I really appreciate you showing all six ends of your testing at a variety of angles. It gives me a chance to observe good form and think about my own form while watching. You are the king of informative archery videos.
Beautiful video Jake. I love your recurve videos. It amazes me to see how good and high level your results are even though you have not been training. I’m sure these are Olympic’s worthy scores!
You really have the best Archery channel on the internet, mmy game changed significantly since i started following your channel, and you touched on every single road block i had, keep going man
Hey good stuff as always, good score and good findings/commentary along the way. Definitely want to see that 27" Exceed with the extra long velos limbs combo for sure... full on barebow config with the weights, whole 9 yards!
Jake, your shot technique is so nice. A pleasure to watch! I'm also looking forward to watching the Olympics. Mete Gazoz, Brady, the Dutch and the Koreans... It's gonna be mega!
In addition to the barebow setup, would definitely love to see how the extra longs feel on a 25" riser, especially at 70m. Considering the 27" + mediums combo you used to use, it would be interesting to hear what kind of comfort/speed/efficiency trade offs you feel, and then how adjusting the limb rockers tweaks that. Also, heard that the extra long velos seem to have some quality control issues. Would be interested to see if you notice any of that.
Interviewer: Do you shoot at 70 meters? Me: Yes, I do. Interviewer: Do you hit the target at 70 meters? Me: Yes, I do. Interviewer: Do you put them into the gold? Me: Lovely weather we're having...
Even though I shoot barebow, I still get useful tips & insights from all the bows you shoot...i.e. finger tip & bow neck pressure can stiffen the shot or impact the vertical line.🤔 Wrote that one in my book.😚 AND reminder to self, get some resin.🙄
I would love to see a barebow comparison between a 27+long and a 25+Extra long limbs, specifically as it relates to forgiveness and finger pressure when stringwalking. I think it would be useful in the context of some of the ongoing barebow equipment debates. I’d also love to hear your impressions as to how the Xceed compares to the Gillo GT when setup as a barebow riser. I know the GT had some issues for you with setup, but I’d be curious as to how they feel when shot. These, and the CD WF risers, are kind of the go-to for high level shooting.
I was looking at a page called chn archery that has a copy of the xceed and others from hoyt, they are similar except for the price that is much cheaper. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COULD MAKE A REVIEW OR A VIDEO OF ALTERNATIVES TO THE MORE "ADVANCED" BOWS
Hi Jake. Great video as always. Can you explain the difference between the Hoyt Velos and Integra limbs? I've been curious what that 2.3x in extra cost buys you. Thanks!
Hi Jake couple questions. 1. If i shoot a 42lb barebow whats the equivalent weight in Oly recurve considering the lower anchor. I assume you can hold more weight. 2. What’s the best arrow for a guy wanting to try 70m without spending millions on x10?
1. Same weight, very little difference other than you're gonna work on 1 top limb more than the bottom so a positive tiller is needed 2. Skylon arrows, Victorys. I can think off
In some shots you can see your bow shoulder to creep a little bit upwards. It may be the transfer effect, as those arrows landed in the 10, mostly. Just an observation. It is very clear on the video shot from the back and you have the wall lines to compare. Nice video, nice score
Recurves are such beautiful bows and the bow I started with. This is probably the main reason I chose the Supra Focus XL. Still miss my old recurve. 🏹🤠👍
Great video Jake. How does the Exceed riser compare with the Meta DX and Wiawis ATF-X as a top competition riser. And which of the three would you choose?
@@Waltham1892 they’re string walkers they want as much space as possible. Doesn’t matter if the bow tiller all eff-ed up or the bow sounds like .45 Acp Going off
@@Waltham1892 I know and somehow they see themselves as world class athletes, the only difference they have from Olympic shooters is the arrow tip instead of a plastic pin for sight. And somehow all of them start giving seminars with the seriousness and intensity of NFL coach.
Would be interested to see your comparison /opinion of the range of riser, limb combinations short thru xl, I like long, comfortable ! But there is a definite difference of level and commitment on my part (lack of commitment !! Compound archer who plays at barebow !)
@JakeKaminski Hey Jake, great vid! Would you ever consider using the Velos on a W&W riser? I love my atf-x but would like to look for new limbs soon and hear good things about the Velos, but not sure if it's taboo to put them together lol.
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I’m very curious about the Gillo GT and Hoyt Velos combo. I’m shooting Gillo GT/Uukha now and I have a love/hate relationship towards the limbs on a recurve and thinking about switching to Hoyt Velos instead. I love the smothness with the Uukha limbs, but it’s a bit hard to find that exactly spot before the clicker. The limbs just feels the same and extremely smooth all the way. (Which is absolutely amazing on a traditional recurve though).
Nice vid!!!! A quick one, after you set up, while you load do you also "push" the front arm with the lats to counter the rise of the front shoulder? thanks a lot
I mentioned that I’d love to play with them. Not sure if I’d love them on the bow or not. I didn’t see the Gillo had pocket weights specifically only a barebow weight that bolts to the lower part of the riser only. Hoyt has that too and I’m sure it’s the same thing.
Jake, you've said in Apptitune that a higher strand string will make a shaft act weaker, to me that's counterintuitive as a slower string feels like it should stiffen the arrow. Can you explain how it works?
This is due to the added weight of the strands. In general in my experience a heavier string makes an arrow weaker. It seems to break down the spine faster. Tests will need to be done on my end and I will post my findings as time goes on!
@@JakeKaminskiArchery thank you so much for your quick response. I have moved to a thicker string despite bring advised against it and it does seem to have worked
Very sweet!! I’m brand new to archery; I’ve had a Sage for two weeks. So if I drive to your place in Florida can I get a lesson on that Hoyt?! I’d love to give one a try as I think about what direction I want to take in the sport…. Thank you for posting; very interesting!
I really appreciate you showing all six ends of your testing at a variety of angles. It gives me a chance to observe good form and think about my own form while watching. You are the king of informative archery videos.
Beautiful video Jake. I love your recurve videos. It amazes me to see how good and high level your results are even though you have not been training. I’m sure these are Olympic’s worthy scores!
You really have the best Archery channel on the internet, mmy game changed significantly since i started following your channel, and you touched on every single road block i had, keep going man
Hey good stuff as always, good score and good findings/commentary along the way.
Definitely want to see that 27" Exceed with the extra long velos limbs combo for sure... full on barebow config with the weights, whole 9 yards!
Like the archery emojis you use, where did you find them? 🎯 & 🏹 are my only two.
@@kajala11 They are custom emoji's you get access to here in Jake's video comments if you support the channel through TH-cam Membership.
Jake, your shot technique is so nice. A pleasure to watch! I'm also looking forward to watching the Olympics. Mete Gazoz, Brady, the Dutch and the Koreans... It's gonna be mega!
For after a while that’s a damn decent shooting man
Agreed, it is truly inspiring to watch that level of shooting!
Clearly, Jake hasn't lost a thing since "laying off it for awhile".
Unbelievable Jake your the best!
In addition to the barebow setup, would definitely love to see how the extra longs feel on a 25" riser, especially at 70m. Considering the 27" + mediums combo you used to use, it would be interesting to hear what kind of comfort/speed/efficiency trade offs you feel, and then how adjusting the limb rockers tweaks that.
Also, heard that the extra long velos seem to have some quality control issues. Would be interested to see if you notice any of that.
Really good looking riser and overall set up😮
Man this looks fun. I have a bunch of beginner/intermediate level gear in my shopping cart. After my fall hunting seasons are over, I'm going for it.
Would love to hear your thoughts on the 27" Exceed with the XL limbs set up as an Olympic recurve.
Interviewer: Do you shoot at 70 meters?
Me: Yes, I do.
Interviewer: Do you hit the target at 70 meters?
Me: Yes, I do.
Interviewer: Do you put them into the gold?
Me: Lovely weather we're having...
You hit the target...at least you have that. 😏
Sounds like me 😂
Greetings from the Netherlands 🇳🇱
@@73Remmie Hello Netherlands!
Even though I shoot barebow, I still get useful tips & insights from all the bows you shoot...i.e. finger tip & bow neck pressure can stiffen the shot or impact the vertical line.🤔 Wrote that one in my book.😚
AND reminder to self, get some resin.🙄
Hey Jake, great video as always much appreciated. Yes please do one with the 27" Exceed riser and Velos long limbs for comparison. Thanks!
I found it interesting and helpful for my shooting. Thank you
I would love to see a barebow comparison between a 27+long and a 25+Extra long limbs, specifically as it relates to forgiveness and finger pressure when stringwalking. I think it would be useful in the context of some of the ongoing barebow equipment debates.
I’d also love to hear your impressions as to how the Xceed compares to the Gillo GT when setup as a barebow riser. I know the GT had some issues for you with setup, but I’d be curious as to how they feel when shot. These, and the CD WF risers, are kind of the go-to for high level shooting.
Dude you still got it 👍
More great stuff, Jake - Thanks!
I was looking at a page called chn archery that has a copy of the xceed and others from hoyt, they are similar except for the price that is much cheaper. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COULD MAKE A REVIEW OR A VIDEO OF ALTERNATIVES TO THE MORE "ADVANCED" BOWS
Hi Jake. Great video as always. Can you explain the difference between the Hoyt Velos and Integra limbs? I've been curious what that 2.3x in extra cost buys you. Thanks!
Hi Jake couple questions. 1. If i shoot a 42lb barebow whats the equivalent weight in Oly recurve considering the lower anchor. I assume you can hold more weight. 2. What’s the best arrow for a guy wanting to try 70m without spending millions on x10?
1. Same weight, very little difference other than you're gonna work on 1 top limb more than the bottom so a positive tiller is needed
2. Skylon arrows, Victorys. I can think off
In some shots you can see your bow shoulder to creep a little bit upwards. It may be the transfer effect, as those arrows landed in the 10, mostly. Just an observation. It is very clear on the video shot from the back and you have the wall lines to compare.
Nice video, nice score
Recurves are such beautiful bows and the bow I started with. This is probably the main reason I chose the Supra Focus XL. Still miss my old recurve. 🏹🤠👍
Sir I had a question. Does Wiawis Nsg limb fit in Hoyt Xceed riser? I'll be grateful if you kindly answer it.
Maybe you can try them all and see which feels best for barebow and Olympic recurve please. 70", 72" (25+XL, 27+L) and 74" at the same poundage OTF.
Great video Jake. How does the Exceed riser compare with the Meta DX and Wiawis ATF-X as a top competition riser. And which of the three would you choose?
Please try a 72” set up
What would be the difference between a 70" and 72" bow? Except for folks with arms like gorilla's I've never understood people who use a 72" set up.
@@Waltham1892 they’re string walkers they want as much space as possible. Doesn’t matter if the bow tiller all eff-ed up or the bow sounds like .45 Acp Going off
@@LifeisGood-ye8rl Bare bow folks have strange ways...
@@Waltham1892 I know and somehow they see themselves as world class athletes, the only difference they have from Olympic shooters is the arrow tip instead of a plastic pin for sight. And somehow all of them start giving seminars with the seriousness and intensity of NFL coach.
@@LifeisGood-ye8rl I'm sensing someone who's been outshot by a barebow shooter...
Hi Jake, would you do a test with the Hoyt exceed with cheap limbs? to see what the difference would be with the velos?
Which plunger and arrow rest did you use on the Hoyt Xceed Riser?
Jake, why do Hoyt do two bows at that price point, and which is the better bow? From a little English?
Would be interested to see your comparison /opinion of the range of riser, limb combinations short thru xl, I like long, comfortable ! But there is a definite difference of level and commitment on my part (lack of commitment !! Compound archer who plays at barebow !)
@JakeKaminski Hey Jake, great vid! Would you ever consider using the Velos on a W&W riser? I love my atf-x but would like to look for new limbs soon and hear good things about the Velos, but not sure if it's taboo to put them together lol.
I’m very curious about the Gillo GT and Hoyt Velos combo. I’m shooting Gillo GT/Uukha now and I have a love/hate relationship towards the limbs on a recurve and thinking about switching to Hoyt Velos instead. I love the smothness with the Uukha limbs, but it’s a bit hard to find that exactly spot before the clicker. The limbs just feels the same and extremely smooth all the way. (Which is absolutely amazing on a traditional recurve though).
Can you compare xi and xceed?
I would like to see a test about the three different arrow rest/plunger positions.
Jake can you do a video that compare your scores at 70m using AAE gold extender vs a normal extender
Jack hello, what kind of vanes are you shooting?
I know that's right. I'm going to build a bonfire with Kurly vanes as the kindling.
Nice vid!!!! A quick one, after you set up, while you load do you also "push" the front arm with the lats to counter the rise of the front shoulder? thanks a lot
Always. But I don’t focus on the lat, I focus on pushing/reaching forward with the bow hand.
Need to have a way to let Lancaster know all of the stuff we buy from them because of your videos!
I’m trying to get some sort of arrangement worked out with them.
I may just start my own online store!
@@JakeKaminskiArchery I'd like to register an account right now 👉👍!
What would your score be with a barebow ??
Jake, you mentioned you´d love the weights in the riser´s pockets? Is it for better stability? What about Gillo´s riser? same thing or different?
I mentioned that I’d love to play with them. Not sure if I’d love them on the bow or not.
I didn’t see the Gillo had pocket weights specifically only a barebow weight that bolts to the lower part of the riser only.
Hoyt has that too and I’m sure it’s the same thing.
Jake, you've said in Apptitune that a higher strand string will make a shaft act weaker, to me that's counterintuitive as a slower string feels like it should stiffen the arrow. Can you explain how it works?
This is due to the added weight of the strands. In general in my experience a heavier string makes an arrow weaker. It seems to break down the spine faster. Tests will need to be done on my end and I will post my findings as time goes on!
@@JakeKaminskiArchery thank you so much for your quick response. I have moved to a thicker string despite bring advised against it and it does seem to have worked
what set up do you like
A little late to the party but I love your content and your attitude! If you make them, I'll watch them! (And try and replicate at a novice level)
Jake what are you trying to focus on while shooting 70m ? What should be the mindset for the best scores ?
One shot at a time, one movement within each shot at a time.
What kind of weight you holding on your bars?
hey jake could you please do some new riser flex testing want see so bad like wiawis atfx meta dx hoyt xceed
Can you tell us which clicker plate you used since it comes with 3 different ones?
I always use the high plate. I cover why in the review video of this setup posted in the description.
Do you ever shoot a full fita star?
Many yes.
How about showing the xact.
I would love to see a 27" with Xtra Long Limbs!! That makes a 75"?
Very sweet!! I’m brand new to archery; I’ve had a Sage for two weeks. So if I drive to your place in Florida can I get a lesson on that Hoyt?! I’d love to give one a try as I think about what direction I want to take in the sport…. Thank you for posting; very interesting!
whats price
Nice
Fast forward into August, he scoring all gold like it was nothing.
Howmany LBS
how about rock climbing chalk?
It dries your hands out and makes the calluses crack in my experience. Plus the rosin powder is essentially dried sap so it’s mildly sticky.
Xceed w/ W&W MXT would be nicer.
But that's just me, being not-a-big-fan of wood core limbs.
Agree. I prefer foam cores too
So, the xceed isn't the best riser you can get... I see.
The only advantage of this riser is low wibration? That's bad..
😁
how heavy your limbs are (lbs)
Marked 42# roughly 46.5# when the clicker clicks