WHY?!ðĪĢ The MOST EXPENSIVE TIRES on Peugeot RCZ R! // NÞrburgring
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00:00 Intro/Specs
02:20 Lap 1
12:50 Lap 2
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As the owner of the car, thanks guys, made my evening! The car is incredible in stock form, the chassis, the suspension, a Michelin PS4S is easily the weakest link on a track so I upgraded to the very best. The endless brakes made it even better. There's always room for improvement but I will stop at this point because it's an awesome and reliable everyday car too. Goes around a track like this while I can fit all 4 wheels in the back with 1 week of luggage and a passenger next to me and go on a holiday in the greatest comfort. The wind noise: a shitty window seal on the right, needs to be fixed, above 170 starts to get a bit noisy. Bodyroll: 0. Also I'm not small but Thor is way bigger than me :D Cheers everyone!
Awesome car dude and thanks for not getting your phone outð
Nice car dude, glad you're taking care of it, suspension looks really nice and supple stock. Like they say, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Lmao I was thinking you looked like small Thor! Btw great car, really cool setup. Peugeot is back in endurance racing, maybe something trickles down :)
As the owner of a normal RCZ I wonder how you fit all the tires in the car, I have tried but couldn't do itð
Baby your car it's a Peugot not a Toyota oh and repairs and maintenance will break the bank
That E46 M3 driver had no idea what happening when that Peug stayed on his ass en got even closer in corners... ð
This "pilot" as you say is more than bad otherwise the Peugeot would not get any closer. For example at 5:18 he does not know how to take his trajectories so imagine the rest..
Probably find himself banned after his undertake at 4:40
@@Walter_White66 An RCZ might not have the same power, but it will go around a corner. Especially with these tires.
th-cam.com/users/shortsLcKaSF-w5JI?si=Gxy1d5kA-HVLSKWI
Small fact: this car came with forged internals and until the release of the GR Yaris, it was the most power 1.6L engine
Didn't they say the Peugeot RCZ R made 270hp? In the Australian market the Yaris makes 268hp meaning the RCZ is more powerful, unless the Yaris is more powerful in other markets.
the facelift makes 300hp stock
RCZ or Yaris?â@@yobama8344
and yet its a shit engine
@@noext7001 wrong
200km/h uphill with 1.6 hell yeah
Yeah I mean 270hp isnât a small amount
well.. doing that a couple of times is probably gonna kill it. I had a 208 with the same engine and only had issues with it.. they're great when they work. WHEN they work
That boosted life!
@@l33tnobody1337different internals on this to the 208 - the 208 engine has the same setup as the 2010/2011 308GTI 200bhp - I had one and had nothing but issues with the engine as well
@@lbnewell23 you know what its the weith for the car? Dont talk shiit
that bmw rolling in at the start is a great way to butter us up for a banger of a video
th-cam.com/video/0jez99L1IA8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=S4rgLUKlIiSqZMIv if you missed it!
@@mgcharoudin Absolute legend! what a machine
@@mgcharoudin Hy. I have a small comment.
The "stiffness of the body" is not sufficient "the body is twisted".
I looked the round loud and noticed that the "wind noise" appeared at 140-150 in the corner.
When running straight, it appears after 170-180.
This is due to "body twisting".
A lot of people don't know, but I'm sure you've already experienced it with cars with a "floor shifter".
Even the "planes of the gear stages can move" so much that the driver switches to two instead of four in the corner (with large lateral forces), of course, this also depends on how stable the fix of the gearbox is.
And the owner talked about further developments, which means even greater power effects.
Do you think that a little extra bracing (reinforcement) on the body would be necessary? I mean roll cage or half roll cage.
I would like your opinion.
@@detudnormi2215the body twisting is probably because its âover tiredâ on regular PS4âs this would probably be less severe
@@lbnewell23
Yes, (finally someone who understands why I wrote). Misha talked to the owner about harder suspensions and even more horsepower. At that time, this phenomenon will also increase.
For this reason, it would be good to go after it with "body stiffness".
That's all I wanted, thank you and have a nice day.
P.S. With your permission, I will copy your message to anyone who thinks I am worried, envious or have written anything bad about the car, the driver and his abilities.
14:50 that corner speed was pretty much equal to the last 991.2 GTS video, no wonder the owner was checking the speedometer several times more and more scared :)
I loved the owner reaction. His eyes were hilarious
Ill never understand this. There are many cars Misha drove that came close to cornering speeds of 911, 991 or GT3rs or whatever Porches best car is. And those cars cost like 10k euro vs Porsche being 200k. Why is porsche 50x the price? And how are these shitboxes cornering almost as fast as a racecar?
@@tehmikesclips this is not a shitbox, it has almost 300 horsepower wich is a lot for an average car, plus it has top tier tires, tires are the most important thing for cornering speed, toghether with aero, but thats another topic
ââ@@tehmikesclips because their are plenty of cheaper hot hatches and cars similar to this that are extremely capable. Supercars are very overrated for their price, but if you want a car, like a porsche that is clearly super quick, then you need to pay a whole lot more for not really a huge gain, unless driven at the absolute limit to which most of us couldn't achieve.
That Peugeot rcz would be tonnes of fun and much more suitable to the avg driver than a porsche imo.
@@tehmikesclips mostly because of Physics: The tires on the RCZ are more extreme than those of most Porsches, the RCZ weighs about 1.350kg which is also a bit lighter than modern Porsches, the center of gravity is quite low on the Peugeot and it has decent Suspension. The tire size an power is now the limit for the Peugeot, Porsches roll on way bigger tires and obviously have more power.
Most people recommend tires for a first upgrade -- and this guy took that recommendation VERY seriously.
What a machine. No one really knows about the RCZ Râs infinitely better than the mk2 and mk3 Audi TT for pure driving fun. They came with Alcon calipers, differential and stronger engine internals. Great vid. Mishaâs face said it all.
Modern tires (tyres) on older cars - underrated mod!
You are wrong. Modern tires make a great difference on old cars. For example, Ferrari F40 with modern tires is a better car.
@@MDEV-86x86 He literally says that... Try reading next time
@@MDEV-86x86 You didn't read my comment correctly, its underrated -> not enough people do it
@@S3v3n13tt3r5 Ok. Sorry !.
Agree! There is a point though were it becomes silly (too modern tyres on too old cars), i can speak from my own experience...... I have a Peugeot 305 GT from 1985 with very soft stock suspension, running Nankang NS-2R semi's. Last years laps on the ring made for some hilarious pictures. Bodyroll 10x, all the corner speeds, but 0 power on the straights. It might seem silly, but i still can't wait to take it to the ring again this year. And if the stars allign, a lap with Misha in the 305 would be the icing on the cake.
ÃĐgalitÃĐ, fraternitÃĐ, Peugeot coupÃĐ!
Pas mal non? C'est Français!
J'aurais plus dit Renault mais si tu veux
@@jules_gouget Renault fait plus souvent des trucs cool (nouvelle A110, MÃĐgane RS etc...) Peugeot en fait beaucoup plus rarement mais en gÃĐnÃĐral, lorsqu'ils en font c'est des bangers
This is my favorite video in the years of following your channel Misha. And you did two laps! What a bonus. Shame that the GoPro kept falling off time and time again - LOL! What a great little car the RCZ-R is especially for having only 1.6 liters!
It was quite funny to see the man getting slung around like a rag doll in his own car with those high speed corners lol.ðĪĢððŧ
3:10 thats a north american civic si. Service member mustve imported that. Would be nice to see you drive that!
Finaly!!! A weapon! Another Peugeot very underated...should have been a proper R close to 300hp...love it!
I've said that in the other RCZ's video ð the R version is totaly different! Great Misha, glad u had fun with this amazing car!
That E46 overtaking on the right of the FK2R Civic at th-cam.com/video/tvu_vdruW8k/w-d-xo.html is a true to form behaviour for him sitting in front of the Peugeot for the next 2 minutes without checking his mirrors
BMW driver doing BMW driver things... ð
@@cem330 Its just the dutch driving style ð
@@tadassmolskas3014 The BMW has a Luxemburg licence plate, not Dutch :)
Not that often that the cars get a second lap on this channel, but when they do.... Holy shit what a beast!! (Also the car is pretty insane too) ðĨðĨ
Cup 2 r but those tyres were still pushed to the limit... it was not the most cost efficient tyre for the car but they looked like they were put to good use by misha, therefore the owner got his money's worth. ð
An intelligent owner: he puts on excellent tires to fight. Bravo !.
Yeah I don't see any reason to question it. I have Cup2 on my Miata and I'd love to upgrade to the R, not that I ever see them in my size
Most of what separates the best handling cars from more normal cars is just tyres. Sure suspension and layout etc are important but most cars with decent suspension are improved by running the best possible tyres
Mayb with a bit of a stiffer suspension it would do much better
Always thought this is a nice looking car
Wow, this RCZ R runs really well. Thanks for great car and video
19:15 The stone cold face of "I almost messed up" is so dangerously relatable.
A fraction of a second spent looking at the rear view mirror almost lead to you going into the barrier ðŽ
lol yeah, diff sent a lot of power to the outside wheel lol. Mine does that sometimes too
I've always liked this car, I don't know why Peugeot stopped making it.
Liked it to see, too. Peugeot had some nice goes in the past, like the 406 Coupe, or in the 80s they had a prototype Peugeot Oxia/Oxya, great car to see back then!
Itâs sh1t
Because Stellantis want them to become a pseudo luxury brand, Peugeot Sport is now just participating in WEC and that's it sadly...
@@christian-van-e I also remember the 405 mi16 , that car was amazing to drive, it was lightweight with a manual and an exciting engine.
It really is a shame Peugeot doesn't have it anymore when it comes to Sporty cars.
I'm imagining a refresh with design cues from 9x8, I think it would be amazing.
They look soo good.. future classic! Would love to hear a 406 v6 -97 engine in it!ð
It's rare that a passenger makes Misha look small.
RCZ R really cool sport car.ð Good tyres ð
It's not a sports car at all
Why not?
Next: Peugeot 208 Pikes peak (875HP) on Cup 2 R! ð
You'd need to change the diffs on that car for the ring, since in it's spec for Pikes peak it tops out at 240kph or 149mph. With that amount of grip and power it would be banging the limiter in 6th gear nearly half of the lap :D
I Love the RCZ Especially in the R spec. It's such a good looking car!
Pug and Citroen need another fun car on their roster, as the last 208 GTI and DS3 Performance along with the 308 GTI were all peaches.
As a superbike guy, just can admire my guy Misha. Love playing with car-guys who drive so sharp. Love y'all from Spain ðŦĄðŠðĶ
Hell yea never seen one before but drive the hell outa it in gt7 ð
rcz R damnnnn these are rare as hell to see
Depends. They're not rare at all in The Netherland for example.
And with manual transmission !.
The R-version (270 HP) is rare, also in the Netherlands.
3054 ever made
They will be in some years as some of them get destroyed by inexperienced sporty drivers, other abusing revs, and when the age starts to get some of them too.. I bet if laws still allow for ownership and selling of used internal combustion cars these cars will sell for the equivalent of 60k⎠if there are no penalties for owning such cars of course
What, no lap 3? :)
Car was absurd, would love to see one with 50-100 more HP and suspension/camber change.
There's a 308 Cup if you wanted to see that ð Or the slightly more road-legal "308 RC ByFactory" which is basically a custom-built 308 GTi with the cup running gear and some various other bits.
Not sure anyone has done similar things to the RCZ-R, but the 308 and RCZ are basically the same car anyway - RCZ is prettier and more luxury-focused, 308 has more tech and is a tiny bit lighter, so for this stuff basically the same. The 308 in either of those versions with the widebody is sexy too.
@@ApothecaryTerry Gosh damn they built a 308 Cup ? ðĪĐ
@@jonathanb.1625 Sadly not a road legal one! Just for a race series, but apparently it's quicker in the wet than a McLaren GT4 car - not in the dry, but that still says a lot about the handling, I'd love to try one but I imagine that would cost a lot...
The potential in this car...
Lovely car, lovely colour âĪðĨ°
Impressed with the relative lack of tyre squeal ðð
We all know you're a legend Misha, but that 2nd lap was special âĪ
This is a great track car. I had de 308 GTi 270 by PSE which is almost exactly the same car. Its also way better in corners than my new M235i.
Another nice attractive sport coupe we donât get in the states.
The Peugeot RCZ is too under rated, probably due to the badge as the front. If only there was some company doing a facelift front including the headlights.
The creeks in the interior are also horrible.
@@lhzsdgsfbvv Add a company building some interior updates.
Well, its 1.6 THP... one of the shittiest BMW engines.. I guess thats the reason they are under rated, honestly I would never buy it just because it comes with this engine.
If it had been rwd it would have sold waaaaaaaay more
@@silvinjo654 mine is fine. Newer ones more sorted !
Been looking forward to this. Iv got the exact same model and colour but with a few mods. His review will help me see areas to improve
Just remember you need Cup 2R tires.
@@S.Madman I did get Yokohama ad09 on mine made a big difference on track lol
I love Misha's video anyway but as an RCZ owner I particularly love the RCZ vids and seeing Misha impressed. There will always be RCZ lovers and haters who've never owned or driven one. Me personally, I will keep mine to the day I die, I'll sell my Jacobs or kidney before selling my RCZ for two reasons:
1 it belonged to my late mum, a gift from me to her.
2 It's a fantastic car. (I'd keep it even if it wasn't but fantastic is better.)
Thank you for the video Misha and thank you for sharing your car with Misha and us.
That was even enjoyable to watch. Low power with lots of grip is always key to fun :D
The rear window of this Peugeot is a masterpiece because it was very technical to give it this shape, it is practically unique in the world.ð
I never really gave much thought to these, but that was seriously impressive. Epic bit of kit.
7:13 the smile as you look to see the bmw losing pace behind lol much love misha
Misha was carrying more speed than an 80s drug dealer!
I love the fact Misha can squeeze everything of any car!
I do quite like these, but shame they didn't do a v6 mid engine version or just mid engine from the start like the GT3 car on Gran turismo
perfect weather for those tires , nice run :D
Hope people realise that Peugeot is pretty good, the cornering speed of these is amazing, got a 206 s16 with bc coil + tuned ecu, its a touge monster
Looks from behind same as infront. Proper Lap! What a fast Car
If this isn't a video that answers the question "which mod should I do first on my X" than idk what would
Faster than expected.
Was that an M3 infront, or just a 330i? Either way, effortlessly keeping up to it is insane for a Peugeot
M3 e46 343hp
@@esppse4732 He is referring to the F80 / F30 chassis later on
340i with M Sport Package
this setup is insane
Thanks for your work, Misha (aka the face of Moai) and thanks to the owner for choosing this car, I prefer it more than the Audi TT. Greetings!
So sad that we don't have this R version here on my country just the RCZ and AT! RCZ-R seems a nice and funny car! I own a DS3 and i like it so much too! Second lap was much much better
Looks like a blast! Gonna research these cars, never heard of em before.
Ah, nice laps!! Also very impressed with the carððŧ
Plz try to do a lap with 208 by Peugeot sport
It has nothing to do with the normal gti
The French have a lot of flair when it comes to setting up chassis
Such an awesome car, had the 200 hp version back in 2011.
frickin glued to the track xD
Nice to see a peugeot run like that. Now the owner can know how fast his car can be. :)
I wonder if an insta 360 go camera would be good for the dash. Their smaller and shouldn't fall off because their lighter. Love the RCZ I've been trying to find a nice one for a while now. Something about the bubble glass roof ð
This rcz R itâs the same chassis as RCZ cup ( race car ) ð. Info become by peugeot when i worked for PSA group
these cars are kinda cool looking, the design aged very well imo and nothing else really looks like them
For the gauges camera you should have a rubber strap that is adjustable and grips around the whole steering column. Something like a GoPro chest mount but only single strap. I think there are "wrist" mounts for GoPro that offer something like that but would need a bigger strap.
Reminds me of Opel GT, there is quite a few cars like these, its like you forget they even exist.
This is the only Peugeot that I like, modelwise.
And this one seems to have a great engine as well.
Seems very smooth vehicle ð
I owned an RCZ for 7 years. The handling is phenomenal. I had mine on Eagle F1 tires. Think of a speed that you think you can handle a corner at, and just add 20%.
Must admit, never been a fan of these since driving the 200bhp version, felt too slow and loose. But just goes to show what a difference a little more HP, pads and tires can do. ðð― ððž
Love the look of the RCZ's. How good would they be with a small block V* or a decent turboed 6?
Gorgeous looking car. Always a pleasure to see these on the road.
Probably the only Peugeot I would ever own
Do it, i have One, its amazing ð
Great lap! nice car
I love the idea of stock suspension relatively stock power but with great tires, so you can have fun at low speeds with high corner speed and good braking thanks to the tires!! You can have fun in a car like that without endangering everybody else on the road!!
I was looking for brakes today for the R and its a disaster. I only find a supplier selling the OEMs for 1400 Euro only for the front.
What brakes are on that one again? is the brake caliper a different one than original?
btw. i hate that the RCZ R doesnt have any gauges like oil temp, oil pressure, boost etc. theres nothing other than the water temp.
@mgcharoudin Misha, try to wipe a panel with antisilicone (e.g. Baslac 70-10, Standox antisilicone or any other for car bodyworks). The camera would definitely hold much better. It doesn't need much, just a slight wipe.
Yellow lights killed the fun, this seems such a fun car. Please do another lap later!
i have normal RCZ 1.6 200km. Great car, great handling. Would be nice to have a bit more power but stage 1 without mods make only like 230km and extra 70 ps. still have to do it and downpipe + some exhaust swap for sure. its look way better in real life than in photos or videos
This thing is insane !
I'm now going to tune my 1.6 THP 175 ð
To get a THP 175 anywhere near this fast you're going to be spending at least double what it would cost to buy an R (or 308 GTi) ð
@@ApothecaryTerry Forged internal, K04 turbo and ur good to go for 300+hp :)
I'm only aiming at 220 hp with stock internals - and I already got the parts installed, just need a tune -ð
@@jonathanb.1625 GTi already has the forged internals so I think there are 2 possible conclusions here.
1: If you want performance and value, just buy a R / GTi.
2: Tuning is fun.
There is (obviously) no wrong answer, and it sounds like you picked option 2 ð I'm too lazy to tune so I bought a 308 GTi (with a decat) because it's ideal for me, or at least tuning can't make it less...French (cupholders for everyone but the driver...nobody else does this ðĪĢ).
Tuning means it's your car the way you want it though, you're starting with a great chassis and power is overrated anyway so 220hp sounds good to me - I swapped a Porsche for my 308 because I don't need to go that fast, but even the 308 is silly to be honest, I've got more hp/tonne than a Testarossa!
@@ApothecaryTerry Tuning is funnier ð
I got a french sports car shitbox (Peugeot 207 SW RC - Misha covered it in a video -), it's hilarious the way this car is a sleeper !
The 308 GTi is my dream daily car tbh ð
With minor mods (same as yours + oil catch can + bigger intercooler and a light tune), it can roooooooooocks ! I would love to drive one at the track ð
@@jonathanb.1625 I need to go watch Misha's video of your car! After tonight's football ð Having a car people don't expect to be fast is the most satisfying since you also have no pressure to drive fast most of the time!
The 308 GTi is a great daily, although it's very...French ðĪĢ Things like only cupholders for passengers, no oil temp gauge on a performance car and loads of similar stuff. All minor things though, so I'm glad I bought one - and I did a *lot* of test drives before choosing it! Haven't been on track with mine...yet. Front brakes need doing so I'll decide if I finish them on track or perhaps buy better pads next time that will work on track.
1.6cc, 270 HP amazing!
Its amazing how a good line gives you the carry on speed after overtook bmw you dropped it after 1 second as will smith once said .." now thats how you drive ..." âĪ
maybe dont need new suspension, camber bolts if possible. edit. dont know if toyota bolts would fit it, i managed to get -0.7camber extra with 1 upper strut/knuckle bolt(90105-15006) on Celica.
Very interesting looking I like it, didnt sell in states
wooooow! Sem dÚvidas nenhuma eu fico mais apaixonado por esse carro a cada dia!
This engines sound is so good
Can someone tell me what sunglasses is Misha using? I really love them.
Thats something like 650-700⎠a tire.. damn! Car has so very much potential, need to keep pushing it :D
That is a really nice looking car, it has that kind of look that makes people wonder what it is..
This car is owned by a man with his automotive priorities in the correct order.
Drives great! I was considering building a daily 2.0 diesel one of these!
Building one...?
In my experience the hdi/tdci engine will actually be very reliable as long as you are not overdue on oil changes and oil filter changes, also check for leaks in the injector seals, and everything will be fine
@@manuelventura3799 these engines last 400K km
@@manuelventura3799 Got a long history with the 2.0 hdi, currently dailying a 150 brake Berlingo van 8valve Bosch. It's been a great thing, 6 or 7 years now very reliable yoke. I've been debating the 16v HDIs with myself for a while now and the rcz looks like a good chassis!
Indeed, if you can find anything with good kilometres it's a good choice, just make sure to know the previous owners habits, and as always change the oil and all filters right away just to be safe, and try requesting a 5W-30 low in SAPS to avoid carbon deposits formation and turbo failure â@@Maksimov1337
Did you change camera settings? The picture was incredible ðĪŊ
That indicator sound sounds familiarðð
Ok Misha, what are the top handling mods in your opinion?
Would love to see you driving the 206 Rc
Good video
What a fast car. Never knew of this R model. Hairdresser jokes aside, nice car.
Ah yes, the Aldi TT
What a wonderful momentum car.
Tires are big thing when you drive a lot... not matter do you have fwd hyunda, or 922 turbo S.... my mom has michelin pilot sport 4S on here hyundai.