Can Therapy Make Dissociation Worse?

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  • @aidanbyrne8267
    @aidanbyrne8267 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    00:00 - introduction
    01:07 - Traumatised book announcement
    02:55 - Kati's personal experience with mental illness
    07:30 - fear of crying during a session
    19:47 - what's the most important thing to bring up in therapy?
    26:52 - can therapy make dissociation worse?
    33:46 - what's you opinion on personality tests?
    42:11 - why don't I want life to get back to normal?
    48:10 - how can I overcome fear of abandonment / void of being alone?
    55:12 - dissociating / unable to feel emotions during therapy sessions
    59:44 - difference between RSD and BPD
    01:03:00 - CPTSD from trauma in late teens

  • @Katimorton
    @Katimorton 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Good morning everyone! I hope your day is off to a great start :)

    • @nikkimckay860
      @nikkimckay860 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hello Kati just watching your new podcast as always loads of important questions and you have so much advice and show support to so meny people congratulations on your new book Traumatized

    • @15DAVIDYOUNG
      @15DAVIDYOUNG 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That right eye twitch is still going strong, your not fully over your own trauma, a facial tick is basically an error code.

    • @SuperTed.
      @SuperTed. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@15DAVIDYOUNG not necessarily.

    • @progressivedragon6664
      @progressivedragon6664 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kati, I am a licensed therapist and I depend on your weekly videos as one of MY main coping skills, (as I am still in search of a new therapist for myself…Need someone that knows how to treat Climate Grief in California??) Thank you for all you do!

  • @BirdyMarie
    @BirdyMarie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I never use to cry in therapy but lately I'm a cry baby. It's so nice to get that release of emotions.

  • @Progressivelyyou
    @Progressivelyyou 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Omg the overheating with anxiety is real. This happens to me too. I get anxious and then full blown hot flash. It feels like Im in an oven, suddenly. 🥴

    • @rainbowchaserunicorn6115
      @rainbowchaserunicorn6115 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes I am the same!! I get beat red...my anxiety turns into rage and anger

  • @caribarker1
    @caribarker1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My parents beat me, kicked me etc.. then told me I am ugly when I cry and they can’t look at me. Then in my room I’d try to hide that I was crying in a pillow because they told me they would hit me again if I didn’t stop crying.
    I’m 61 years old and still cannot cry in front of anyone including my trauma psychologist, who I’ve been seeing weekly for 6 years. He is amazing, but I still cannot cry.

    • @mystosplosion
      @mystosplosion ปีที่แล้ว

      When you are able to and your therapist is supportive in response, I bet it will be a huge breakthrough for you. Never say never! ❤️

  • @TheHuber26
    @TheHuber26 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love how relatable the questions are every week. It’s so good to learn from one another. Thanks for sharing your stories everyone. You are not alone!! And Kati, as always, you are the bomb! Thank you for being our voice and making sense of our inner struggles.

  • @TheTrishLuke
    @TheTrishLuke 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Is it weird that I want to email my therapist a few days before our sessions asking what questions she wants to ask me so I can be better prepared? I always freeze up and get awkward when she asks me questions on the spot, because I feel blindsided and never feel like I'm answering things correctly 😬 maybe it's the perfectionist and long-term childhood emotional abuse survivor in me but I feel like I NEED to be prepared to get the most out of therapy, because it can be so difficult at times. Anyone else wish they had a "cheat sheet" ahead of time...every time?

    • @rsgreen30
      @rsgreen30 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Me. I do.

    • @andreafeelsfantastic
      @andreafeelsfantastic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I don’t imagine she is usually thinking of the questions ahead of time. Something you do or say is prompting her to ask you them in the moment. You should probably tell her about how you feel when she asks you questions so she can help you think of a strategy. Or you could maybe say, when she asks you something, I’m not sure but can I think about that and get back to you next time?

    • @progressivedragon6664
      @progressivedragon6664 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ideally there is no such thing as answering question “correctly “in therapy…If your therapist makes you feel that way (judged) it might be time possibly for another therapist,?? Secondly, as a therapist myself, I really like it when my clients email me or text me during the week so I have a good idea of what is really affecting them, in the moment. It can be very helpful and make The session more productive for the client

    • @deadinside8781
      @deadinside8781 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol this is me, I have the perfectionism too, and I wish I could lead therapy sessions but I'm so shy. I want to get the most out of therapy too. I think what others have said here is spot on. It's all impromptu, you're going to see them again, you'll get a chance to be more specific with what you feel or the topic. But you know you the best. If this is something you need, is worth a shot. You won't get what you need if you don't ask.

    • @MG-fr3tn
      @MG-fr3tn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wish I had a counciler who dident have thire own agenda or expectations.

  • @daydrmrofficial1966
    @daydrmrofficial1966 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Once again an amazing video, can't tell how much you are helping us. Thank you for all that you do Kati!

  • @lisasnoozy3749
    @lisasnoozy3749 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Kati happy Thursday! I pre-ordered your book and I can't wait to read it! I'm home from hospital and nursing home and feel so much better! Thanks for sharing your personal experiences with mental illness! Way to be vulnerable! 🥰

  • @lovelana3595
    @lovelana3595 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Katie, You really know your $hit!
    I like how real/genuine you feel.
    👍👍
    Congratulations on the book🙃

  • @andreafeelsfantastic
    @andreafeelsfantastic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In the Enneagram system you technically can’t have 4w6, you have to pick one of the two wings on either side of your main number, even if another number seems closer to your personality. So for Fours, you are either wing 3 or 5. IDK why that is the rule, but that is the rule. But you do you! :)

    • @AmethystWoman
      @AmethystWoman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes. Thanks. And for the same reasons, Katie you can't be 2w6. You would be either a w1 or 3. And your type doesn't change with Enneagram. My therapist uses it quite a bit in her practice and so I have studied it quite a bit also. It's a great way to get to know you self better and it's very normalizing if you see yourself as this "type of person" rather than a bunch of symptoms. The way we are isn't always diagnosable.
      I highly encourage folks to learn how it can be used rather just an online test when they are usually wrong - unless it's just a fun thing to do.
      Also look at what your subtype is. Social, intimate or self-preservation. Just as your astrology sign doesn't change, if we answering these "tests" honesty (best to do a paid one from a reputable site.) and not how we feel "today," who you are as a person doesn't change. MI doesn't change our scores. We are still who we are. There are levels of "wellness" within each type. I'm disappointed by your discussion of this. Sorry to sound gruff, but people take your word as truth. I hope you take the time to learn more about enneagram. It is a great way to learn about yourself and how to communicate with others. If your number changes every time you take an online test, you may be answering with how you feel today or many times, who you hope you are rather than who you actually are. Have some of me who knows you really well perhaps read about the types and give their thoughts as how they experience you. And online tests are very very unreliable. The wing is always a number next to yours. If you are a two, you are either a wing 1 or 3. In a wide sweeping generality, 1 is particular, neatnick or OCD in an extreme. A quick thought of a 3 is a "workaholic" in an extreme but also a good leader. You seem driven so perhaps more a 3 wing and I'm going to guess intimate/sexual. (And that's not about being sexual or even "sexy." It's more about having flair and desire to be in a relationship etc.) And we can have the qualities of both side numbers, one stronger than the other. It's a great system but please learn more about it.
      And I know you always investigate when you don't understand something so perhaps you can do that more with Enneagram. Or do an interview with someone who really knows it well. There are many therapists who use enneagram in their practice who would probably love to talk to you in an interview and teach for an hour. It's also an energy thing. The energy of a type. It seems easy from the outside, but It's actually quite complex. Thanks. ❤️ 😀

    • @lizbergh
      @lizbergh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      First thing I noticed!!

  • @christym.6529
    @christym.6529 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks Kati! Always helpful & informative! 😊

    • @Katimorton
      @Katimorton 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're welcome Christy!

  • @jfluter
    @jfluter 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kati, thanks so much for sharing about some of your mental health struggles. I actually wish more therapists would do so. In terms of crying in sessions....I'm definitely a crier, and last year, when I was still new to the world of therapy and mental health (was diagnosed with PTSD last fall as I had major trauma happen last March), I remember thinking "Omg....I didn't cry in session for a change today!" I have never dissociated in session, but things would often feel so raw and exposed that I couldn't help but cry, and it was almost weird (although sorta comforting) that I didn't cry in session. Now, it's a bit different....sometimes, I will still cry, but it's generally not as intense....like maybe I would cry for a minute or two, then I can regroup quickly.

  • @rochelle_johnston2703
    @rochelle_johnston2703 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    G'day Gorgeous,
    Thank-you for adjusting the brightness of your background. Especially taking the time to read and comment on my comment in the first place!
    Didn't mention it last time but I find you and hubby very funny.
    Thanks again, Rocky. :)
    Happy Anniversary Kati & Sean.

  • @kerrim3667
    @kerrim3667 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the last time i cried in therapy was group therapy when my mom went into a nursing home last year. I cried in a peer group last week because i am scared im going to become septic again... that was the scariest thing ive ever been through and it started in april and after a scary and painful surgery last month i am still being treated

  • @treatmenice1564
    @treatmenice1564 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You deserve a break and a great anniversary!

  • @thestatusquoy
    @thestatusquoy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Happy Anniversary! Have a wonderful break!

  • @noradiehl5395
    @noradiehl5395 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow same, I'm 17, diagnosed with Major Depression and took Zoloft last year, but it also made me even more numb (emotionally), so I stopped taking it.
    Next week I am going to see my psychiatrist again, and probably try out my 4th antidepressant, in hopes that I finally find one that works for me.
    Of course I rely mostly on therapy, but nevertheless I feel like I need medication to get better, cuz even after 8 months in the hospital my depression is still almost as bad as before (even though the clinic has really helped me).
    And I am not quite sure why I put all this out there, maybe this is crazy. Probably.
    If you have a similar story just know that you are not alone.

  • @katiunddu
    @katiunddu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I will pre-order your book soon because I am really interested to know more about trauma.

  • @Jay-pl3wk
    @Jay-pl3wk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey. Just a request. Please add timestamps in the description for each question. ☺️

    • @Jay-pl3wk
      @Jay-pl3wk 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Got it thanks

    • @Jay-pl3wk
      @Jay-pl3wk 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Amber p it was ☺️

  • @paulastella8268
    @paulastella8268 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hate crying in front of the therapist I now have. Only once have I when I lost my beautiful Horse ( King). I am not going to cry again,because it increases anxiety,and then I vomit. I have vomited twice on the same day which is Tuesday ( therapy day)

  • @lorena-2508
    @lorena-2508 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi! Anyone else who struggles with question 8 as well, and completely dissociates from feelings during session? Grounding doesn't work for me. My feelings immediately and totally shut off and after over a year of therapy I am scared that I might never feel my emotions when I need to, and thus might never get better. I love my therapist. She is not the problem, I am. And I can't seem to solve this.

    • @lorena-2508
      @lorena-2508 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Amber p I'm glad I'm not the only one. I don't really see a solution to this tbh and I hate it. Doing therapy without emotional presence seems pointless but at the same time I still need it. Maybe this defense mechanism of ours is too well trained? I've had to switch off my emotions at a very young age, especially in the presence of other people. So maybe this is not even a defense mechanism anymore but just a part of who I am? I do wish still wish I could feel during session though :(

    • @lizbergh
      @lizbergh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey! I relate! I just wrote a comment, but thought I'd also reply here. Grounding doesn't work because it's like I'm TOO grounded in session, and I can't draw up those past emotions.

    • @lizbergh
      @lizbergh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Amber p Like I’m so present in the room, that I’m not able to access the emotions I felt when I wasn’t in the room. I can say the words like I’m reciting something, but I’m not actually feeling the emotions

    • @lizbergh
      @lizbergh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Amber p exactly!! that's my experience as well

    • @charlie5115
      @charlie5115 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh I struggle with this too. It’s been a while since I was in therapy, and I’m on the waitlist for a psychologist, but I remember going to one about 5 years ago when I struggled with social anxiety/avoidance and major depression. In hindsight I think I dissociated a lot during my sessions, but my older, male therapist never really helped me with it or pointed it out to me? I remember us sitting in absolute silence for 20 minutes bc I struggled to stay present and say anything. He just sat across me, looking at me and waited for me to speak, which made me feel even worse. I felt extremely uncomfortable and frozen. He didn’t help me pull out of it, and we didn’t really talk about it, isn’t that the wrong way to go about it? I quit a few sessions after that and haven’t been in therapy since.

  • @elizabethbed649
    @elizabethbed649 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Happy anniversary Kati and Sean! xoxo

  • @poohbear0320
    @poohbear0320 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can I get a signed copy if I already preorder the book from amazon?

  • @Touay.
    @Touay. 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just had a therapy session dissociated good and hard ..... well spotted by the therapist.

  • @janarashwan2604
    @janarashwan2604 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you make a video or talk about how to talk with a therapist or anyone who can help with whatever mental issue we have when you have social anxiety and it's even hard to open up to a therapist and talk normally? It's really a very big issue I have and I need help.

  • @bill88694
    @bill88694 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Kati for explaining RSD and the difference it is to abandonment issues; I thought they were similar terms.

  • @rainbowchaserunicorn6115
    @rainbowchaserunicorn6115 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Does anyone else's therapist give out their personal cell phone number ? She tells me that I can call or text anytime when there is a crisis. I feel so awkward to bother her because I don't want to dig into her alone time personal time away from working.

    • @Notmyr3alname
      @Notmyr3alname 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mine has made theirs available for emergencies or if I need to reschedule an appt. I don’t use it unless absolutely necessary and it hasn’t been often.

    • @deadinside8781
      @deadinside8781 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mine didn't but I did call the clinic to get to her when I really needed it once. It was somewhat of an emergency. I didn't feel the need to call since. Do it if you need it.

  • @HellaBella
    @HellaBella 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing content that can really change lives. I can't wait to read your book. No shade to Oprah, but I read her new book on trauma and I just kept sitting there thinking that I wished Katie's book was out so I could read that instead! I didn't connect with that book at all. Your videos have helped me recognize so many things. Thank you!

  • @josephswafford7578
    @josephswafford7578 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm leaving..but..I don't know..where I'm going..take care..Mrs. Kati..

  • @nikiichan
    @nikiichan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    hahaah I like to think that I have an intrinsic locus of control but you made me realize that yes I have to put in the work even though I think I am working on it I havent been doing it as actively. I have been doing the DBT workbook by Mckay but the mindfullness part seems like SO MUCH WORK because it is really easy to zone out with doing the timed inner and outer focus. Its either zoning out or getting pulled to the trauma from the past. I am going to have to put more work into it. The distress tolerance with the use of senses was REALLY good so now I just have to put in the work >_

  • @lizbergh
    @lizbergh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Kati, I relate a lot to the person who asked question 8, where I am unable to feel the emotions in session. However, I feel that the advice you gave doesn't work on me... the problem isn't that I'm dissociated, it's that I am TOO present in the room and unable to draw up past emotions, even things over the past week. It's like now that I'm in a new setting, those emotions are just bottled up somewhere, even if I felt them just minutes before my session. Anybody relate?

  • @mystosplosion
    @mystosplosion ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anyone find crying embarrassing? Not only due to the loss of control but how they physically look doing it?

  • @coreyjacq
    @coreyjacq 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    pre ordered your book! So excited

  • @josephswafford7578
    @josephswafford7578 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kati..hope you are feeling well..💮

  • @tarenleighton9392
    @tarenleighton9392 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is there a difference between fearing abandonment and expecting it?

    • @LisaEti
      @LisaEti 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe you have been disappointed too often.
      I think there is a difference. My interpretation.
      - fear: a "bad" feeling
      - expectation: you know it will happen

    • @machinegurlll
      @machinegurlll 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is how I feel too

  • @christym.6529
    @christym.6529 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have a super fun anniversary vacation!!

  • @lizf5691
    @lizf5691 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hello
    Do you have any emotional intelligence book recommendations that we can use to improve our own emotional intelligence?

    • @nikiichan
      @nikiichan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ohhh I agree! I would like recommendations for that too!

  • @lmoore149
    @lmoore149 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Omg that's why I don't take it now and it makes me so sleepy 😴 all the time I can't get anything done and I tend to say things without thinking not good for me or the people around me. I thought it was just me.

  • @nikkimckay860
    @nikkimckay860 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just watching now missed it earlier so meny good and important question and answers

  • @ezratijssen
    @ezratijssen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Traumatized is so pretty!! Can't wait for it to come out ❤

  • @THEGIRLKISSERPROJECT
    @THEGIRLKISSERPROJECT 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant, thanks Kati💕💕

  • @daliakassab104
    @daliakassab104 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's been almost 2 months since i had lost my little cousin, and we are struggling to put words to check on his mom (my aunt and her family) we visit them almost daily but when we want to ask how they are doing it's hard to ask this question, how we can check on them and know what they are truly feel?
    2. My aunt always vent about him and mention my little cousin 🥺 and we don't know how to reply( for example she remembers smthg he used to play or love) can u please tell me how to reply or change topics?

  • @josephswafford7578
    @josephswafford7578 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'll watch later..I promise..

  • @chronotriggered3180
    @chronotriggered3180 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Episode 69… nice!

  • @mercedesholmes9703
    @mercedesholmes9703 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do a speaking tourrrrr!

  • @Sarah-xm2hd
    @Sarah-xm2hd 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know you probably won't see this but what is your opinion about personality tests when you have a personality disorder. sometimes I feel I have no idea who I am but then I take a test and identify with the results. is that just my bpd taking on new personality traits or do I actually have a personality??

  • @chantellekaro4344
    @chantellekaro4344 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just got your other book on Amazon prime day #Australia

  • @BirdyMarie
    @BirdyMarie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I want to dump my friends and just have my family and dog in my life.

    • @amyevans5273
      @amyevans5273 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wouldn’t recommend this…I’m speaking from personal experience. At least find new friends before you dump the last ones. 💛

    • @progressivedragon6664
      @progressivedragon6664 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@amyevans5273 Bad response… britni might have a good reason to dump her friends… They may be toxic, she may get sufficient support from her family. Better to be alone than with people that make you feel alone

  • @MG-fr3tn
    @MG-fr3tn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should tell your clients not tramatize thire children.

  • @jamesmanning5159
    @jamesmanning5159 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice

  • @amyevans5273
    @amyevans5273 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Scorpios unite

  • @Happy_Bnzo_Puppy
    @Happy_Bnzo_Puppy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Omg... I just learned we are the same age. Wow, I feel so retarded. 🙈😣

  • @cfjohnson7369
    @cfjohnson7369 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Texas allergies?

  • @clairedonison6203
    @clairedonison6203 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    :)