this project and don't want our hearts broken, because you still love us, right?
Thanks Joel. It's getting real now. Fine as Frog Hair? Cheers, JAYTEE
Wasn't it supposed to use two of those motors for the weight? I expected to see one added on the other wheel as well as I clearly remember them talking in Phase 5 how those motors where only good for about 35 lbs out of the 55-60 it will weigh after the battery and the electronics!
The belt may still strip and slip. That axle isn't under load. You could probably test it with a large pipe wrench and just hold it a bit as you apply power. Give it a load and see if it strips.
You should install a FPV cam in the cockpit.
Wow there are much vibration inside our powertrain because the axis is not centered in a full turn. Why do you don't us a bearing for the axis?
Might I ask why the belt is external? Because it's on one side of the axle, not near the centre, it may cause asymmetrical drive; I had a similar problem with a Tamiya model of the 'Lunch Box' monster truck; it was driven by cogs on the right side, and as a consequence always turned to the left.
The belt is external because I wanted to see if the model would scale. I didn't want to change much of anything - this is all an experiment to see if that small model will work when embiggened. :)
@@3DPrintingNerd Ahhh! No worries! That makes sense. If it does cause torque, I'd love to see engineering to solve that!
@@3DPrintingNerd embiggened? I've never heard of that word before I moved to Springfield. That is quite the enlarged open rc f1 you got there!
@@3dlayerz24 Really? Embiggened is a perfectly cromulent word.
That kinda reminds me of a Phantom 4 jet with the wheels off. Perhaps your next large project might be a printed RC plane of some flavor.
great job! wow! on the glue if you use a tiny amount of acetone on pla it will take off the oil residues then you can use glue and it will hold. but gloop doesn't care about a oil film it bonds right though it anyway. again wonderful job what a inspiration thanks for sharing! we would also like to see the car actually drive. if not we will just consider the whole thing a big fail. hope it did not rip itself apart.
@ 3:36 Exactly what everyone was thinking!
You could create a vertical idler tension pulley set. One on top of the g2 belt, one on bottom of the g2 belt that pull against each other in between the motor and shaft pulleys. That would give you additional tensioning as belt stretches. It's going to be great seeing this running!
We thought of doing that, but not on this version. This version is all about whether you can make the small model bigger AND make it work with minimal changes.
Tensioning wheels top and bottom would also help get you more tooth engagement on your motor pulley. Currently you only have roughly 100 degrees of engagement which is only a few teeth on that small of a pulley. If you pinch the belt between the pulleys with idlers so that you get more wrap on the motor pulley you'll have less slippage as it'll be locked into more teeth (half the # of teeth on the pulley at 180 degree wrap, quarter of the # of teeth on the pulley at 90 degrees etc.)
didn't grip use an idler pulley to give belt adjustment like on a car alternator belt ;)
That castle system is way to much power for this Rc you could of gotten away with using a 1/8 scale system on maybe lets say 3s or 4s to power that rc the tires are not gonna grip is gonna drift more than its gonna drive other than that i love this thing and joel you are a BEAST!
Gut feel - that GT2 belt ain't gonna last long. Think you may need something more industrial.
That is one very small belt for a very large rc car :D looking forward to see it when it gets some load on it :)
I think it's going to be either a great success or an epic failure :)
It runs really true :-D
All Right!
Fun build. I think this one will likely have several failure points unless you use only a fraction of the power that motor can produce. Definitely lube the plastic bushing and keep the speed down so you don't melt that interface. Ivan Miranda has gone down this rabbit hole many times now. When you start adding power 3D printed parts become a chain of failures.
You will either have to dig in for a long haul of upgrades or figure out how to demonstrate it without breaking something and walk away ;-)
Several? I would think it'll have many. :)
@@3DPrintingNerd More coffee will be required ;-) Thanks for sharing.
Sometimes, things blowing up and failing makes for good “tv”
Honestly with that big of a reduction I dont even know how high of a speed he could get to.
Niiice Joel, good Work! I would highly recommend you to get some ball bearings for the axle. Plastic on plastic might work for some time but dont underestimate the power of your brushless motor. Those plastic bushings will wear out pretty quick i suppose...
Super quick for sure, but we had to try it. We will lubricate them as much as possible. Once we verify this all works, better parts go on.
I would agree with this, I printed an automatic can crusher and even with 608 bearings the gears would shift side to side and ended up melting together at higher speeds.
Why you did Not modify with bearings to axis?
Not yet. We will in the future I believe. Just wanted to see if this would work.
i want to see luke from out of darts looking at this thing lol
Mount a proton pack to it! then have the worlds largest 3d printed RC car with a 3d printed nerf blaster attached to it lol
so many Frys!
I've been researching and watching tutorials for years now. I'm looking for one with a plate size at least 6x9, easy for beginners but great for expansion (for a business) as well. I use Blender and other software plus I'm a fast learner. Can you help me out please with any suggestions!?
I forgot. Are you going to buy some large roller bearings for the rear axle?
Yes. For the first "go" we will use the PLA bearings / bushings just to see if it works. We will throw some sort of lubricant on them just to be sure.
Mad respect for this! Looks super cool! Question, what cable connectors are those from the motor to box? Push connect or screw? I'd love to get some for my projects. Also, where on Earth did you get that battery?! What is it, 50,000mAh?!
Generally, motors are connected to the esc with bullet connectors (I assume that is what your asking about)
@@deathnightANIMATED yep those are the ones! Looks awesome! Gotta get some!
@@deathnightANIMATED however, his are super smooth and look magnetic. Is that a thing?
Oh boy that is a fortune worth of filament
Why are you using a plastic bushing instead of a bearing?
To see if it would work
Magic goo to the Rescue!!
That stuff is LEGIT
Size-wise, how does that bushing compare to, say, the trailer beatings for a small trailer that you can buy at most hardware stores? I'm thinking that even if it was an ugly hack you do on the inside of the body with some fabricated bearing mounts, that might have more longevity than the pla on pla which I fear will melt and friction weld itself together before too long.
Anyway, keep up the great work on the project. Maybe the finished product will show up at MRRF 2019 😀
The bushing is going to melt and it's going to be crazy. I just want to get it moving, then we find the right parts to get in it! I would LOVE to bring this to MRRF!
check out the evil laugh 5.15 Joel should be a bond villain
"Hello Mr. Bond!"
No more further updates about OpenRC F1? :(
Can you tell us more about the belt you're using? I'm worried that's just not beefy enough.
It's a 600mm GT2 6mm wide belt. It may not be, only time will tell :)
@@3DPrintingNerd Best of luck! I was just looking around. There are different options in this range, in terms of durability and construction. For reference: www.sdp-si.com/products/details/timing-belt-detail.php
im printing one just as this came out xD
Good luck!
Car-azy!
That belt is going to snap
Put some gokart wheels in, a 10kw motor and an fpv kit in the driver seat!
1 I put go kart tires and they just ended up being too heavy
2 he put Literally the most powerful brushless motor you can obtain in it, its abit overkill
i know you probably won't but it would look awesome painted
I think I may do that :)
Will you be bringing that back to MRRF 2019?
That I do not know. I would love to, but, it's such a pain in the butt to ship.
It’ll be less of a pain when you don’t care about keeping it together because it blew up. 😂😂
Very cool, but I'm even more curious about the Simplify3D debacle. Their web page no longer shows your picture and endorsement (and also not the other prominent makers), so I'm guessing he (the Simplify3D developer) didn't take the critizism well. And the new update is so chock full of bugs (after almost a year in the making) it can't be trusted. Will you make any update videos on this?
I emailed and asked to have my photo and word removed. They sent an email saying they would do it, and then they removed everyone. If I have the time I'll make an updated video.
@@3DPrintingNerd That shows integrity! Kudos to you.
Why not HTD belts ?
We went with this because it was easy to acquire and we had some. Once we can verify it moves, the drive system will see some changes to make it go faster :)
Why such an oversized polie on the weel side...it's almost the size of the tire. That will give a lot of spin but not much speed. Great project, can't wait to see it go!
That's just how the model scales!
When you find a new 3D printing TH-camr, and then you find out he’s just you from the future
MRRF race, Joel? I emailed you!!
Gonna shake itself to pieces. Did you see how much it bounced from just running the pulley?
It sure will! Let's hope I get that on camera.
sweet....sooo close
I told you, it won't be last video :-D
Placing bets on that drive system failing first. That's a lot of torque on a very small contact surface. I think a standard multi v belt like on a car would be better suited. Also if it did slip a little it won't tear teeth off.
Ive made my own exept i used two traxxas x01 ( castle mamba monster) motors and chain drive pullys. The rest is from the design with no modification.The rear wing ripped clean off due to drag, then the drive shaft snapped because it was made from solid plastic, lastly the front wheel bushings friction fused together and rolled it.
That plastic bushing and axle will weld together very quickly. It's not going far.
Yes it will! We will be finding metal bearings and bushing and what not.
Is this project dead? Or did I miss the follow up video?
Runout they asked......, runout....., what runout he says...... :-)
Uh, what? Haha. Fine as frog hair. 🐸
Like others have said transmitter always gets switched on first. Secondly the belt is too tight, add some lube before you run it again
I really want to see this potentially dangerous car drive.
WOW ! But you may experience excessive wheel hop. The axle does not appear to spin concentrically when you tested it. Please say your printing a scale you for the cockpit,just to give it " THE FULL JOEL"
OH, for sure. It's going to be insane making this thing go. All sorts of crazy things will go wrong, until it's supported by the #FullJoel
3D Printing Nerd just in case no one told you, You Rock! Hi FIVE
you should use a t5 pulley and timing belt at least, they won't skip at a high torque...
I was about to suggest that, HTD5 or classic T5 and 15mm wide should do the trick. GT2 is definately not designed for these loads
I think the axle would give before the belt slips
@@woutchauvaux6672 Good point, I forgot about the plastic axle. Well in that case it's just extreme overkill, like having a Lamborghini V12 in a VW golf
Oh, for sure. GT2 is not the optimal belt for this. However, we went with what we had and was available to us easily. The goal is to get it moving, and at some speed. There is NO WAY it'll hit 200mph with what we have now. It'll need some changes.
@@3DPrintingNerd Cool project nontheless, requires quite some dedication to make models on this scale! As with any project, there is always something to improve and it's important not to get bogged down in too many details and just make something cool! (and knowing the limitations is half the work)
Go, Go, Go, Speedracer...
So should we plan to see this thing tearing up the track at MRRF 2019???
That would be AMAZING but shipping this thing sucks.
Understandable. See you (and Shaun, you the man Shaun!) there in late March!
If your lipo case isn't vented with a small hole or two you have a bomb
True!
what type of Remote Control is that, looks pretty 🤔😉
Frsky horus x 10
@@nhansen7231 thanx🌹
@Joe H thanx🌹
A very large one not meant for what we are using it for :)
@@3DPrintingNerd got it bro, frsky horus X12 S 😉😉
cheers💖
It's plastic on plastic, we might need some lubricant on there......
"I'll get the LARD!!"
Have Fun,
Joe
Have you tried out actual bushing material filament for anything before? www.igus.com/3d-print-material/3d-print-material
I just want to know what the second song is
Um... Maybe my editor would know?
@@3DPrintingNerd Looking your way Sean! All seriousness i'm really excited for this build to be finished!
Aw man, I’m gonna have to go look now. 😂
@@Aidenn23 i would be forever grateful
Isn't there supposed to be a differential
No, not on the OpenRC model
@@3DPrintingNerd okay just asking
That axel looks to be off balance. I'd look into that before it fails catastrophically.
A Horus? Man, you don't do it by halves, do you?
Hey. uh. tip for ya. don't use a stick radio for an rc car. use a pistol grip style radio for it. also your shafts and wheels have to be true, especially at the scale you're doing here.
Oh, I know, but, this is what we've got, so going to use it for the initial run.
He looks like markleplier
That motor is going to destroy that thing haha. Would definitely recommend dialing back the total throttle output to like 15%
15% still seems crazy fast hahahah
@@3DPrintingNerd haha, looking forward to see what you end up doing in the next vid.
This needs RCLifeOn
I would LOVE to bring Simon in on this!
@@3DPrintingNerd it would be neato
Wonder if one day Joel will print a car big enough for him to ride.
Dare to dream!
Chrysler was messing around with injection molding a car in the 90s(?) so making a car out of plastic can be done. It'll take a while to print one though.