My 14900KS, bought from Overclockers of course ❤, has a global SP of 103, with P Core SP of 117, E Core SP of 76 (which is what is reducing the global value) and MC SP of 86. That makes the P Cores and MC much better than my 13900K. Custom loop and going DD with Velocity2 conversion kit.
Sweet! I have Global SP 102, P cores 115, E core 77 and MC 75 and runing 48GB Teamgroup 8200 stable. Had to lower SA voltage to 1 1.181v as I think that Asus Apex Encore has the System Agent voltage bug.. hard lock at certain voltage and mhz wall. I also am using the EK Velocity2 block and have the DD kit upgrade for it still in the box.. debating if this cpu is worthy or not.. haha. Part of me wants to exchange it.. another part says go foe the win with the under dog!
@@VaporEclypsewhich bug it have? I own apex encore 14900ks sp 108 p122 e81 mc sp 92 8400mhz g skill ram xmp tweaked passed 6:10hours memtest86 now I want to tune this. Beast for gaming
I upgraded from a 12900k to a 14900k for my silent PC Turned off 50% e cores and I set them to 2.9. P cores at 5.1. It’s about 10% slower than stock, 15% slower than your tuned specs (depressing lol) however it uses less than 100W 99% of the time and occasionally pulls 125W. It has 140W power limit. I also use a 4070 as I can get it to sip less than 140W. The end result being a passive PC that can actually run passive under low/medium loads and less than 600rpm fans under full load when gaming at 4k and streaming to TH-cam. 😊 Great video!
@@mythbuster4315 I have the original Z790 Hero so I don't think there's any chance of 8400, especially as my kit is 7200 🙂. On an Apex I would think it very likely with a good 8000MTs kit.
My 14900KS has global SP 102.. P.115 E.77 and MC 75.. I have the Apex Encore and maybe a SA bug. I have to lower the SA voltage to 1.181v so I can run my Teamgroup 48GB 8200.mt ram stable at xmp. Thats as far as I've tried so far.. plenty tested with TM5 and cinbench r23 and gaming! Fast haha
Awesome video TY! Where can i find some of the BIOS settings you changed for gaming profile? Looking for some ideas (appreciate silicone lottery etc) - Much Appreciated
still rolling the dice on some of the quality of these, you might get one that thermal throttles 100c on a water cooled AIO stock speeds or you might get one that chills at 75 deg
@@Urmomsfathoe I just bought one and picked it up at Micro Center today, totally plan on De-Lidding it and going Direct Die with a Custom Hardline Loop, but the guy at Micro Center basically said the same thing, its a lottery and I could end up with a chip that throttles right out of the gate, or have one that could chill at 70-80degrees. keeping my fingers crossed though. Im trying to blow the transformer outside of my house lol.
Just RMA'd my second 14900ks. Not going to run it with a load of LLC even at stock. 14900k is where I get off the Raptor train. I have owned 12900k & ks, 13900k and ks and 14900k and they all work fine, the ks is not good for me at least.
I have new settings which I am using for my i9-13900k and i9-14900k. I don’t like the uncertainty of undervolting so prefer working with power and clock limits. With these settings I got a couple of FPS BETTER on CP2077 and Forza Horizon Benchmark, went from 99th to 98th percentile on PC Mark Extended, passed the Time Spy Stress Test, Time Spy was within a whisker of the average for my hardware, Cinebench R23 finished between 37-38000, CPU-Z, Intel Diag tool and Prime95 was stable and < 90 degrees. MCE off, PL1 and PL2 limit to 225, limit P-core boost to 5.3 GHz and E-core boost to 4.0GHz, and use balanced power profile in Windows (although I do disable core parking to keep system highly responsive). Oh and just XMP on the RAM. I didn’t change LLC or voltage offset values. With these settings, you should have no stability issues, be able to run on an air cooler like the NH-D15 (what I use on my 3 i9 13th/14th gen systems) and will barely notice any performance changes in gaming or productivity.
Update: I have now set voltage offset at a modest -0.010v. I have disabled the C6&C7 C states and EIST. I have then increated max P core clock to 5.5GHz and E cores to 4.3GHz. Lastly I have locked AVX at 0 offset. I have tested on P95/CB R23 and CB R15. All great and in a mid 20 degree room, no workload exceeds 80c on package or cores. Happy Bunny!
@@a120068020 You don't need to disable C-States at all. If you're after power saving and cool operation especially at or near idle, you want these on. Especially since it'll cut how much voltage is going there when necessary and prolong lifespan further. Also to a certain point Ring Ratio is free, it's all tied and shared in regards to vCore, so if it runs it runs with no required vCore or stability issue, if a certain ratio's native VID (you cannot control this directly) demands more, you'll see a spike in load voltage. Then you can set a cache offset to make that request back to where it was, and it may or may not be stable at that point, too.
@@bighill8272 you can always use AMD. if it works and you want to program every game and program and you can deal with stutters and miserable 1% lows. all to save yourself 100 watts. dont worry nobody tells you about idle.
I do not like 'how your video popped up' on the feed, considering what is the state lately of the industry. You in one review praise - and mention - two manufacturers that had very large scandals happening: one is EK which probably will end-up in courts, and second is Intel 'self-degrading' CPUs - which will definitelly be swept under the rug as Intel is deep relations with at the very least two main states that are at war, so they just may dump all of the responsibility to whoever the f.. they want, like say - a mainboard vendors.
The reason why the CPU’s are ‘degrading’ are because motherboard manufacturers are setting insane defaults and unrestricted power limits with these CPU’s. If you stick to Intel specifications the CPUs will be fine. 125w PL1 & 253W PL2. Nothing wrong with the CPU. Undervolting them them is the best way to extract extra performance
never imagined that Popeye would do a so-called "overclocking" stuff... the actual info is basically zero, he tells actually nothing in his videos... 16 mins of empty talk on how you press enable XMP and have "improved" performance vs "stock"... WTF :))
I think it is b-roll. Like you would have two rolls of film. A roll for the primary shots and B roll for stock footage... and then you would cut from both rolls to the final roll of film.
It's pointless to buy this garbage or even the normal 14900K. If you are gaming just get a 7800X3D and if you are doing productivity too get a 7950X3D. Or if you are still hell bent on getting Intel in 2024 at least wait until autumn when Intel releases the far far more efficient 15th gen.
Sorry, but for video production, hands down intel it's not even close with quick sync on. Amd is just not there for production work. In less you go TR and that's 7k
Hi im building a new video editing PC, Primarily for Premier pro and after effects. Just want to get everyone's thoughts. If everything is compatible and makes sense. Also a couple questions Can the Asus motherboard support the 14th gen with a bios update? Im open to new case ideas but very hard to find 420mm radiator supported cases. CPU Intel Core i9-14900K 3.2 GHz 24-Core Processor
CPU Cooler ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 72.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler Motherboard Asus PRIME Z790-A WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard Memory Silicon Power XPOWER Zenith RGB Gaming 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory
Storage Seagate Barracuda Compute 8 TB 3.5" 5400 RPM Internal Hard Drive Silicon Power US75 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive Silicon Power US75 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive Silicon Power US75 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
Video Card Zotac GAMING Trinity GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card Case Antec Performance 1 FT ATX Full Tower Case Power Supply Gigabyte UD1000GM 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
also very important get a good contact frame, this could make a big difference in cooling, for me it was about 10 degrees
Great quality video -8PACK is the man, great to see this kind of video from you guys.
My 14900KS, bought from Overclockers of course ❤, has a global SP of 103, with P Core SP of 117, E Core SP of 76 (which is what is reducing the global value) and MC SP of 86. That makes the P Cores and MC much better than my 13900K. Custom loop and going DD with Velocity2 conversion kit.
Glad someone is enjoying the 14th gen KS 🤔.
Sweet! I have Global SP 102, P cores 115, E core 77 and MC 75 and runing 48GB Teamgroup 8200 stable. Had to lower SA voltage to 1 1.181v as I think that Asus Apex Encore has the System Agent voltage bug.. hard lock at certain voltage and mhz wall.
I also am using the EK Velocity2 block and have the DD kit upgrade for it still in the box.. debating if this cpu is worthy or not.. haha. Part of me wants to exchange it.. another part says go foe the win with the under dog!
@@VaporEclypsewhich bug it have? I own apex encore 14900ks sp 108 p122 e81 mc sp 92
8400mhz g skill ram xmp tweaked passed 6:10hours memtest86 now I want to tune this. Beast for gaming
This good production quality and less than 1000 views? Wat?
I upgraded from a 12900k to a 14900k for my silent PC
Turned off 50% e cores and I set them to 2.9. P cores at 5.1. It’s about 10% slower than stock, 15% slower than your tuned specs (depressing lol) however it uses less than 100W 99% of the time and occasionally pulls 125W. It has 140W power limit. I also use a 4070 as I can get it to sip less than 140W. The end result being a passive PC that can actually run passive under low/medium loads and less than 600rpm fans under full load when gaming at 4k and streaming to TH-cam. 😊
Great video!
The only way the KS could have made sense this gen would be with BINNED IMC. The vCore voltage is off the charts!
My 14900KS MC SP is 86, so very good.
@@ColinDyckes ez 8400 ycruncher stable?
@@mythbuster4315 I have the original Z790 Hero so I don't think there's any chance of 8400, especially as my kit is 7200 🙂. On an Apex I would think it very likely with a good 8000MTs kit.
My 14900KS has global SP 102.. P.115 E.77 and MC 75.. I have the Apex Encore and maybe a SA bug. I have to lower the SA voltage to 1.181v so I can run my Teamgroup 48GB 8200.mt ram stable at xmp. Thats as far as I've tried so far.. plenty tested with TM5 and cinbench r23 and gaming! Fast haha
@@VaporEclypse hi mate have u got discord would like to ask a few questions about ur cpu thanks
Cool video, i understand stock vs overclocked. But i would have loved to see somw undervolting to try and fix the thermals first
Why u didn't use the Asus z790 Apex
Thank you Ian for test 🙂
Awesome video TY! Where can i find some of the BIOS settings you changed for gaming profile? Looking for some ideas (appreciate silicone lottery etc) - Much Appreciated
Can you please share your settings for gaming optimisation? I own 14900KS and would like to tune it for gaming
still rolling the dice on some of the quality of these, you might get one that thermal throttles 100c on a water cooled AIO stock speeds or you might get one that chills at 75 deg
Liquid metal bro, if you have a ks you need to delid
@@Urmomsfathoe I just bought one and picked it up at Micro Center today, totally plan on De-Lidding it and going Direct Die with a Custom Hardline Loop, but the guy at Micro Center basically said the same thing, its a lottery and I could end up with a chip that throttles right out of the gate, or have one that could chill at 70-80degrees. keeping my fingers crossed though. Im trying to blow the transformer outside of my house lol.
Looking on the forums but where are these recommended settings so we can try the profiles?
How do I optimise my 14900k for gaming?
Not on this video
@@SamaraRing on which one it’s presented?
you need to put the ilm bracket on that thing will help temps by like 10c
Was this posted on April 1st?
Ht off and e-core off and OC on the P-core ist the best vor Gaming ?
420 Aio will not be sufficient for factory settings???
JayzTwoCents on steroids
Yup!! Way better channel right here! ✌️🇺🇲
Have you tried it with your z790 Apex
They don’t know how to tune ddr5 😂
Hello overclockers, im 8pack and i have crippling depression :D:DDD
Just RMA'd my second 14900ks. Not going to run it with a load of LLC even at stock. 14900k is where I get off the Raptor train. I have owned 12900k & ks, 13900k and ks and 14900k and they all work fine, the ks is not good for me at least.
I have new settings which I am using for my i9-13900k and i9-14900k. I don’t like the uncertainty of undervolting so prefer working with power and clock limits. With these settings I got a couple of FPS BETTER on CP2077 and Forza Horizon Benchmark, went from 99th to 98th percentile on PC Mark Extended, passed the Time Spy Stress Test, Time Spy was within a whisker of the average for my hardware, Cinebench R23 finished between 37-38000, CPU-Z, Intel Diag tool and Prime95 was stable and < 90 degrees.
MCE off, PL1 and PL2 limit to 225, limit P-core boost to 5.3 GHz and E-core boost to 4.0GHz, and use balanced power profile in Windows (although I do disable core parking to keep system highly responsive). Oh and just XMP on the RAM. I didn’t change LLC or voltage offset values.
With these settings, you should have no stability issues, be able to run on an air cooler like the NH-D15 (what I use on my 3 i9 13th/14th gen systems) and will barely notice any performance changes in gaming or productivity.
@a120068020 5.3/4.0.. sheesh, what an enormous nerf to the CPU. And what undervolting uncertainty lol?
@@ashryver3605 it makes very little difference to performance. And this is my ultra safe settings, I could go higher of course.
Update: I have now set voltage offset at a modest -0.010v. I have disabled the C6&C7 C states and EIST. I have then increated max P core clock to 5.5GHz and E cores to 4.3GHz. Lastly I have locked AVX at 0 offset. I have tested on P95/CB R23 and CB R15. All great and in a mid 20 degree room, no workload exceeds 80c on package or cores. Happy Bunny!
@@a120068020 You don't need to disable C-States at all. If you're after power saving and cool operation especially at or near idle, you want these on. Especially since it'll cut how much voltage is going there when necessary and prolong lifespan further.
Also to a certain point Ring Ratio is free, it's all tied and shared in regards to vCore, so if it runs it runs with no required vCore or stability issue, if a certain ratio's native VID (you cannot control this directly) demands more, you'll see a spike in load voltage. Then you can set a cache offset to make that request back to where it was, and it may or may not be stable at that point, too.
This video treats the Asus default profile as if it implemented the Intel stock settings, but it doesn't.
Wouldn't like to be footing the leccy bill to run this thing. 405W CPU + GPU ~400W = ~£500 a month, which is alright if you're drawing 65K p.a. LOL
Ah yes because both your gpu and cpu at full load at all time you sit there running cinebench in the background while gaming as well? 😂😂
@@TheBURBAN111 Well slight exaggeration but just any AAA game in high settings will clock up a fair kWh rating
@@bighill8272 you can always use AMD. if it works and you want to program every game and program and you can deal with stutters and miserable 1% lows. all to save yourself 100 watts. dont worry nobody tells you about idle.
Nowhere near £500 maybe £50 max 😂😂😂😂
Overclock a 14900k and you will have a 14900ks 😮💨....
It’s recommended to overclock, well obviously this is ocuk 😂❤
Great job! I always tune them HT off, delid, 8200+ DDR5
I do not like 'how your video popped up' on the feed, considering what is the state lately of the industry. You in one review praise - and mention - two manufacturers that had very large scandals happening: one is EK which probably will end-up in courts, and second is Intel 'self-degrading' CPUs - which will definitelly be swept under the rug as Intel is deep relations with at the very least two main states that are at war, so they just may dump all of the responsibility to whoever the f.. they want, like say - a mainboard vendors.
The reason why the CPU’s are ‘degrading’ are because motherboard manufacturers are setting insane defaults and unrestricted power limits with these CPU’s. If you stick to Intel specifications the CPUs will be fine. 125w PL1 & 253W PL2. Nothing wrong with the CPU. Undervolting them them is the best way to extract extra performance
Still can't beat a 7800x3d at half the price and a third the wattage
But hey, this is just an advert after all
Nope. weired mind of an fandboy with an undfferenciated judgment
42k r23 my ass, bump huge gap from my 13900ks with same score oh no, mediocre bin tho
7800x3D and 7950x3D destroy 12th 13th 14th generations. But whith optimisation all pc ;)
Nope
14900ks + 4090 ti
@@aisuotome1413 just bought it :)
Just bought it :)
never imagined that Popeye would do a so-called "overclocking" stuff...
the actual info is basically zero, he tells actually nothing in his videos...
16 mins of empty talk on how you press enable XMP and have "improved" performance vs "stock"... WTF :))
Another stonking video by the grand master stonk.... Could be less B role though and more of the man himself...
I think it is b-roll. Like you would have two rolls of film. A roll for the primary shots and B roll for stock footage... and then you would cut from both rolls to the final roll of film.
u better stop hormon inject and show us some real settings not only your ears
It's pointless to buy this garbage or even the normal 14900K. If you are gaming just get a 7800X3D and if you are doing productivity too get a 7950X3D. Or if you are still hell bent on getting Intel in 2024 at least wait until autumn when Intel releases the far far more efficient 15th gen.
Nobody wants the AMDip 😂 bad advice
Sorry, but for video production, hands down intel it's not even close with quick sync on. Amd is just not there for production work. In less you go TR and that's 7k
@@toonnut1 Some people still live in the stone age :D
@@RobH2022 I mean you can still go with a last gen TR 5955WX which is still miles ahead (about twice as fast) of a 14900K/KS for not that much more
Do you recommend using a contact frame for the 14900 ks?
Hi im building a new video editing PC, Primarily for Premier pro and after effects.
Just want to get everyone's thoughts. If everything is compatible and makes sense.
Also a couple questions
Can the Asus motherboard support the 14th gen with a bios update?
Im open to new case ideas but very hard to find 420mm radiator supported cases.
CPU
Intel Core i9-14900K 3.2 GHz 24-Core Processor
CPU Cooler
ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 72.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
Motherboard
Asus PRIME Z790-A WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard
Memory
Silicon Power XPOWER Zenith RGB Gaming 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory
Storage
Seagate Barracuda Compute 8 TB 3.5" 5400 RPM Internal Hard Drive
Silicon Power US75 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
Silicon Power US75 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
Silicon Power US75 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
Video Card
Zotac GAMING Trinity GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card
Case
Antec Performance 1 FT ATX Full Tower Case
Power Supply
Gigabyte UD1000GM 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply